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knguye11
02-21-09, 02:08
My LMT weight 7.5lbs with all necessary accessories on it. If you are of shape, carrying this weight all day in class can wear you down.

What do consider necessary on your rifle to keep the weight down?

http://www.s154482980.onlinehome.us/photo/Firearms/LMT2/images/IMG_1343.jpg

http://www.s154482980.onlinehome.us/photo/Firearms/LMT2/images/IMG_1346.jpg

ROCKET20_GINSU
02-21-09, 04:11
Is that an HK mag? I can't tell, if it is, those are heavier than the USGI or magpul mags, so you can cut some weight there. I would ditch the x3 magnifier...If you want a new stock the CTR from magpul is pretty light also. And add good sling, I'm sure you have one as I see the mounting points, just didn't see it attached so didn't want to assume. Moving the Aimpoint towards the butt may help with weight and balance too if/when you take the magnifier off. I think everything else is g2g, wouldn't ditch anything else. NICE RIFLE btw!

The more you carry it the less you notice it, I know thats not practical CONUS but I got pretty used to mine after several 6+ month stints carrying it 24/7 ;)

I hold being physically prepared / in shape as just as important as being tactically prepared, more so on many days because I think the average american is in the greatest danger from health related hazards but thats just my opinion, YMMV.

FYI, I'm a big crossfit fan :D 20-30 min of suck per day!

Good luck!

GU

RyanB
02-21-09, 06:31
Switching from an M962 and a CompM2 to an M600 and a T-1 saved me 3/4 of a pound.

rob_s
02-21-09, 07:33
That gun configured like that weighs only 7.5 lbs? I'm finding that somewhat hard to believe. Here's some other configurations to compare to.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/gun%20stuff/BCM/th_IMG_3277-800-1.jpg (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/gun%20stuff/BCM/IMG_3277-800-1.jpg)


http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/weights/th_DSC_1756-Small-1.jpg (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/weights/DSC_1756-Small-1.jpg)


http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/weights/th_DSC_1754-Small-1.jpg (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/weights/DSC_1754-Small-1.jpg)

sonrider657
02-21-09, 07:42
5 lb. 1 oz. (without magazine):
http://www.christiancarnivore.com/Cav left.jpg

markm
02-21-09, 08:39
What do consider necessary on your rifle to keep the weight down?

Dude!

You didn't pass on a single aftermarket gadget did you? :eek:

I think the paint in the lettering on the lower and the KNS pins are what pushed you over the top on the weight scale!

Jay Cunningham
02-21-09, 08:44
My LMT weight 7.5lbs with all necessary accessories on it. If you are of shape, carrying this weight all day in class can wear you down.

What do consider necessary on your rifle to keep the weight down?

http://www.s154482980.onlinehome.us/photo/Firearms/LMT2/images/IMG_1343.jpg

http://www.s154482980.onlinehome.us/photo/Firearms/LMT2/images/IMG_1346.jpg

Where's your light and sling?

FVC3
02-21-09, 09:42
My LMT weight 7.5lbs with all necessary accessories on it. If you are of shape, carrying this weight all day in class can wear you down.

What do consider necessary on your rifle to keep the weight down?

http://www.s154482980.onlinehome.us/photo/Firearms/LMT2/images/IMG_1343.jpg

http://www.s154482980.onlinehome.us/photo/Firearms/LMT2/images/IMG_1346.jpg

Nice rig, but that comes in at only 7.5 #s? Also, I don't see a light or sling, must-haves in my book.

Jay Cunningham
02-21-09, 09:45
5 lb. 1 oz. (without magazine):
http://www.christiancarnivore.com/Cav left.jpg

Have you run that gun hard?

El Mac
02-21-09, 09:49
You could lose the VFG. Its not needed.

wargasm
02-21-09, 10:35
My LMT weight 7.5lbs with all necessary accessories on it. If you are of shape, carrying this weight all day in class can wear you down.

What do consider necessary on your rifle to keep the weight down?

http://www.s154482980.onlinehome.us/photo/Firearms/LMT2/images/IMG_1343.jpg

http://www.s154482980.onlinehome.us/photo/Firearms/LMT2/images/IMG_1346.jpg

More "rifle P.T."!

jhs1969
02-21-09, 11:14
http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p427/jhs1969/100_1702_edited-1.jpg

Since this photo was taken I've added a G2 light. My wife currently has a BM M4 in it's basic config. I was a little suprised in the weight increase on my LMT, it feels like it is 2 pounds heavier, though I don't have a scale for exact weights. It is not a big problem when carrying in the field and everything I have on it I feel is necessary, the light has been a big help when going after coyotes at night.

vicious_cb
02-21-09, 14:53
You might want to re weigh your rifle. Theres no way that thing is 7.5lbs will all the stuff you got on it.

This is my lightest build, it weighs 7.1lbs without a light and sling. Theres no way your rifle is .4lbs heavier than mine with all the stuff you got on it.

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee52/j_rock001/IMG_0164.jpg

motoman
02-21-09, 15:22
That LMT seems like it would be about 8.5 - 8.75lbs. but i can run a set up without the magnifyer and the kgrip, that would drop it some more. just my 2 cent

Jedimac
02-21-09, 16:29
Heres my stag weighing in at 8lbs. 1.3 oz. hope this gives someone an idea what your rifle could weigh up to with added accessories on it, the pmag in the pic is empty. just my 2 cents worth.


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/jedimac/IMG00055.jpg

Trempel
02-21-09, 18:44
This is a RRA lower with LMT upper. As you see it, the weight is 8.04 lbs without mag (but with two spare 123 Lithium batteries in the MIAD). Taking off the rather heavy Surefire and mount, drops it down to 7.58 lbs. I'm sure that a lighter torch, BUIS and something like a T-1 Aimpoint, or even no optic, would drop the weight further. But, it is unnecessary for my purposes. The empty M-1 rifle is something like 9+ lbs for Pete's sake and millions of guys carried those through a couple of wars. I'm not going to moan about a much lighter AR that is meant for HD and has almost four times the capacity, better aiming system, ergonomics and a light to boot.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/trempel/RRALMT.jpg

11Bravo
02-21-09, 19:06
I used to get a kick out of guys pissing and moaning about how much a M16A1 with a M203 weighed...
While I stood there with a M60 slung over my shoulder.
They'd whine and cry about how much their ruck weighed while mine had the same stuff in it plus I had a spare barrel or a tripod or pintle and T&E or more than one of them or all of them.
Oh God, what I wouldn't have given for a 203.

knguye11
02-21-09, 19:27
Keep in mind the mag is empty.

I weighted this rifle on a bathroom scale. So it might be off. Let see if I can find a true reading on a regular scale.

I do have VTAC sling and Surefire 900A, but that will add more weight.

Thanks for some of your suggestions.

SecretAgentMan
02-21-09, 19:53
I used to get a kick out of guys pissing and moaning about how much a M16A1 with a M203 weighed...
While I stood there with a M60 slung over my shoulder.
They'd whine and cry about how much their ruck weighed while mine had the same stuff in it plus I had a spare barrel or a tripod or pintle and T&E or more than one of them or all of them.
Oh God, what I wouldn't have given for a 203.

As a fan and owner of AK-style weapons, I don't really notice the weight of AR pattern rifles. All of my AR-15s are lighter than, say, a VEPR K.

NoBody
02-21-09, 19:54
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LOKNLOD
02-21-09, 20:13
My AR is pretty damned heavy. BCM Middy w/ Larue 12, Accupoint, UBR, G2L mounted out front. I think it weighs a hair over 10 lbs.

Shoots, balances, and handles great. I don't think it's too heavy for use, but I'm afraid it's going to kick my butt at class. Spending all day holding it on target is a bit artificial for a civvy like me, but there's still the issue of it being an impediment to learning.

Canonshooter
02-21-09, 21:41
My BM M4gery KISS carbine.

G&R Magpul CTR Carbine Stock MIL-Spec Package, BCM bolt upgrade kit, MAID, MOE handguards, tritium front post, FSC556. Blue Force Gear sling adds about 5 oz., waiting for a G,G&G front QD Sling Thing to install. The neutered lugless barrel has to be saving me at least an ounce our two. ;-)


http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/M4-4.jpg

knguye11
02-21-09, 22:24
I've got a chance to reweighted and the correct amount is around 9lbs this time including VTAC sling.


I guess I'm a fat boy then! My Noveske N4 LCLP with Tango Down Stubby, M4s, and x300 is 8 lbs 5 oz. :p

Cameron
02-22-09, 01:44
My LMT weighs... If you are of shape, carrying this weight all day in class can wear you down.

Forget about how much it weighs and hit the gym.

I am not being facetious, or a smart arse. In all seriousness, if a day at the range and a 9lbs poodle shooter is wearing you down? You need to rethink your exercise regime.

Strap a 203 on that bitch and the try humping with armour, your ruck, enough batteries to run a city and all the gunners spare ammo, then don't change you boxers for a weak. Now tell me if your AR is too heavy...

Cameron

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/tire_iron/SpecOps%20Pics/overloadedconkedout.jpg

Tomac
02-22-09, 08:41
STG-556 w/Aimpoint Micro, taclight, sling and 42rd mag loaded w/75gr TAP weighs in right at 8.75lbs.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/Tomac/ResizeofLowMicroMount002.jpg
Tomac

Jay Cunningham
02-22-09, 10:38
This is AR General discussion, please stay on topic.

nichud09
02-22-09, 11:35
im running a RRA heavy barrel 16" w/ ACOG TA31f, pentagon md series flashlight with laser. larue vertical grip, DD OMEGA rail.

.. but i do have a 37mm launcher on the way. this bad boy will be well over 10 LBS!!! no worries tho!

..shell make a great dumbbell hehe!!!

sonrider657
02-22-09, 20:42
5 lb. 1 oz. (without magazine):
http://www.christiancarnivore.com/Cav left.jpg


Have you run that gun hard?

Honestly, no. I've shot less than 200 rounds through it to date. But so far so good. I think that it could hold up to some abuse but I have not tested it hard yet.

QuickStrike
02-23-09, 07:29
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn121/quickstrikes112/DSCN0097small.jpg


About 8-8.5 lbs. loaded on the crappy bathroom scale. I'm thinking of just changing the sling attachment points and maybe a 12 o'clock light mount.

Anything less than 12 lbs. loaded and not muzzle heavy = pretty light.

CarlosDJackal
02-23-09, 13:40
I used to get a kick out of guys pissing and moaning about how much a M16A1 with a M203 weighed...
While I stood there with a M60 slung over my shoulder.
They'd whine and cry about how much their ruck weighed while mine had the same stuff in it plus I had a spare barrel or a tripod or pintle and T&E or more than one of them or all of them.
Oh God, what I wouldn't have given for a 203.

I used to hear the same from the 60-gunners while I struggled with that damned 81-mm Mortar bipod!! Then, I would look over the AT guy (M-67 90-mm Recoiless Rifle) and I would feel better. :p

My "SBR" weighs in at 10.5-pounds without the suppressor or a loaded magazine. I wish I can figure out a way to shave some more weight. I am actually considering removing the Aimpoint 3x Magnifier and mount because of this.

decodeddiesel
02-23-09, 13:58
Forget about how much it weighs and hit the gym.

I am not being facetious, or a smart arse. In all seriousness, if a day at the range and a 9lbs poodle shooter is wearing you down? You need to rethink your exercise regime.

Strap a 203 on that bitch and the try humping with armour, your ruck, enough batteries to run a city and all the gunners spare ammo, then don't change you boxers for a weak. Now tell me if your AR is too heavy...

Cameron

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/tire_iron/SpecOps%20Pics/overloadedconkedout.jpg

This...

FWIW when I got onto the Chinook which took me to my FOB for my second tour in addition to my armor and M4 (with RAS, PEQ2, M951, and TA31), I was carrying enough radios, batteries, ammo (mine and the SAW's), grenades, and other crap to last a month without resupply. I also had my ballistic computer and tables for my FDC duties. I also had 2 spare uniforms, some drawers and socks, and some hygiene gear. All in all when I stepped on the scale to go on the Chinook it read 402 pounds and I weighed 180 or so at the time.

ETA: Now I really want to know what my LMT weighs. Anyone care to guess? 14.5" Barrel with Vortex, LaRue 7" rail with FUG and KAC pannels, M600C, T1 with LaRue Mount, H buffer, FA carrier group, MIAD, Vickers Sling with DD QD points, and SOPMOD.

panzerr
02-23-09, 17:41
Forget about how much it weighs and hit the gym.

I am not being facetious, or a smart arse. In all seriousness, if a day at the range and a 9lbs poodle shooter is wearing you down? You need to rethink your exercise regime.

Strap a 203 on that bitch and the try humping with armour, your ruck, enough batteries to run a city and all the gunners spare ammo, then don't change you boxers for a weak. Now tell me if your AR is too heavy...



The Psychology of doing something out of your own volition is quiet different than doing something that is not necessarily your choice.

USMC03
02-23-09, 19:50
ETA: Now I really want to know what my LMT weighs. Anyone care to guess? 14.5" Barrel with Vortex, LaRue 7" rail with FUG and KAC pannels, M600C, T1 with LaRue Mount, H buffer, FA carrier group, MIAD, Vickers Sling with DD QD points, and SOPMOD.


Close to what you have listed (H2 buffer...mentioned it because you can't see it)
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/LMT%20SWAT%20Gun/DPP_0002-2.jpg
8 lbs. 4.4 oz (without the magazine)



S/F,
Jeff

Curare
02-23-09, 20:30
5.8lbs.