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meh92
12-05-06, 23:21
Hello, I'm new to the forum. I stopped by Grant's shop (great place) the other day and now I'm thinking about an SBR upper for my unmodified Colt 6920.

I seem to remember reading on another forum that to legally assemble an SBR you need to (among other things) conspicuously mark the receiver. Am I off base here?

Thanks

Derek_Connor
12-06-06, 08:36
Correct, after you get your CLEO's signature in your county, incorporate yourself within your state, or create a revocable living trust in your state, you send off your Form 1, payment, other paperwork to the ATF. If it has gone pending, this is usually a good time to send your lower receiver to someone who can engrave the appropriate wording into the lower. I stand corrected - I guess you do have to engrave!

Here is the engraving done on my first SBR, I did the trust route:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5800/IMG_1001SmallSmall.jpg

You can get it ANYWHERE on the lower itself. Buffer tube doesn't count. i have seen them done underneath the trigger guard, out of sight, and I have seen them on the mag-well towards the muzzle. As long as its there, and readable.

Robb Jensen
12-06-06, 08:39
If you get the CLEO to sign you still need to engrave.

My first ended up like this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/2543a314.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/4671b2f0.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/1fc5f20c.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/b73a10d1.jpg

meh92
12-06-06, 09:50
Some conflicting information there. Could I please get further explination? I would be getting a CLEO signature. That is not a problem for me.

As far as marking goes, are there differences between:

1. Buying a complete SBR all at once

2. Buying an SBR upper and assembling it on a lower purchased separately at another time in which the lower was not part of an assembled gun

3. Buying an SBR upper and putting it on a lower that was previously purchased as a complete non-SBR gun (like I was thinking of doing)

Thanks

Derek_Connor
12-06-06, 10:08
You still have to engrave even with a CLEO signature? WOW. :mad:


As far as marking goes, are there differences between:

1. Buying a complete SBR all at once

- If you buy a complete SBR, you are not 'making it' It has already been made. But how that translates into engraving, I dont know?

2. Buying an SBR upper and assembling it on a lower purchased separately at another time in which the lower was not part of an assembled gun

You will have to engrave for sure, you are making a "new weapon" in the ATF's eyes

3. Buying an SBR upper and putting it on a lower that was previously purchased as a complete non-SBR gun (like I was thinking of doing)

Same as above

Thanks

C4IGrant
12-06-06, 10:23
Engraving the lower is always a good idea (no matter which way you go).

Good to meet you and thanks for the info on upland bird hunting!



C4

meh92
12-06-06, 10:41
It was a pleaseure to meet you, too.

I hope you get down to Bucyrus for some pheasants. I'm headed out to the store today to get some supplies to cook a few of mine. The birds they use are good size and if you let them get up and away a bit before blasting them, they make fantastic sized servings. I wound up with one soup-bird, unfortunately. The others look really good.

Take care and give the pooches a scratch on the head for me.

Robb Jensen
12-06-06, 11:02
You still have to engrave even with a CLEO signature? WOW. :mad:





Let me clarify.
If You, your Trust, Corp or LLC are making a SBR on a Form 1........then You, your Trust, Corp or LLC will be the manufacturer of the SBR.

If you are getting a prebuilt SBR as a transfer on a Form 4 you won't have to engrave as it'll already be engraved with the manufacturers name, city state.

meh92
12-06-06, 11:34
That makes sense. Thank you.

striped1
12-07-06, 06:48
moved to own thread so as not to hijack.