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I'm bored and decided to build something new.
I want a light weight mid-length 14.5" upper with a Surefire pinned/welded flash hider.
Who should I look to for a lightweight mid-length 14.5" barrel? BCM has some nice looking options, but they seem to be perpetually out of stock.
Don't plan on doing many mag dumps so heat dissipation isn't a real issue.
While the plan is to NOT run it suppressed I may one day add a Surefire SOCOM mini. Would like something properly gassed as I don't plan on running an adjustable gas block.
Looking for just the barrel, not a complete upper.
Any suggestions would be appreciated!
The BRT CHF 14.5” has a really nice profile. Also consider the Criterion Core, if available.
BA Hanson, maybe? There are some good Green Mountain options, as well.
BCM's ELW is unbelievable. That is THE light weight set up to have.
Mine is the smoothest AND lightest gun I've ever shot. Part of the glory might be the gunfighter muzzle device, but it's permed so I've never tried it with a regular flash hider.
BCM's ELW is unbelievable. That is THE light weight set up to have.
I was just strolling by to comment the same thing.
Johnny Rico
09-11-23, 17:44
BCM's ELW is unbelievable. That is THE light weight set up to have.
Mine is the smoothest AND lightest gun I've ever shot. Part of the glory might be the gunfighter muzzle device, but it's permed so I've never tried it with a regular flash hider.
I was just strolling by to comment the same thing.
Good to know. And here I was thinking I messed up not ordering a Sionics lightweight setup when I had the chance.
I've got a couple BCM ELW 16s, and would likely get another if I felt a need for another lightweight build.
They're worth the wait.
Or BKF had Ballistic Advantage 14.7” Pencil barrels for $88.
BA certainly exists, and I even have one in 308 Win, but you won't see me recommend one over BCM, Criterion, or any other maker of quality LW barrels.
danieljmaunder
09-11-23, 18:15
Centurion makes a solid hammer forged lightweight 14.5 as well. Its not a pencil weight but its lighter than gov profile and is extremely well built.
BA certainly exists, and I even have one in 308 Win, but you won't see me recommend one over BCM, Criterion, or any other maker of quality LW barrels.
I’m not going to argue which is better, but SOLGW appears to white label this barrel, so I’m guessing it’s at least a decent option.
Edit: It’s also in stock.
A couple years ago, I had to buy a used BCM upper assembly (or just barrel, I don’t remember) that someone had pinned, then I cut off the MD, just to get an ELW Fluted barrel. They’re nice, but not always available. Also, there are credible concerns on this forum and others (YouTube, etc) demonstrating very poor performance out of some BCM barrel, coupled with horrific customer service. So defaulting to BCM isn’t necessarily the right thing to do.
Regarding Criterion, though I enjoy my 13.9” Core, the 14.5” is not “lightweight” by any means.
BCM's ELW is unbelievable. That is THE light weight set up to have.
Mine is the smoothest AND lightest gun I've ever shot. Part of the glory might be the gunfighter muzzle device, but it's permed so I've never tried it with a regular flash hider.
I have to agree, this is the barrel I choose and love it's performance.
Bravo Company 14.5” ELW Accuracy: A Quick Look
ELW stands for enhanced light-weight. This barrel is from Bravo Company’s cold-hammer forged series of barrels. The barrel has a “continuous taper” design with a smooth shoulder at the gas block journal, which reportedly improves barrel harmonics. This barrel has a mid-length gas system and a 0.625” gas block journal.
According to Bravo Company, this barrel has a stripped weight of 1 pound, 5 ounces. For comparison, a Colt 14.5” M4 barrel has a stripped weight of 1 pound, 9 ounces.
BCM 14.5” ELW
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28568/bcm_elw_stock_phonto_01_resized-1298250.jpg
Colt 14.5” M4 barrel. (not stripped)
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28568/colt_m4_barrel_01_resized-1298030.jpg
I purchased this barrel as part of a BCM factory assembled upper receiver group with the MCMR 13” free-float hand guard. The barrel has BCM’s pinned and welded A2X flash hider.
Shooting off-the-bench at a distance of 100 yards (using a high magnification scope), this barrel produced a 10-shot group that has an extreme spread of 0.946” with a mean radius of 0.33”.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28568/bcm_elw_10_shot_group_at_100_yards_01_re-1253570.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28568/bcm_14_5_elw_001_resized_08-1253427b-1856118.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28568/bcm_elw_borescope_001-2247926.jpg
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https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28568/m855a1_muzzle_velocities_002-2426796.jpg
I’m not going to argue which is better, but SOLGW appears to white label this barrel, so I’m guessing it’s at least a decent option.
Edit: It’s also in stock.
A couple years ago, I had to buy a used BCM upper assembly (or just barrel, I don’t remember) that someone had pinned, then I cut off the MD, just to get an ELW Fluted barrel. They’re nice, but not always available. Also, there are credible concerns on this forum and others (YouTube, etc) demonstrating very poor performance out of some BCM barrel, coupled with horrific customer service. So defaulting to BCM isn’t necessarily the right thing to do.
Regarding Criterion, though I enjoy my 13.9” Core, the 14.5” is not “lightweight” by any means.
You’re right, the Core is not super light, but it handles much lighter than the scale implies. All the weight is near the chamber. I forgot about SOLGW; I’ve got their 14.7”, and its fairly light at 21.1oz, and very well balanced. Thats lighter than the BRT I recommended earlier at 24.6oz.
Alright, you guys convinced me to wait for the BCM ELW. At this point I'll just buy a complete upper since they can P/W the surefire flash hider I want.
I already signed up for them email notification. Anyone care to venture a guess as to how often they become available?
BA certainly exists, and I even have one in 308 Win, but you won't see me recommend one over BCM, Criterion, or any other maker of quality LW barrels.
What don't you like about the BA barrel?
I forgot about SOLGW; I’ve got their 14.7”, and its fairly light at 21.1oz, and very well balanced. Thats lighter than the BRT I recommended earlier at 24.6oz.
This looks like a great deal for something with the SOLGW warranty. https://www.gandrtactical.com/SOLGW-147-Combat-Grade-556-Lightweight-Barrel_p_3449.html
The BRT CHF 14.5” has a really nice profile. Also consider the Criterion Core, if available.
BA Hanson, maybe? There are some good Green Mountain options, as well.
All of these as well as the BCM ELW, there seems to be a ton of good options right now
What don't you like about the BA barrel?
I didn’t say I don’t like their barrels. I said I won’t recommend them over one of the others already mentioned in this thread.
For a budget build, I’m sure they’re fine. I didn’t get the idea from the OP that budget is tight for this purchase.
I think I paid $200 or less for the 308 barrel and it works, but it’s nothing special.
danieljmaunder
09-12-23, 16:43
I've seen some folks on one of the other forums stating the same. Particularly being unimpressed with their ss410 barrels. I used to be a hardcore BCM fan, but now days there are a lot of quality options so if its a known reputable manufacturer or oem supplier I'm not nearly as picky.
I actually haven’t purchased a BCM barrel in a few years. My last ones have been Criterion, Centurion, and Sionics.
I didn’t say I don’t like their barrels. I said I won’t recommend them over one of the others already mentioned in this thread.
Right you are. I incorrectly inferred your tone.
Defaultmp3
09-13-23, 09:43
V7 has a fairly light stainless steel barrel, especially if you get the fluted version, 20.3 oz with a gas block.
BCM 14.5 Light weight, have both CHF and non with a 0.625 gas block journal
DD 14.5 Light weight, CHF with a 0.75 gas block journal
Noveske 14.5 Light Afgan, have both CHF and Stainless with a 0.625 gas block journal
Centurion Arms 14.5 light weight, CHF with 0.75 gas block journal
Criterion Core 14.5 0.625 gas bock journal
Criterion Light Weight 14.5 with a 0.75 gas block journal
BA has hanson profile
Faxon has skinny profiles
spikes tactical optimum chf 14.5 is the same contour as the Centurion arms light weight.
The uppers are back in stock if anyone is interested. I picked one up.
https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcm-mk2-bfh-14-5-mid-length-enhanced-light-weight-upper-receiver-group-w-mcmr-13-handguard/
Or BKF had Ballistic Advantage 14.7” Pencil barrels for $88.
now 60! steal at that price
the best however, is the Spikes https://aimsurplus.com/products/spikes-tactical-14-5-5-56-mid-length-lw-nfa-pistol-barrel
Where do you see for $60?
BCM 14.5 Light weight, have both CHF and non with a 0.625 gas block journal
DD 14.5 Light weight, CHF with a 0.75 gas block journal
Noveske 14.5 Light Afgan, have both CHF and Stainless with a 0.625 gas block journal
Centurion Arms 14.5 light weight, CHF with 0.75 gas block journal
Criterion Core 14.5 0.625 gas bock journal
Criterion Light Weight 14.5 with a 0.75 gas block journal
BA has hanson profile
Faxon has skinny profiles
spikes tactical optimum chf 14.5 is the same contour as the Centurion arms light weight.
I have the Noveske light Afghan barrel. It's light and accurate but over gassed. With a LMT enhanced bolt carrier, BCM extended stock tube [it's their A5 copy], Giessele super 42 rifle spring and A3 buffer I've managed to get the ejection to roughly 3:00. I have a BRT gas tube waiting to be installed.
I also have a BA black stainless 16" mid, not a lightweight but it too is over gassed and waiting for a BRT gass tube.
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