View Full Version : Who is GTG for Duracoating magazines?
Jay Cunningham
01-30-09, 21:15
I have ten 5.45mm steel CProducts AR mags that I'd like to get blasted and Duracoated. Who does a good job for a good price with a good turnaround time?
Heavy Metal
01-30-09, 21:28
What kind of finish is on them now?
If it is park, you don't want to blast, that is what you want for a basecoat.
Jay Cunningham
01-30-09, 21:30
Half of them are some kind of mar-lube or park or something, and the other half are shiny jet black Teflon.
Littlelebowski
01-31-09, 08:10
I can recommend the guy who customized my 1911 I got shot with. PM me for his info.
Jay Cunningham
01-31-09, 09:19
pm sent
Thanks for the replies so far. Another question - who has Duracoated magazines? If you do, how do you like them?
Jay Cunningham
02-03-09, 20:52
Littlelebowski gave me a name - anyone else have any recommendations?
Littlelebowski gave me a name - anyone else have any recommendations?
Hoosier Gun Coat did my Browning Buckmark URX, Ernie did a great job but he is not the only one out there http://www.hoosierguncoat.net/
This is a photo of what he did for me:
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp163/bobsarmory/BrowningBuckmark.jpg
RogerinTPA
02-04-09, 08:50
Kater, you got a future show piece gun in mind to match these with? Pics please...
Littlelebowski gave me a name - anyone else have any recommendations?
I can second LL's recommendation. The guy does fantastic work.
Jay Cunningham
02-04-09, 08:56
Kater, you got a future show piece gun in mind to match these with? Pics please...
No, quite the opposite. These are for my practice gun (5.45mm AR) and I want to differentiate them from my regular AR mags. Normally I would just Krylon them but I'm pretty sure that Krylon won't stick to the teflon.
We messed with this some time ago. Duracoat did not last long so we switched to Cerakote. This lasted MUCH better.
C4
Jay Cunningham
02-04-09, 09:09
We messed with this some time ago. Duracoat did not last long so we switched to Cerakote. This lasted MUCH better.
C4
Are you saying that you offer this service?
:p
Are you saying that you offer this service?
:p
No, but can recommend people that do.
C4
Jay Cunningham
02-04-09, 09:20
I suspect that this is going to start getting expensive for practice mags - perhaps I should just find someone with a blasting cabinet and then Krylon them...
I suspect that this is going to start getting expensive for practice mags - perhaps I should just find someone with a blasting cabinet and then Krylon them...
I think this is a good idea.
C4
Gutshot John
02-04-09, 09:32
I suspect that this is going to start getting expensive for practice mags - perhaps I should just find someone with a blasting cabinet and then Krylon them...
I don't disagree with that assessment. I wanted to say so at first but if you're just looking to coat mags then it seems excessively expensive.
If you're not wedded to duracoat and you still wanted the professional job, I'd recommend T. Mark "Gunplumber" Graham's METACOL III coating. The only downside is that he's so good he's always busy and in fact may not be taking new work in the short-term until he can catch up which is why I hesitated to mention it. If you just want to do a bunch of magazines instead of a whole gun he might make an exception.
The metacol coating itself is the best. Unlike paint coatings you don't get flaking and it is self-lubricating. Similarly it covers evenly so you don't get light spots on sharp edges.
I'll get some pictures up for you.
Gutshot John
02-04-09, 10:08
Pictures of Metacol III on FAL mags. I'm sure you can use your imagination for AR mags. Of the the ends are the mags coated in Metacol (left is the "Patina" finish and the right is the "OD" green finish). In the middle is a standard FAL mag for comparison.
The Patina mag has gotten a lot of use, the OD mag a lot less.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll99/GutshotJohn/CIMG0106.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll99/GutshotJohn/CIMG0107.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll99/GutshotJohn/CIMG0108.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll99/GutshotJohn/CIMG0109.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll99/GutshotJohn/CIMG0110.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll99/GutshotJohn/CIMG0111.jpg
Here are some mags that I had Cerakoted.
C4
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/Mags/Cerakoted%20FDE%20with%20L%20plate.jpg
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/Mags/Cerakoted%20OD%20mag%20with%20L%20plate.jpg
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/Mags/Cerakote%20Tungsten%20mag.JPG
i've duracoated several PMAGs (takes very well, lasts just fine) but no aluminum ones yet. I do have some tefloned mags. I am planning to duracoat another upper/lower as soon as i get a warm day in TN and will go ahead and duracoat a couple mags while I'm at it.
I'm not blasting them though. just spraying.
I don't have any steel mags. if you want to send one to test, I'd be happy to hose it down. only colors I have are cobolt blue, magpul FDE, magpul FG
My cheap tail would just wrap some riggers tape around them:cool:
Jay Cunningham
02-04-09, 13:59
My cheap tail would just wrap some riggers tape around them:cool:
That would probably work!
or put some other color L-Plates or something on them.
Jay Cunningham
02-04-09, 16:39
or put some other color L-Plates or something on them.
Those don't work on 5.45mm magazines.
katar, one thing to think about is duracoat isn't very slick. in my experience, it's kind of grippy, which is good and bad. so i only paint the bottom half of the mag, starting at the magwell, so that i don't have any issues with them dropping free. not sure how something like krylon might affect that.
not very good photography here, but you can see how i did the mags here:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6682/pict0204so2.jpg
(the gun eventually looked like this: http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1470/bluegunwp0.jpg)
Those don't work on 5.45mm magazines.
Oh, OK. Never saw the 5.45 mags in person. Assumed the body was the same and and the difference in the follower. My bad...
If you use Magpuls then color code that way. Every time I have used tape I get tape creep and then sticky stuff left behind. But I probably used the wrong sort of tape
Chad
theJanitor
02-04-09, 17:33
how about just painting the baseplate? they don't teflon coat those, right?
Oh, OK. Never saw the 5.45 mags in person. Assumed the body was the same and and the difference in the follower. My bad...
If you use Magpuls then color code that way. Every time I have used tape I get tape creep and then sticky stuff left behind. But I probably used the wrong sort of tape
Chad
Need the Gorilla Glue brand tape--two mules and an ape to pull it off the roll!
Jay Cunningham
02-04-09, 20:44
Here's my revised plan:
Gonna find a guy with a blasting cabinet. Blast all 10 mags, clean them off with brake cleaner then Krylon them from where the the bottom of the magwell hits them on down.
I'll be sure to post pics! :p
RogerinTPA
02-04-09, 21:09
Krylon sounds like a plan. I'm using paint pens I got from Micheal's a month ago to mark the base plates on various mags.
i wonder if it's possible to tape off the top somehow to prevent it from blasting away the teflon.
hey katar, i duracoated a few bravoco/D&H teflon mags today. seems like it will stick just fine. it may be a few months of banging it around though before the jury is in.
pic attached to this thread: http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=5316941#post5316941
Do you really need the blasting chamber? For convenience could you try just roughing the finish up with sandpaper, then using the Krylon? It would save you all the extra effort. You could try it on one, and see how it holds up.
Do you really need the blasting chamber? For convenience could you try just roughing the finish up with sandpaper, then using the Krylon? It would save you all the extra effort. You could try it on one, and see how it holds up.
i agree- i've used Fusion on slick polyurithane plastic with success. that cant be much more paintable than teflon. rough the teflon up with like 120 grit for smoothness, or just sand it off entirely. in fact, i think i'll do one tonight myself to see what happens
Just a thought, no science one way or the other here; I'd probably give it a try on one mag just to see.
Isn't it like 500° where the teflon coating on cookware is supposed to start coming loose because of the heat?
Do it quickly and don't really heat the metal all that much, but run a propane torch flame over the teflon coating.
Use towards the tip so it is where it produces heat but move it around do it doesn't effect the steel.
I'd think you'd be OK.
Maybe so industrial paint stripper.
You know the kind, the stuff that you do not want to get on you and the enviro-nazis scream about.
That might take the teflon stuff off too.
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