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recon
01-21-09, 22:31
Dick Morris: "Here Comes Socialism"

Long but excellent analysis of the next two years under Barack Obama and the Democrat-controlled Congress:


"2009-2010 will rank with 1913-14, 1933-36, 1964-65 and 1981-82 as years that will permanently change our government, politics and lives. Just as the stars were aligned for Wilson, Roosevelt, Johnson and Reagan, they are aligned for Obama. Simply put, we enter his administration as free-enterprise, market-dominated, laissez-faire America. We will shortly become like Germany, France, the United Kingdom, or Sweden — a socialist democracy in which the government dominates the economy, determines private-sector priorities and offers a vastly expanded range of services to many more people at much higher taxes.


Obama will accomplish his agenda of “reform” under the rubric of “recovery.” Using the electoral mandate bestowed on a Democratic Congress by restless voters and the economic power given his administration by terrified Americans, he will change our country fundamentally in the name of lifting the depression. His stimulus packages won’t do much to shorten the downturn — although they will make it less painful — but they will do a great deal to change our nation.


In implementing his agenda, Barack Obama will emulate the example of Franklin D. Roosevelt. (Not the liberal mythology of the New Deal, but the actuality of what it accomplished.) When FDR took office, he was enormously successful in averting a total collapse of the banking system and the economy. But his New Deal measures only succeeded in lowering the unemployment rate from 23 percent in 1933, when he took office, to 13 percent in the summer of 1937. It never went lower. And his policies of over-regulation generated such business uncertainty that they triggered a second-term recession. Unemployment in 1938 rose to 17 percent and, in 1940, on the verge of the war-driven recovery, stood at 15 percent. (These data and the real story of Hoover’s and Roosevelt’s missteps, uncolored by ideology, are available in The Forgotten Man by Amity Shlaes, copyright 2007.)


But in the name of a largely unsuccessful effort to end the Depression, Roosevelt passed crucial and permanent reforms that have dominated our lives ever since, including Social Security, the creation of the Securities and Exchange Commission, unionization under the Wagner Act, the federal minimum wage and a host of other fundamental changes.


Obama’s record will be similar, although less wise and more destructive. He will begin by passing every program for which liberals have lusted for decades, from alternative-energy sources to school renovations, infrastructure repairs and technology enhancements. These are all good programs, but they normally would be stretched out for years. But freed of any constraint on the deficit — indeed, empowered by a mandate to raise it as high as possible — Obama will do them all rather quickly.


But it is not his spending that will transform our political system, it is his tax and welfare policies. In the name of short-term stimulus, he will give every American family (who makes less than $200,000) a welfare check of $1,000 euphemistically called a refundable tax credit. And he will so sharply cut taxes on the middle class and the poor that the number of Americans who pay no federal income tax will rise from the current one-third of all households to more than half. In the process, he will create a permanent electoral majority that does not pay taxes, but counts on ever-expanding welfare checks from the government. The dependency on the dole, formerly limited in pre-Clinton days to 14 million women and children on Aid to Families with Dependent Children, will now grow to a clear majority of the American population.


Will he raise taxes? Why should he? With a congressional mandate to run the deficit up as high as need be, there is no reason to raise taxes now and risk aggravating the depression. Instead, Obama will follow the opposite of the Reagan strategy. Reagan cut taxes and increased the deficit so that liberals could not increase spending. Obama will raise spending and increase the deficit so that conservatives cannot cut taxes. And, when the economy is restored, he will raise taxes with impunity, since the only people who will have to pay them would be rich Republicans.


In the name of stabilizing the banking system, Obama will nationalize it. Using Troubled Asset Relief Program funds to write generous checks to needy financial institutions, his administration will demand preferred stock in exchange. Preferred stock gets dividends before common stockholders do. With the massive debt these companies will owe to the government, they will only be able to afford dividends for preferred stockholders — the government, not private investors. So who will buy common stock? And the government will demand that its bills be paid before any profits that might materialize are reinvested in the financial institution, so how will the value of the stocks ever grow? Devoid of private investors, these institutions will fall ever more under government control.


Obama will begin the process by limiting executive compensation. Then he will urge restructuring and lowering of home mortgages in danger of default (as the feds have already done with Citibank).

Then will come guidance on the loans to make and government instructions on the types of enterprises to favor. God grant that some Blagojevich type is not in charge of the program, using his power to line his pockets. The United States will find itself with an economic system comparable to that of Japan, where the all-powerful bureaucracy at MITI (Ministry of International Trade and Industry) manages the economy, often making mistakes like giving mainframe computers priority over the development of laptops.


But it is the healthcare system that will experience the most dramatic and traumatic of changes. The current debate between erecting a Medicare-like governmental single payer or channeling coverage through private insurance misses the essential point. Without a lot more doctors, nurses, clinics, equipment and hospital beds, health resources will be strained to the breaking point. The people and equipment that now serve 250 million Americans and largely neglect all but the emergency needs of the other 50 million will now have to serve everyone. And, as government imposes ever more Draconian price controls and income limits on doctors, the supply of practitioners and equipment will decline as the demand escalates. Price increases will be out of the question, so the government will impose healthcare rationing, denying the older and sicker among us the care they need and even barring them from paying for it themselves. (Rationing based on income and price will be seen as immoral.)


And Obama will move to change permanently the partisan balance in America. He will move quickly to legalize all those who have been in America for five years, albeit illegally, and to smooth their paths to citizenship and voting. He will weaken border controls in an attempt to hike the Latino vote as high as he can in order to make red states like Texas into blue states like California. By the time he is finished, Latinos and African-Americans will cast a combined 30 percent of the vote. If they go by top-heavy margins for the Democrats, as they did in 2008, it will assure Democratic domination (until they move up the economic ladder and become good Republicans).


And he will enact the check-off card system for determining labor union representation, repealing the secret ballot in union elections. The result will be to raise the proportion of the labor force in unions up to the high teens from the current level of about 12 percent.


Finally, he will use the expansive powers of the Federal Communications Commission to impose “local” control and ownership of radio stations and to impose the “fairness doctrine” on talk radio. The effect will be to drive talk radio to the Internet, fundamentally change its economics, and retard its growth for years hence.


But none of these changes will cure the depression. It will end when the private sector works through the high debt levels that triggered the collapse in the first place. And, then, the large stimulus package deficits will likely lead to rapid inflation, probably necessitating a second recession to cure it.


So Obama’s name will be mud by 2012 and probably by 2010 as well. And the Republican Party will make big gains and regain much of its lost power.


But it will be too late to reverse the socialism of much of the economy, the demographic change in the electorate, the rationing of healthcare by the government, the surge of unionization and the crippling of talk radio."

http://thehill.com/dick-morris/the-...2009-01-20.html

Mr.Goodtimes
01-21-09, 22:52
isnt that hit on talk radio a violation of our first amendment rights? the gov. controlling talk radio? sounds awfully communistic to me.

JBnTX
01-22-09, 11:14
"So Obama’s name will be mud by 2012 and probably by 2010 as well. And the Republican Party will make big gains and regain much of its lost power."

I truly believe this will be the case. Obama will be a one term president just
like Jimmy Carter. Carter was the worst president of the 20th century.

Just as Jimmy Carter brought us Ronald Reagan, Barrack Obama will bring us
the next great Conservative president.

rubberneck
01-22-09, 11:19
I think that anyone that under estimates this President does so at his own risk. As a purely political animal he is much closer to Clinton than he is Carter. He connects to many the way Clinton did and in a way that Carter never could. Even the people who were disappointed in Clinton refused to give up on him or were willing to make excuses for his behavior. Four years from now I get the sinking feeling that we'll be in a real dogfight for the White House and will lose if the GOP rolls out another Bob Dole/John McCain.

Business_Casual
01-22-09, 12:14
My opinion is that if you think he's a one-termer, you aren't paying attention.

Once they get control of the banks and then medical treatment, what is a "Republican" going to promise to get votes? I promise to give you less than my opponent, who is offering you all kinds of free stuff but since that is bad for capitalism vote for me? I think you can guess who will keep winning elections in the future.

The people in power are children. Our VP, Joe Biden, made fun of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court in public today like a fourth-grader. The average voter in this country is an infant and will suckle at the government teet as long as "I get mine."

I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

M_P

shadowalker
01-22-09, 12:37
I think Obama probably is a one term president, not because anything the Republicans will do (which is nothing, they think they need to be less conservative and less religious to win the next election) but because of what Obama can't do. He can't deliver on hardly anything he has been promising, we are beyond broke and no one wants to loan us money.

Congress and the president respond to this news by wanting a 1 trillion plus stimulus package? We are at a very real risk of completely collapsing financially, something our country is very unlikely to survive.

Obama has been back peddling or as his staff says "lowering expectations" and moderating himself for months and already faces resistance in congress. The democratic congress wants to have the presidency but don't really care which individual it is.

I think the government needs to raise taxes, but not on existing tax payers, on the 40% or so of America that today pays no taxes, heck even a 8 or 10% tax rate would make them vested in how the government is spending their money.

It is incredibly dangerous to have a large portion of society with no tax obligation, everything they get is *FREE* to them and they want more and more without any intent or obligation to pay for it.

Mortgage bailouts, extended unemployment benefits, universal health care and government sponsored retirement don't seem so appealing when you have to pay for it.

Ideally I'd like to see taxation become the responsibility of the state, they collect and keep 80% of the money to provide government services their people want and cut a check to the Federal government for federal services.

It probably wont happen but it would put an end to a lot of the wasteful government spending, local governments are far more responsive to the people, something our founding fathers knew.

JBnTX
01-22-09, 13:21
I think Obama probably is a one term president, not because anything the Republicans will do (which is nothing, they think they need to be less conservative and less religious to win the next election) but because of what Obama can't do. He can't deliver on hardly anything he has been promising, .....



Thank You!

Obama can't deliver on most of his promises. I think this also includes the next AWB.

Just wait until the black community and the far left figure this out and turn on him.
His "honeymoon" with the news media won't last much longer either.

He's going to be a big disappointment to a lot of liberals.

LOKNLOD
01-22-09, 13:48
The average voter in this country is an infant and will suckle at the government tit as long as "I get mine."


That's the bottom line, right there.

R1pper
01-23-09, 08:28
The average voter in this country is an infant and will suckle at the government teet as long as "I get mine."
M_P

Totally Agree. No one wants to work for anything any more. People feel they are entitled to things, and look where that got, huge bailouts, soaring debt, tanking economy!.

My parents made me go out and earn money if I wanted something and I busted my ass for it. My step brother is of the "New Generation" if you will and has everything handed to him, I look at him and fear for the worst.

-DM-

10MMGary
01-23-09, 12:26
"So Obama’s name will be mud by 2012 and probably by 2010 as well. And the Republican Party will make big gains and regain much of its lost power."

I truly believe this will be the case. Obama will be a one term president just
like Jimmy Carter. Carter was the worst president of the 20th century.

Just as Jimmy Carter brought us Ronald Reagan, Barrack Obama will bring us
the next great Conservative president.


JB I like the way you think on this issue. From your keyboard to Gods ears I pray.

Jay Cunningham
01-23-09, 12:28
Thank You!

Obama can't deliver on most of his promises. I think this also includes the next AWB.

Just wait until the black community and the far left figure this out and turn on him.
His "honeymoon" with the news media won't last much longer either.

He's going to be a big disappointment to a lot of liberals.

The above text in red just got this thread locked. Yes, I am being harsh. Yes, I will do it again and again and apparently again if I must.