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Mark71
01-30-09, 06:18
Here is a good article written by John Coleman, the founder of the Weather Channel on the Global Warming hysteria.....


The Amazing Story Behind the Global Warming Scam
By John Coleman

The key players are now all in place in Washington and in state governments across America to officially label carbon dioxide as a pollutant and enact laws that tax we citizens for our carbon footprints.

Only two details stand in the way, the faltering economic times and a dramatic turn toward a colder climate. The last two bitter winters have led tthe public to be skeptical that any runaway global warning. There is now awareness that there may be reason to question whether CO2 is a pollutant and a significant greenhouse gas.

How did we ever get to this point where bad science is driving big government? And how will we ever stop it?

The story begins with an Oceanographer named Roger Revelle. He served with the Navy in World War II. After the war he became the Director of the Scripps Oceanographic Institute in La Jolla in San Diego, California. Revelle saw the opportunity to obtain major funding from the Navy for doing measurements and research on the ocean around the Pacific Atolls where the US military was conducting atomic bomb tests. He greatly expanded the Institute's areas of interest and among others hired Hans Suess, a noted Chemist from the University of Chicago, who was very interested in the traces of carbon in the environment from the burning of fossil fuels. Revelle tagged on to Suess studies and co-authored a paper with him in 1957. The paper raises the possibility that the carbon dioxide might be creating a greenhouse effect and causing atmospheric warming. It seems to be a plea for funding for more studies. Funding, frankly, is where Revelle's mind was most of the time.

Next Revelle hired a Geochemist named David Keeling to devise a way to measure the atmospheric content of Carbon dioxide. In 1960 Keeling published his first paper showing the increase in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and linking the increase to the burning of fossil fuels.

These two research papers became the bedrock of the science of global warming, even though they offered no proof that carbon dioxide was in fact a greenhouse gas. In addition they failed to explain how this trace gas, only a tiny fraction of the atmosphere, could have any significant impact on temperatures.

Now let me take you back to the1950s when this was going on. Our cities were entrapped in a pall of pollution from the crude internal combustion engines that powered cars and trucks back then and from the uncontrolled emissions from power plants and factories. Cars and factories and power plants were filling the air with all sorts of pollutants. There was a valid and serious concern about the health consequences of this pollution and a strong environmental movement was developing to demand action. Government accepted this challenge and new environmental standards were set. Scientists and engineers came to the rescue. New reformulated fuels were developed for cars, as were new high tech, computer controlled engines and catalytic converters. By the mid seventies cars were no longer big time polluters, emitting only some carbon dioxide and water vapor from their tail pipes. Likewise, new fuel processing and smoke stack scrubbers were added to industrial and power plants and their emissions were greatly reduced, as well.

But an environmental movement had been established and its funding and very existence depended on having a continuing crisis issue. So the research papers from Scripps came at just the right moment. And, with them came the birth of an issue; man-made global warming from the carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels.

Revelle and Keeling used this new alarmism to keep their funding growing. Other researchers with environmental motivations and a hunger for funding saw this developing and climbed aboard as well. The research grants began to flow and alarming hypothesis began to show up everywhere.

The Keeling curve showed a steady rise in CO2 in atmosphere during the period since oil and coal were discovered and used by man. As of today, carbon dioxide has increased from 215 to 385 parts per million. But, despite the increases, it is still only a trace gas in the atmosphere. While the increase is real, the percentage of the atmosphere that is CO2 remains tiny, about 41 hundredths of one percent.

Several hypothesis emerged in the 70s and 80s about how this tiny atmospheric component of CO2 might cause a significant warming. But they remained unproven. Years have passed and the scientists kept reaching out for evidence of the warming and proof of their theories. And, the money and environmental claims kept on building up.

Back in the 1960s, this global warming research came to the attention of a Canadian born United Nation's bureaucrat named Maurice Strong. He was looking for issues he could use to fulfill his dream of one-world government. Strong organized a World Earth Day event in Stockholm, Sweden in 1970. From this he developed a committee of scientists, environmentalists and political operatives from the UN to continue a series of meeting.

Strong developed the concept that the UN could demand payments from the advanced nations for the climatic damage from their burning of fossil fuels to benefit the underdeveloped nations, a sort of CO2 tax that would be the funding for his one-world government. But, he needed more scientific evidence to support his primary thesis. So Strong championed the establishment of the United Nation's
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. This was not a pure climate study scientific organization, as we have been led to believe. It was an organization of one-world government UN bureaucrats, environmental activists and environmentalist scientists who craved the UN funding so they could produce the science they needed to stop the burning of fossil fuels. Over the last 25 years they have been very effective. Hundreds of scientific papers, four major international meetings and reams of news stories about climatic Armageddon later, the UN IPCC has made its points to the satisfaction of most and even shared a Nobel Peace Prize with Al Gore.

At the same time, that Maurice Strong was busy at the UN, things were getting a bit out of hand for the man who is now called the grandfather of global warming, Roger Revelle. He had been very politically active in the late 1950's as he worked to have the University of California locate a San Diego campus adjacent to Scripps Institute in La Jolla. He won that major war, but lost an all important battle afterward when he was passed over in the selection of the first Chancellor of the new campus.

He left Scripps finally in 1963 and moved to Harvard University to establish a Center for Population Studies. It was there that Revelle inspired one of his students to become a major global warming activist. This student would say later, "It felt like such a privilege to be able to hear about the readouts from some of those measurements in a group of no more than a dozen undergraduates. Here was this teacher presenting something not years old but fresh out of the lab, with profound implications for our future!" The student described him as "a wonderful, visionary professor" who was "one of the first people in the academic community to sound the alarm on global warming," That student was Al Gore. He thought of Dr. Revelle as his mentor and referred to him frequently, relaying his experiences as a student in his book Earth in the Balance, published in 1992.

So there it is, Roger Revelle was indeed the grandfather of global warming. His work had laid the foundation for the UN IPCC, provided the anti-fossil fuel ammunition to the environmental movement and sent Al Gore on his road to his books, his move, his Nobel Peace Prize and a hundred million dollars from the carbon credits business.

What happened next is amazing. The global warming frenzy was becoming the cause celeb of the media. After all the media is mostly liberal, loves Al Gore, loves to warn us of impending disasters and tell us "the sky is falling, the sky is falling". The politicians and the environmentalist loved it, too.

But the tide was turning with Roger Revelle. He was forced out at Harvard at 65 and returned to California and a semi retirement position at UCSD. There he had time to rethink Carbon Dioxide and the greenhouse effect. The man who had inspired Al Gore and given the UN the basic research it needed to launch its Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was having second thoughts. In 1988 he wrote two cautionary letters to members of Congress. He wrote, "My own personal belief is that we should wait another 10 or 20 years to really be convinced that the greenhouse effect is going to be important for human beings, in both positive and negative ways." He added, "…we should be careful not to arouse too much alarm until the rate and amount of warming becomes clearer."

And in 1991 Revelle teamed up with Chauncey Starr, founding director of the Electric Power Research Institute and Fred Singer, the first director of the U.S. Weather Satellite Service, to write an article for Cosmos magazine. They urged more research and begged scientists and governments not to move too fast to curb greenhouse CO2 emissions because the true impact of carbon dioxide was not at all certain and curbing the use of fossil fuels could have a huge negative impact on the economy and jobs and our standard of living. I have discussed this collaboration with Dr. Singer. He assures me that Revelle was considerably more certain than he was at the time that carbon dioxide was not a problem.

Did Roger Revelle attend the Summer enclave at the Bohemian Grove in Northern California in the Summer of 1990 while working on that article? Did he deliver a lakeside speech there to the assembled movers and shakers from Washington and Wall Street in which he apologized for sending the UN IPCC and Al Gore onto this wild goose chase about global warming? Did he say that the key scientific conjecture of his lifetime had turned out wrong? The answer to those questions is, "I think so, but I do not know it for certain". I have not managed to get it confirmed as of this moment. It's a little like Las Vegas; what is said at the Bohemian Grove stays at the Bohemian Grove. There are no transcripts or recordings and people who attend are encouraged not to talk. Yet, the topic is so important, that some people have shared with me on an informal basis.

Roger Revelle died of a heart attack three months after the Cosmos story was printed. Oh, how I wish he were still alive today. He might be able to stop this scientific silliness and end the global warming scam.
Al Gore has dismissed Roger Revelle's Mea culpa as the actions of senile old man. And, the next year, while running for Vice President, he said the science behind global warming is settled and there will be no more debate, From 1992 until today, he and his cohorts have refused to debate global warming and when they are asked about we skeptics, they insult us and call us names.

So today we have the acceptance of carbon dioxide as the culprit of global warming. It is concluded that when we burn fossil fuels we are leaving a dastardly carbon footprint which we must pay Al Gore or the environmentalists to offset. Our governments on all levels are considering taxing the use of fossil fuels. The Federal Environmental Protection Agency is on the verge of naming CO2 as a pollutant and strictly regulating its use to protect our climate. The new President and the US congress are on board. Many state governments are moving on the same course.

We are already suffering from this CO2 silliness in many ways. Our energy policy has been strictly hobbled by no drilling and no new refineries for decades. We pay for the shortage this has created every time we buy gas. On top of that the whole thing about corn based ethanol costs us millions of tax dollars in subsidies. That also has driven up food prices. And, all of this is a long way from over.
And, I am totally convinced there is no scientific basis for any of it.

Global Warming. It is the hoax. It is bad science. It is a high jacking of public policy. It is no joke. It is the greatest scam in history.

John Coleman
1-28-2009

http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemanscorner/38574742.html

g5m
01-30-09, 13:14
Just when a friend was planning to get into the global carbon credits for sale deal and something like this comes along and blows it all to smithereens.


Guess he'll have to keep his daytime job.

thopkins22
01-30-09, 13:55
The only thing that anyone knows about global warming is that the surface of the earth is on average 0.7 degrees warmer now than it was 100 years ago. Most of the other data contradicts itself...for that matter the surface temp data often contradicts itself. NYC is much warmer now than it was fifty years ago, while some of the towns an hour away are colder. I think land use is underestimated.

The atmosphere isn't noticeably warmer like the models predict, there is more sea ice around Antarctica than there has ever been since we started tracking it(for that matter the entire continent is getting colder and gaining ice with the exception of one small peninsula(something like 2 percent of the continent), Greenland was MUCH warmer thousands of years ago and it did not melt the way Al Gore would have us believe, sea level is currently higher in some places and lower in others, and on and on.

Al Gore is criminal for putting out that movie, it takes so much out of context. Even if his extreme models were correct(which there is NO reason to believe,) they don't predict the kind of sea level rise that he scares us with for thousands of years. The fact that young kids are being shown this in school and when interviewed say that they are literally scared that they won't live full lives because of global warming is a travesty.

I feel the same way about Obama, McCain, and anyone else in a position of power who feeds this nonsense. Didn't McCain say that global warming was the number one threat to the security of the United States? F-ING politicians man.

I suppose that human beings like to live in a state of fear(thank you Michael Crichton.)

11Bravo
01-30-09, 17:34
You know, I'm really getting tired of hearing all this global warming shit.
Damned near every bit of proof they give for it ends up being proven to be 180° out of reality.

I'm sure everyone here has heard it if not thunk it, but there is one thing we all do that produces CO2.
That is breath.
I really wish all the pissers and moaners convinced we are causing global warming would hold their breaths for 1 solid hour.
Would clear a lot of the problem up.
Would help get rid of stupid gun control and taxes and education policies and lawsuits and...
Man, if only.

Take an hour sometime and watch this-
http://www.garagetv.be/video-galerij/blancostemrecht/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle_Documentary_Film.aspx

Left Sig
01-30-09, 17:47
The world has been steadily warming since the end of the last ice age. Perfectly natural. Once the temperature peaks, it will decline until the next ice age. Also perfectly natural. Some new data suggests we have just passed that peak and are getting cooler.

But the problem is the dogma has already been established. The communist movement became the environmentalist movement, and they have already infiltrated the public schools and indoctrinated more than one generation of children the dogma. Most young people have been taught about the greenhouse effect so much that they don't even question it.

And now even the loyal opposition that fought global warming legislation for so long is starting to agree because they believe their opposition is costing them votes.

It doesn't even matter what the truth is anymore.

FromMyColdDeadHand
01-30-09, 18:02
I really think in 2-3 years, when it is even colder than it is now, and BHO has run out people to tax out and paper to print money on, there is going to be a national hangover. We are all going to scratch our heads about what we were thinking about, just like you do after you wake up with a chick that has an Adam's apple. Either way, you got screwed.

Left Sig
01-30-09, 18:17
I really think in 2-3 years, when it is even colder than it is now, and BHO has run out people to tax out and paper to print money on, there is going to be a national hangover. We are all going to scratch our heads about what we were thinking about, just like you do after you wake up with a chick that has an Adam's apple. Either way, you got screwed.

If this were how the far left thinks, then over the past 40 years they would have realized that welfare causes more problems than it solves. They would also have learned that throwing money at teachers unions doesn't improve school performance, that high business taxes cause companies to move offshore, and that legislating equality doesn't work.

But they still insist on going down the same road with the same failed policies. Once they get global warming legislation enacted, and bringing in more tax money to spend on failed ideas, do you think they will ever stop it, despite what the real scientific community says? By real I mean-peer reviewed geologists and climatologists, not just atmospheric scientists with a bunch of computer models built on bad assumptions.

parishioner
01-30-09, 19:23
The people who are ramming global warming down our throats are doing it because they all have investments in alternative energy technology.

czydj
01-30-09, 20:55
Thanks for grabbing that off the net. I will make good use of the info...

rightwingmaniac
01-30-09, 21:27
quick! someone shoot an email to al gore in his private jet that he rides around in everywhere that burns up more fuel than a car does in an entire year.

Seth Harness
01-30-09, 22:06
Thanks for posting, my grandfather told me 20 years ago that Global Warming was bullshit. Between that and the specials on TV about how our orbit travel is changing to an oval as opposed to a circle, putting us closer to the sun twice and father from the sun twice, I believe this is good icing on the cake.

jaydoc1
01-31-09, 08:59
Here's the link to a 4 part video on YouTube of Coleman being interviewed about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk8SSqc7ekM

You can tell he'd just like to bitch slap the whole global warming movement.

avmech
01-31-09, 14:10
I'm sure everyone here has heard it if not thunk it, but there is one thing we all do that produces CO2.
That is breath.
I really wish all the pissers and moaners convinced we are causing global warming would hold their breaths for 1 solid hour.
Would clear a lot of the problem up.
Would help get rid of stupid gun control and taxes and education policies and lawsuits and...
Man, if only.



And plants take that carbon dioxide, absorb it, and put out oxygen...............learned that in science class a loooooooooooooooooooong time ago.

Left Sig
01-31-09, 14:18
Once they get control of energy and ration it out to use with carbon trading scams, the next step is population control to limit all of the individual carbon emitters (people).

FromMyColdDeadHand
01-31-09, 14:23
Once they get control of energy and ration it out to use with carbon trading scams, the next step is population control to limit all of the individual carbon emitters (people).

Actually already happened. Pelosi says that the money for rubbers is so that less kids are born, saving the states money. The funny thing is, that is the excuse she came up with to cover up a the fact that the money is really a payoff to the pro-abortion groups for their support. She thought the excuse was more palatable than the truth. Silly girl.

parishioner
01-31-09, 14:58
And plants take that carbon dioxide, absorb it, and put out oxygen...............learned that in science class a loooooooooooooooooooong time ago.

An interesting fact is that most of the CO2 in the atmosphere is absorbed by phytoplankton in the ocean and not the plant life on land. It doesnt lead by much though. Its actually about half and half. I thought it was interesting.

STS
01-31-09, 16:13
If the world is warming up so much, why did it snow more in Vegas this year than ever before? We were COMPLETELY covered, and it stuck around for weeks. I was making a snowman a week after the last snow fall! Those familiar with Vegas know that this never happens.

Knownot
01-31-09, 16:30
When I was in high school (late '70s), the "scientists" were predicting the next ice-age was comming! :rolleyes:

Cohibra45
01-31-09, 17:28
This is just a case for:

NEVER LET SCIENCE AND FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF MAKING MONEY!!!:D:D:D

mmike87
01-31-09, 18:56
It's the cows, man! It's always been the cows! Get rid of the cows and you'll stop the warming! It's the cows!

If the cows don't get us with mad cow disease, they'll fart the oeans higher until we all drown!

EvilSpeculator556
01-31-09, 19:03
They want and need us to live the hypocrisy. Money needs to be created somehow. If the money stops circulating the government stops. Socialist governments don't like it when they have to stop. Once you give in the first time it is easier to get you to believe the next time.