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AR platform on display
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This can been on display and through all sort of class and demo...abusive testing at its best!
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FN SCAR-L, AAC was the original Suppressor supplier to the SCAR program. For a few years, this was one of the only SCAR in existant outside of FN and the military!
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interestingly, the FN SCAR with the AAC can is wearing aMagpul MIAD.
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The big daddy on the block compare to the new kid on the block! FN SCAR vs. Remington ACR.
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From the carbon build up on the receiver, you can tell this SCAR has been thoroughly tested and abused without much care and maintenance. a true testament to the engineering of the FN SCAR team.
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Remington ACR, somewhat different than the Bushmaster ACR in build and components and of course COST!
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MarshallDodge
01-26-10, 13:59
Very nice! Thanks for posting.
I wonder how long it will take before we see a Remington MCR in a movie. :cool:
The only thing that really did it for me was the Vltor suppressor- and even then there isn't a definite price on it-
Amen.
We will have to wait and see what the TCO (total cost of ownership) on that sucker is going to be before i get my hopes up.
For me it was a great show. Did a little business, met up with a number of my account managers/ reps, international customers, etc, and had the opportunity to sit down with R&D guys at some specific companies to give feed back. Stayed pretty busy with planned meetings and ended up stumbling upon a number of new contacts eager to work on fresh projects.
A lot of the gear I was looking at is heavy on the LE/MIL/Contractor side of things and there seems to be quite a bit of progress as guys rotate home and bring ideas back either with updates or new items.
Some stuff was unique for the sake of being unique but quite a bit is legit tools of the trade.
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SIG 516 piston based M4 carbine.
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SIG 522.
threefeathers
01-26-10, 20:30
Here are two versions of the Gas Trap Compak 16. Dr. Joe won his lawsuit on the system and production is slated to get going in the new 10K square foot factory in Phownix. The Compak16 with the supressor is the mate to one that was used by an NCO in SPEC Ops in Iraq and A-Stan, he killed in excess of 30 Haji's with it. He fired at least 20K rounds, many of them M262. This NCO is now assigned to Procurement and he brought his boss who purchased a fair number that will go the next step in field experimentation. Denny Hansen of SWAT owns one of the systems which he wrote about in the April 09 SWAT.
The gas trap is really a cooling chamber that sends 70% of the gunk in the gas out the barrel and only 30% of what would be in a D I system to run the bolt. It does not add a piston which is only adding parts.
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threefeathers
01-26-10, 20:49
The Arms Tech takedown rifle has a patented screw out barrel that returns to zero all of the time. Dr. Joe considers this one of his best inventions. This rifle breaks into three parts, none longer than 16 inches so that it can be carried from a FOB without the B G's realizing who has the rifle. LAPD procurement team spent a long time with this rifle at the show and we got to know them well. Putting it into a laptop case means that a security team can go to a stakeout and never alarm the civilians in the place. The supressor is a quick on off system that Denn Hansen describes in a SWAT article and it will not wear out.
This rifle is now being made in 7.62 and 338 Norma Magnum.
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I've got no direct information on that, and I hate posting second hand info.
One last question I forgot to ask earlier
Mega have any plans to release a .308 version ..billet upper and lower?
tia
When they make this, I'll buy it.
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SMGLee, Why does MR 5.56 have a different pistolgrip than HK416? Is the BCG different in MR 5.56???
Razorhunter
01-26-10, 23:27
The only real downside I see to that MR556A1 is that it just looks awful with that TOO short rail and long 16" bbl.
A few questions for anyone in the know:
1. -Does anyone know if there will by chance be a "long rail" version available? Doubt it, but most definitely worth asking. ?
2. -How about a 14.5" version? Again, doubtful, but I'll ask anyway. ?
3. -Is it possible to simply chop the bbl down to 14.5" and be GTG, or would that present any gas port sizing issues?
I've had literally everyone I have ever known in my entire life sending email after email to Hk for almost a year now, asking them, hell, literally begging them to ditch the proprietary receiver pin configuration and just go with a standard pin configuration.
I'm quite honestly amazed that they actually did it. Perhaps they've finally grown tired of releasing sub par versions of all their excellently designed firearms all these years? Who knows. At least they have made the "A1" a reality.
Anyhow, any info would be appreciated, pertaining to my questions above guys.
They make an A1 and A2 style version of the same grip.
Look at the buttstocks in the photos, you'll notice both a concave and convex shaped buttpad.
Razorhunter
01-27-10, 00:04
Here's another sincere request for Midlenth URX rails WITHOUT flip up front sights (so as to work with standard Midlength gas systems)
They would be SO easy to produce. Just run a modified CNC program and VOILA! KAC would then have the FF Rail market covered, and ultimately dominated. Actually, seeing how this rail has already been produced in small numbers, the CNC programming would be that much more easy as pie. Please oh please KAC.
Our rifle length rail works with a "Armalite" type midlength gas system, using a LP gas block.
We are NOT doing any rails without flip front sights other than the carbine length rail.
A lot of the spec are still under review, Colt is hoping to be able to use the a F marked FSB, but it is still working it out in the engineering side of the house.
the 6520 by Colt Tactical is looking at a market ETA of later this year.
Every one has an opinion. The Vltor gas block, the Centurion Arms Rail are all prospective.
As far as the rail, it is pretty darn robust compare to any rail on the market.
you can be happily tossing away your M4 stock, M4 handguards and your carry handle and modify your 6920 or get one of this Colt Tactical gun and be ready right out of the box.
You can criticize all you want, but this is a step forward for Colt, other than a few detractors, the overwhelming responses has been positive.
A 4th model could be pushed out along with the models displayed at SHOT. you might get your wish in one or two of your requests.
When Colt really decides it wants a piece of the commercial market, it should listen to the existing market, not invent a new one.
1. -Does anyone know if there will by chance be a "long rail" version available? Doubt it, but most definitely worth asking. ?
Just speculation on my part:
The 416/MR556 is already heavier than some people prefer, so adding more weight with a heavier rail isn't something I see HK doing.
DD is making the rail, and DD makes longer rails. If the gun sells well enough, presumably DD will make a full-length rail for the gun. Which people will then say is too heavy.
2. -How about a 14.5" version? Again, doubtful, but I'll ask anyway. ?
At this time, HK-USA is not planning to release NFA versions of the MR556. LE agencies and military units wishing for a 14.5" or shorter barrel can buy German-built 416s.
3. -Is it possible to simply chop the bbl down to 14.5" and be GTG, or would that present any gas port sizing issues?
According to the folks at HK I spoke with, it's a simple barrel chop. The gas system is identical on all models regardless of barrel length.
Perhaps they've finally grown tired of releasing sub par versions of all their excellently designed firearms all these years?
Actually, it was the German government which initially insisted on the different pin hole alignment and HK GmbH/HK-USA worked very hard to get that changed so the uppers would be compatible with standard AR lowers. But your version of events certainly sounds sexier...
clickclack
01-27-10, 12:11
dear god that 762 is all that is right in the world.. my acr fund will go to that if they can get it out in time and priced the same as scar H... omg! its beautiful
When Colt really decides it wants a piece of the commercial market, it should listen to the existing market, not invent a new one.
funnything, someone else said exactly the opposite to your statement about Colt. Everyone has an idea, and I think everyone want to see a name like Colt do well, but all thing take time and carefully planned steps. New direction, follow the market, no matter what Colt does, there will be voice on either side. I just hope Colt will succeed
RogerinTPA
01-27-10, 12:48
Nice pics SMGLee. Glad to see Colt is trying to pay attention to the Civi market after years of neglect. Now if they'd just introduce mid-lengths into their line up.
whiterabbit05
01-27-10, 14:02
Mhmmmm....FNP-45 Tactical...
variablebinary
01-27-10, 15:04
Any sign of SBR barrels for the 16S?
MikeCLeonard
01-27-10, 15:50
Just speculation on my part:
According to the folks at HK I spoke with, it's a simple barrel chop. The gas system is identical on all models regardless of barrel length.
With regard to chopping the barrel, doesn't the barrel need to be removed from the upper receiver?
I was under the impression that the 416 had a proprietary barrel wrench so who would be able to do the barrel chop?
Also, any info on whether to BCG is the same as the 416 or is it altered?
Thanks for the info Todd
-Mike Leonard
While the 16" may have the same gas block and port size as the 14.5" - the 10.4" gun has a different block.
Interesting that DD is making the rail.
Clint, try shooting some of the new Mk316 ammo, it is much more accurate and consistent than M118LR.
Nice pics SMGLee. Glad to see Colt is trying to pay attention to the Civi market after years of neglect. Now if they'd just introduce mid-lengths into their line up.
Can we agree to let the fan boy manufacturers corner the market on the "other" length gas systems? Colt is doing just fine without one.
Didn't I see an AR 308 at their booth?
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The gun that won the British 308 contract. a direct gas US made LMT MRP 308.
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I have had a number of people come up to me both online and in person wanting to buy a Colt M16A4 style gun.
When I tell them they are SOL, the look on their face is :( or :mad:
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The new design rail LWRC M6 SPR with twist flute SS match barrel.
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As seen here the prototype has the carbine length gas system, the future production version will have the actual M6A3 mid length piston system
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The new rail system is slimmer, lighter, and has the modular rail attachment points so you do not have to have rail where it does not require one.
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Top down profile of the rail, one of the slimmer model in the industry.
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LWRC flip up rear BUIS
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with an innovating twist aparture. with a total of four separate peep within one post.
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I did not have a chance to check out the sight in depth, but when I order my new M6A3 with the new rail system, I am sure I will have to get a set of those new sights to eval.
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A very Troy looking front sight but differ with serration on the back side and side of the front post. Serration on the back side of the post should eliminate any reflection.
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M6 PSD
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MaTech elevation adjustable Aimpoint T1 mount.
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New Matech rear sight, cross like aparture that can be rotated to set to the correct peep for various distances.
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An set screw to lock down the sight to level it on the rail...
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I have had a number of people come up to me both online and in person wanting to buy a Colt M16A4 style gun.
When I tell them they are SOL, the look on their face is :( or :mad:
So why do you tell them they are SOL? like i been trying to say, all good thing come in time. and you don't know what is planned at Colt, this new division is a start for Colt and you just might be surprised on what might come down the pipe next.
travistheone
01-28-10, 01:13
Great pics of great looking stuff.
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Testing result on this new heavy caliber mount shows the recoil impulse were reduced by half or more with this new ARMS designed mount.
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The white line indicate the lever are set to mil-spec rail, if the levers are having a hard time locking, back off the locking tab and turn the adjustment ring on the mount to loosen or tighten the lever for a proper fit.
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ARMS' new polymer BUIS.
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The rear sight utilizing steel aperture.
variablebinary
01-28-10, 01:44
Interesting polymer BUIS. I like their new throw lever design as well
I'm all atwitter over that Lightweight Government. Thanks for sharing!
FnB
Interesting that the upper is marked
HK Newington NH
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Vltor's new FAL rail system.
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Even cooler is the Vltor's FN SCAR stock adapter that converts the folding SCAR stock to a AR style system, great for those States that have a min. length requirement.
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Interesting to see Vltor jumping into suppressor manufacturing.
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Mark Krebs awesome AK creation. Krebs custom has got to be one of the best AK parts and completely gun manufacture.
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FN M249/Mk46 stock conversion.
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Vltor iMOD stock, this stock will replace the older MOD stock. basically a MOd stock with a revised butt pad.
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A rubber butt pad much like the eMOD stock, but without the steel ring on the bottom of the toe.
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Didn't I see an AR 308 at their booth?
Yes, its call the 716.
Josh_Denny
01-28-10, 06:11
Also don't take KevinB's beer since I'm using it a spitter so unless you like drinking my chew spit, its nasty - someone found out the hardway minespeeping me is a bad idea :D
LOL. That is freaking nasty. I've seen someone make a similar mistake, fortunately I was well out of the blast zone :D
Great pics! That SPR is one sexy biatche!
Will there be a stock Lightweight Government model like the Ser. 70. The new roll marks are an improvement, I would like to see them on the Ser. 70 GM.
DD says they are not making the rail for the MR556.
clickclack
01-28-10, 09:34
anone know how much them fluted barrels weigh?
I spoke with one of the DD engineers at SHOT and he indicated they were developing a rail for the 416. Not sure if the 416 and 556 rails are interchangeable.
Jake
RogerinTPA
01-28-10, 11:20
Can we agree to let the fan boy manufacturers corner the market on the "other" length gas systems? Colt is doing just fine without one.
I Disagree. A mid-length, which is the most efficient and practical choice on the 16 inch carbine, is my preference, and that would present more options and level the playing field if they decided to offer one in the future. There is no down side to offering middy into the line up.
As soon as Remington start shipping them....:D
Chen,
Ive heard mention of some new 5.56 muzzle brakes that are coming out but i cant seem to find any info on them.
Did you take any pictures of those?
Any news on the Bren Ten pistol?
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Armalite released their new Monolithic rail platform. the new one piece rail system is machined completely of of one piece solid block and it accepts standard mil-spec barrels.
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Mid Length version coming soon.
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The monolithic receiver consist of one piece rail upper receiver, and several separate hand guard section for a modular capability.
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From this view point, you can see all the section connected to form the rail handguard.
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Steel barrel nut and the barrel nut tool are included in the package.
Got to hand it to AAC unlike many other companies they seem to bring quite a few cans that look like they had the crap shot out of them.
Chen,
Ive heard mention of some new 5.56 muzzle brakes that are coming out but i cant seem to find any info on them.
Did you take any pictures of those?
Are you referring to the Brakeout (http://www.aacblog.com/?p=6041)?
Neat T-1 mount. I wonder how practical it is with a 4 MOA dot to shoot 400 plus yards?
Spooky
Glad I've got my order in for the .308 MRP! It looks awesome! I wonder what the key differences will be between the UK MoD rifle and the USA commercial release...
Spooky
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I believe that mount was developed for use on machine guns, so very fine accuracy may not be absolutely necessary.
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Saber Defense won the Naval contract to supply M16A4 to the Navy and USMC.
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EzGoingKev
01-28-10, 15:31
Is there a set set screw where I circled in red and if so, what is its purpose?
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that is a pin to keep the buffer detect in place.
I've thought that there might be a few problems with the HK elevated upper rail, but those of you with experience please let me know if I am wrong.
1. That BUIS when down looks like it would be hanging around just waiting to get hit and break off without any support from the upper receiver underneath.
2. Also, wouldn't the elevated rail screw up your cheek weld for most of your optic mount choices? With the lower one third optics, wouldn't that put your cheek weld out of reach?
3. I know there are specific optic mounts and BUIS that were designed with this elevated rail in mind, but aren't they pretty limited right now? Which I'm sure the options would diversify once HKs stuff hit the market though.
4. But with the shorter optic mounts designed for the HK, doesn't that limit options for putting stuff (ex. PEQ) on the rail in front of the optic? Or does it just lower the optic to absolute cowitness height like an eotech and everything would be fine?
Magpul's truck on display out side of the Rio hotel on the night of the AAC party.
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Ronin, a Buell motorcyle with Magpul magic...
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DVD super star, the ever more popular Travis and Costa
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Cool Magpul has a stealth truck...:)
Chen, Exellent pics
again much thanks
Very difficult to take picture with the rifle on a black background wall. plus the lighting isn't the best for camera work...but never the less, Magpul always sport a very cool display.
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Magpul babes signing autograph.....
Thanks Chen! been waiting for pics from the Magpul booth, any more shots of the new MOE gear?
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This year EOTech riding on the success on the XPS line, roll out their next improved sight platform based on the XPS but with a build in riser mount and a quick release lever. the EXPS also features a side mount buttons for night vision and magnifier.
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Side by side comparison with the XPS
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The lever is adjustable via the screw on the opposite side. to make the lever fit any rail dimension.
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EOTech's version of Corner shot...
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killswitch1982
01-28-10, 20:50
It's about time Colt got serious about the 1911 again. They've been sitting on their laurels for far too long and their QC has been suffering for years.
However it kind of pisses me off that they've taken this long to recognize us lowly civvies. I guess losing government contracts will do that to a company.
I'll wait to hear how these new units fare in respects to craftsmanship and reliability.
killswitch1982
01-28-10, 20:52
I Disagree. A mid-length, which is the most efficient and practical choice on the 16 inch carbine, is my preference, and that would present more options and level the playing field if they decided to offer one in the future. There is no down side to offering middy into the line up.
Agree totally.
killswitch1982
01-28-10, 21:06
Any news on the Bren Ten pistol?
I would like to know as well. Looks like Vltor fixed the biggest problem with the SCAR/Mk16 as well. I may actually buy one now if they produce that stock adapter.
The Bren Ten seems to have enough draw to itself that I figured it was worth its own thread instead of dropping these in with the rest. I'm sure there are other and better Bren Ten images out there, but I haven't seen them around.
Personally, I'm waiting to see the MM images, I'll bet he has been playing around with one for months!
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Speed Racer
01-28-10, 21:12
Thank for the great pics.
Is the Combat Officer's a CCO (Officer's frame with Commander upper) configuration pistol?
Thanks,
S.R.
killswitch1982
01-28-10, 21:38
Thanks Sitckman. I'm really looking forward to this weapon. I want the "Vice" model, all stainless and pimp.
Anything on the new Gen-2 folding front sightbase? (VST-1) Availability? Pricing?
SMGLee - do you have any price and/or availability info on their suppressor (or any more info at all on it)?
http://www.ttellc.net/stt104.htm
Day 4 is up. Enjoy! (Better late than never version, pics recovered)
Thanks again for your time in posting these reports Kelly. You picked a neat variety of products to cover, and some that might not be easy to discover otherwise. Good job!
Any more info on the FAL CASV?
Something for every budget and field. Try and get a little slice of the show for everyone
Claymore Muzzle Brake product page is up:
http://store.troyind.com/Claymore_Muzzle_Brake_p/sbra-clm-05bt-00.htm
Hope someone has some T&E video clip of this new Troy Claymore Brake. Any feedback would be great.
very cool, very innovative...
Sierrahotel83
01-29-10, 01:22
Just ordered a 3 pack of FDE Troy Battle Mags:D
killswitch1982
01-29-10, 03:24
SMGLee - do you have any price and/or availability info on their suppressor (or any more info at all on it)?
From what has been said price is tentatively set for the $200-$300 area.
Josh_Denny
01-29-10, 06:09
Travis Haley's MARPAT camo accessories are all custom jobs, man. Sorry. I asked him the same thing in my carbine class and he told me he shipped them off to another company and personally paid to have it all done. I wish I would've asked him who painted them for him and how much it cost him, but I forgot to.
I'd personally love to have the MARPAT accessories, especially the CTR and PMAGs.
Semper Fi,
-Paul
I have not seen the camo'ed Magpul stuff you guys describe so it may very well be painted, but there may be another option. I will have to do some digging to see if the company is still around (at least in the capacity of doing custom stuff) but about 8 years ago there was a company doing a process they called dipping. I saw them at the SEMA show in Vegas and they were marketing it for automotive but they said, "If you can dunk it we can do it." Basically they put the material with whatever pattern they chose on the surface of a water bath and dipped the part to be coated. As the part submerged through the material on the water's surface it wrapped the part and formed to it perfectly and was pretty durable. I would imagine at least as durable as the paint on finished we have. They had a few camo patterns, mostly Mossy Oak, "standard" camo, stuff hunter's would like. They sold a lot of trim pieces already done for your interior. I saw a few complete dashes that they did. Pretty neat stuff.
Josh_Denny
01-29-10, 06:19
I have a feeling it is Lakota Corp (http://www.lakotacorp.com/decota/default.aspx) that applied this Digital Desert (http://twnindustries.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=49&category_id=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=9) film on to Haley's accessories.
iPhone Field Case shall be mine eventually, in the mean time I want one for an iTouch.
That's exactly the process I was describing. Guess I should have finished the thread first :) The stuff I have seen done looks like it was molded in plastic the way it looks and not like it was a surface coating. I never did any wear resistance tests first hand but the parts I saw coated held up well over time but admittedly were not handled like hard use firearm parts, stocks, etc.
I have not seen the camo'ed Magpul stuff you guys describe so it may very well be painted, but there may be another option. I will have to do some digging to see if the company is still around (at least in the capacity of doing custom stuff) but about 8 years ago there was a company doing a process they called dipping. I saw them at the SEMA show in Vegas and they were marketing it for automotive but they said, "If you can dunk it we can do it." Basically they put the material with whatever pattern they chose on the surface of a water bath and dipped the part to be coated. As the part submerged through the material on the water's surface it wrapped the part and formed to it perfectly and was pretty durable. I would imagine at least as durable as the paint on finished we have. They had a few camo patterns, mostly Mossy Oak, "standard" camo, stuff hunter's would like. They sold a lot of trim pieces already done for your interior. I saw a few complete dashes that they did. Pretty neat stuff.
I think that is the way the gun manufacturers camo their products, saw the process on American Rifleman TV once.
Thanks for all the great pics, SMGLee.
I've noticed that there are those blue tags on just about all guns I've seen pictures of, just curious (never having been to SHOT before) as to what they are for.
Thanks for the pictures ! :)
Smg, their AR platform, 556/7.62 is it in house build or contracted out, I have their pamphlet but it doesn't really say anything. Thanks.
For those who are interested the new VLTOR iMOD stock weights 10oz and the ETA is 2-6 weeks.
Sweet, although I was hoping for some real texturing on the front and backstraps
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The new Triangular rail system from PRI...
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New front sight gas block for 7.62x51 caliber weapons, it will come in all available barrel diameters...
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PRI flip up front and rear sights
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Revised for 2010, PRI muzzle brake
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slightly revised PRI extended rail.
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Revised PRI low profile gas block
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New for 2010, Gas block with rail that match the same height as the receiver and handguard rail..
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Cantilever 30mm red dot mount. I always like the none quick release mounts since i never really have a need to remove my optics, the non-QD mounts are just less costly compare to the QD mounts.
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Gas Buster with the updated lever...
I want one! Any word on when they'll be available?
EzGoingKev
01-29-10, 12:33
It looks nice and like it is built like a tank, but it also looks like it is going to be heavy for something that size.
Also, it doesn't look there is enough clearance for someone looking to build a piston rifle using that upper.
EzGoingKev
01-29-10, 14:13
Not trying to stir up any shit, but I did get a kick out of the fact that the company that is suing Magpul is now making plastic back up sights.
They just haven't gotten around to it yet. Probably launch that one right after they sue Lee for taking these photos. :rolleyes:
Not trying to stir up any shit, but I did get a kick out of the fact that the company that is suing Magpul is now making plastic back up sights.
I've wanted one of these things since 1986.
Do Want.
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geminidglocker
01-29-10, 15:29
If they are affordable, then I'de see the merit in reviving the design, but if I could get the new Coonan .357Mag. for the same or less, that would be my choice.:)
All of our 7.62mm guns that have thread barrels are now threaded 3/4 - 24 UNS 2A
The reason for that is 5/8 was just a little to thin and we saw an accuracy loss.
Do you think KAC will produce some of these STTs with a 5/8x24 pitch? From my quick research I found that many AR pattern in .308 use 5/8x24 TPI.
Thanks for the answers!
Spooky
militarymoron
01-29-10, 16:05
Personally, I'm waiting to see the MM images, I'll bet he has been playing around with one for months!
actually, i'm still waiting like everyone else. great pics as always, stick!
Sweet, although I was hoping for some real texturing on the front and backstraps
I'm more concerned about the lack of gripping surface on the slide. Sweaty hands and the thin CZ/Sig210 style slide makes for some fumbling under stress.
Who makes the scope mount with red dot side mount? In the pic it has a Leupold scope in it, about 1/3 of the way down on the first page. Thanks
Any idea if the new throw levers can be retrofit onto existing mounts?
Any idea if the new throw levers can be retrofit onto existing mounts?
it uses t he existing base so in reality it can be retrofitted, but most like lt ARMs would want you to buy a new mount...:)
Remington Military's monolithic rail piston carbine
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The lack of gripping surface on the slide is why I don't care for the CZ75. I have lusted for a BREN 10 since they came out. I was on the list to get one when D&D went out of business. I'll have one of the Veltors when they become available.
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Paint job, water coat immursion job WHATEVER IT IS!!!! Who does it for them? Or is it in house?
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The grip of the 4th gen Glock is the smallest grip surface in the history of Glock
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The enlarged mag release is also reversible.
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Compare the new dual spring recoil spring to the old single spring set up, this new spring will double the life of the recoil spring life in the new 4th Gen Glock
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Slightly revised slide with a new bump near the chamber area for better balance.
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Even he gives the Glock 4th gen pistol a thumbs up.
Moose-Knuckle
01-29-10, 17:43
Looks like Remington MPD has their shit squared away!
A most impressive booth, great pics too thx for sharing them with us...
Moose-Knuckle
01-29-10, 17:54
Once again awesome pics! These are the most detailed pics I have seen of the Gen 4 G17 to date.
Thomas M-4
01-29-10, 18:01
Any idea on the msrp on the rem 700 long action chassis system?
I've wanted one of these things since 1986.
Do Want.
It'll go well with your white sport coat and tan pants. Don't forget the white t-shirt. Oh! And no socks!
Any idea on the msrp on the rem 700 long action chassis system?
I was told 2400-2700 with a 700 barreled action.. so you can probably work back the numbers... figure a chassis will run you about 1500-1800ish.
Not much at Beretta I took pictures of, only thing that grabs me is the ARX160....
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Take down begin with a flick of the safety to the take down position.
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With the stock folded, both hands on the gun, one thumb push in the locking tab on the trigger housing, the other hand push down on the pistol grip to release the trigger housing.
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now, pull the charging handle back to the witness mark on the receiver and pull out the handle into the lock position.
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Now flip the charging handle back into the receiver and align with the carrier group. now you can pull out the bolt carrier group.
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With this move, you can also push the handle to the other side for right hand operation of the charging handle.
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Charging handle on the right side of the receiver.
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Bolt release tab...
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Underside of the handguard
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Pull locking tab to remove the rail cover
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The Beretta EGLM can be install on the rail of the ARX160.
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Tab on the each side of the receiver activate the barrel release. once the barrel is release, pull the barrel straight out of the the receiver. as the barrel exit the receiver, it will stop and get stuck, all you have to do is lift up the floating piston toward the gas block and you are able to pull the barrel out...
lawusmc0844
01-29-10, 18:51
The new grips look much better! I might have to purchase another Glock for myself, except for the backstrap angle, I love my Gen III 19!
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The stock can be extended by pulling back on the locking tab to the receiver
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Trigger housing, the rear plate is also act as the locking tab..
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Rear aperture can be adjusted by rotating the knob.
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iron sight co-Witness with the standard red dot optic.
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TRG42, submitted for the US Army long range sniper rifle program..
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Reminds me of my favorite handgun... The Browning HP... I wonder if it is as simple.
Lee, are they still not planning on selling the ARX here?
Any word on availability of the MSR to civis and approximate cost?
Dustin
Lee, are they still not planning on selling the ARX here?
I too was wondering if there would be a U.S. civilian adaptation available?
Be interesting to see if they sold the ARX here and it came in $3-400.00 lest than the ACR.
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The throat of the hammer forged barrel are a lot cleaner in this cut away sample.
The sidefolder stock is an interesting technical exercise. It'll be revealing to see what a retail price separately could be - and feedback on a users perception of the cheekweld. The hinge looks well rounded, but it appears it might lay right on the jawbone. It's probably insignificant in use all said.
What products Colt chooses to bring to market is no doubt based on their prespective of the market. Opening a "civilian" sales office at least acknowledges they are facing changes. If someone's special heart throb isn't in the lineup, it could be available eventually. Having significant demand that can be measured - such as LE contracts - would certainly accelerate the process. Otherwise, there's no way to justify the risk.
Coming back into the 1911 market is another clue about their perpective on the future. Looks like machine capacity and retaining skilled labor is high on their list.
Thomas M-4
01-29-10, 20:02
I was told 2400-2700 with a 700 barreled action.. so you can probably work back the numbers... figure a chassis will run you about 1500-1800ish.
Thanks SMGLee
Wild pics of the DD CHF barrels ...thanks much
Interesting stuff.
Can't ever see it making it's way into the US civilian market though.
The Beretta guy said "Not anytime soon" when asked if it might be available on the US market. His tone was not what I would call "hopeful".
I thought it was a pretty neat gun. It felt very lightweight, but the plastic felt more hard and brittle than some of the other polymer-based guns. Both of those being very subjective observations.
The oddest thing about it was releasing the bolt your trigger finger by pressing down inside the trigger guard.
That sucks, I was looking for something a little different as a range toy. It seems to be a very interesting design.
The amount of jacket material left on the feed ramps and the edges of the ramps would concern me.
From what I heard, Beretta doesn't plan on doing a 16 inch semi-auto version for the civilian market and supposedly LE/Military agency pricing is 2500 each.
Very nice pics Lee! I am actually more impressed with the piston AR offering than with the ACR and wondering what the weight will be compared to a LMT MRP piston or LWRC M6A3 carbine? I also like the extra real estate on the handguard that extends beneath the gas block on the AR upper. Noticed the little Magpul logo on the ACR stock....:D
dookie1481
01-29-10, 22:09
I like the foreend on the 870, does anyone know if that is going to be a standard offering?
Jay
dookie1481
01-29-10, 22:19
Is that a T-1 Micro attached to an M203 Quadrant Sight?
Jay
Outlander Systems
01-29-10, 22:20
Is that...
...A MIDDY!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!
:eek:
wholly shit... enter Remington, eh?
good work on all the pics, SMG... been very cool.
Thomas M-4
01-29-10, 23:48
I have read about some hammer forged processes that form the chamber and throat at the same time as the rifling. Assuming that DD is using that process interesting!
FPembleton
01-30-10, 00:16
The oddest thing about it was releasing the bolt your
trigger finger by pressing down inside the trigger guard.
I agree. I wasn't comfortable with the ergonomics of that design, and I thought operating the charging handle instead was more comfortable.
Still it seems interesting. Although, when the rep disassembled the gun it looked like the carrier ran on bare polymer slots, which were quite thin, instead of some sort of embedded metal rails.
From what has been said price is tentatively set for the $200-$300 area.
The guy in their booth would only tell me it would be a "low priced" suppressor, but I never thought it'd be that low. Thanks killswitch.
Not trying to stir up any shit, but I did get a kick out of the fact that the company that is suing Magpul is now making plastic back up sights.
Sued.
ARMS said a settlement was reached.
I think they won against troy.
Sort of a trench warfare approach to business.
Is that a carbine length bilevel rail with a cutout for the FSB?
FromMyColdDeadHand
01-30-10, 01:35
Really interesting and thanks for the close-up detail pics.
Just a few observations and questions:
1. The MSASS looks like a JP LRP-07. I know that Remingtom and DPMS are owned by Cerebus, but what is the realtionship with JP? It seems JP and DPMS have worked together on stuff before, but I thought it was just a MN thing about them being close to each other.
2.What is the relationship between the MSR and the RACS? The RACS can take a 700 action or it can take the new change barrel/caliber system and that makes it an MSR?
3. With the MSR, do all the calibers take the same length action and magazines? So it is a 338L rifle that can be made to shoot .308, kind of.
4. Interesting that the TACMOD stock is on that M24E, kind of another JP tie in. Does JP make the Tac-mod, or does Tac-mod make the JP MOR-07?
That RACS is just totally wicked looking. How wrong would it be to buy a $1800 chasis and put a $500 R700 barreled action in it?
*** SMG- Any pics of teh AI X-chassis? Any notes on camparos between the X and RACS? ***
They aren't really going to stamp Rail Gun on the side of that 1911 are they? Here's hoping their overall customer service improves at least on the usg sales/service side. We're using LMT's in our training program as a result of Colt seemingly not giving a fcuk about support.
If you look at the sights more than the gun you'll never notice;)
It's about time Colt got serious about the 1911 again. They've been sitting on their laurels for far too long and their QC has been suffering for years.
However it kind of pisses me off that they've taken this long to recognize us lowly civvies. I guess losing government contracts will do that to a company.
I'll wait to hear how these new units fare in respects to craftsmanship and reliability.
I don't think that Colt has been worried about a Gov 1911 contract for about 60 years or so. I always hear all of this "don't care about civies" shit regarding Colt.
All of this about a company that still produces single action revolvers, over 25 1911 configurations, and will research their archives for the history of you pistol back to the 1800s? I believe they care about us lowly civilians just a little bit.
They don't offer a full lineup like Mimber, but offer many classic 1911s and modified versions like the Special Combat & Gold Cup which should fill most folks 1911 needs. They did listen when they brought back the S70, which I believe is here to stay.
Colt may not have all of the options under the rainbow, but ask most 1911 smiths what they would like you to send to them or what 1911 gurus what the best OOTB gun is, and you will probably come back to Colt.
This is all from a person that carries a "luck of the draw QC" Springfield 1911, and doesn't own a single Colt.
ARMS sucks, and I hate them more than all the Chinese knock-off companies put together.
But in their defense, they have been doing that to rear sight apertures for almost a decade, way before the CSAT aperture was on-line. I was issued an ARMS #40 is 2002 that had it, they were purchased locally off-the-shelf too.
ARMS sucks, and I hate them more than all the Chinese knock-off companies put together.
But in their defense, they have been doing that to rear sight apertures for almost a decade, way before the CSAT aperture was on-line. I was issued an ARMS #40 is 2002 that had it, they were purchased locally off-the-shelf too.
I stand corrected. Edited to reflect the new info.
Do you think KAC will produce some of these STTs with a 5/8x24 pitch? From my quick research I found that many AR pattern in .308 use 5/8x24 TPI.
Thanks for the answers!
Spooky
Nope sorry, want the Super Tap, you need our gun...
Is that a T-1 Micro attached to an M203 Quadrant Sight?
Jay
Yes it is.
Nope sorry, want the Super Tap, you need our gun...
KevinB,
Thanks for all the info. I'm glad KAC has you representing them.
Too bad about the Super Tap. The other option is to cut and re-thread other maker's barrels.
Spooky
Got to admit, the plastic BUIS doo look interesting. They look like they'd offer a lower profile than the Magpul MBUS (which I have).
Curious about the folding front sight/gas block....looks like it might be pinned in the one pic, but that could just as easily be a screw or a pin to my eyes
The barrels for the ACR and the new piston upper are not interchangeable are they? I assume not, but it would be an awesome idea
I really want one of these.
Any Idea on when we can start ordering them ?
Will the "Stickman" edition be available to us mere mortals ? :p
Moose-Knuckle
01-30-10, 10:30
Is that...
...A MIDDY!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!
:eek:
Roger that, it's the DDM4V3...the next AR I will acquire.
http://www.danieldefense.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=207
Thanks for the pics SMGLEE, DD are the one's I have been anticipating the most!
Are they going offer for sale uppers only for the "Remington Military's monolithic rail piston" or complete rifles only? Priceing?
Outlander Systems
01-30-10, 11:12
...the next AR I will acquire.
Roger that, good buddy. And I as well.
:D
Thank you DD. I was holding off buy the XV in the hopes that a mid-length might show up...
Ned Christiansen
01-30-10, 11:40
You are without doubt He-Who-Has-The-Most-Fun-At-SHOT. We need to get acquainted next year!
Interesting pics of the cut away barrels!
What kind of a hand guard is on the last rifle? The one that looks like it melted?
Chen,
Any pics of the Aimpoint mounts that are on DDs price list for 2010? Not the Micro mount, but the ones for standard Aimpoints? They have one listed with a lever and one without.
Thanks!
What is up with them? Their web site has disappeared and you can't even find them on a Google search for A.R.M.S., inc.
+1?
Are they going to only sell the new style of mounts? If so, starting when? I need to get some A.R.M.S. rings for "clone" builds and need to know how long I have to get them.
Dustin
ForTehNguyen
01-30-10, 18:16
I really like that one picture with the barrel progression and cutaway
Is that...
...A MIDDY!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!
:eek:
yes sir, DD jumped on the middy kool aid :D
Interesting pics of the cut away barrels!
What kind of a hand guard is on the last rifle? The one that looks like it melted?
more modular type free float, where you can add rails on the sections you want, instead of lugging around rails all the time. I believe it should prove to be lighter.
variablebinary
01-30-10, 18:30
Nice middy. Do DD rails take KAC panels?
Really interesting and thanks for the close-up detail pics.
Just a few observations and questions:
1. The MSASS looks like a JP LRP-07. I know that Remingtom and DPMS are owned by Cerebus, but what is the realtionship with JP? It seems JP and DPMS have worked together on stuff before, but I thought it was just a MN thing about them being close to each other.
2.What is the relationship between the MSR and the RACS? The RACS can take a 700 action or it can take the new change barrel/caliber system and that makes it an MSR?
3. With the MSR, do all the calibers take the same length action and magazines? So it is a 338L rifle that can be made to shoot .308, kind of.
4. Interesting that the TACMOD stock is on that M24E, kind of another JP tie in. Does JP make the Tac-mod, or does Tac-mod make the JP MOR-07?
That RACS is just totally wicked looking. How wrong would it be to buy a $1800 chasis and put a $500 R700 barreled action in it?
*** SMG- Any pics of teh AI X-chassis? Any notes on camparos between the X and RACS? ***
I don't have a lot of your answers, but here is the link to my AI thread...
http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=45933
SMGLee,
17th pic from the top.
Pretty interesting looking ambi-charging handle.
Any intel. if these will be available any time soon and the cost.
Thanks
I don't think you're going to have any trouble finding owners getting rid of old ARMS mounts.
Search their name in yahoo search, it comes up, I think they forgot to pay their dues to google.
I held the RACS a couple months ago. I would NEVER, EVER carry a scoped rifle that heavy unless it was a .50 caliber. It is a redonkulous system for a scout application. A big miss, I believe.
Much of the other stuff looks good, though.
When I was a narcotics detective I drove a Camaro with Corvette LT1 350 engine, our boat was not a cigarette and our airplane was a Cessena 172.
I don't wear socks with my boat shoes and I have a pair of white trousers and blue t shirt and taupe jacket ready for the Bren 10.
Who makes the grenade launcher? Any details on it?
Thomas M-4
01-30-10, 23:24
I held the RACS a couple months ago. I would NEVER, EVER carry a scoped rifle that heavy unless it was a .50 caliber. It is a redonkulous system for a scout application. A big miss, I believe.
Much of the other stuff looks good, though.
What was the weight on the RACS?
so are they making Buell parts?
What gun is the rail in pictures #6 through #10 for?
L85/SA80 rail, they got the brit contract.
Nice truck, nice bike and nice girls.:D
TO get back on point... What FH/ Comp is that on this rifle?
Very difficult to take picture with the rifle on a black background wall. plus the lighting isn't the best for camera work...but never the less, Magpul always sport a very cool display.
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On Remington's Military Products Division website, the posted weights for the MSR are:
- 13 lbs with 22" fluted barrel and loaded 5-rd magazine
- 17 lbs with 22" fluted barrel, scope, bipod, loaded 5-rd magazine, and AAC Titan suppressor
The M40A5 is 16.5 lbs, but uses a non-fluted heavy barrel at 24"; 25" overall with suppressor adaptor. If what I was told is true and the Marine Corps has selected this chassis, the 0317s are going to be humping a heavy ****ing rifle. I'm not sure what type of scope base the MSR comes with, but that would have to be swapped out for a 30 MOA base, too (although that likely would not affect weight at all, or perhaps just negligibly). Also, whatever the difference in weight is between the optic which Remington used for their specs and the S&B 3-12X that is actually used, as well as night vision accessories or that other bulky-ass nightvision-only optic (can't remember the name of that heavy bitch).
The MSR has that long metal forearm with rails all over it. Shit is entirely unnecessary. Does Remington think that scout snipers will throw lights, fore-grips, and other fancy BS on a sniper rifle??? I can understand a PEQ/2 or PAQ/4, but the spotter will have those on his M4 and the shooter often times has his own M4 as well. Just stupid.
"Designed by operators, for operators," my ass. More like "Designed by gunsmithing nerds with input from a chairborne LtCol in a sweetheart deal, for operators." Or perhaps, instead of "...for operators," they mean "...for civilians that are in love with cool rails." Remington designed a crew-served 7.62x51 sniper rifle. First ever.
ETA: http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/MSR/msr.htm#/intro
Put in more perspective, the old M40A1 weighed 14.5 lbs. Weights need to be kept closer to that. Because of the focus on urban warfare in Iraq from '03 - '09, manufacturers of all sorts of military gear started to forget about how important weight is in a fighter's equipment. Because of this, the guys in Afghan will pay the price.
justin_247
01-31-10, 04:58
How are you supposed to attach a suppressor on the 10.5" version of the ACR barrel/piston assembly? It looks like the gas block gets in the way.
Very interesting, though! Did they mention whether or not the Remington variant of the ACR, or at least the barrel assemblies, will be available for civilians?
justin_247
01-31-10, 05:05
Pictures of the ambi-bolt release, please? They have the ambi-mag release and ambi-safety selector on their webpage already, but for some reason are holding off on the bolt release. :(
Great pics!
Anyone know what the purpose of the velcro is on the 870?
Army Chief
01-31-10, 08:06
Are they going offer for sale uppers only for the "Remington Military's monolithic rail piston" or complete rifles only?
I too am curious about this. I've seen nothing mentioned about commercial availability. What is the target market for this weapon?
AC
FPembleton
01-31-10, 08:30
I think the HK rep said DD was making the barrels for the US MR models, and not the handguard. However, there was so much information to remember at SHOT that I may have just mixed things up.
The Dumb Gun Collector
01-31-10, 09:34
I suspect the bitching actually did help. That, and the fact that this is the first time HK (along with the HK45, which was more plug and play as far as manufacturing) has had a US manufacturer.
Perhaps someone, who actually spoke German, who they actually respected, called them up and said, "HEY don't be such lazy asses. I know the easy thing to do is just send over the CAD program from the Euro MR556, but damn! Get an intern to move the pin back to where it is on the 416. Nobody is buying the "German Law" BS.":D
Also, there will be no shortage of mounts for this gun. The 416 is already in use by just about every well-know spec-ops or counter-terror group--not to mention several nations' militaries. I have a 416 upper on my M16 and it has the Diopter sights and a Larue 416 mount for my Aimpoint T-1.
Nice truck, nice bike and nice girls.:D
TO get back on point... What FH/ Comp is that on this rifle?
I believe its Ruger SR-556 FH/ Comp
Lucky Strike
01-31-10, 14:37
Crap...I was hoping the MS3 would be released sooner. I'm going to be taking my first carbine class this summer and wanted to get it with plenty of time to familiarize myself with it before the class. I've got a VTAC but really like the idea of going from single to two point so quickly
I guess I could just get an MS2 now but I hate the idea of getting something when you know an improved version is going to be released a couple months later.
Pictures of the ambi-bolt release, please? They have the ambi-mag release and ambi-safety selector on their webpage already, but for some reason are holding off on the bolt release. :(
It's there on the main page; top row, third from right.
http://troyind.com/
SMG,
Was there any other amplifying info about said system coming from SHOT? Availability? Cost? Barrel lengths? Sorry for all the questions but I can't seem to find any info about this system. Any info is appreciated, thanks!!!
Great pics!
Anyone know what the purpose of the velcro is on the 870?
it is used as a lightweight improvised side saddle, constructed with velcro, nylon, and elastic.
The rep that I spoke with for about 20 minutes told me that the piston uppers were going to be a conversion unit only. The Remington ACR was going to be available to civlians, but it would be the version with the polymer lower and not the machined aluminum (or whatever material) the so-called military version would have.
He also said that it had only one gas setting and it was supposed to be reliable suppressed, un-suppressed and with .223 and 5.56 ammo. According to him the Remington ACR stll had a few bugs to be worked out in that department.
The US import laws saved us from them importing the MR223 lowers and barrels, which are no bueno for import. If you've looked at the import hassles AK's have gone through, this development was no surprise. Since HK is basically required by law to make the barrels and receivers here, why replicate the odd pin location?
Lets start with the German barrel. For the barrel to be importable for sale to US citizens it would have attached to a "sporting rifle" with no evil features. Unfortunately, you can't import an MR223 receiver, or even a HK416 receiver for those purposes, period. The HK416 and MR223 both accept AR mags (non sporting). Since the Germans would have to completely redesign the MR223 receiver (like a Saiga's) to not accept regular capacity mags (pmags don't count), HK was left with the choice of making the barrels and receivers here, or simply not make the rifles at all.
Did all this drive the price up? Probably.
ghostdog00
02-01-10, 09:29
TangoDown part for the Mk48
me
http://www.azbattlerifles.com/images/FDEARC.jpg
Not to keep on this topic but can you be more specific? I went to the TangoDown website and couldn't find the part. Thanks.
militarymoron
02-01-10, 09:37
Not to keep on this topic but can you be more specific? I went to the TangoDown website and couldn't find the part. Thanks.
it's a rail panel designed for the mk46/48, and isn't offered commercially at this time. it just happens to fit on the CASV.
wow i didn't even know this existed....
TacticalIntervention
02-01-10, 09:52
I have wanted one of these since the early 1980s as well. Nice to see it get another chance. Thanks for putting this up.
Reminds me of my favorite handgun... The Browning HP... I wonder if it is as simple.
Both the original Bren10 and the Fortis are 75s. Meaning, they use the design of the original CZ-75 designed & introduced in 1975 but never internationally patented.
Like the 1911, there are MANY 75s made around the globe, including the USA, Americas, Europe and Asia. Examples include:
Colt Z40
Springfield Armory P9
Armalite AR24
CZ75
Desert Eagle baby Eagle/Jerich 941 from IMI or IWI
Swiss Sphinx
Tanfoglio and witness
Norinco N75
Imbel (not sure of model #; not imported to USA)
etc
Some features of the old Browning Hi Power are incorporated into 75s. Barrel lockup is very similar.
Razorhunter
02-01-10, 14:36
Perhaps someone, who actually spoke German, who they actually respected, called them up and said, "HEY don't be such lazy asses. I know the easy thing to do is just send over the CAD program from the Euro MR556, but damn! Get an intern to move the pin back to where it is on the 416. Nobody is buying the "German Law" BS.":D
Why couldn't they have just sent over the "416 CAD program" ??? It is already in existence, and has been in existence, long since before the MR223....
In regards to lobbying for the cause, I'll admit I sent my fair share of umpteen billion emails to Hk, requesting they not screw this project up with a misplaced rear takedown pin, despite the fact that I doubt I'll afford one anytime soon, if ever.
Still though, I couldn't bare to see yet another sweet weapon get screwed up by poor design changes.
got an email from troy saying march was the aprox availablity of the ambi controls
soldiersystems
02-01-10, 16:38
Is there a set set screw where I circled in red and if so, what is its purpose?
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Kybyq3n1q3w/S2IAj2BSNSI/AAAAAAAAB74/DLI99sL_WNY/s800/hk.jpg
http://soldiersystems.net/2010/01/20/new-from-hk/
Country DeVil
02-01-10, 16:52
Anyone know a release date for this thing?
KingsideRook
02-01-10, 19:17
I like the Otterbox Commuter over any case that uses soft polymer as the outer layer, at least, any that I have seen. The whole reason is that the slick hard plastic of the Commuter's outside case that goes over the rubber lets my iPhone slide more easily out of my jeans pocket when I'm seated. I don't use any screen cover, never seen one that didn't tug up at the edges after a few weeks, no matter how nice it was to begin with.
That said, I like the Magpul philosophy of "Seal it" for hard use of the phone - I still want to see one in person and see if it'll work for me.
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Click link for full size image (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4310786398_7370571f2f_o.jpg)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4310786398_5962c2e83f.jpg
bondmid003
02-02-10, 01:03
Curse HK for having the G36K on display...what a tease :(
ghostdog00
02-02-10, 07:01
Got it. Thanks.
Hey guys, especially HK guys, what are the differences in the uppers of the 416 & MR556/223 (the one we will be able to buy). Are there any differences in the piston system?
Well, I'm not a moron, but I am a guy. Walking around the floor, I did pause to eye the eye candy. ATI, Americansniper.org, the MAgpul foursome, the Dillon babe at Arsenal, Sabre. McMilllian had a very tasteful hottie as well. She clothing of course had ladies (picked up info for my wife) :D
What was interesting was the hardnoses at ASP had what looked like a hooker and Perrazzi had a very well heeled lady who was quite conversant with their line (no way I can afford one though).
Regarding the OTP regarding cattails, I have one on my NF 1-4 and it make power changes very fast, not as long as in the photos so it doesn't get caught on stuff. $70 is reasonable compared to the $1200 scope and $200 LaRue mount.
threefeathers
02-02-10, 11:52
Got to admit I liked it. ;)
The guy in their booth would only tell me it would be a "low priced" suppressor, but I never thought it'd be that low. Thanks killswitch.
It is all stamped sheet metal parts with only a few machined components....keeping the price low is driving point.
Is that a carbine length bilevel rail with a cutout for the FSB?
Yes it is!
The new grips look much better! I might have to purchase another Glock for myself, except for the backstrap angle, I love my Gen III 19!
The Gen 4 Glock grip with out any strap insert are the smallest of any Glock ever produced.
Who makes the scope mount with red dot side mount? In the pic it has a Leupold scope in it, about 1/3 of the way down on the first page. Thanks
Warne RAMP mount...
http://www.warnetactical.com/R.A.M.P.html
Thanks for all the great pics, SMGLee.
I've noticed that there are those blue tags on just about all guns I've seen pictures of, just curious (never having been to SHOT before) as to what they are for.
Blue tags are placed by SHOT safety officials to indicate the weapon has been inspected and meet the SHOT display gun safety requirements. Mostly it is just to make sure there is no firing pin that will protrude from the bolt face.
Smg, their AR platform, 556/7.62 is it in house build or contracted out, I have their pamphlet but it doesn't really say anything. Thanks.
I am not sure, they will not say but from the look of it, they might be sourcing the parts much like their 1911s.
Thanks for the replies guys. I can't wait to see the finished version and hopefully be able to purchase one for myself later.
What kind of accuracy are you getting out of these compared to the M21 and Mk11/M110? I am thinking that the bottom rail will change POI when using the bipod unless it is very sturdy.
Dustin
I have a very good friend in the SOCOM community that did the testing and eval for the SCAR, he mentioned to me once that the standard SCAR-H was getting 8MOA at 800yrds and he seen the SSR shooting 5MOA at 1000. There are talks of building a SCAR-H in DMR role with a added stamped steel rail plate in front of the receiver to give more rail real estate for NVD.
the SCAR is a serious contender in the precision rifle role, it has out performed(reliability), out priced(cheaper out of the door cost to Uncle Sam) and out shoot the M21, M110 and Mk11s.
Chen,
Ive heard mention of some new 5.56 muzzle brakes that are coming out but i cant seem to find any info on them.
Did you take any pictures of those?
Take a look at the brake on the ACR....that is their new 556 muzzle brake.
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030797.jpg
Very interesting is the FN SCAR seem to sporting several different suppressor options at SHOT....a change from previous years.
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030794.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030795.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030779.jpg
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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030780.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030784.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030785.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030777.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030776.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030772.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030773.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030773.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030770.jpg
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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030786.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030766.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030769.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030788.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030793.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030791.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030771.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030768.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030761.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030764.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030762.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030756.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030760.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss10/huge/P1030757.jpg
You are without doubt He-Who-Has-The-Most-Fun-At-SHOT. We need to get acquainted next year!
It is a must for next year...looking forward to meeting you...:)
Great pics! That SPR is one sexy biatche!
that is the new M6A2 configuration, but later this year, the M6A2 will also get a M6A3 mid length gas piston system but without the adjustable gas regulator, thus making a simpler and lighter..just the way I like it. there will be a mid length M6A2 in my purchase future with the twist flute barrel and the new rail.
that is the new M6A2 configuration, but later this year, the M6A2 will also get a M6A3 mid length gas piston system but without the adjustable gas regulator, thus making a simpler and lighter..just the way I like it. there will be a mid length M6A2 in my purchase future with the twist flute barrel and the new rail.
Thank you for your time with the update! I will be adding one when they are available. I have a A3 in MRE that has proven to be a fantastic weapon! Did they give you an approximate timeframe on the SPR? Thanks again for all your work, your pics are outstanding! I am surprised that this thread hasn't received more attention.... IMHO LWRCI had one of the best looking set of rifles at SHOT....
It is all stamped sheet metal parts with only a few machined components....keeping the price low is driving point.
Do you know when they plan to release the suppressors? The rep I talked to also said he wasn't sure if they would be sold exclusively through the same company that is selling their firearms or not, any info on this as well?
I was set on ordering a suppressor from another maker before SHOT but I'm curious if I should wait to order one of these as well, or two. :D
I have a very good friend in the SOCOM community that did the testing and eval for the SCAR, he mentioned to me once that the standard SCAR-H was getting 8MOA at 800yrds and he seen the SSR shooting 5MOA at 1000. There are talks of building a SCAR-H in DMR role with a added stamped steel rail plate in front of the receiver to give more rail real estate for NVD.
the SCAR is a serious contender in the precision rifle role, it has out performed(reliability), out priced(cheaper out of the door cost to Uncle Sam) and out shoot the M21, M110 and Mk11s.
Thats the kind of news that I like to hear. Thanks again Lee.
Any other news coming from the troops carrying the SCARS?
I wonder how they are liking them compared to the M4's and such. When will they make a decision on fielding them or not?
Glad I've got my order in for the .308 MRP! It looks awesome! I wonder what the key differences will be between the UK MoD rifle and the USA commercial release...
Spooky
"Yes, there are differences. *The UK version has an 18" stainless barrel that is black oxide coated and has a case / accessory pack that comes with it - a very large, detailed pack. *The commercial version has a 16" chrome lined chrome moly vanadium barrel. *Comes with front sight, rear sight, *mag and owners manual. *We are offering the commercial version with a 16" stainless upgraded version model but not yet available. *First 308's for commercial market will ship by end of March. *
Answered by the ever so wonderful and beautiful Monica Sipp @ LMT
Glad I've got my order in for the .308 MRP! It looks awesome! I wonder what the key differences will be between the UK MoD rifle and the USA commercial release...
Spooky
"Yes, there are differences. *The UK version has an 18" stainless barrel that is black oxide coated and has a case / accessory pack that comes with it - a very large, detailed pack. *The commercial version has a 16" chrome lined chrome moly vanadium barrel. *Comes with front sight, rear sight, *mag and owners manual. *We are offering the commercial version with a 16" stainless upgraded version model but not yet available. *First 308's for commercial market will ship by end of March. *
Answered by the ever so wonderful and beautiful Monica Sipp @ LMT
Kentucky Cop
02-02-10, 23:46
As always, Magpul did a great job with the design......HOWEVER, I cannot believe they couldn't whip up a kick ass belt clip holder like my OtterBox cover came with. I think I have the Defender model and it came with one of the best hard plastic belt clips. It rides on my visor in the cruiser, my seat caddy, my duty belt, jeans, and rifle bag molle while I am at the range.
Dear Magpul, can you please look at the OtterBox Defender series and see if you can whip up a indestructable plastic belt holder for your case. It only makes sense, oh..., and of course in all the covers to match.
Thanks, :D
Ky Cop
Having used the case now for about 2 weeks, I like it more than I did when I first got it at the SHOT Show. Though I wish the material was a little softer to be more impact absorbent (from a fall -- the case I was using is an all silicone iSkinz) this one feels good. It has the "oily" rubber/plastic feel (feel only -- it is not oily at all) and the phone feels good in the hand.
I have not removed any of the ports in order to make sure no water gets in at all. I just pop the end out at night to charge (I don't use headphones so that one just stays in)...
This is a nice simple case. I have no problems at all with it sliding in and out of my pants pocket. And not being slick hard plastic it stays on my truck seat next to me better than my original speck hard plastic case ever did.
Belt clips are for dweebs. Keep the current design Magpul. :cool:
Any chance LWRC will release those rails for individual sale?
I really have no interest in a piston gun but that rail design is both beautiful and brilliant.
Any chance LWRC will release those rails for individual sale?
I really have no interest in a piston gun but that rail design is both beautiful and brilliant.
Most likely after production ramps up and initial rifle/upper demand has been met.
Grendelizer
02-03-10, 17:07
Uh, regarding the sights, does Matech actually have a Website? Not finding it easily in my first run-through.
John
Someone mentioned the new Gen4 iphone due out this summer.
I was wondering that myself....
nothing a trip to the Dremel doctor couldnt fix.
and for 10$, you get to project it fairly cheap-like.
I just dropped my VZ BB storm for an iphone. And the main reason was the MP case.
yEP Im a sucker. so be it.
Soo, who is going to be the first to stipple one and post pictures of it?
Great photos.
I cannot wait to buy a SCAR this year.
sundance435
02-03-10, 20:02
Any idea as to when these new 1911's will be hitting the market? I'm interested in the Officer's Combat and the parkerized "Rail Gun":rolleyes:
Great photos.
I cannot wait to buy a SCAR this year.
You wont regret it. A very fine rifle.
I don't think that Colt has been worried about a Gov 1911 contract for about 60 years or so. I always hear all of this "don't care about civies" shit regarding Colt.
All of this about a company that still produces single action revolvers, over 25 1911 configurations, and will research their archives for the history of you pistol back to the 1800s? I believe they care about us lowly civilians just a little bit.
They don't offer a full lineup like Mimber, but offer many classic 1911s and modified versions like the Special Combat & Gold Cup which should fill most folks 1911 needs. They did listen when they brought back the S70, which I believe is here to stay.
Colt may not have all of the options under the rainbow, but ask most 1911 smiths what they would like you to send to them or what 1911 gurus what the best OOTB gun is, and you will probably come back to Colt.
This is all from a person that carries a "luck of the draw QC" Springfield 1911, and doesn't own a single Colt.
Very well said (written).
Nice purse, is it european? :p
Its a murse, thank you very much. :D
i have one of those Fusion posters autographed by Brock Lesnar.
K.L. Davis
02-04-10, 09:37
SFC Sammy Davis was there... I consider it an honor to get a chance to talk with him.
Did he steal that shirt?
You would have had to been there for the joke to make sense.
telecustom
02-04-10, 17:47
SFC Sammy Davis was there... I consider it an honor to get a chance to talk with him.
I wasn't able to see Sammy at SHOT, But here the pic of the first time I met him (1981) He has been like my second father ever since. Sammy is on the left.
The hell with Lou, who's the cute blond!
I believe Taran refers to her as "poptart sprinkle" or "poptart"
I just heard this on some shooting podcast.
Ted Nugent was there...was giving out Nugent for President stickers.....never saw him...got the sticker.
The Duck Commander was there with all his boys.
President of the NRA was there.
Mr. Perazzi's son was there.
Dr. Beretta's son was there.
Pinco Palla
02-05-10, 09:45
Great photos.
I cannot wait to buy a SCAR this year.
Me too !
brother can you buy one and mail it out to me please ? :D
PP out
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