seang
12-30-08, 19:18
Last week I had left my previous duty weapon (Sig 229R) in my squad in a locked case for a few hours when it was really cold out (Minnesota). I carry the issued M&P .40 for now. We have a range in the basement of our department and I had brought the Sig with me to shoot and clean. When I attempted to fire the first round the gun didn't fire. All rounds after that did fire. I was using CCI aluminimum cased .40. My squad was parked outside before I fired the Sig that evening. We do leave the squads running in cold temps, but I had accidentally shut the heat off.
I didn't think a whole lot of it at the time, but had never had that happen. I wondered if it was from the gun being so cold. That night it was -10 below and -31 with wind chill. I shot a Beretta 92D Centurion I had brought with me also. That gun was also very cold, but fired.
I decided to leave the Sig in the case in my squad overnight when I got home last night. I have a take home car and it is kept in a locked garage. When I got to the office today I immediately went to the range and attempted to shoot the Sig. Same thing happened this time. First round didn't go off after attempting to fire it two times. I ejected that round and then fired the rest of the rounds just fine. I did fire that round later. The ammunition was warm it hadn't been left in the car.
My Sig was cleaned after I fired it last time. I had lubed it as normal. Even though I shoot alot, I won't claim to know the first thing about the mechanics of firearms, so any ideas on what this could be from?
I have considered lubricant could frozen in the the cold,but I am not overly generous with lube? Any reason the gun wouldn't fire the first and second try, but did right after I put a mag through? I will try some different ammo, but don't believe that is the cause. I have shot that same ammunition in other guns between these two instances. I also haven't had any problems with CCI even though I know some people don't like it at all. I just think it is rather concidental it happens both times only on the first shot and that round fired after a third try after I put some rounds downrange.
I am going to see what happens when I do this with my glock and M&P also. Even though there wouldn't be a reason for my gun to be exposed to the cold that long, I obviously have to spend time out in the cold tempatures more often than I would like for crashes, etc and our guns do get cold. I am curious on what will happen if I try this again.
Just thought I would share this and see if anyone else has had similar instances or can offer possible explanations. I am not criticizing the gun, but am looking for ideas on how to get to the bottom of it.
I do know this is very limited info and wouldn't call it testing, but will have to investigate further.
FYI, not that it matters, but I posted this at 10-8 forums also just to get additional results, opinons.
I didn't think a whole lot of it at the time, but had never had that happen. I wondered if it was from the gun being so cold. That night it was -10 below and -31 with wind chill. I shot a Beretta 92D Centurion I had brought with me also. That gun was also very cold, but fired.
I decided to leave the Sig in the case in my squad overnight when I got home last night. I have a take home car and it is kept in a locked garage. When I got to the office today I immediately went to the range and attempted to shoot the Sig. Same thing happened this time. First round didn't go off after attempting to fire it two times. I ejected that round and then fired the rest of the rounds just fine. I did fire that round later. The ammunition was warm it hadn't been left in the car.
My Sig was cleaned after I fired it last time. I had lubed it as normal. Even though I shoot alot, I won't claim to know the first thing about the mechanics of firearms, so any ideas on what this could be from?
I have considered lubricant could frozen in the the cold,but I am not overly generous with lube? Any reason the gun wouldn't fire the first and second try, but did right after I put a mag through? I will try some different ammo, but don't believe that is the cause. I have shot that same ammunition in other guns between these two instances. I also haven't had any problems with CCI even though I know some people don't like it at all. I just think it is rather concidental it happens both times only on the first shot and that round fired after a third try after I put some rounds downrange.
I am going to see what happens when I do this with my glock and M&P also. Even though there wouldn't be a reason for my gun to be exposed to the cold that long, I obviously have to spend time out in the cold tempatures more often than I would like for crashes, etc and our guns do get cold. I am curious on what will happen if I try this again.
Just thought I would share this and see if anyone else has had similar instances or can offer possible explanations. I am not criticizing the gun, but am looking for ideas on how to get to the bottom of it.
I do know this is very limited info and wouldn't call it testing, but will have to investigate further.
FYI, not that it matters, but I posted this at 10-8 forums also just to get additional results, opinons.