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LegalAlien
01-29-09, 14:39
I was going to post this under the Obama thread, but did not want it to get tucked away and hidden - Mods, feel free to move it there if you disagree with me on the importance of this.

http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2009/01/military-to-pledge-oath-to-obama-not.html


Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Conservative News and Reporting
"News for the Rest of Us"
Michele Chang

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is extremely frustrated with orders that the White House is contemplating. According to sources at the Pentagon, including all branches of the armed forces, the Obama Administration may break with a centuries-old tradition.

A spokesman for General James Cartwright, the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, states that the Obama Administration wants to have soldiers and officers pledge a loyalty oath directly to the office of the President, and no longer to the Constitution.

"The oath to the Constitution is as old as the document itself." the spokesman said, "At no time in American history, not even in the Civil War, did the oath change or the subject of the oath differ. It has always been to the Constitution."

The back-and-forth between the White House and the Defense Department was expected as President George W. Bush left office. President Obama has already signed orders to close Guantanamo and to pull combat troops from Iraq. But, this, say many at the Defense Department, goes to far.

"Technically, we can't talk about it before it becomes official policy." the spokesman continued. "However, the Defense Department, including the Secretary, will not take this laying down. Expect a fight from the bureaucracy and the brass."

Sources at the White House had a different point of view. In a circular distributed by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, the rationale for the change was made more clear.

"The President feels that the military has been too indoctrinated by the old harbingers of hate: nationalism, racism, and classism. By removing an oath to the American society, the soldiers are less likely to commit atrocities like those at Abu Ghraib."

"We expect a lot of flak over this," the classified memo continues. "But those that would be most against it are those looking either for attention or control."

The time frame for the changes are unknown. However, it is more likely that the changes will be made around the July 4th holiday, in order to dampen any potential backlash. The difference in the oath will actually only be slight. The main differences will be the new phrasing. It is expected that the oath to the Constitution will be entirely phased out within two years.



emphasis mine.

Retired/ex/active military members feel free to state your feelings about this.

How do you eat an elephant?
One small bite at a time

How do you destroy a Constitutional Republic?
One 'slight change' at a time

Differences in wording might be 'only slight'
Differences in meaning and context are HUGE!!!
Do you swear to protect your country, it's Supreme Laws, your fellow citizens, or do you swear to protect "THE ONE"???

Am I out of line???

mike240
01-29-09, 14:43
If this is true I can say HOLY SHIT. This is how dictatorships start.....loyalty to one man in lieu of loyalty to the country. My God....

Business_Casual
01-29-09, 14:44
The tin foil is flying like, erm, chaff, today.

M_P

dbrowne1
01-29-09, 14:47
I swore an oath to the U.S. Constitution and the Constitution of Virginia when I became a lawyer. The moment somebody tells me to swear an oath to one person in one office, I'll turn in my bar card. I hope the response from the military is the same.

RSS1911
01-29-09, 14:51
Uh huh. This is the second unsubstantiated executive order rumor attributed solely to a blog that I've read about today. The other one claimed that firearms would be taken away from people over the age of 60.






I swore an oath to the U.S. Constitution and the Constitution of Virginia when I became a lawyer. The moment somebody tells me to swear an oath to one person in one office, I'll turn in my bar card. I hope the response from the military is the same.

Likewise.

kal
01-29-09, 14:53
Hmmmm.....let's say this "change" becomes fact, among other head turning policies that may emerge from this Obamination of an Administration......What the hell is stopping the military from launching a full scale assault on the White House?

JSandi
01-29-09, 14:54
http://www.iisg.nl/exhibitions/affiche/met/e11-933.jpg

thopkins22
01-29-09, 14:56
Hmmmm.....let's say this "change" becomes fact, among other head turning policies that may emerge from this Obamination of an Administration......What the hell is stopping the military from launching a full scale assault on the White House?

I imagine the constitution will stop them.

Back to reality folks. This is NOT happening. Hell, the last tag on that blog is SATIRE.

LegalAlien
01-29-09, 14:57
Before we all go crazy, I might have been a little to hasty with this.

I missed a tag at the bottom of the origin page - indicates satire

Might be a hoax, but well orchestrated

My apologies if I jumped to early conclusions based on unsubstantiated info

Jay Cunningham
01-29-09, 14:58
If there is any truth to this I will unlock it at a later date.