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SMGLee
01-22-09, 18:24
FN brought out the highly thought after SCAR 16S, the civilian version of the SCAR Light.

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Had no idea on this set up except for showing off FN's branded mini red dot....:)

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SOCOM's Mk17 SCAR heavy...

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Mk16 SCAR Light

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Patrol or ranch rifle....hate the pistol grip.. IMHO a nice palm grip is more than enough.

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Lower rail for the F2000/FS2000 system.

ST911
01-22-09, 23:43
Egad... A CMore on the SCARs?

SMGLee
01-23-09, 12:40
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KAC buzzsaw....

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The new iPod/iPhone interface ballistic calculator, program written by Robert Silver of Silcener Talk. the program can be downloaded from Apple store.

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The newly revised detent on the M110, the detent are now more solid and less likely to break which result in the suppressor being mounted upside down...it does not effect the suppressor function, but it does help to keep the locking gate on the suppressor from dropping out of battery.

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Trey Knight with the M110.

SMGLee
01-23-09, 13:00
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This is one of the more interesting new item shown at SHOT, the latest KAC BUIS are more compact and less expensive...

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300m is priced at 99.00 and the 600m is priced at 129.00, they should fly out of the KAC like hot cakes.

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KAC's latest quick release mount for the Aimpoint T1 Micro. this mount has two separate SKU, one with the M4 height and one with the HK 416 type height.

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Tension of the lever can be adjusted via a screw on the opposite side.

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Very light weight and very slick in overall design execution.

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All 250 Flat Dark Earth run of the Latest Sr16 were purchased by Gun Gallery in Florida...anyone want a SR16 in FDE can contact Neil at Gun Gallery.

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URX with Build in front sight, push to open locking tab, need to push to open and close.

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micro adjustment knob for elevation, very slick.

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SMGLee
01-23-09, 13:23
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Latest SR16 with mid length URX and the latest receiver upgrade.

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Very cool engraving of KAC logo on LMT SOPMOD stock....

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Still my most favorite flip up front sight.......I really need to plung down the cash and buy one..:)

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Front lever release teh sight tower for deployment.

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Now this is beautiful.

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KnightHawk by Nighthawk custom...this gun is made in limited run packaged along with a KAC SR16....I believe the package price is somewhere in 8000 range.

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SMGLee
01-23-09, 13:29
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Need I say more...KAC PDW.

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6mm is head and shoulder above anything MP7 or P90 can offer in terminal ballistic.

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Dual piston, dual recoil spring set up for this very unique weapon platform.

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Compact size can be easily hidden under a jacket but still be able to present the weapon is a very quick fashion.

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Kevin Boland of KAC military sale with the PDW.

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me, myself and PDW......now make thisw puppy into a 5.56 rifle and send it to US Army for the next gen rifle program.......

SMGLee
01-23-09, 13:43
CMore and a certain FN top exec goes back a long way....just friends supporting friends....but yea, I agree....:)

KevinB
01-23-09, 15:09
Damn that PDW makes me look good - thanks for the pics Chen.

tiger seven
01-23-09, 15:38
Wow! The pics of you guys holding the PDW do a great job of showing just how small that thing really is. The standalone pics don't do it justice in that regard.

It certainly sounds like an impressive little weapon. I hope KAC sells a ton of them. :)

Thanks for the great pics!

Derek

Ridge_Runner_5
01-23-09, 16:31
Cal. 6x35?

WTH is that?

SpartanArms
01-23-09, 17:13
Cal. 6x35?

WTH is that?

IIRC, The 6x35mm round is a proprietary round designed by KAC for the PDW. AFAIK, no other weapon on the market utilizes this round. I would love to own a PDW if KAC would ever sell a civilian S/A model, however I doubt that will ever materialize. Also I have no idea who the hell is actually making ammo for it.:confused: I read a Defense Review article on the PDW that had photos of some custom ammo Hornady had made in 6x35mm, but other than that I've never seen any.

RogerinTPA
01-23-09, 18:36
Outstanding Pics SMGLee. That PWD is SICK! I hope the come out with a 5.56 version.:cool:

SMGLee
01-23-09, 19:57
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SMGLee
01-23-09, 20:08
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I need to dig out my old Don Johnson out fit... and play the Maimi Vice theme in the back ground...

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Trigger feels very good for a double action... and reset are crisp

TOrrock
01-23-09, 20:16
I WILL have a MV Special Edition Fortis, oh yes, I shall. :cool:

JLM
01-23-09, 20:28
Cool Chen, where are they at on the Fortis, did you ask?

I like the CASV shorty, looks like a Noveske Pig underneath there?

SMGLee
01-23-09, 20:43
Cool Chen, where are they at on the Fortis, did you ask?

I like the CASV shorty, looks like a Noveske Pig underneath there?

Yes, it is a piggy under the Shorty CASV

The fortis is supposed to be mid summer.....

militarymoron
01-23-09, 22:03
i can see a potential problem with the Fortis - it's gonna be hard to get just one.
dammit.

ICANHITHIMMAN
01-24-09, 10:20
Were is the M14 stuff?

Littlelebowski
01-24-09, 10:29
Did they have to put that "Special Forces" on there? Since SF has never and will most likely never use said pistol and said pistol has not and will not receive SF's endorsement, I think that's pretty moronic. I still have forgiven Ed Brown for their "Special Forces" pistol.

RogerinTPA
01-24-09, 11:08
Putting SF or Tactical or any trashy term like that on such a fine weapon is blasphemous! A gimmicky term used to attract ignorant wanna be's who wish to be tacticool and sell product. Sadly it works... If they can offer it with a "Blank" slide, I'd buy one.

Subject Change: What's the proposed price in the Fortis?

BSHNT2015
01-24-09, 11:28
Any release date for their Fortis pistol?

joffe
01-24-09, 12:06
Any release date for their Fortis pistol?

Vltor says '6-12 months' just to be sure - they don't want to repeat the mistakes of previous Bren Ten revivers and end up not meeting dates and/or rushing the gun to meet such.



Subject Change: What's the proposed price in the Fortis?

They've said 'mid range 1911' so I'd guess somewhere around Kimber/Springfield 'Loaded'.. 900-1100?


Did they have to put that "Special Forces" on there? Since SF has never and will most likely never use said pistol and said pistol has not and will not receive SF's endorsement, I think that's pretty moronic. I still have forgiven Ed Brown for their "Special Forces" pistol.

It's only because the Bren Ten came in a model called 'Special Forces'.

Anyone interested might want to follow this subforum: http://nordicg3kscommunity.yuku.com/forums/114

irishhitman
01-24-09, 12:59
I WANT THE BUZZSAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Arbiter
01-24-09, 14:22
I would like that that hand stop on the bottom of the PWD on a few of my rifles.

-Arbiter

Kahuna
01-24-09, 18:17
Thanks for the pics Chen.

Appreciate it's a long shot, but I'd get in line fo a civvie PDW. Any word on possible release?

K

mvician
01-24-09, 19:17
Great pics ! Thanks from all of us KAC "junkies"

:cool:

DANGER CLOSE
01-24-09, 20:15
i am liking that forearm hand guard thingy with sling attachment on the pdw.

FromMyColdDeadHand
01-24-09, 22:29
Any word on that flash hider on the PDW that looks almost like mesh or just small slots? I saw one in the Magpul DVD on a 5.56 rifle.

Caeser25
01-25-09, 10:16
smaller, and less expensive buis, sweet. what's the story on the buzzsaw?

KevinB
01-25-09, 10:21
Any word on that flash hider on the PDW that looks almost like mesh or just small slots? I saw one in the Magpul DVD on a 5.56 rifle.

KAC Triple Tap. It is a .gov item only right now, they are frighfully expensive to build, and thus expensive to buy.
Initally was from the SR25 BattleRifle, and designed as a control item, then scaled into 5.56mm as a sacrificial baffle to designed to enhance the life of suppressors.

Its a great setup, but unless we can descrease the cost of manufacture - I don't see a large public market.

Ned Christiansen
01-25-09, 11:17
Nice weedwhacker, and an interesting 1911! Thanks for the great pics, unfortunately I missed KAC in my limited cruising.

Ricardus
01-25-09, 13:28
The Fortis resurrection of the Bren Ten looks great. I wanted one myself but I think it may be too late for obvious reasons unfortunately. And a couple of design decisions made by Vltor are mistakes in my opinion.

I have two observations on the design. The first being the scalloping at the front of the frame probably to lighten it. The back of the frame seems thick enough for the slide stop area. It detracts from the way that particular designs looks originally (CZ 75 clone). I would also think the weight up front is needed for the 10mm!

Another area is the lack of a "beavertail" rear back strap. It is just a stub like someone decided to chop it off without thinkiing of the possibility of the web of the firer's hand being bitten - hammer bite.

All the folks at Vltor needed to do was to look at the EAA clones like the Elite Match which has a substantial frame and a very nice "bervertail" on it. Even the CZ 75B SA and SP-01s now have this design on their cast steel frames. This to me is a step backwards for the Fortis design.

Just my observations and opinions. My intent is not to start an argument.

dewatters
01-25-09, 20:55
Yes, but that is the way they did it with the original Bren X.

Moose-Knuckle
01-25-09, 22:47
Love the buzzsaw...perfect for the undead! :D

joffe
01-26-09, 07:18
Exactly. If they changed the exterior design of it it'd be pointless, people might as well just buy a Witness 10 mm then.

They might do modified versions later on but the first ones to roll out will look like the Bren Ten and that's kinda their whole mission statement.

Iraqgunz
01-27-09, 06:09
Lebowski,

Don't be so hard man. Doesn't everyone deserve to be "special"? :D


Did they have to put that "Special Forces" on there? Since SF has never and will most likely never use said pistol and said pistol has not and will not receive SF's endorsement, I think that's pretty moronic. I still have forgiven Ed Brown for their "Special Forces" pistol.

VA_Dinger
01-28-09, 05:30
Wow, the Fortis looks great.

I am very impressed.

Loner
01-29-09, 10:50
Will we see the T1 mount released commercially?

Interesting QD throw lever mount, will succeeding Aimpoint mounts have these?

Ricardus
01-29-09, 15:09
Exactly. If they changed the exterior design of it it'd be pointless, people might as well just buy a Witness 10 mm then.

Exactly!;)

Witness Elite Match 10mm = $525< Magazine capacity = 15 rounds

Fortis "Bren Ten" = $1000>? Magazine capacity = ?

KevinB
01-29-09, 17:24
Will we see the T1 mount released commercially?

Interesting QD throw lever mount, will succeeding Aimpoint mounts have these?


We are currently working on these -- it is anticipated that within the month a version of these will be available for sale via dealers, with a CompM4 version following.

SMGLee
01-30-09, 01:31
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN1889_1.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN1889_1.jpg)
Sabre Defense build Steyr AUGA3 US edition....

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN1888.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN1888.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN1887.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN1887.jpg)
Bolt held open device associated with the bolt stop in the trigger pack to lift it up via the follower in the magazine to engage the last round bolt held open

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN1890.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN1890.jpg)
Close up of the bolt held open latch

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN1883.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN1883.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN1885.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN1885.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN1886.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN1886.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN1879.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN1879.jpg)
This is not an AUG, but Sabre Defense has come a long way in the industry by securing a contract to make M16 rifle for the US Marine...they are currently working on the first article submission.

MSAR's M16 magazine compatible stock
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN2000.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN2000.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN2002.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN2002.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN2004.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN2004.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN2006.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN2006.jpg)
Comparing ghe standard MSAR with the M16 magazine compatible version.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN1998.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN1998.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN2003.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN2003.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN1997.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN1997.jpg)
The M16 magazine compatible gun does not have a forward assist..

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN2007.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN2007.jpg)
Standard version with forward assist. the stock seems a little pinkish, but that is just my camera work, the actual color are closer to FDE

Moose-Knuckle
01-30-09, 17:35
Real AUGs finally...those are sweet!

Any info on the Sabre Defense USMC M16? Will they be A4's or are we talking a new platform all together? Is it the one pictured?

RogerinTPA
01-30-09, 19:15
Once again, great pics SMGLee. I like the continuous rail on the Saber Defense and the M16 compatible version. That would be the most cost effective, having the ability to use existing mags that you own and that can easily be replaced, for now... :cool:

Razorhunter
01-30-09, 20:48
Nice pics, and most all of the KAC stuff looks great.
However, I was a bit disappointed to see that huge Micro T-1 lever. I think the ejection port side of the T-1 mount looks kick ass, and IF it looked more like that on BOTH sides of the gun, I'd be ALL OVER these mounts. However, that huge lever is outrageous, IMHO. Aside from the cosmetics (which is the main thing for me, as I already know it's got KAC quality and reliability), I would be afraid that huge lever would get caught on my gear on my chest... Maybe, maybe not.
Any chance of getting that lever cut down a bit/modified before they hit the streets :D Would be SO nice!:cool:
Either way, the KAC products are most impressive, and I just wish we could get our hands on more of them... PDW rocks, and would be a FUN little gun, especially suppressed! BTW, did I hear "DOUBLE piston" system?? I'd love to get a look at those inner workings!

welchtactical
01-30-09, 21:03
I've been wanting one of the flip-up front sights from KAC and never could find one. Anyone know where I can get one and approx. price? I want one of the PDWs BAD! Hell, probably take a SR15 too:D!

thedog
02-02-09, 01:59
Great pics!! But I will never own an AUG. Simply because they are AUGly!!

dog

dewatters
02-02-09, 11:25
Any info on the Sabre Defense USMC M16? Will they be A4's or are we talking a new platform all together? Is it the one pictured?

Their contract is for 702 M16A4 Rifles for the USMC and 4,952 M16A3 Rifles for the US Navy. They are to be standard configurations just like those already produced by Colt and FN.

nickdrak
02-02-09, 12:44
Kevin,

Any idea if/when the pinned flip-up front sight/gas-block combo pictured below will be available?

http://i43.tinypic.com/v81uu8.jpg

nickdrak
02-02-09, 13:01
Any word on the pinned version of the VST front sight tower?

joffe
02-02-09, 14:40
Exactly!;)

Witness Elite Match 10mm = $525< Magazine capacity = 15 rounds

Fortis "Bren Ten" = $1000>? Magazine capacity = ?

Fortis will use Witness magazines.

AggiePhil
02-02-09, 21:05
When will the M16 compatible MSAR be available and how much will it be?

KevinB
02-03-09, 07:50
Flip Front sight gas block.
These are not currenty for sale outside the SR16 series of weapons.
Previously Marvin had been able to buy these and pin them on, but when he left us that route was eliminated. Until a KAC employee that is willing and skilled is willing to do this as a after work job again it is not available.
Yes I have a taper reamer, and yes I have done this before, but I want to do more of my own guns before I commit to something like this for sale.

Iraqgunz
02-03-09, 08:07
Kevin,

One little comment/ criticism about the KAC VFG. What's the story with the nipple always breaking off on the insert? I know that part of it is operator headspace but it seems as if they break too easily. I think I have about 6 of them laying around here that are tits up.

K1196A
02-05-09, 08:30
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN1839.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN1839.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN1838.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN1838.jpg)
Need I say more...KAC PDW.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN1832.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN1832.jpg)
6mm is head and shoulder above anything MP7 or P90 can offer in terminal ballistic.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN1833.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN1833.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN1834.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN1834.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN1835.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN1835.jpg)
Dual piston, dual recoil spring set up for this very unique weapon platform.



I like the PDW finger stop -- looks like one I did a few years ago for my own PDW build... I guess i should have patented it..... LOL!

Wonder if they will be selling those?

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9007/dsc031834qpta9.jpg

Stranger45
02-05-09, 09:07
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/websize/DSCN1829.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss09/huge/DSCN1829.jpg)

Kevin,

Off topic if I may, who makes the jacket you have on?

Thanks

KevinB
02-05-09, 09:12
5.11 Tactical Sabre Jacket

Marcus L.
02-05-09, 14:42
Man that PDW looks small and light. Hrmm, I just may have to consider adding bits of my paycheck to my special savings account. ;)

Dave L.
02-07-09, 12:17
Did FN happen to mention when more SCAR's would be in dealers hands?
I'm talking about enough on the market to get the price to be at the MSRP or MAP, and not this 4-8K Gun Broker prices.

Outlander Systems
02-07-09, 13:25
Does anyone have any intel on the VFG? That thing looks mean.

NeverForget
02-08-09, 16:22
Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to have to quit politics and get back into action flicks because of the buzzsaw.

SMGLee
02-09-09, 13:20
Ergo...

snakedoctor
02-10-09, 07:36
Flip Front sight gas block.
These are not currenty for sale outside the SR16 series of weapons.
Previously Marvin had been able to buy these and pin them on, but when he left us that route was eliminated. Until a KAC employee that is willing and skilled is willing to do this as a after work job again it is not available.
Yes I have a taper reamer, and yes I have done this before, but I want to do more of my own guns before I commit to something like this for sale.

Could I send in my upper to have one installed by you instead? I really love that flip up front sight gas block design. Just a thought.

KevinB
02-11-09, 11:02
Not at the present time.

When Marvin left, we lost that capability. However one of our Engineers that lives near me in Orlando has a mill at home, and we have discussed doing projects like that.

Dave L.
02-12-09, 16:59
So...nobody got the skinny on when FN is going to be arming the civilian population with SCAR16's at higher rates?

SMGLee
02-13-09, 13:00
So...nobody got the skinny on when FN is going to be arming the civilian population with SCAR16's at higher rates?

FN is supposedly importing and bring to market 200 guns per month, that is the current scheduled production and delivery rate for 2009. until SCAR is official with SOCOM and production is set up0 here State side.

sgtmajor
02-20-09, 09:26
just another reason ive been telling trey they need a custom shop. :D

LibertyCola
02-20-09, 21:57
Does anyone know the story behind the buzzsaw?

sgtmajor
02-20-09, 22:11
Does anyone know the story behind the buzzsaw?

trey+boredom=insanity have you seen the helmet gun?

LibertyCola
02-20-09, 23:34
trey+boredom=insanity have you seen the helmet gun?

no, do tell.

sgtmajor
02-20-09, 23:49
no, do tell.
http://www.geocities.com/cjames63/AAC1.jpg

LibertyCola
02-20-09, 23:59
http://www.geocities.com/cjames63/AAC1.jpg


How do you shoot it? with your tongue?

sgtmajor
02-21-09, 00:01
How do you shoot it? with your tongue?

that cable that is attached leads to a trigger

Wally
03-26-09, 20:49
Does anyone know if the FN 45 with the Doctor Optic is going to be offered to the public? Thanks, Wally

arbob
04-16-09, 22:39
Does anyone know if the FN 45 with the Doctor Optic is going to be offered to the public? Thanks, Wally



Somebody asked this on ARF and the reply from FN was not at this time.:(

slamb750
04-18-09, 01:58
Anyone have pics of the Glock girl? Was there even one. Thanks

neodecker
04-18-09, 02:35
Jessie Abbate's the only Glock girl for me :D
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8320/dsc5461.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc5461.jpg)

Cold Zero
04-18-09, 02:42
Don't know. But, the Tapco girl was pretty hot and had a long line.

The long line at the Glock booth was for R. Lee Ermey.

Down the aisle from the Glock booth was the GSG booth. Their "GSG Girl" was in Playboy from what I understand and also had a steady line. She was signing GSG posters. They also had 3 guys from Band of Brothers signing their books and posing for photos.

BSHNT2015
04-18-09, 22:22
I met Jessie and got her to sign her picture.:p

woodandsteel
04-18-09, 23:21
Jessie Abbate's the only Glock girl for me :D
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8320/dsc5461.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc5461.jpg)

Way Way Off Topic, but what is that thing on her scope? Kind of looks like a zip-tie.

LOKNLOD
04-18-09, 23:23
Way Way Off Topic, but what is that thing on her scope? Kind of looks like a zip-tie.

It's a lever make adjusting the variable power ring quicker.

woodandsteel
04-18-09, 23:31
It's a lever make adjusting the variable power ring quicker.

Thanks for the quick reply. I assume it is for competition use then?

LOKNLOD
04-18-09, 23:35
Thanks for the quick reply. I assume it is for competition use then?

That's usually where you see them used, but I can definitely see an application for "tactical" purposes, maybe in a lower profile version.


On topic: The Aimpoint gal was the hottest I saw at SHOT :D

VooDoo6Actual
04-19-09, 01:29
Wow,

nice lever

Littlelebowski
04-19-09, 10:14
It's known as a "cat tail."

neodecker
04-19-09, 17:14
I met Jessie and got her to sign her picture.:p
Is she as good looking in person?

ToddG
04-19-09, 17:44
It's not exactly fair to compare Jessie to the girls some companies hire as window dressing to lure morons into their booths at SHOT. She was the 2008 Ladies Steel Challenge champ; USPSA Limited, Limited 10, and Multi-Gun Ladies Champ; as well as the Western 3-Gun Ladies Champ.

LOKNLOD
04-19-09, 18:12
It's not exactly fair to compare Jessie to the girls some companies hire as window dressing to lure morons into their booths at SHOT. She was the 2008 Ladies Steel Challenge champ; USPSA Limited, Limited 10, and Multi-Gun Ladies Champ; as well as the Western 3-Gun Ladies Champ.

When you say it like that.... Those boothbunnies don't stand a chance.

neodecker
04-20-09, 01:26
Thats what Im talking about.

jdp710
04-20-09, 15:08
What compensator is that?

BTW, here's her website http://www.jessieabbate.com/

Jimdo
05-21-09, 20:57
That's what I'm sayin' !

Jimdo
05-21-09, 20:59
Wonder if they are going to be as reliable as the original Austrian made ones?

Zhurdan
05-21-09, 21:21
What compensator is that?

BTW, here's her website http://www.jessieabbate.com/

Ohhhh and she shoots Cowboy Action... I might just be in love!!!

Cold
05-22-09, 00:19
Way Way Off Topic, but what is that thing on her scope? Kind of looks like a zip-tie.

Its called a cat tail. Seen often in 3 gun.

Cold
05-22-09, 00:20
What compensator is that?

BTW, here's her website http://www.jessieabbate.com/

Looks like a Titan comp.

idreamt...
05-22-09, 01:40
Nice gun

larry0071
05-22-09, 08:13
That Jessica is pretty hot, both for her god given looks and for her ability to shoot, an ability that most women (especially hot young ones) do not tend to over indulge in.

Where I lost her was in killing the Zebra. Its a horse, you don't eat a horse unless your starving to death or in Bulgaria...where I have eaten horse. I see that as hunting it... just because you have yet to kill one of those. Hunt game animals, not a damn horse. Fail.

Note:
I was in Bulgaria doing a rare and unusual job and had been there for 3.5 weeks and barely had any meat to eat. As a gift, when we were leaving, the client set up a dinner at a castle. When our team walked into the room there was a table about 50 feet long and 12 or so feet wide with a horse on a silver platter about as big as an F-150 up on that table. Some did not eat it, I ate a bit. The customer was being insulted that we were not extatic over the offering of meat so those of us that did eat it played it up to be greatest thing we had ever had or seen. The others claimed religion prevented them eating the horse.

Robb Jensen
05-22-09, 08:32
Looks like a Titan comp.

That's too big to be a Titan.

I have a stainless SJC Titan on my rifle it's quite different.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/gunpics/3gunrifle006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/gunpics/3gunriflewsights.jpg

thopkins22
05-22-09, 21:38
Its a horse, you don't eat a horse unless your starving to death or in Bulgaria...where I have eaten horse.

In France and Ireland you pay a premium for horse meat. They like it. I'm not big on wild goose meat, but I've shot and cleaned plenty.

neodecker
05-23-09, 01:57
It looks like the Y COMP Muzzle Brake
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1747/yhm258.gif (http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?image=yhm258.gif)
heres a bigger pic of it
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8320/dsc5461.jpg (http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc5461.jpg)

bkb0000
05-23-09, 02:22
whats with the finger on the trig? i'm not comfortable with this.

Charlie in Texas
05-23-09, 02:24
whats with the finger on the trig? i'm not comfortable with this.

She's just showing off that there are no rings on her fingers, and that if I buy enough Glocks, maybe she'll talk to me. :)

DJGLOCK30
05-23-09, 04:52
ABSOLUTE GODDESS!!!

ToddG
05-23-09, 10:39
She's just showing off that there are no rings on her fingers, and that if I buy enough Glocks, maybe she'll talk to me. :)

Negative. Jessie is married, and her husband competes in just about every match she goes to.

Sam
05-23-09, 23:11
I used to shoot IPSC with her dad and her husband along time ago. They went on to win many state matches and I never got any better than C class. :rolleyes:

Jimdo
05-25-09, 17:01
Man, that's a shame...

jwinch2
05-25-09, 20:17
***note to mods, if you feel that this is going to drift this thread too greatly, please feel free to move to a new thread - Apologies in advance.***



Question for the group at large.

What is it about the SCAR platform that has everyone so geeked up? I understand the SOCOM thing but other than that, I am having a difficult time seeing it. I read thread after thread on this and other forums about people being fired up about the SCAR being released to the public, while to me, it just looks and feels like a bulky, plasticy thing. Admittedly I have never had the chance to shoot one but ergonomically, it does not feel anywhere near as good as the AR platform to me. In addition, while it may end up being the "official" SOCOM platform, those guys carry what they want most of the time anyways, so how often actual teams are carrying the SCAR down the road remains to be seen.

As a disclaimer, this is not a FNH hate-fest. I have an FNH SLP shotgun that I absolutely love, and while the m249 sucks, the m240 kicks ass. I have also heard very good things about their bolt action rifles.

So, anyone here who can't wait for the SCAR to be released? If so, mind sharing your reasoning? I'm not hating here, just curious I guess...

Thanks

implexant
05-26-09, 14:32
Jessie Abbate's the only Glock girl for me :D
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8320/dsc5461.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc5461.jpg)
I noticed in this photo that she has some type of device for speeding up the change from 1.1x to 4x on the short-dot. Seen a lot of 3-gunners with these, but have never seen them for sale anywhere. I'd be looking for one that's black and significantly shorter, but does anyone know where these might be sold? I'd be looking for one for a NightForce NXS 1-4x24.

-Chris

Jim from Houston
05-26-09, 18:52
I noticed in this photo that she has some type of device for speeding up the change from 1.1x to 4x on the short-dot. Seen a lot of 3-gunners with these, but have never seen them for sale anywhere. I'd be looking for one that's black and significantly shorter, but does anyone know where these might be sold? I'd be looking for one for a NightForce NXS 1-4x24.

-Chris

That scope lever is called a "cat tail".

Check out the info on this site...

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showforum=194

implexant
05-26-09, 20:20
That scope lever is called a "cat tail".

Check out the info on this site...

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showforum=194
That's exactly what I'm looking for, thanks for the info. Although, those are extremely expensive... :eek:

.45fmjoe
05-29-09, 18:26
It's not exactly fair to compare Jessie to the girls some companies hire as window dressing to lure morons into their booths at SHOT. She was the 2008 Ladies Steel Challenge champ; USPSA Limited, Limited 10, and Multi-Gun Ladies Champ; as well as the Western 3-Gun Ladies Champ.

You're right, she is prettier.

http://www.jessieabbate.com/images/gallery/large/Candids/100_2035.jpg

killswitch1982
05-31-09, 21:56
I'm looking forward to the Fortis. I want a full size two tone and a compact stainless both in 10mm.

torquemada055
06-16-09, 17:20
I dont care what model it is, I just want one for me!!! The wife can have her damn glock.....

The_War_Wagon
06-17-09, 15:08
And after I SOLD all my Black Talon (in 10mm, anyways)! :eek:

I feel like Michael in The Godfather, pt.III - "Every time I try to get out (of 10mm :p), they drag me back in!"

connor9000
06-18-09, 21:30
Yes, it is a piggy under the Shorty CASV
What is that handguard piece attached to the bottom of the CASV on the shorty? I don't think ive seen that accessory before.

Arr6
09-04-09, 00:04
Great pics!

Rogue7a
09-07-09, 09:42
I have been waiting for this pistol since SHOT 2 years ago

st33ve0
11-02-09, 18:40
that cable that is attached leads to a trigger

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e362/st33ve0/1245504541781.jpg

BSHNT2015
01-04-10, 23:49
Where are they at with the 10mm pistol? I checked their website but nothing new.

znztivguy
01-05-10, 17:12
I hope to be there...where the sun shines bright and the gamblers are alight!!!!

87GN
01-10-10, 10:45
The Bren Ten is cool and all, but they have much more exciting stuff to talk about at SHOT this year.

joffe
01-10-10, 11:53
Now what would be more exciting than a decently engineered bren ten?

Alaskapopo
01-11-10, 23:13
I want a Bren 10 just for the nostalgia factor. That was the first pistol as a kid I remember reading about and wanting.
Pat

Stickman
01-13-10, 20:50
Mega Machine Shop has let a few pre-release models slip out of their new MTS-300 (Monolithic Tactical System). Its a true one piece, there are no rails that come off. More pictures will be posted in a bit, I've got an article coming out in Military Times about it.



UPDATED WITH LINK TO MILITARY TIMES


http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2010/01/24/pre-shot-sneak-preview-of-monolithic-tactical-system-mts-300/


http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/WEVO%20II/IMG_4547-1024-Stick.jpg


http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/WEVO%20II/IMG_4516-1024-Stick.jpg

Bantee
01-13-10, 20:55
Stick, it's great to see some new pictures from you! This rail system looks like it could put an end to the "will the rail rotate if I hang a vfg off of it" threads.

rob_s
01-13-10, 21:20
Weight & length?

Stickman
01-13-10, 21:38
Stick, it's great to see some new pictures from you! This rail system looks like it could put an end to the "will the rail rotate if I hang a vfg off of it" threads.



True, I'm more interested in flex testing personally.

Stickman
01-13-10, 21:39
Weight & length?

Three lengths planned, possibly a 10" as well. No idea on weights. The bathroom scale tells me I'm not fat, but not much else.

rob_s
01-13-10, 21:41
The bathroom scale tells me I'm not fat, but not much else.

In light of the ongoing thread on fatbodies and training, that made me laugh. Literally out loud. Thank you.
:D

Robb Jensen
01-13-10, 21:43
Badass Stick and as usual awesome pics. :D

recon
01-13-10, 22:50
Sir you are well respected thru out the gun board web! Everyone knows your work! As usual it is fantastic! Thanks!

Stickman
01-13-10, 23:04
Thanks guys.

SeriousStudent
01-13-10, 23:12
That would make a very interesting SBR, with a Noveske 12.5" barrel and a Switchblock.

Thanks very much for the photos, Stickman! :)

hossb7
01-14-10, 01:01
Very cool pics, I look forward to seeing it next week.

Lee Indy
01-14-10, 06:14
Nice. Any Idea on MSRP

BSHNT2015
01-14-10, 09:19
very nice, I'll be checking out the article.

Frank Castle
01-14-10, 09:29
Are the barrels a proprietary design along the lines of the MRP or have they devised a way to allow the use of std barrel assemblies?

Frank Castle
01-14-10, 11:30
Nevermind. Found the answer on Mega's Website. Proprietary Barrel Nut BUT Std Barrels. This could be very promising. I also like the fact that they went with 7075 Vs 6061- I don't think strength or flexing will be an issue. Hopefully the barrel nut will be sufficiently designed/engineered and user friendly. Looking forward to more photos and details from SHOT.

Stickman
01-14-10, 12:46
Another quick shot....


http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/WEVO%20II/IMG_4563-1024-Stick.jpg

Stickman
01-14-10, 12:46
Standard barrels with a unique barrel nut, and each comes with its own tool for installation.

SHIVAN
01-14-10, 15:30
Standard barrels with a unique barrel nut, and each comes with its own tool for installation.

Any pics of the tool? I presume it is a little longer than rail length, since I do not see any cutouts for tool access near the barrel nut?

Stickman
01-14-10, 20:52
Shivan- Tool and barrel nut shown below.


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4274902787_2816de99cf_o.jpg

I keep forgetting Flickr account rules.... please click the above link for the full size image.


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4274902787_166e417eb9.jpg

SHIVAN
01-14-10, 21:35
Very nice, very nice. :D

threefeathers
01-14-10, 21:42
I'll post the Compak16 with snap on can
and the new Takedown rifle in 338 Lapua also with snap on can.

Stickman
01-14-10, 22:55
Very nice, very nice. :D



I'm always a fan of not having to lineup the teeth on a barrel nut.

Stickman
01-14-10, 22:57
New page new picture.


Click for full size image (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2729/4275647958_43b35668b2_o.jpg)

I keep forgetting Flickr account rules.... please click the above link for the full size image.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2729/4275647958_d2d657f90b.jpg

Impact
01-15-10, 00:59
very cool....how about that TActical Tailor shemagh ? :)

Stickman
01-15-10, 01:02
very cool....how about that TActical Tailor shemagh ? :)

Good eye!

Impact
01-15-10, 01:04
heheh..will they start offering them ? they are in your neck of the woods right ? :D

Frank Castle
01-15-10, 09:25
Without actually seeing the product, it appears from the pictures that the tool could not fit over even the lowest profile gas blocks and would therefore limit the user to barrel assemblies with an exposed gasblock or FSB? This would also necessitate removal of the same gasblock or FSB before one could remove the barrel. For these reasons, the MRP and VLTOR designs better meet my needs, but I applaud their innovative thinking and continued development of the AR platform.

Armati
01-15-10, 09:28
That's cool and all...

But, I have yet to see a rail system in military service that will not need to be replace at some point. If your stick only goes from range bag to range mat you should be ok.

Fast roping, moving thru buildings, CQB, and things banging around in trucks can raise hell with rails. Not to mention the Mongo operator who thinks more is more when touring things down on the rail.

Not a flame, just an observation.

Magsz
01-15-10, 09:35
Stick,

Any chance you can take a picture of the rail profile? I would love to see it from the front to get an idea of how wide/tall it is.

tirod
01-15-10, 10:06
Stop me if I'm overthinking this - With the announcement of the M4A1 barrel as issue now, and seeing a picitinny mounted M203 -

Are we seeing the end of the barrel mounted versions? No barrel cuts (?) means something besides better heat resistance in a Colt test cell.

Mounting the M203 on a rail would imply a solid attachment.

Stretching further, would that also imply a future COTS requirement for a bottom rail? Barrel cuts were, even tho most rifles and carbines didn't get the launcher.

I don't see the 40mm going away, therefore some accomodations have to be made - and we all will have to live with them to some degree.

kbi
01-15-10, 13:53
That upper looks slick. Great pic's as always stickman.














Now if I could just find a job to afford such a nice upper :(

NSR500
01-15-10, 14:37
Have they mentioned pricing on this yet? Ballpark at least?

C-Fish
01-15-10, 17:42
Here is more info from Mega's site...

Monolithic Tactical System Quad Rail (http://www.megamachineshop.com/armscatalog/MTS-QUAD/loader.html)

There is also this (http://www.megamachineshop.com/armscatalog/MTS-SINGLE/loader.html) version, which looks to be designed for the gamers.

BWilson
01-15-10, 20:52
Due to a last minute cancellation of our meeting room contract and other
actions by the Venetian, NSSF and show organizers, Wilson Combat was forced to move our product display/meeting room scheduled for Jan 20th and 21st from 9am - 4pm to Harrah's Las Vegas, 2nd Floor Parlor "D". We would like to apologize in advance for any inconvenience to you, our valued customer.

Hope to see you there.

Linus
01-15-10, 21:26
Pretty interesting, a definite alternative to LMT's or Vltor's design Monolithic rail uppers.

militarymoron
01-15-10, 21:51
great pics as usual, stick!
can you install a low profile gas block inside the rail, since you can't install the barrel with the gas block already attached?
it's nice to have a rifle-length rail with mid or carbine gas system inside. i'm assuming that if you do, you'll have to drill some holes in the handguard for set screw or pin access.

Stickman
01-16-10, 00:56
great pics as usual, stick!
can you install a low profile gas block inside the rail, since you can't install the barrel with the gas block already attached?
it's nice to have a rifle-length rail with mid or carbine gas system inside. i'm assuming that if you do, you'll have to drill some holes in the handguard for set screw or pin access.



Yes, the underneath of the rail is cutout for that.

chg380
01-16-10, 17:22
Great work Stickman.

Stickman
01-16-10, 21:46
Nothing but a teaser.... but more to come.


http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20V/868W9164-A-1024-Stick.jpg

Ak44
01-16-10, 21:47
I'm pretty excited to see what they are gonna offer this year...Hey Stick are you gonna be at Shot Show?

bradb55
01-16-10, 21:48
More Sir. Please !

BSHNT2015
01-16-10, 22:01
Well I guess I'll see you there.

Buck
01-16-10, 22:37
That was not very nice... Ill be sure to stop by...

B

orionz06
01-16-10, 22:58
I hear they have an iPhone case...?

Titleist
01-16-10, 23:42
I hear they have an iPhone case...?

Next time I'm doing urban prone in their carbine class and Chris yells "TXT 'EM!" I'll be good to go.

orionz06
01-16-10, 23:44
have you seen the KAC mount for the iPhone?

Stickman
01-17-10, 00:22
have you seen the KAC mount for the iPhone?



Yes, I have one, check the KAC thread, I just posted a picture.

vinesr6
01-17-10, 12:47
How much for them catalogs...must have one!

Stickman
01-17-10, 18:02
Midlength with an 18" barrel.


http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/WEVO%20II/IMG_4539-1024-Stick.jpg

Stickman
01-17-10, 21:04
Much larger catalogs than the previous years....


http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20V/868W9480-A-1024-Stick.jpg

Ak44
01-17-10, 21:19
I see a boat paddle and a rebreather regulator sweet...

SeriousStudent
01-17-10, 21:32
I see a boat paddle and a rebreather regulator sweet...

Indeed, from his days in the Corps:

http://www.magpul.com/gallery/artwork.html

LOKNLOD
01-17-10, 21:46
Not sure what all it will contain, but here's hoping to Midlength MOE's, and a purpose built forward sling mount for the MS2.

Ak44
01-17-10, 22:15
I'm hoping for the rubber moe pistol grip this year...

jp0319
01-17-10, 22:17
maybe one of these years I wont be deployed and can go to a show. I want a catalog also, love the logo on the front.

glockeyed
01-18-10, 08:35
the graphic designer in me loves the [R] instead of :cool:

JSGlock34
01-18-10, 10:16
MagPul 2010 catalog is up! (new website too...)

You have to register in order to download the catalog .pdfs. Looks like a logical progression of their product lineup - MOE handguards in multiple lengths, a forward attachment point for the MagPul sling, more PMAG varieties (including a 40 rounder), the ACR furniture (no prices on those yet), and yes, an iPhone case.

http://www.magpul.com/catalogsignup.html

macman37
01-18-10, 11:16
the graphic designer in me loves the [R] instead of :cool:

The graphic designer in me wishes we could do away with and and all together and just have blanket disclaimers in the back of the book somewhere. ;)

Looking forward to finding out what's IN that catalog! Looks perfect bound, must have a lot of stuff in it... :D

Microwvbleturtle
01-18-10, 13:16
maybe one of these years I wont be deployed and can go to a show. I want a catalog also, love the logo on the front.

Tell me about it. Deployed last year and missed it. I had tickets this year to spend a whole week in Vegas with a buddy. Had to cancel my tickets on Thursday when they finally told me I was going TDY to Campbell for three weeks starting tomorrow.

Constant disappointment.

bones
01-18-10, 15:19
Very Stick ---keep us posted :)

phoenixtx
01-18-10, 15:30
I like the PDW finger stop -- looks like one I did a few years ago for my own PDW build... I guess i should have patented it..... LOL!

Wonder if they will be selling those?

The KAC handstop isn't new...

http://www.knightarmco.com/shop2/index.php?productID=308

poak
01-18-10, 15:31
Here's a pic of the iPhone Field Case:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/poak-tgo/iphonefieldcase.jpg

CplHicks
01-18-10, 16:44
Wish i could get my hands on a printed version. Sucks being in the UK.

macman37
01-18-10, 17:07
D/L'd the catalog... Very nice. Both the product and the design of the book itself. :D

Dirknar
01-18-10, 18:05
does anyone have pics of the Gen2 MBius?

Edited: I was finally able to veiw magpuls website. It wasnt working for a while.

I really am glad I just bought a pair of Mbus sights about a week and a half ago and now find out they have GEN 2 out..haha.. oh well, I like what they've done with the front sight.

RAM Engineer
01-18-10, 18:35
The KAC handstop isn't new...

http://www.knightarmco.com/shop2/index.php?productID=308

It was when he wrote that post A YEAR AGO. Note the date of the thread title...It says "2009" (NINE).

Now I realize we are getting 2010 stuff posted in here, but please be mindful of the dates of the posts when you are reading and/or replying.

sgtmajor
01-18-10, 18:43
It was when he wrote that post A YEAR AGO. Note the date of the thread title...It says "2009" (NINE).

Now I realize we are getting 2010 stuff posted in here, but please be mindful of the dates of the posts when you are reading and/or replying.

you beat me too it.

SeriousStudent
01-18-10, 19:50
Middy MOE handguards in the catalog!

WOOT!!! :D

FromMyColdDeadHand
01-18-10, 20:43
does anyone have pics of the Gen2 MBius?

Edited: I was finally able to veiw magpuls website. It wasnt working for a while.

I really am glad I just bought a pair of Mbus sights about a week and a half ago and now find out they have GEN 2 out..haha.. oh well, I like what they've done with the front sight.

Bought sights and a MS2 sling.

the_fallguy
01-19-10, 05:30
I'm totally psyched about the new MOE gear! I'm already making a list and wondering impatiently when the new stuff will be released.

Oh, and thanks, Stick, for the upcoming photos of the new Magpul goodies!

nozzle13
01-19-10, 10:17
I think they are AUGsome. I think I might have to get one! Seems like it would be a lot less hassle than going the SBR route for the same size weapon. As long as I don't have to buy new magazines. Just have to retrain some muscle memory for mag swaps.

I haven't held a real AUG yet, but I have held the other brand. They are so stable free hand it's like using a 6 foot bipod while standing, and I like that.

nozzle13
01-19-10, 10:22
I'm wanting the battle rifle! Any idea if the Scar Heavy will be introduced to the public anytime soon?

nozzle13
01-19-10, 10:28
Dang-it where are the pictures of the booth bunnies! Some one there needs to start a picture thread for those of us not privileged enough to go to SHOT.

Let's see some pictures so we can all experience SHOT in it's entirety.

Lumpy196
01-19-10, 11:01
Dang-it where are the pictures of the booth bunnies! Some one there needs to start a picture thread for those of us not privileged enough to go to SHOT.

Let's see some pictures so we can all experience SHOT in it's entirety.



I'm sure you'll find whole threads devoted to them at TOS.

joffe
01-19-10, 11:10
Why are you bumping up threads from last year while this year's SHOT Show is ongoing? To make everyone believe SMGLee posted photos from this year? :o

AggiePhil
01-19-10, 11:40
If the only real change to the MBUS is a size reduction, I'm not too worried. I had no complaints about that. I am stoked about the iPhone case and 40 round PMAGs though! :D

ForTehNguyen
01-19-10, 12:25
If the only real change to the MBUS is a size reduction, I'm not too worried. I had no complaints about that. I am stoked about the iPhone case and 40 round PMAGs though! :D

front sight has a spring lock for the sight post like regular AR sights, something about the rear aperture too. Not worth upgrading over tho.

AggiePhil
01-19-10, 12:30
Yeah, it actually says NO aperture window sight option, so I guess that's something they decided to do away with. Glad mine has it. :)

RetreatHell
01-19-10, 13:22
The main benefit of the reduced size of the newest model of MBUS is that they can now fit underneath magnified optics, which the original MBUS could not do (in most cases I'm aware of, including my NF 2.4-10X24).

Semper Fi,

-Paul

nozzle13
01-19-10, 13:36
Sorry didn't look at the date.

C45P312
01-19-10, 15:35
Will we be able to request a catalog for those not fortunate enough to make it?

scottryan
01-19-10, 16:11
The main benefit of the reduced size of the newest model of MBUS is that they can now fit underneath magnified optics, which the original MBUS could not do (in most cases I'm aware of, including my NF 2.4-10X24).

Semper Fi,

-Paul


I knew these were too big before they even came out and they can't compete against Troy.

AggiePhil
01-19-10, 16:17
Will we be able to request a catalog for those not fortunate enough to make it?

You can download it off their website right now. :confused:

cmecha
01-19-10, 16:32
i agree. booth bunnies

wow first post

RetreatHell
01-19-10, 16:58
I knew these were too big before they even came out and they can't compete against Troy.

Yeah, I went from Troy rear BUIS, to MBUS, to KAC.... I'm now back to Troy. They are hands down the best folding BUIS out there IMHO. I really liked my KAC BUIS, both types, but I couldn't stand not having both apertures available! The smaller 600m peep sight is too slow on target at closer ranges, and the larger aperture 300m sight is hard as hell to BZO without the plastic peep insert. So I'm back to Troys and happy as can be!

However, I will say that the MBUS is the best BUIS out there right now for the money, and the people buying them most likely don't have $1,000-$2,000 glass mounted on their guns anyways, so it fills plenty of shooters' roles out there I think. Especially KISS carbines.

Semper Fi,

-Paul

rugbymike
01-19-10, 17:32
Stickman you sir are a tease. I'm sure in the next few days I'll see plenty of pics and videos on youtube. I noticed a digi camo CTR and what look like textured XTM rail covers. I do believe I also say a digi camo PMAG in another picture. I'm interested to see if magpul makes mags for different platforms like the M14 or M1A. And of course prospective replacements for the SAW are always exciting.

C45P312
01-19-10, 17:55
You can download it off their website right now. :confused:

I want the actual catalog to add to my bookcase. lol

Sounds cheesy I know, but I just added a bookcase to my man room and would like to try and fill it up. Already got the Kyle Lamb book on order

TOrrock
01-19-10, 17:56
The second this thread starts down the Babe of the Day path, it is getting locked and trashed.

FR0GMAN
01-19-10, 20:18
Yeah, it actually says NO aperture window sight option, so I guess that's something they decided to do away with. Glad mine has it. :)

Key word, option. The apertures are still there. You just have the ability to fold them both down, forward, out of the way.

TANGO2072
01-19-10, 20:35
DAM an iPhone case from MP....

I might dump the upgrade to the DROID now......

Drummer
01-19-10, 20:55
so...the two big questions are weight and cost?:D Oh, and when can I have one?

Shotdown
01-19-10, 21:01
I asked a few questions at Shot today. The Magpul Iphone case and handgun DVD will be out in February. Also, the Bushmaster ACR will be out in March (MSRP $2100).

SeriousStudent
01-19-10, 21:02
DAM an iPhone case from MP....

I might dump the upgrade to the DROID now......

Hehe, I know. Complete Magpul whore that I am, I'll order one in black.

SeriousStudent
01-19-10, 21:03
I asked a few questions at Shot today. The Magpul Iphone case and handgun DVD will be out in February. Also, the Bushmaster ACR will be out in March (MSRP $2100).

Thanks you kindly for the information - much appreciated. Did they give any info regrading a release date for the MOE Middy handguards? I'd love to order two sets of those.

Littlelebowski
01-19-10, 21:18
This Magpul Ronin thing is boggling my mind.

magpulronin.com

clickclack
01-19-10, 21:27
lol magpul just cant help themselves.

Pale Horse
01-19-10, 21:32
Bottom line ....... Magpul has an amazing amount of talent working in Boulder.

TANGO2072
01-19-10, 21:45
OK really guys ( MP )...

Mid / Rifle length handguards. COME ON.

I had finally settled on a LaRue for my AR-10. errrrrrr

bradb55
01-19-10, 21:52
Ronin looks awesome.

Those guys must have a ball at work with the crazy shit they come up with.

I like the "Pink Fluffy bunny of Death" buggy

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs006.snc1/2823_1153041585569_1213549243_30428557_4920761_n.jpg

bradb55
01-19-10, 21:53
OK really guys ( MP )...

Mid / Rifle length handguards. COME ON.

I had finally settled on a LaRue for my AR-10. errrrrrr
Sounds like a good time to start another project.;)

SeriousStudent
01-19-10, 22:06
OK really guys ( MP )...

Mid / Rifle length handguards. COME ON.

I had finally settled on a LaRue for my AR-10. errrrrrr

The middy and rifle length MOE handguards are in the new catalog.

David Thomas
01-19-10, 22:30
This Magpul Ronin thing is boggling my mind.

magpulronin.com

I love streetfighter style bikes.

vietboy1st
01-19-10, 23:02
i don't know a lot of about magpul but like their stuff. Mostly made by strong plastic lol instead of metal.

tirod
01-19-10, 23:17
I believe those photos of SHOT 2010 yet to be posted might answer the question. It is rumored, but the first thing is to release an actual working versionin 5.56.

Country DeVil
01-19-10, 23:18
what is this pink fluffy bunny of death you speak of?

ForTehNguyen
01-19-10, 23:24
I asked a few questions at Shot today. The Magpul Iphone case and handgun DVD will be out in February. Also, the Bushmaster ACR will be out in March (MSRP $2100).

this is a different price from what was posted on Bushmasters website. $2100 is the dealer pricing so more for the street price

parishioner
01-20-10, 01:02
This Magpul Ronin thing is boggling my mind.

magpulronin.com

I think I am going to start investing in Magpul Industries.......

KellyTTE
01-20-10, 01:43
Link to day one of the TTE 'SHOT SHOW 2010 TOP TEN' day one:

http://www.ttellc.net/stt101.htm

Some cool stuff that caught my eye. Enjoy!

travistheone
01-20-10, 02:03
That .308 is super hot.

snappy
01-20-10, 02:24
Thank you Kelly! :cool:

nickdrak
01-20-10, 02:49
Good stuff, Thanks!

Spoon
01-20-10, 02:51
This Magpul Ronin thing is boggling my mind.

magpulronin.comThat bike is sick! I'm glad to see Magpul guys are motorcycle enthusiasts. My 3 loves, guns, girls, and sport bikes.:D

Savior 6
01-20-10, 03:19
Thanks KellyTTE. That's just the shot I've been waiting for of the LMT 308. Much appreciated.

Ak44
01-20-10, 03:38
I just saw their Unimog thing when i was leaving the AAC Party...the thing is a beast ahaha. My cab driver thought Magpul was some Off Road Company. :cool:

DMR
01-20-10, 07:48
Kelly,

You caught one of or shotguns in the bottom of the Ergo grip photo

Moose-Knuckle
01-20-10, 08:18
Thanks! It's nice for us lowly serfs to finally start seeing some of the goods from SHOT '10. ;)

PPGMD
01-20-10, 08:36
Anyone got close up pictures of this carbine from the Magpul Booth:

It's picture 13 from this post:
http://www.itstactical.com/2010/01/20/shot-show-2010-best-of-day-1/

I'm interested in the light mount.

orionz06
01-20-10, 09:04
check their catalog, there is tons of stuff in it that I have yet to see pics of...

Reseremb
01-20-10, 09:30
Magpul's 2010 catalog, page 7

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2469/afgvariante.jpg

AFG Gen.2? New piece for making it in and AFG-Pod?

cav_scout_tj
01-20-10, 10:18
How wide is that MMS? Like compared to a LaRue or such, or the LMT MRP. The Vltor is a lot wider than the MRP, how does this one compare? Maybe a shot from the front.

woodandsteel
01-20-10, 10:56
Anybody have a chance yet to visit the Vltor booth at SHOT?

They promised to have the new Fortis/Bren Ten there.
http://vltor.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/the-eleventh-hour/

Moose-Knuckle
01-20-10, 11:03
Anyone have pics of the Magpul Unimog yet...I hear it's making the rounds in Vegas this week?

http://www.couchoffroad.com/

bubba04
01-20-10, 11:04
That .308 is super hot.

And I have been really wanting a 308 battle rifle......I wonder what it will run to get one. I hope it has a 18" barrel.

Spooky130
01-20-10, 12:17
And I have been really wanting a 308 battle rifle......I wonder what it will run to get one. I hope it has a 18" barrel.

I think the initial offering is 16" and it is advertised on LMT's site for $2500.

bubba04
01-20-10, 12:20
I think the initial offering is 16" and it is advertised on LMT's site for $2500.

I saw that, I thought the one at shot looked like it had a longer barrel then 16 though :(.

SmokeJumper
01-20-10, 12:26
Awesome preview-Thanks

Spooky130
01-20-10, 15:25
I saw that, I thought the one at shot looked like it had a longer barrel then 16 though :(.

Isn't that the beauty of the whole system? As long as barrels are available they are easy to swap around... The key word "available"!

Good to see the left side with ambi-controls.

Hopefully we'll get the real details on barrel twist as well - I've seen several different twists quoted....

Spooky