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Armadillo
05-26-23, 20:08
What does the forum think of this upper?

I like how short it is.

I bet the blast is horrific.

https://noveske.com/products/7-94-gen-4-diplomat-upper/
Pappabear
05-26-23, 20:27
Noveske generally makes quality gear. And if 300B.O. is your thing it should a good upper.

PB
Todd.K
05-26-23, 20:38
I bet the blast is horrific.


A short 300 has noticeably less muzzle blast than a 223 does.
Armadillo
05-26-23, 20:40
A short 300 has noticeably less muzzle blast than a 223 does.

Needed a reminder...

5.56 NATO vs .300 Blackout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTNUss0rDvQ
Sidneyious
05-27-23, 01:41
https://youtu.be/m_MB2MNPL0A

Dude would be rolling in his grave if he knew what his company was doing under his name.
Disciple
05-27-23, 13:07
Dude would be rolling in his grave if he knew what his company was doing under his name.

What exactly are you referring to?
TMS951
05-27-23, 21:02
https://youtu.be/m_MB2MNPL0A

Dude would be rolling in his grave if he knew what his company was doing under his name.

So I watched that whole video, thank you for it. I hadn’t seen it and found it very informative.

But I honestly see the OP post an upper it seemed John would have liked. He said he liked short slick guns. That upper has a totally reasonable barrel length for suppressed subsonic use.
Armadillo
05-27-23, 22:08
So I watched that whole video, thank you for it. I hadn’t seen it and found it very informative.

But I honestly see the OP post an upper it seemed John would have liked. He said he liked short slick guns. That upper has a totally reasonable barrel length for suppressed subsonic use.

What should I expect if I don't use a suppressor on this upper?
TMS951
05-28-23, 07:43
What should I expect if I don't use a suppressor on this upper?

I think it is too short for a good powder burn on supers. So for that it’s not great.

You could shoot this un suppressed with subs. The subs would likely reach full velocity. With out a suppressor of would still be loud. However blast would basically not exist. It would be as loud as a 45 pistol about and as blasty.

If you are not going to use a suppressor the same upper with with a 11-12” barrel would be better.

If you like short this upper is good for it. At least it’s not 223. That would be dumb. With 300 it’s still a decent option comparatively.
Bluto
05-28-23, 13:30
Not sure about this one but I have a 5.56 7.5” PWS upper and even with a silencerco saker it’s still stupid loud. Along with the not-so-great ballistics it’s strictly a range toy.

I also have a 300bo 9” PWS and with a leftover aac tirant 45k shooting sure it’s much better. Also a range toy but certainly less obnoxious and more usable.
Eurodriver
05-30-23, 07:28
People still shoot 300BLK? I thought it was a necro post at first.
Dutch110
05-30-23, 09:51
People still shoot 300BLK? I thought it was a necro post at first.

Approval nods in 7.62 x 39
Disciple
05-30-23, 11:32
People still shoot 300BLK? I thought it was a necro post at first.

I don't know what this is counting but it's in AmmoSeek's top ten.

Rank Caliber Percent
1 9mm Luger (9x19 Parabellum) 19.16%
2 5.56x45mm NATO 9.92%
3 12 Gauge 7.62%
4 .22LR 5.88%
5 .308/7.62x51mm (.308 Winchester) 5.38%
6 .223 Remington 5.19%
7 7.62x39mm 4.60%
8 .300 AAC Blackout (7.62x35mm) 2.61%
9 .45 ACP/Auto 2.40%
10 6.5mm Creedmoor 1.78%
Dutch110
05-30-23, 12:53
I don't know what this is counting but it's in AmmoSeek's top ten.

It would be interesting to see the trend over time. I would bet you go back a few years and 300blk held a bunch more market than that. I am assuming this is search/sales volume. Not sure how they track actual sales unless they have affiliate deals set up. So most likely this is a percentage of overall searches performed on their site.
TMS951
05-30-23, 14:29
People still shoot 300BLK? I thought it was a necro post at first.

Short, suppressed and subsonic it does very well. It’s no replacement for 5.56, it’s a niche, but fills it nicely. It would be hard to fill the same niche better. The fact it uses so many existing parts is also very convenient.
Armadillo
05-31-23, 03:13
Short, suppressed and subsonic it does very well. It’s no replacement for 5.56, it’s a niche, but fills it nicely. It would be hard to fill the same niche better. The fact it uses so many existing parts is also very convenient.

Can't get a suppressor.

If I get subsonic 300 - and wore hearing protection - would that be good enough to enjoy this upper?

How would THAT compare to a 10.5 inch 5.56?
Clint
05-31-23, 07:24
300BLK supers in an 8" barrel are less blasty than a 10.5" 556.
Eurodriver
05-31-23, 09:20
Can't get a suppressor.

If I get subsonic 300 - and wore hearing protection - would that be good enough to enjoy this upper?

How would THAT compare to a 10.5 inch 5.56?

300BLK subs compared to a 10.5" 5.56 aren't even a comparison. It's basically a 9mm with a longer barrel.
Armadillo
05-31-23, 15:45
300BLK supers in an 8" barrel are less blasty than a 10.5" 556.


300BLK subs compared to a 10.5" 5.56 aren't even a comparison. It's basically a 9mm with a longer barrel.

That is huge news to me!

I'm interested even if the ammo costs a fortune!