View Full Version : Ammo is getting scarce
FlyingHunter
02-20-09, 20:03
Went to Midway USA, my usual source for ammo, and they were all out my first choices in 45acp, 6.8spc and .223. So I go to Cabelas - out of all of them. So I go to Cheaper than Dirt, then Sportmans Warehouse - all out.
So I called the HH6 and ask her to buy .45 acp at Walmart while she's shopping today. I come home and she said she's been to 2 different WalMarts and they are out of .45acp.
Jeez
It's way past bad. If you can't get .22lr at WalMart, then you know times are tough.
achildofthesky
02-23-09, 11:20
I am in NW Aarghkansas and I often cruize the ammo section on grocery runs and there is always a lot of 223, 45, 40, 22, 30-06 and the like. 308 is sometimes a bit thin as is 9mm... Restocking is pretty frequent so far.
Next year around deer season I will again stock up on a few boxes each of Win, Rem and Fed 30-30 as I can't hardly load for that price with the factory $5 off coupons, but that is the only store bought ammo I have bought in 3 years or so...
Be safe
Patty
At first I thought this was a necro post from 2006 or something... it's been scarce for a long while. I haven't bought factory .223 in at least 2 years.
I ran around between several different stores Saturday (including Wal Marts, a Cabelas, and numerous gun shops) and came up with a grand total of *zero* rifle primers of any kind (obviously Wal Mart doesn't count as they don't sell components) and only a handful of 525 round bulk cheapo bricks of .22 for $25 a pop.
I said no thanks on the .22 and found some primers online after looking for about 2 hours.
At first I thought this was a necro post from 2006 or something... it's been scarce for a long while. I haven't bought factory .223 in at least 2 years.
I ran around between several different stores Saturday (including Wal Marts, a Cabelas, and numerous gun shops) and came up with a grand total of *zero* rifle primers of any kind (obviously Wal Mart doesn't count as they don't sell components) and only a handful of 525 round bulk cheapo bricks of .22 for $25 a pop.
I said no thanks on the .22 and found some primers online after looking for about 2 hours.
How many do you want? I just re-stocked locally last night. 28.00+ tax per 1K for Large, 27.00/1k small. CCI, Win, Wolf, and federal all on the shelf.
Looks like the online dealers are all out, but the stores are still getting shipments.
Upstate NY.
randyman_ar
02-24-09, 15:43
I am in NW Aarghkansas and I often cruize the ammo section on grocery runs and there is always a lot of 223, 45, 40, 22, 30-06 and the like. 308 is sometimes a bit thin as is 9mm... Restocking is pretty frequent so far.
Next year around deer season I will again stock up on a few boxes each of Win, Rem and Fed 30-30 as I can't hardly load for that price with the factory $5 off coupons, but that is the only store bought ammo I have bought in 3 years or so...
Be safe
Patty
I'm in central Ar. about 3 wks ago all Wally-wolrd had was shotgun shells. Haven't seen 223, 45 or 308 in awhile.
At first I thought this was a necro post from 2006 or something... it's been scarce for a long while. I haven't bought factory .223 in at least 2 years.
Yeah, really - welcome to early 2007. Ammo has been scarce for at least a couple years and pretty much doubled in price between 2005 and 2007.
You can still get most of what you need if you're patient and plan ahead (or are willing to pay through the nose for it).
...so where are there any 5.56 primers?
I've been patient and I look all the time...where should I try next?
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...so where are there any 5.56 primers?
I've been patient and I look all the time...where should I try next?
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WOW. I was reluctant when I placed my order from Wideners for 5k of rifle primers a few weeks back. I guess I'm lucky I went ahead and nabbed them.
They're so flooded with orders, the just now charged my card, and they haven't shipped yet.
...exactly what I mean...
Went from zillions ta' nuthin' purty quick...I've still got a few but it's definately cuttin' into my resupply and practice ammo...http://emoticons4u.com/smoking/rauch06.gif
What is really bad is not just the factory ammo, but reloading components - try to find some bulk 5.56/.223 bullets! Wideners is out of there usual 5K bulk...and all below. Powdervalley and their name brand bulk 5.56 bullets.
Lets not forget those fine folks seemed to have raised the prices of primers and powders alike.
In the last 3-4 days the price of imported ammo has more than doubled. I.E. Wolf 7.62X39mm was $7.99/box of 20 on Tuesday, now $17.99 for the same box.
I won't get into why this happened. I don't want to see this thread get locked.
I have noticed the same thing. I mean with all the panic buying I know it is to be expected, but as of real recently it seems like it's gotten really bad. I mean, shooting .223 is starting to look like shooting .308. Of course it could just be that now I want to buy another case so I'm looking harder. I'm at the point that instead of buying imported prvi or bulk federal, I might as well go down to the local gunshop and buy black hills. I guess if I have to pay a bunch of money for ammo, I might as well buy the quality stuff with something better than fmj bullets(I can get 55gr soft points at an O.K. price).
How many do you want? I just re-stocked locally last night. 28.00+ tax per 1K for Large, 27.00/1k small. CCI, Win, Wolf, and federal all on the shelf.
Looks like the online dealers are all out, but the stores are still getting shipments.
Upstate NY.
I found what I need for now, but I figure you're going to start getting some pm's :D
In the last 3-4 days the price of imported ammo has more than doubled. I.E. Wolf 7.62X39mm was $7.99/box of 20 on Tuesday, now $17.99 for the same box.
I won't get into why this happened. I don't want to see this thread get locked.
Is there any truth to the rumor that 7.62 x 39 import was banned last week? Someone aske dme and I didn't hear anything.
mark,
My guess is if something like that really happened then the NRA and others would have sendng emails out like no tomorrow.
mark,
I just went to all of my usual ammo sites and Wideners is the only one that had any in stock and it was 122 or 123gr. SP. They also had a few hundred rounds of something else. I went to Cheaper Than Dirt and added 50 boxes (1 case) of ammo to the cart and it was 889.00. I almost shit a Twinkie.
I was in the gun store when the change took effect. Bulf packs of ammo were removed from the floor and broken down into individual, read more affordable packs and tagged.
The Wolf 7.62 X 39 ammo went from $7.99 to $17.99 right in front of me. It was also the same price on Cheaper than dirt. It made me sick.
But, at the same time I was glad that I have been loading up on everything for quite a while now. Right before the election I bought a pallet of Hornady TAP Practice 75 Gr. at a screaming price. Glad now, that I did that then. I also bought at the end of last year a boat load of Ranger T 12 Ga. ammo and cheaper , on sale, Remington slug and buckshot.
I am afraid the days of cheap ammo are now behind us. At least until we get a president that will repleal the new tax on imported ammo. 2009 will be a record year for sales of reloading equipment.
Is there any truth to the rumor that 7.62 x 39 import was banned last week? Someone aske dme and I didn't hear anything.
Mark, I did not hear anything either. OBAMA, (I hope mentioning that does not get this thread locked) buried the paragraph about the sales on imported ammo being taxed to death so deep inside the $787 Billion dollar stimulous bill, no one knew it was there, until after it was signed and too late. If you remember, he did not want to give anyone the time to read the bill in detail, length.
It seems to me the majority of ammo is imported and even if it is not, domestic ammo will take a big jump anyway.
Even at the higher prices, the smaller gun stores can not even source the ammo they need to replace their empty shelves, as they can not get the ammo.
I do not beleive that imported ammo was banned. However, I could be wrong, I too did not get to read the stimulous bill and the NRA was caught napping.
Maybe it was the tax that people are referring to. 889 for a case of 7.62--wow and holy crap!
I get the feeling that guys will start saving brass and learning to reload, or they will be shooting a whole lot less.
In the meantime. I have two leads on ammo. A guy got divorced due to domestic abuse. He had, two bedrooms full of ammo from floor to ceiling, in various calibers. He has since lost his guns, his house and can't come near the EX wife who now owns the ammo and wants to unload it. The other, is a new small co. that uses state of the art reloading equipment and Lake City brass and 55 Gr. FMJ ammo that I could get cheap and possibly sell cheap. You must be resourceful these days.
RogerinTPA
03-01-09, 20:20
It's a Got Damn shame too. Shooting has been the most enjoyable and economical sport I've been involved with my entire life.....until now. If you haven't been stocking up the last few years (I have been an absolute ammo whore in 9mm, .223 and 7.62x39 and will continue to do so), shooting will be so cost prohibitive, it will be a quarterly or semi annual event for most folks. But hey, dry fire drills are still free...
You might want to butter up the friend's EX to get first dibs.... Offer 200 bucks a case and back your truck up!
that's just a STUPID price for wolf 7.62. i wonder if anyone's actually paid it.
you can still buy 223 MATCH ammo (69g) for under $500/case.
I found what I need for now, but I figure you're going to start getting some pm's :D
The offer is open to anyone that needs them. Pay Shipping and Hazmat and I"ll get however many you need.:D
We all have to stand together, or we'll stand alone.
shooting will be so cost prohibitive
Seems like that was the end game...:(
Scottsdale Gun Club has Wolf 762x39 ammo in stock. Just over 300.00 per case. I am pretty sure that they ship ammo.
kaiservontexas
03-02-09, 18:17
I get the feeling that guys will start saving brass and learning to reload, or they will be shooting a whole lot less.
I have been shooting way less. I did save brass before this wave of crude began. I need to set up my reloading even if I cannot get ammunition components.
New price for standard Ranger Talon in 9mm just off the factory line is now $39.99 for a box of 50rds. Last year the price was only $19.99 for a box of 50rds. I think Winchester is really milking this Obama scare for all they can. A far as I know, Federal and Speer are keeping their prices down to a more moderate price increase.
RogerinTPA
03-02-09, 20:20
Scottsdale Gun Club has Wolf 762x39 ammo in stock. Just over 300.00 per case. I am pretty sure that they ship ammo.
Holy S&%T! Last Aug or Sept, I bought quite a few cases of Wolf MC HP stuff for around $175.00 + Shipping! That is retarded!
HiggsBoson
03-02-09, 20:55
I have reason to suspect the scarcity is just due to more panic-buying.
Instead of posting the rest here, I've posted the reference over in the AWB thread. I'll just link to it here (https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?p=321769#post321769). Don't want to get this thread wacked by The Katar's thump-stick. :eek:
Scottsdale Gun Club has Wolf 762x39 ammo in stock. Just over 300.00 per case. I am pretty sure that they ship ammo.
Thanks for the tip. Tel. # ?
It's on their website. Off the top of my head I believe that it is (480) 348-1111.
Thanks for the tip. Tel. # ?
IG, you the man. Their web site does not list a phone #, just a a fax. I will be calling when they open. Your always awake. Be safe.
I am somewhat of an insomniac so I usually only sleep about 6 hours a day.
IG, you the man. Their web site does not list a phone #, just a a fax. I will be calling when they open. Your always awake. Be safe.
I have reason to suspect the scarcity is just due to more panic-buying.
Instead of posting the rest here, I've posted the reference over in the AWB thread. I'll just link to it here (https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?p=321769#post321769). Don't want to get this thread wacked by The Katar's thump-stick. :eek:
It's not panic buying for anyone I know, it's rage buying.
I'm seeing nearly 10 years of my own hard work about to be pissed away by that damn socialist sitting in the White House. I only have one friend left (barring those in the service, obviously) - ONE, out of more than 2 dozen - who still has a job. My familys' business is evidently going to be taxed out of existence in the near future.
And that's if things go WELL, and we avoid serious inflation.
Now, explain to me why I shouldn't ensure a good supply of ammunition? Screw the socialist bastards.
HiggsBoson
03-03-09, 18:24
It's not panic buying for anyone I know, it's rage buying.
I'm seeing nearly 10 years of my own hard work about to be pissed away by that damn socialist sitting in the White House. I only have one friend left (barring those in the service, obviously) - ONE, out of more than 2 dozen - who still has a job. My familys' business is evidently going to be taxed out of existence in the near future.
And that's if things go WELL, and we avoid serious inflation.
Now, explain to me why I shouldn't ensure a good supply of ammunition? Screw the socialist bastards.
I like that term, "rage buying". =) Politics aside, I agree that we should be allowed to buy/own as much ammo as we personally think will be necessary for the next thousand years or more. If your idea of an ample supply is several pallets stacked high with 100K rounds each, then I see no reason you should be prevented from doing just that. Whether you are able to find and pay for such supplies is another question. The price will fluctuate some with the price of the commodities markets, but it seems like it is the demand that is driving up prices. Until they go high enough to drive people out of the market, we will all be feeling the pain. How most people here and elsewhere seem to feel about the government coupled with the lousy economy... Heck, more ammo is sounding like a better and better investment. So I don't see an end to the high prices (and frequent shortages) in sight any time for the next 3-4 years at least. I'm hoping I'm wrong, I'm just an arm-chair economist and my crystal-ball is broken, so YMMV.
MarshallDodge
03-03-09, 19:08
My wife went to Walmart today to pick up a few things and I asked her to pick up a couple bulk packs of 22. She said they had none in stock but they did have some other ammo they had just got in. There was a sign that said "3 boxes of ammo per customer."
I don't see how people can afford not to reload. It costs me $150 per thousand to reload 223.
I am somewhat of an insomniac so I usually only sleep about 6 hours a day.
Me too, I avg. about 6 hrs a night. Thanks for the tip. Initial order was placed for 8 cases. Last time I stocked up , same ammo $160 per case.
I don't see how people can afford not to reload. It costs me $150 per thousand to reload 223.
I think that's where I'm going to go(although this isn't the best time to get into that either). I have a lee set that I got and never used. I know that isn't the greatest, but it should get me started. Now when the snow melts I'll have to go scour the pasture where I shoot for all the brass I didn't pick up. That should be fun.
losbronces
03-03-09, 21:40
My wife went to Walmart today to pick up a few things and I asked her to pick up a couple bulk packs of 22. She said they had none in stock but they did have some other ammo they had just got in. There was a sign that said "3 boxes of ammo per customer."
I don't see how people can afford not to reload. It costs me $150 per thousand to reload 223.
Yes, but bulk bullets for .223 and 9 mm are now scarce as well.
MarshallDodge
03-03-09, 23:51
Yes, but bulk bullets for .223 and 9 mm are now scarce as well.
Midway is having a sale on Rainier plated 9mm bullets at the moment but I am not sure on 223 since I have PLENTY to load. :)
fruitjacket
03-04-09, 21:37
Forgive my ignorance fellas...I'm a newbie here.
I've been reading up on the ammo shortages, and did some internet hunting.
I think I found a decent deal on some ammo, but I'm a bit confused on what the difference is between a 5.56 and .223.
Example:
http://www.g2gtactical.com/product.sc?categoryId=6&productId=19
5.56 Federal XM193 55 grn FMJ 500 rnd CASE = $235 shipped
http://www.g2gtactical.com/product.sc?categoryId=6&productId=89
REMINGTON UMC 223 55 GRN MC L223R3 CASE = 200 rounds = $99 shipped
The first example (5.56) is out of stock, but the .223 is IN STOCK.
Iraq Ninja
03-04-09, 22:43
Academy has Monarch brand 9mm, which is really Prvi P stuff and good to go. Nice brass. Cost is 10.44 a box of 50, limit four boxes per person.
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