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Saginaw79
03-25-09, 22:02
Does anyone have a good price on the SureFire 1911 Rail adapter? I plan on getting one in a month or so and SFs retail is like $160 and most others price is the same. I thought I saw someone awhile back that had them for $103 or $130
Derek_Connor
03-25-09, 22:19
Does anyone have a good price on the SureFire 1911 Rail adapter? I plan on getting one in a month or so and SFs retail is like $160 and most others price is the same. I thought I saw someone awhile back that had them for $103 or $130


Are you dead set on the surefile rail?
Saginaw79
03-25-09, 22:20
No, any other adapter thats quality would work, or be considered anyway.

Thats just the only option I was aware of for a non railed 1911
decodeddiesel
03-25-09, 22:27
I am pretty damn happy with my Dawson Rail. It is smaller than a normal light rail so you can use many holsters for a normal 1911. It does however require you to use only Surefire X series lights with their proprietary adapter.
VooDoo6Actual
03-25-09, 22:47
+1 on the Dawson Rail.
Simple, robust, well thought out, Dave's good people.
ZDL
03-25-09, 22:55
How does the dawson rail attach to the gun?
the1911fan
03-25-09, 23:02
I have a lightly used one I could sell you for $100 shipped.

Sent you a PM Saginaw79
the1911fan
03-25-09, 23:05
How does the dawson rail attach to the gun?

You have to drill 3 holes in the dustcover to attach the Dawson
ZDL
03-25-09, 23:06
You have to drill 3 holes in the dustcover to attach the Dawson

That's what it looked like. Thanks.
VooDoo6Actual
03-25-09, 23:06
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/IMG_0222Large.jpg
Saginaw79
03-25-09, 23:06
I have a lightly used one I could sell you for $100 shipped.

Sent you a PM Saginaw79

IM sent
Saginaw79
03-25-09, 23:34
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/IMG_0222Large.jpg

Interesting!
KevinB
03-26-09, 12:50
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/Iraq%201911/1911-Iraq022.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/Iraq%201911/1911-Iraq025.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/Iraq%201911/1911-Iraq030.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/Iraq%201911/IMG_3394.jpg


However I now have a Novak rail - it fits the same height as a normal railed frame gun. The Dawson while slick - does require a different holster, as it sits lower.
Aubrey
03-27-09, 11:46
...
However I now have a Novak rail - it fits the same height as a normal railed frame gun. The Dawson while slick - does require a different holster, as it sits lower.

Kevin,
Are you saying that you replaced a Dawson rail with a Novak? Same hole pattern? Thanks!
KevinB
03-27-09, 11:57
Sorry I replaced two 1911's that had Dawsons.

I have a Dawson and Novak rail at home, I will check it out.
DMR
03-27-09, 15:45
KevinB,

You wouldn't happen to have a Beretta 92 at the house would you? I'd be interested in how that Novak rail sits on the 92's dust cover. The Brownells rail says it works on both, but is higher and over all not to my liking. Any how might end up with it on both my 1911 and 92 if the contor is right.
KevinB
03-27-09, 19:42
I got rid of my Berretta in 93 :D
DMR
03-27-09, 20:52
rub it in.
KevinB
03-27-09, 22:14
I'll see if I can find a Berretta at work next week to take a pic on.
citadelshooter
03-28-09, 19:35
KevinB,

You wouldn't happen to have a Beretta 92 at the house would you? I'd be interested in how that Novak rail sits on the 92's dust cover. The Brownells rail says it works on both, but is higher and over all not to my liking. Any how might end up with it on both my 1911 and 92 if the contor is right.

If you mount a rail to an aluminum frame you need to make sure you either 1) know what you are doing or 2) have a gunsmith who is qualified mount it. Aluminum will give under heavy use in regards to the screws. Dawson Precision has discontinued their rail for the Beretta and SIG non-rail frames for this very reason.
DMR
03-28-09, 20:45
yeah, I should most likely leave it as is and get in on the M&P-9's from Todd and Grant. Just hate to add another pistol to the line.... Suppose it will just need to stay as is. My 1911 on the other hand needs to end up with the rail.
R Moran
03-28-09, 21:57
Kevin, always with the cool guy pics!

Bob
lonewolf21
03-28-09, 23:23
you guys doing the drilling yourselfs, how hard is that to do. also, you have to buy the rail and the adapter seperate. how much we talking about here. id like to have one
nfranco
05-12-09, 20:10
So I'm going to purchase a Novak rail to mount to my 1911 and am looking for the pros and cons of the aluminium and the steel versions.

Stainless frame, 5" barrel

Will the weight savings of .8 of an ounce on a steel 5" be that noticeable.

Dissimilar metals expanding at different rates causing problems?

Thank you all, nick
Limey-
05-13-09, 02:32
I had the Novak and have had a bunch of guns with the Dawson. I prefer the Dawson. I got my last one installed and shipped for about $130 in just about a week total turnaround by Springfield Custom shop. Chuck Rogers used to do mine but Chuck is a very busy guy these days. My workgun has the Dawson. Getting holsters Duty and otherwise has never been too tough at all.
decodeddiesel
05-13-09, 12:23
you guys doing the drilling yourselfs, how hard is that to do. also, you have to buy the rail and the adapter seperate. how much we talking about here. id like to have one

I would recommend you send your stripped frame to Dawson. The install is reasonably priced, they did a bang up job, and they had my frame back to me in about 3 weeks.
Stranger45
05-13-09, 12:45
However I now have a Novak rail - it fits the same height as a normal railed frame gun. The Dawson while slick - does require a different holster, as it sits lower.

Kevin,

Can you use the Surefire DG switch with the Novak rail without bending the switch, on my Dawson railed gun I have to bend the switch and they don’t last long after I bend them.

Thanks,
KevinB
05-13-09, 15:14
I honestly don't know.

The Novak on my Nighthawk LAV gun hangs down as much as a Dawson so I tend to think so but no guarantees.
Stranger45
05-13-09, 16:01
I honestly don't know.

The Novak on my Nighthawk LAV gun hangs down as much as a Dawson so I tend to think so but no guarantees.

I can’t remember if the railed frame holds the lights lower, or higher. Maybe some at Surefire will know.

Thanks Kevin.
eternal24k
07-31-10, 22:13
I honestly don't know.

The Novak on my Nighthawk LAV gun hangs down as much as a Dawson so I tend to think so but no guarantees.

going to resurect this thread to ask,
what holsters you using, any light rail holster work?
I am considering having my Valor re-worked with a Novak (:eek:)
Armati
08-01-10, 11:02
Can anyone recommend a good gunsmith for this sort of work? I am looking at having the Brownells rail put on a Beretta 92.

For holsters, I am currently using the Safariland 3285.

http://www.safariland.com/DutyGear/product.aspx?pid=3285

It allows you to use just about any light/laser. The problem with most holsters is they are molded for a single type of light. If you change your favorite tac light you have to buy a new holster.
uniform64
09-21-10, 12:19
How solid of a mount is this? My concern being how little material there is on the dust cover.

thanks
Metallicus
09-21-10, 12:48
Will a surefire DG switch still sit flush and work properly with a Dawson or Novak rail?