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markmiela
06-07-23, 08:12
Which would you pick?

BCM Recce-14 with Aimpoint T2 and Eotech G33

LWRC DI with Trijicon Credo 1-4

DDM4 V7 with Trijicon Credo 1-6

Lantac la-sf15 with Holosun 515 and HM3X.


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Hush
06-07-23, 08:16
BCM

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docsherm
06-07-23, 08:33
Which would you pick?

BCM Recce-14 with Aimpoint T2 and Eotech G33

LWRC DI with Trijicon Credo 1-4

DDM4 V7 with Trijicon Credo 1-6

Lantac la-sf15 with Holosun 515 and HM3X.


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The DDM4 hands down is the best one out of the four.

markm
06-07-23, 09:04
BCM

Yep. The DD would be second pick. Fukk the LWRCi garbage. Don't even know what the Lantac is.

Hank6046
06-07-23, 09:14
Why do you have to pick just one? I'd take the BCM but I want the 1-6x Trijicon from the DD, and then I'd still take the DD because why not.

titsonritz
06-07-23, 10:27
I don't accept the choice.

MegademiC
06-07-23, 11:57
Whats the purpose?

Rifle: DD or bcm
Optic: t2/3x or the 1-6 if they are durable and decent.

You really couldnt go wrong putting the t2/3x on the DD

markmiela
06-07-23, 13:41
Whats the purpose?

Rifle: DD or bcm
Optic: t2/3x or the 1-6 if they are durable and decent.

You really couldnt go wrong putting the t2/3x on the DD

Do all rifle.


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georgeib
06-07-23, 13:51
DD would be my first choice (probably), and BCM second. Forget the rest.

Dirty_H
06-07-23, 14:06
DD mostly because of the setup

Hank6046
06-07-23, 14:20
Do all rifle.

A do all rifle ends up looking like a Subaru Baja, super cool looking but there are going to be a lot of compromises made;).All of these fit more into the General Purpose rifle category. Figure out your needs, and what you want to do, and what your mission set is and have something that works with that.

B Cart
06-07-23, 14:52
If i could only have one, i would personally run a LPVO, as it gives the widest variability in engagement and PID distances. (the Credo wouldn't be my first choice in LPVO though).

Out of the setups you listed, i would go DDM4 followed by the BCM. I do think a red dot + magnifier can be a useful combo as well.

SteveL
06-07-23, 18:52
The BCM with the 1-6x scope.

Beat Trash
06-07-23, 19:16
DDV7 would be my pick. And it is my choice.

hotrodder636
06-07-23, 19:23
DD then the BCM.

Hammer_Man
06-07-23, 19:24
I’d go with a V7.

jdgiii
06-07-23, 19:45
BCM


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georgeib
06-07-23, 20:25
I'll give a bit of reasoning for my pick. The LVPO is a great general purpose optic for your stated purpose, and it will make better use of the DD's capabilities than it would the BCM's. DDs tend to generally be more accurate than BCMs. FWIW.

202
06-07-23, 20:46
DD would be my first choice, BCM second.

Colt Carson
06-08-23, 00:34
People get rid of their guns? :blink:

JediGuy
06-08-23, 05:01
DD then BCM

markmiela
06-08-23, 06:07
The responses are what I thought they would be. DD and BCM top the list.

I would probably keep the DD the BCM as well. The Lantac is a flat shooting rifle with zero recoil but the muzzle break is loud with a lot of flash. If I could cut the current brake off and put one on that has a can adapter with a can that would be my first choice. Being left handed the LWRC with the complete ambi lower and the CHF barrel are hard to beat.


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MegademiC
06-08-23, 09:28
The responses are what I thought they would be. DD and BCM top the list.

I would probably keep the DD the BCM as well. The Lantac is a flat shooting rifle with zero recoil but the muzzle break is loud with a lot of flash. If I could cut the current brake off and put one on that has a can adapter with a can that would be my first choice. Being left handed the LWRC with the complete ambi lower and the CHF barrel are hard to beat.


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Put the dd (which also has a chf barrel) upper on the lwrc lower.
What will you be doing more of, 300yds an in or 300yards and further?

markmiela
06-08-23, 11:44
Put the dd (which also has a chf barrel) upper on the lwrc lower.
What will you be doing more of, 300yds an in or 300yards and further?

300 and in. Range only has 200 for public use.


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mig1nc
06-09-23, 04:30
T2 if you ever plan to get into NV.

Otherwise 1-6 lpvo.

Gun I’d pick would be the DD.


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MegademiC
06-09-23, 09:44
300 and in. Range only has 200 for public use.


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Id recommend the DD w/t2. I dont see anything the lpvo does better at those ranges, but there are things the rds provide over the lpvo.

Dutch110
06-09-23, 10:09
Funny I have two of the setups you listed. The LWRCi has one of the best ambi lowers on the market. It's underrated. But I don't find having an ambi lower as being the deciding criteria for a duty rifle. After all you can set a non ambi lower up to have everything ambi except maybe the bolt release.

I LOVE my T2 with Aimpoint 3x behind it. I have it on a BCM build in 11.5. I also have two other builds with the Credo on it and prefer the RDS set up over them.

I don't like DD. Never have. Never will. Just personal preference.

I think for a do it all rifle the BCM is the one I would keep. I might update the mag to a 5x however.

georgeib
06-09-23, 11:48
I'll say that I have near identical twin setups in 11.5" and 16" barrels with LVPOs and RDSs on each pair. I certainly prefer the lighter and faster RDS rifles, be it 11.5" or 16" when shooting within 100 yards (which is 95%+ of what I do), but at longer distances and more precisely aimed fire the LVPOs come into their own big time. I can also envision scenarios inside of 100 yards where an LVPO is preferable, such as when presented with a smaller target.

Remember the video of the cop who had to engage a guy holding a kid hostage? He got out his patrol car, dialed up his magnification and dropped the guy like a sack of potatoes. There is really not much doubt that the LVPO is a more versatile setup. But it comes with certain compromises intrinsic to its design. It is what it is. Not as fast as an RDS up close, but not that far off either. Not as reliable as an RDS, but close enough for the vast majority of scenarios.

If I could only have one, I'd be hard pressed to pick between the two setups. But as the OP was asking for what would make the best "general" use rifle, I recommended the LVPO. To be fair, I think this depends to a degree on AO, but even in an urban environment an LVPO holds advantages in target ID and making hits on targets mostly occluded by cover.

Dutch110
06-09-23, 12:49
If I could only have one, I'd be hard pressed to pick between the two setups. But as the OP was asking for what would make the best "general" use rifle, I recommended the LVPO. To be fair, I think this depends to a degree on AO, but even in an urban environment an LVPO holds advantages in target ID and making hits on targets mostly occluded by cover.

I guess it depends on WHICH lpvo, right? 1-4 Credo vs G33/T2 setup the OP listed I think I still would go RDS. Having both I find I don't give up all that much with the loss of 1x on max mag with the RDS. However. If you would tell me I could have an NX6 instead of the RDS/ MAG setup? Buh bye RDS.

georgeib
06-09-23, 13:29
I guess it depends on WHICH lpvo, right? 1-4 Credo vs G33/T2 setup the OP listed I think I still would go RDS. Having both I find I don't give up all that much with the loss of 1x on max mag with the RDS. However. If you would tell me I could have an NX6 instead of the RDS/ MAG setup? Buh bye RDS.

Fair point. In my case, the answer would be 5x and above.

ncstroker
07-17-23, 06:21
BCM


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