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When the government fails to address issues that are salient to the masses, the masses will revolt.
I had to learn that a million years ago for a political science class.
In this case in Haiti, government does not exist. But the gangs have taken the place of government.
So when the next election in the USA is stolen, don't give up hope.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/30/haiti-port-au-prince-violence-gangs-police
There are also plenty of examples of empires that just disappear. Thats whats happening to England. They're are literally being replaced. Thats pretty much whats happening here with people flooding in from all over the world. For every person that comes here eventually their families come too.
When the government fails to address issues that are salient to the masses, the masses will revolt.
I had to learn that a million years ago for a political science class.
In this case in Haiti, government does not exist. But the gangs have taken the place of government.
So when the next election in the USA is stolen, don't give up hope.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/30/haiti-port-au-prince-violence-gangs-police
Hell gangs run major parts of US cities right now. Not sure if I want that to be the model for the country.
teufelhund1918
05-01-23, 07:12
I don't know what to think. I would have thought by now that folks would have fought back against all this woke agenda crap... I see it out here and people are just turning a blind eye to it. I think that on one hand, nobody is wllling to stand up for what is right as long as they have their "stuff". The Bible talks about the downfall of civilizations due to a decadant people not willing to stand up for fear of losing their property. Also mentions the steps for the down fall of a nation... Kick God out of everything, the moral decline of the society and finally political anarchy. Obviously, we're there at the end. One of the radio talkshow hosts I listen to was comparing Rome to modern day America. We are right there and equal to what was going on with them when Rome collapsed. I personally don't see a turn around for this country going back to it's founding principles. I do see a full on retard implementation of radical socialism coming to us soon.
Averageman
05-01-23, 08:36
I don't know what to think. I would have thought by now that folks would have fought back against all this woke agenda crap... I see it out here and people are just turning a blind eye to it. I think that on one hand, nobody is wllling to stand up for what is right as long as they have their "stuff". The Bible talks about the downfall of civilizations due to a decadant people not willing to stand up for fear of losing their property. Also mentions the steps for the down fall of a nation... Kick God out of everything, the moral decline of the society and finally political anarchy. Obviously, we're there at the end. One of the radio talkshow hosts I listen to was comparing Rome to modern day America. We are right there and equal to what was going on with them when Rome collapsed. I personally don't see a turn around for this country going back to it's founding principles. I do see a full on retard implementation of radical socialism coming to us soon.
I think we will split before we go Socialist as a Nation. There are some here in this State who want us to seceed now. I'm just saying if someone had the nuts to stand up and say what you have just said and follow it up with "We Must Seceed Now" follow it up with a lesson on founding principles, no few States would come along.
I'm not asking for War, what I'm asking for is a clean brake with a failed Union.
We cannot continue to go on like we are now. If half the Country decides to ruin their Country with Socialism, give them half and let them have at it.
But I'm way too far invested in my Country to watch more of the shenanigens coming out of DC.
I think we will split before we go Socialist as a Nation. There are some here in this State who want us to seceed now. I'm just saying if someone had the nuts to stand up and say what you have just said and follow it up with "We Must Seceed Now" follow it up with a lesson on founding principles, no few States would come along.
I'm not asking for War, what I'm asking for is a clean brake with a failed Union.
We cannot continue to go on like we are now. If half the Country decides to ruin their Country with Socialism, give them half and let them have at it.
But I'm way too far invested in my Country to watch more of the shenanigens coming out of DC.
We are already socialist. Have you looked at the mess we've created with healthcare? For that matter, any of the other administrative agencies who's sole purpose is to constrain liberty like the ATF or EPA or yada yada yada.........
Its grown too far out of control and is an unstoppable force at this point in time.
Hell, we have it worse now than with King George. Look at the taxes we pay and what those taxes are used for..........Funding "research" at Universities who have literally Billions stashed away in endowment funds and this isn't the most egregious example of the waste of our tax dollars.
How much of our treasure has been fettered away to Ukraine and why?
teufelhund1918
05-01-23, 10:39
We are already socialist. Have you looked at the mess we've created with healthcare? For that matter, any of the other administrative agencies who's sole purpose is to constrain liberty like the ATF or EPA or yada yada yada.........
Its grown too far out of control and is an unstoppable force at this point in time.
Hell, we have it worse now than with King George. Look at the taxes we pay and what those taxes are used for..........Funding "research" at Universities who have literally Billions stashed away in endowment funds and this isn't the most egregious example of the waste of our tax dollars.
How much of our treasure has been fettered away to Ukraine and why?
On one level or another, I believe all 1o planks/pillars of communism have been met in this country without the majority of folks even knowing or realizing it. There has been/is a govenment agency actively implementing this along with a government agency actively taking away your Constitutional Rights for years. It's the whole frog in boiling water theory...
Karl Marx's "10 Planks" to seize power and destroy freedom:
1. Abolition of Property in Land and Application of all Rents of Land to Public Purpose.
2. A Heavy Progressive or Graduated Income Tax.
3. Abolition of All Rights of Inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the Property of All Emigrants and Rebels.
5. Centralization of Credit in the Hands of the State, by Means of a National Bank with State Capital and an Exclusive Monopoly.
6. Centralization of the Means of Communication and Transport in the Hands of the State.
7. Extension of Factories and Instruments of Production Owned by the State, the Bringing Into Cultivation of Waste Lands, and the Improvement of the Soil Generally in Accordance with a Common Plan.
8. Equal Liability of All to Labor. Establishment of Industrial Armies, Especially for Agriculture.
9. Combination of Agriculture with Manufacturing Industries; Gradual Abolition of the Distinction Between Town and Country by a More Equable Distribution of the Population over the Country.
10. Free Education for All Children in Public Schools. Abolition of Children's Factory Labor in it's Present Form. Combination of Education with Industrial Production.
On one level or another, I believe all 1o planks/pillars of communism have been met in this country without the majority of folks even knowing or realizing it. There has been/is a govenment agency actively implementing this along with a government agency actively taking away your Constitutional Rights for years. It's the whole frog in boiling water theory...
Karl Marx's "10 Planks" to seize power and destroy freedom:
1. Abolition of Property in Land and Application of all Rents of Land to Public Purpose. We're not even close to this. While the government controls vast amounts of land out west, the majority of land in this country is in private hands. The federal government has not caused me a single issue on my large parcels of land, neither has my state, and local gov't just collects the property tax. I know that isn't the case all over the country, but it's still prevalent in much of it.
2. A Heavy Progressive or Graduated Income Tax. The current income tax is really no worse than it has been in my lifetime. It certainly isn't worse than post WWII through the 60's on my tax bracket.
3. Abolition of All Rights of Inheritance. At no time in post WWII has it been better to inherit wealth. Currently you can inherit 12.9 million without paying the feds on it. When I purchased my business in 1999, that limit was $650,000.
4. Confiscation of the Property of All Emigrants and Rebels. I haven't heard of any property confiscated by the US Govt if someone moves out of country. Yes, asset forfeiture is an issue, but not rampant among the general populace.
5. Centralization of Credit in the Hands of the State, by Means of a National Bank with State Capital and an Exclusive Monopoly.We could write a book about this, but suffice it to say that I can still buy large items with cash, gold is still allowed, and I am still building wealth through a variety of means.
6. Centralization of the Means of Communication and Transport in the Hands of the State.The MSM is shitty, but this site allows communication; as does a pile of other internet based communication. Encrypted cell and satellite, phones exist for purchase, as well as a host of hand held radios of various types. At no point in time has a society had better communication available to them.
7. Extension of Factories and Instruments of Production Owned by the State, the Bringing Into Cultivation of Waste Lands, and the Improvement of the Soil Generally in Accordance with a Common Plan. While gov't interference in manufacturing and farming exist, there are still an amazing amount of entrepreneurs that are constantly creating new products and efficiencies via private funding. Hell, while the gov't controls the licensing side of -firearms production, they have barely made a dent in the proliferation of firearms in this country.
8. Equal Liability of All to Labor. Establishment of Industrial Armies, Especially for Agriculture. We're not even close on this. You are still free to move about from job to job. If you want to work in this country you can basically do what you want. Nobody is forming an industrial or agricultural army.
9. Combination of Agriculture with Manufacturing Industries; Gradual Abolition of the Distinction Between Town and Country by a More Equable Distribution of the Population over the Country.That isn't happening. Agriculture has modernized since Marx wrote this and the inefficiencies of collective farming are well known now. If anything the divide between rural and urban is increasing.
10. Free Education for All Children in Public Schools. Abolition of Children's Factory Labor in it's Present Form. Combination of Education with Industrial Production. We've always had public schools through 12th grade for pretty much everyone still alive in the U.S. right now. Child labor laws increased too far and a correction right now is in the works for capitalist reasons, not communist reasons. Still, we provide protection on the exploitation on children in the work force.
If all you go looking for is the shit in the world, that's all you are going to see. Despite the best efforts of the left, there is still an amazing amount of positivity and good in this country.
teufelhund1918
05-02-23, 06:40
If all you go looking for is the shit in the world, that's all you are going to see. Despite the best efforts of the left, there is still an amazing amount of positivity and good in this country.
Oh, I do see good in the world.... but unfortunately today, I see a big turd swirling down the poop hole that is going to be bad because of things like the Great Reset, UN Agenda 21, IRS expansion, Cashless society stuff, WEF and IMF agendas, etc. that "they" have been implementing for years with people just sitting around not saying a thing while your government is actively working to destroy the founding principles of this country.... but it's all good. :cool::cool::cool:
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