Lee Reloader and Privi

[csun_00]

I was trying to remove some primers from my stash of Privi 5.56 and it appears like I have warped and probably broken the guide bolt. Is this an issue with the Privi? Or was this operator error?

[markm]

PRIV primers definitely deform when you pop them out. I can't feel a difference on my reloader, but they do bend when you remove them.

[csun_00]

Should I longer try to reload the Privi or will the guide bolt continue to be a problem because of the reloader I choose.

[markm]

I'm not sure. I'm not familiar with your set up. But I'd guess that your Lee should be able to handle the brass.

[MarshallDodge]

Could it be that you accidentally got a berdan primed case in the mix? That will do a number on things in a real hurry.

[csun_00]

I am new to this how does one distinguish a berdan case?

[MarshallDodge]

The easiest way is to take a flashlight and look down into the case through the mouth at the flash hole. If it has two holes then it is berdan, one hole is boxer. If you have a berdan case the decapping pin will hit the area between the two holes and put stress on the pin.

[csun_00]

Makes perfect sense I will check them and get back to you all. Thanks for the info.

[rat31465]

I have not ever tried to load any Privi, nor have I even shot any...but my first question to you is....
Are these crimped in primers?
If they are that would explain the bent decapping pins/rod.

Look at them carefully.

I know that these are boxer primed...at least according to information found at Midway USA.

[MarshallDodge]

I have not ever tried to load any Privi, nor have I even shot any...but my first question to you is....
Are these crimped in primers?
If they are that would explain the bent decapping pins/rod.

I doubt that would be the issue. I deprime crimped military primers quite a bit with Dillon and RCBS dies and have no problems. They don't feel any different than non-crimped primers.

[rat31465]

I doubt that would be the issue. I deprime crimped military primers quite a bit with Dillon and RCBS dies and have no problems. They don't feel any different than non-crimped primers.

I to have decapped Military casings without swaging the crimps out first.....mostly without problems.
Like you I have been using higher quality reloading equipment. (Mostly Redding)...which is what I am giving this credit to.

However, the few times I have ever broken decapping pins were when depriming crimped in primers on Military casings.

According to the Privi Partizan website posted below they produce a Mil-Spec M-193 which would indicate the use of a crimped primer pocket.

An easy thing for a person new to reloading Military brass to miss.

Knowing this I wouldn't be to quick to rule out this as a possibility for the problem listed.

http://www.prvipartizan.com/

[jmart]

Just curious, why did you try to remove the primers?

ETA: Nevermind. When I first read this, it sounded like you were disassembling live rounds and trying to remove live primers.

[markm]

I too have decapped Military casings without swaging the crimps out first.....mostly without problems.

How in the hell would you swage the crimp before you removed the primer? :confused:

I've decapped probably 20 thousand Military cases, and I've never broken any component.

[rat31465]

How in the hell would you swage the crimp before you removed the primer? :confused:
I've decapped probably 20 thousand Military cases, and I've never broken any component.



Ooops...I stand corrected Markm....Bad choice of words on my part.

I bought 3000 once fired Military casings several years ago for a Prarie dog hunt and ended up breaking two decapping pins using a RCBS Universal Decapping Die. This on the first 200 cases.
I ended up using a Pin Punch and a Plastic base block to punch out the primers before swaging the primer pockets.

You have me beat by about 17,000 or so if you have 20,000 under your belt.

[jasonb]

I just processed 300 mixed LC and PPU cases last night and there is definately a difference in the crimp or the brass alloy between the 2. I mangled 2 decapping pins with the prvi also. On 2 cases, the pin peirced the primer.

After the primer is out, it is nice brass. About 5gr heavier then the LC I was loading.