I would love to know the back story on this one.

[Averageman]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/navy-fires-commander-of-biomedical-research-lab/ar-BB1l94f5?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=3dbe4de4626b431f9346d7fb87423112&ei=11

The Navy fired the commanding officer of a Lima, Peru, based biomedical research lab on Friday, less than a year after she assumed command.

Capt. Abigail Y. Marter was relieved as head of Naval Medical Research Unit South "due to a loss of confidence in her ability to command," the Navy said in a statement.

So what so you do as the Commander of a Bio Research Lab that would cause Command to lose confidence?
Or is this something that involves escaped monkeys and is going to scare the crap out of me?

[nick84]

Ehh. That's sort of like the old catch-all "conduct unbecoming." Impossible to say; could be garden variety shit-baggery, something lewd, poor decision making...you name it. Important take-away is that it could unimportant or embarrassing, but the Navy's unwillingness or inability to provide details can't really be slanted to any particular conclusion. My .02

[opngrnd]

What Nick said. I've heard of commanders being relieved from things ranging from adultery to being abrasive enough it hindered the mission.

[Averageman]

I'm surprised by a couple of things her.
Lima Peru? Really?
When I was in the Military, I saw a couple of Officers get relieved, most of them were Second Lieutenant's with the rare Captain mixed in. A Navy Captain however is a much higher rank then an Army Captain, so?
In my day to day experiance in the Army I noticed a marked difference in discipline between Comabat and Support's idea of what Military Discipline was. I thought most of the REMF's acted like Clowns in a Circus when it came to Military Discipline, so I can't imagine what the "Norm" is for Military working in a Bio Lab.
My concern comes down to was it caused by something in the Lab or was she playing hide the schnitzel with a subordinate?

[TBAR_94]

I was never in the Navy, but having been around medical units off and on I'd be willing to be this is something very benign. Especially overseas--too many sailors getting busted for DUIs, drugs, sneaking locals on base, etc. Or just a bad command climate where everyone is over worked and unhappy, or just really terrible admin leading to failed inspections.

[SteyrAUG]

What Nick said. I've heard of commanders being relieved from things ranging from adultery to being abrasive enough it hindered the mission.

Seen the above many, many times.

[Rob96]

Hell when I was an SP at Clark AB in the late 80's we had a full bird Colonel in correctional custody because he was banging a young female Airman. He was busted from O-6to E-1. Forget how much time he had to do in CC.

I sure hope that arse was worth it.

[flenna]

Hell when I was an SP at Clark AB in the late 80's we had a full bird Colonel in correctional custody because he was banging a young female Airman. He was busted from O-6to E-1. Forget how much time he had to do in CC.

I sure hope that arse was worth it.

Eh, that’s easy to get out of today. Just show up to work in a skirt, say your new name is Jasmine and you identify as a female lesbian. Then you would be untouchable and at the top of the list for promotion.

[Coal Dragger]

You don’t even need to do that now.

The UCMJ is now only applied to enlisted service members. Officers just end up resigning their commissions or retiring, because the bad PR is worse to the services than some of the heinous shit officers do.

[chuckman]

There is a great paper that a military officer wrote at Duke around 2015 that was just as true then as it is today, examining the delta of command, the axis of competence versus character.

I have never known a commanding officer to be relieved, but I have had OIC's be relieved. Nurses in general tend to be empaths, want to be everyone's friend. I think it was this, or she went 180 and turned into Captain Bligh.

I will say this, though. The Navy does not care if command is an aircraft carrier, a rowboat, a seal team, or a medical command. The expectations remain the same.

[Alpha-17]

Is it just me, or does it seem like the Navy is canning a lot of commanding officers right now? If I'm remembering correctly, we've had multiple sub skippers and surface ship captains removed recently as well.

[Averageman]

Is it just me, or does it seem like the Navy is canning a lot of commanding officers right now? If I'm remembering correctly, we've had multiple sub skippers and surface ship captains removed recently as well.

A Plethora?
I'm not an expert on the Navy, but the Army began " Sensativity Sessions" which I believe undermind the Command at every turn.

[chuckman]

Is it just me, or does it seem like the Navy is canning a lot of commanding officers right now? If I'm remembering correctly, we've had multiple sub skippers and surface ship captains removed recently as well.

Google the Delta of Command, the paper examines firings from around 2000-2015. I think the navy is slightly ahead of pace, but not my much.