Tax the Poor

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

CNN report on Tax increases for 'Rich' (http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/25/budget.healthcare/index.html)

I'm getting really sick of all this 'for the children' and 'tax the rich'. My wife and I were in school well into our thirties and have six college degrees between us, I rack up ungodly amounts of infrequently-seeing-my-kids-miles and we are just starting to make some money, and Barry decides that I can't keep it. Wealthiest Americans need to pay more to give breaks to the 'poor'. $600 billion for his cronies in congress to pass out. $600 Billion to figure out how to save money??? WTF The sad things is that all that money gets spent and we still have people in a hard way. My sister was a social worker in Illinois for a contract company that provided services for the state. My dad went to visit her office and came away saying "Wow, there's a lot of money in poverty."

I may just bitch slap the next Republican politician I see. If they had been able to keep their hands out of the cookie jar, we wouldn't have this mess and idiots in charge today.

We only need to look at California to see what happens when you shift the tax burden to the few and the rich. Tax the poor! All I can think about is that video from before the election of the woman saying that if Barry gets elected he'll pay off her mortgage and her bills.

When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.
Benjamin Franklin

Tax the poor. Line up the illegal Mexican immigrants, hand them a rifle, and send them back to fix their own country. And don't start me on illegal Canadians, they actually take the good jobs (You can out them by asking them to say "Out and about in a boat).

Just emailed the local Republican party lady asking to get involved. Lesser of two evils.

[chadbag]

And don't start me on illegal Canadians, they actually take the good jobs (You can out them by asking them to say "Out and about in a boat).


Now that is funny

[PlatoCATM]

Where did you find the Ben Franklin quote? I will (hopefully) be out of school soon and I'd like to take up once again reading primary sources by our founding fathers. That's where we need to begin.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Barry talking about taxes, and the Hellen Mirren life of Ayn Rand on HBO has me all hopped up.

I've heard the Franklin quote before and I just googled something like "vote yourself money" and a list of quotes came up. Actually there were a few quotes like that, even one from Karl Marx, as a way to destroy democracy. Ben Franklin was the answer I wanted, so I stopped looking.

[losbronces]

What we are doing now is rewarding failure and penalizing success. This is what the Brits did prior to Margaret Thatcher and it was a disaster.

[SloaneRanger]

We are defying one of the most important laws in the universe ...Darwinism and survival of the fittest.

This is nothing more than the antithesis of Economic Darwinism..

[Nevermiss]

I couldn't agree more. The lack of personal responsibility is exceeded only by the degree political corruption.

Unfortunately I think our current direction can only be changed by a violent revolution and complete tyranny, i.e. no more entitlement programs and mass murder of corrupt politicians (And I'm not one of those black helicopter, live in a shack sociopath types). Since I think that scenerio is doubtfull, we are undoubtedly headed the way of a complete socialist society.

Paying 70% percent of my income for taxes is not in my plan.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Unfortunately, this isn't Narnia. We don't get a face-to-face battle with evil on a flat plain, with Ronald Reagan raised from the dead at the last minute to save the republic.

We get RINO senators selling their souls for one barrel of pork at a time, corporations willing to pawn off obligations on the public sector in return for good numbers this quarter, and citizens who don't look out for their own good.

Liberalism doesn't march us to socialism, it teases us, tempts us, debases us until that slouch becomes a full slide to Gamorrah. It's just one Ellsworth Touhy after another on the TV, in print, on the radio and in political office. Welcome to France.

[jaydoc1]

A very VERY long time ago I looked at the life that my father was able to provide for my family (he was a doctor) versus the life that most of my friends had. I'm talking purely financial/material life here, not whether my friends had loving families.

Now my dad loved us, and we had a very loving family, but we also never went without and had a very enjoyable time while we were at it. While we didn't live lavishly, we lived very comfortably. My parents didn't fight about money. There wasn't tension around the house because they were worried about paying the bills. Yes my father was absent quite a lot, but when he was there (which was actually a good part of the time) we just were able to enjoy each other. I decided that was what I wanted for my family some day so at the age of twelve I decided to do whatever it took to provide that life for myself and whatever family I might someday have.

What that meant was an extreme sacrifice of time and money on my part for the next 16 years. 4 years of high school, 4 years of college, 4 years of medical school, and 4 years of residency. While my friends were out playing, I was studying. I married my high school sweetheart a month before I started med school and our single-minded purpose was to be as happy as possible while making sure I met my goals. That meant while I studied during the day my wife slept and then worked all night as a nurse because she was paid the most for that shift. That meant for the first 8 years of our marriage I saw her only a couple hours on most days.

To pay for this we also amassed a very large amount of student loans (medical school is far from cheap).

At the end of it all I was told I made too much to write off my loan interest. I would be paying taxes in the country's highest tax bracket. Deductions available to most citizens of our country were not available to us.

Now a lot of people might say, "Wow, I really feel sorry for your troubles.:rolleyes:" And they would be partially right, I am very very blessed. But I am not very very lucky. My wife and I planned every step of our life, worked our asses off, and watched all our friends start their own families while we waited in order to be in the position we are now.

And now I'm being told we haven't done enough. We should be ashamed of ourselves that we wish to keep more of what we earn while others go without.

You know what. I love that some of my tax dollars go to people who really need it. But it pisses me off that most of it goes to people that don't deserve the smallest fraction of it. And now I and people like me are expected to do more. To suck it up and take it and feel guilty about not wanting to. Well FUBO and your democrat congress and the leeches in our society that live for nothing more than a handout. Looks like I'm going to be giving you more of my family's income but I don't have to be happy about it.:mad:

And BTW I know that there are plenty of hard-working people out there who have a hard time just getting by from day to day. They do worry about making sure their family has what they need and frequently work multiple jobs to provide for them. Those are the people who deserve help and they should get it.

[JoshNC]

A very VERY long time ago I looked at the life that my father was able to provide for my family (he was a doctor) versus the life that most of my friends had. I'm talking purely financial/material life here, not whether my friends had loving families.

Now my dad loved us, and we had a very loving family, but we also never went without and had a very enjoyable time while we were at it. While we didn't live lavishly, we lived very comfortably. My parents didn't fight about money. There wasn't tension around the house because they were worried about paying the bills. Yes my father was absent quite a lot, but when he was there (which was actually a good part of the time) we just were able to enjoy each other. I decided that was what I wanted for my family some day so at the age of twelve I decided to do whatever it took to provide that life for myself and whatever family I might someday have.

What that meant was an extreme sacrifice of time and money on my part for the next 16 years. 4 years of high school, 4 years of college, 4 years of medical school, and 4 years of residency. While my friends were out playing, I was studying. I married my high school sweetheart a month before I started med school and our single-minded purpose was to be as happy as possible while making sure I met my goals. That meant while I studied during the day my wife slept and then worked all night as a nurse because she was paid the most for that shift. That meant for the first 8 years of our marriage I saw her only a couple hours on most days.

To pay for this we also amassed a very large amount of student loans (medical school is far from cheap).

At the end of it all I was told I made too much to write off my loan interest. I would be paying taxes in the country's highest tax bracket. Deductions available to most citizens of our country were not available to us.

Now a lot of people might say, "Wow, I really feel sorry for your troubles.:rolleyes:" And they would be partially right, I am very very blessed. But I am not very very lucky. My wife and I planned every step of our life, worked our asses off, and watched all our friends start their own families while we waited in order to be in the position we are now.

And now I'm being told we haven't done enough. We should be ashamed of ourselves that we wish to keep more of what we earn while others go without.

You know what. I love that some of my tax dollars go to people who really need it. But it pisses me off that most of it goes to people that don't deserve the smallest fraction of it. And now I and people like me are expected to do more. To suck it up and take it and feel guilty about not wanting to. Well FUBO and your democrat congress and the leeches in our society that live for nothing more than a handout. Looks like I'm going to be giving you more of my family's income but I don't have to be happy about it.:mad:

And BTW I know that there are plenty of hard-working people out there who have a hard time just getting by from day to day. They do worry about making sure their family has what they need and frequently work multiple jobs to provide for them. Those are the people who deserve help and they should get it.



AMEN! I am in my second of five years of a surgical residency and wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments.

We are living in the pages of The Fountainhead.

[jaydoc1]

AMEN! I am in my second of five years of a surgical residency and wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments.

Congratulations. Hang in there. That's a tough five years but at the end of it you'll be secure in the satisfaction and the knowledge that you'll have the fleas calling you at all hours of the night for the rest of your working life wondering if Mrs. Smith's abdominal discomfort from the hospital food might actually be an acute abdomen. :D

Speaking of which, what the hell are you doing wasting time on an internet forum?! Shouldn't you be chasing down some nursing students to distract your Chief with?

[Mr.Goodtimes]

would it sound like "oot and aboot in a boot"?

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

would it sound like "oot and aboot in a boot"?

You are correct sir! They don't realize it until they say it. It will catch the odd Wisconsineer and Minnesotean everyonce in awhile.

My wife is the physician, and she was at work today and another doc, who is liberal as can be, started to scatch his head and wonder out loud where all the money for the $600b health care downpayment was going to come from. My wife looked at him incredulously and said, "Us, who did you think?" You get a lot of liberals in health care and I think they are going to be as disappointed as the peasants were in Russia after the communists took over.

The linch pin is that medical records program. They need that to control the care. If you can't enter it into the computer, it can't happen. "Sorry budget cuts, no bypass surgeries till next week."

Barry, Barry, what are you doing.

Barak is the messiah, transformational figure, transcendant intellectual that will solve all problems.
Barry is the schmuk who had never had a real job, came out of the corrupt Chicago machine, and is running the "run left' play book on your dime.

Guess which one is actually showing up for the job.