Nowlin Glock Lanyard Plug

[crowkiller]

Anybody here try this plug? Whats yalls opinion?

Back View
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=23971&title=TACTICAL%20LANYARD%20PLUG%20for%20GLOCK~

Front View
http://www.midwayusa.com/Eproductpage.Exe/showproduct?saleitemid=179498

[KellyTTE]

The hole in the back of the grip exists for a reason (to shed debris from the trigger assembly).

Buy a glock, leave it stock.

[DocGKR]

We run plugs in all our Glocks--they work much better that way...

[woodandsteel]

We run plugs in all our Glocks--they work much better that way...

Why?

I'm just curious. Some of my coworkers put plugs in their Glocks. They were advised not to do it. But they were never actually told to take them out. Just wondering if there were any advantages to installing the plug. When I asked them why they installed the plugs, they told me to keep debris out of the trigger mechanism.

[Littlelebowski]

We run plugs in all our Glocks--they work much better that way...

Do they work better or just stay cleaner? Not being sarcastic, genuinely curious. I run plugs in my Glocks as well.

[JonInWA]

Pretty much the main point that I see for a plug is if one's Glock is going to be exposed to fine dust and/or sand, especially high velocity (such as in a sandstorm), where it could conceivably work its way up the butt hollow into the slide and action. Both Larry Vickers' old "shake and bake" test with a earlier production Glock 21(putting pistols in a sandbag with North Carolina sand, shaking vigourously, and then attempting to fire the gun) and the more recent PTOOMA cement mixer test in The Complete Glock Reference Guide (with the gun put into a cement mixer and tumbled with fine gravel, dirt and sand for 15 minutes, as I recall, and then attempting to fire) with a current generation new Glock G23 I think have compellingly demonstrated that forceably introduced foreign material travelling at least partially through the hollow butt/backstrap receiver cavity can inhibit a Glock's operation.

Conversely, Glock originally deliberately designed the hollow open cavity in the butt as drain/egress point for snow, ice, water, and condensate, as a military operator would likely encounter in Northern Europe (remember, Glocks were originally designed to perform around parameters established for the Austrian military).

For the vast majority of us in a temperate climate/environment, I would suggest that the choice of a plug is an aesthetic as opposed to an operational need.

Interestingly, the need of a plug is often posed in the negative-that is If THIS can occur without a plug (i.e., the jamming discussed above), than a plug WILL/IS NECESSARY to preclude it. I have yet to hear, read, or see of anyone (including anything from any of the multitude of plug manufacturers) provide any sort of affirmative proof or tests of performance, scientifically established/conducted or otherwise that validated the use and performance of such plugs.

Intuitively, a plug would seem to make sense in certain environments/environmental conditions (A Glock executive has also told me of a field expedient solution in such environments-simply wadding up masking tape in the cavity, and then sealing the cavity bottom off with another piece of tape).

Otherwise, I'm pretty skeptical of the need or desirability for plugs in a Glock.

DocGKR, when you say that you "run all of your Glocks with plugs and they work much better" begs for more detailed amplification-who, where, with what Glocks, what environments, how compared to unplugged Glocks, in what sort of training/operations, etc.

And, back to the original poster's question, Glocks already come produced with an integral lanyard retention point-it's the hole at the bottom of the backstrap, so the need for a plug who's purpose is to provide a lanyard securing point is redundant-unless you have to (or have a compelling reason to) use a plug; then I concead that it makes sense (especially if you concurrently have to use a lanyard for retention, as plugs block off the integral lanyard hole), although it seems a tad bit expensive for what it is.

Best, Jon

[crowkiller]

I like and use plugs it is this particular model Im asking about it has a lanyard loop built into it.

[021411]

This is the internet and take people's experiences as information only. From reading this thread it seems like no one has experience with this particular plug model, including myself.

Buy it and test it out. If it fails miserably, report back. If it works like it is supposed to and retains your weapon, report back.

I have heard about all of the cons with plugs mentioned in this thread. One thing I did not read about here is the ability to grip the magazine front and rear to facilitate in stripping it out of the gun in the event of a malfunction. The plug in the back will block the rear portion of the magazine not allowing you to get a full grip on the base plate.

[LOKNLOD]

I like and use plugs it is this particular model Im asking about it has a lanyard loop built into it.

I'd be concerned with how it is affixed in the backstrap, as there's a lot of potential yanking force on a lanyard. Does it just have a screw through the existing hole or something? I can't tell by looking but it doesn't strike me as extremely secure.


On the discussion of plugs, the backstrap channel is both an entry and exit point for debris. If a gun spends the majority of it's time in the holster, it's just serving as a funnel for junk. If it's plugged, the junk doesn't get there in the first place.

[k_cheerangie]

I have a plug in both my 17 and 19, I shoot an IDPA match or two once in a while and shoot at rob_s carbine night shoots. i find they really help on reloads especailly the one I have in it is slanted a little so you don't get hang-ups on the exposed gap edges.

[crowkiller]

And, back to the original poster's question, Glocks already come produced with an integral lanyard retention point-it's the hole at the bottom of the backstrap, so the need for a plug who's purpose is to provide a lanyard securing point is redundant-unless you have to (or have a compelling reason to) use a plug; then I concead that it makes sense (especially if you concurrently have to use a lanyard for retention, as plugs block off the integral lanyard hole), although it seems a tad bit expensive for what it is.

Best, Jon

It does seem a bit pricey for a plug.

[crowkiller]

I'd be concerned with how it is affixed in the backstrap, as there's a lot of potential yanking force on a lanyard. Does it just have a screw through the existing hole or something? I can't tell by looking but it doesn't strike me as extremely secure.
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If you look at the Midway pick youll see the allen head screw but it looks like it screws all the way in. Im not sure how well it would be secure for a lanyard also and Im not sure if I want to drop $20 to find out it doesnt. If it is a secure design then Id buy it. Thats why I stated this thread Im hoping to find someone thats tried one.

[NoBody]

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[Aristogeiton]

I think it looks good.

Thanks to the OP for letting me know about it. If I get one soon I'll report back.

[VooDoo6Actual]

crowkiller,

I have the exact model your referring to.

1) I have NEVER had any problems with it causing any mals, FTF, FTE or Mag problems whatsoever.

2) It is secured via 10X32X1/2" Hex set screw that screws into the threaded plug through the Glock Plug Hole (pre-cut from Glock) in the Glock frame. I use "Blue" loctite to give me a secure foundation BUT can be removed if need be. It is molded to fit the contours and shape of the Glock's inherent design. It does NOT interfere w/ Mag/Mag Well etc.

It is an excellent piece of Kit. It is less expensive @ Brownell's FWIW by more than $3.00 or so.

Here's some pics. I hope the pics help you make an informed decision from someone who actually has one and uses it professionally.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/IMG_0350Large.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/IMG_0346Large.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/IMG_0352Large.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/IMG_0351Large.jpg

HTH...


HTH...

[QuickStrike]

crowkiller,

I have the exact model your referring to.

1) I have NEVER had any problems with it causing any mals, FTF, FTE or Mag problems whatsoever.

2) It is secured via 10X32X1/2" Hex set screw that screws into the threaded plug through the Glock Plug Hole (pre-cut from Glock) in the Glock frame. I use "Blue" loctite to give me a secure foundation BUT can be removed if need be. It is molded to fit the contours and shape of the Glock's inherent design. It does NOT interfere w/ Mag/Mag Well etc.

It is an excellent piece of Kit. It is less expensive @ Brownell's FWIW by more than $3.00 or so.

Here's some pics. I hope the pics help you make an informed decision from someone who actually has one and uses it professionally.

[IG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/IMG_0350Large.jpg[/IMG]

[IG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/IMG_0346Large.jpg[/IMG]

[IG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/IMG_0352Large.jpg[/IMG]

[IG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/IMG_0351Large.jpg[/IMG]

HTH...


HTH...


looks pretty awesome! I'm gonna try to get one for my G19. :cool:

[crowkiller]

Thanks HOPLOETHOS thats what I was looking for.

[VooDoo6Actual]

My pleasure crowkiller.