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Ridge_Runner_5
04-05-09, 01:12
The Cybersecurity Act of 2009 introduced in the Senate would allow the president to shut down private Internet networks. The legislation also calls for the government to have the authority to demand security data from private networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule or policy restricting such access.

The headlines were all about creating a national cyber-security czar reporting directly to the president, but the Cybersecurity Act of 2009 introduced April 1 in the U.S. Senate would also give the president unprecedented authority over private-sector Internet services, applications and software.

According to the bill's language, the president would have broad authority to designate various private networks as a "critical infrastructure system or network" and, with no other review, "may declare a cyber-security emergency and order the limitation or shutdown of Internet traffic to and from" the designated the private-sector system or network.

The 51-page bill does not define what private sector networks would be considered critical to the nation's security, but the Center for Democracy and Technology fears it could include communications networks in addition to the more traditional security concerns over the financial and transportation networks and the electrical grid.

"I'd be very surprised if it doesn't include communications systems, which are certainly critical infrastructure," CDT General Counsel Greg Nojeim told eWEEK. "The president would decide not only what is critical infrastructure but also what is an emergency."

The bill would also impose mandates for designated private networks and systems, including standardized security software, testing, licensing and certification of cyber-security professionals.

"Requiring firms to get government approval for new software would hamper innovation and would have a negative effect on security," Nojeim said. "If everyone builds to the same standard and the bad guys know those standards it makes it easier for the bad guys."

The legislation also calls for a public-private clearinghouse for cyber-threats and vulnerability information under Department of Commerce authority. The Secretary of Commerce would have the authority to access "all relevant data concerning such networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule or policy restricting such access."

In another section of the bill, though, the president is required to report to Congress on the feasibility of an identity management and authentication program "with appropriate civil liberties and privacy protections."

Nojeim complained the bill is "not only vague but also broad. Its very broad language is intended to confer broad powers." Nojeim also speculated that the bill's vague language and authority may prove to be powerful incentive for the private sector to improve its cyber-security measures.

"The bill will encourage private-sector solutions to make the more troubling sections of the bill unnecessary," he said.

According to a number of media reports, the bill was crafted with the cooperation of the White House. The legislation aims to create a fully integrated, coordinated public-private partnership on cyber-security in addition to pushing for innovation and creativity in cyber-security solutions.

"We must protect our critical infrastructure at all costs—from our water to our electricity, to banking, traffic lights and electronic health records—the list goes on," Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), bill co-sponsor, said in a statement. "It's an understatement to say that cyber-security is one of the most important issues we face; the increasingly connected nature of our lives only amplifies our vulnerability to cyber-attacks and we must act now."

Fellow co-sponsor Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) added, "America's vulnerability to massive cyber-crime, global cyber-espionage and cyber-attacks has emerged as one of the most urgent national security problems facing our country today. Importantly, this legislation loosely parallels the recommendations in the CSIS [Center for Strategic and International Studies] blue-ribbon panel report to President Obama and has been embraced by a number of industry and government thought leaders."

The CDT's Nojeim stressed that are a "number of good things in the bill," including creation of a cyber-security czar, scholarships for cyber-security programs and collaborations between the government and the private sector. While urging Congress to change the bill, he argued that the "problematic provisions shouldn't crowd out the beneficial provisions of the bill."

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Bill-Grants-President-Unprecedented-Cyber-Security-Powers-504520/

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-778

fruitjacket
04-05-09, 01:19
It's all about control. I can't imagine this sort of thing is even remotely Constitutional, but nobody says anything.

bkb0000
04-05-09, 01:23
wake me at the 2nd Coming

neodecker
04-05-09, 01:56
They want to control the flow of information. They already have the media the Internet is the next step.

Left Sig
04-05-09, 10:00
And those bozos in Congress screamed about the Patriot act as a violation of the Constitution, though they still voted for it.

This is much bigger and more ominous than the Patriot act...

Mo_Zam_Beek
04-05-09, 10:42
Only gives additional proof that there is no need for reciprocal language to give the same powers of curtailment to print and broadcast media as they are already in the bag for the messiah and his handlers.

This needs to be defeated.

Saginaw79
04-05-09, 14:23
The government is ever tightening their control of our lives, and pushing us into more tyranny and blatantly violating the Constitution yet everyone seems to ignore it

Left Sig
04-05-09, 14:54
The government is ever tightening their control of our lives, and pushing us into more tyranny and blatantly violating the Constitution yet everyone seems to ignore it

It's bad if Republicans do it - then you get the ACLU, the MSM, and every other left wing organization after you.

But when the Democrats do it, it's OK. Do not underestimate the lengths to which the current administration and Congress will go to grab as much power as they can. The goal is to make it so they never lose power again. We already know they want to make Democrat-friendly labor unions stronger, reenact the "fairness" doctrine to muzzle right-wing talk radio shows, and now this.

Hollywood always portrays totalitarian governments as right-wing - like in the movie "V for Vendetta" or "The Handmaid's Tale". It's always the good liberals fighting the evil conservatives. But in reality, we have more to fear from the left wing. Left-wing totalitarian governments have been responsible for more murder in the last 100 years than anyone else - USSR, Cuba, China, etc.

R/Tdrvr
04-05-09, 17:57
It's bad if Republicans do it - then you get the ACLU, the MSM, and every other left wing organization after you.

But when the Democrats do it, it's OK. Do not underestimate the lengths to which the current administration and Congress will go to grab as much power as they can. The goal is to make it so they never lose power again. We already know they want to make Democrat-friendly labor unions stronger, reenact the "fairness" doctrine to muzzle right-wing talk radio shows, and now this.

Hollywood always portrays totalitarian governments as right-wing - like in the movie "V for Vendetta" or "The Handmaid's Tale". It's always the good liberals fighting the evil conservatives. But in reality, we have more to fear from the left wing. Left-wing totalitarian governments have been responsible for more murder in the last 100 years than anyone else - USSR, Cuba, China, etc.

Amen.

I love this:
"The legislation also calls for the government to have the authority to demand security data from private networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule or policy restricting such access."

Does this mean the Privacy Act won't mean shit?

Avenger29
04-05-09, 19:01
And those bozos in Congress screamed about the Patriot act as a violation of the Constitution, though they still voted for it.

This is much bigger and more ominous than the Patriot act...

You can bet your ass that every one of the idiots in Congress that screamed bloody murder about the Patriot act will happily vote for this bill...

Ridge_Runner_5
04-06-09, 01:35
Amen.

I love this:
"The legislation also calls for the government to have the authority to demand security data from private networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule or policy restricting such access."

Does this mean the Privacy Act won't mean shit?

Dunno, but doesnt that essentially say this law will be without regard to any law?:D

texasrangers
04-06-09, 01:56
They would do it with or with out this act. Nothing is out of view of the almighty State, dont you all know that?

The_War_Wagon
04-06-09, 06:12
It's the "Say-goodbye-to-gunboards-Act-of-2009!" :mad:

Abraxas
04-06-09, 09:08
They would do it with or with out this act. Nothing is out of view of the almighty State, dont you all know that?

Maybe but this would codify it. They may do it already, but at least they can get in trouble for doing so. This takes even that risk away.

CarlosDJackal
04-06-09, 10:32
It's the "Say-goodbye-to-gunboards-Act-of-2009!" :mad:

Or to be universally known as: "The First Amendment Repeal Act of 2009". :rolleyes:

heh2k
04-06-09, 20:39
These idiots in congress can hardly check their email w/o an intern and they want to tell everyone how to run their networks. :confused: It's amazing how these people are experts in everything and know how to do everything better than anyone else. What they don't yet realize is that the more responsibility they take, the less they can blame others.

Irish
04-06-09, 21:30
Anybody know of any countries where freedom isn't being trampled on?

chadbag
04-06-09, 21:39
Check the date of the legislation

fruitjacket
04-06-09, 22:13
Check the date of the legislation

I don't think it's a April Fool's Joke. There are many other sites reporting it.

Ridge_Runner_5
04-07-09, 01:01
Anybody know of any countries where freedom isn't being trampled on?

Canada is reportedly ready to trash it's firearms registration database...

Seth Harness
04-07-09, 01:14
The government is ever tightening their control of our lives, and pushing us into more tyranny and blatantly violating the Constitution yet everyone seems to ignore it


I think everyone looks at the situation like taking on the opposition alone is useless. People dont even think about strength in numbers. But then again, that gets stamped out with the quickness as well. Everyone has to be involved for a change to take affect, theres just not enough people involved to make a difference, in some cases.
Senseless television programing and all kinds of bright shiney media of all kinds appeases the masses and keeps them at bay. "Why fight and ruin all of this stuff we have, its to hard..."
Thats how I invision it anyway.

wargasm
04-07-09, 03:41
Time to knock the dust off the old CB! Breaker! Breaker! Come in good buddy!

Mjolnir
04-07-09, 18:54
And those bozos in Congress screamed about the Patriot act as a violation of the Constitution, though they still voted for it.

This is much bigger and more ominous than the Patriot act...
No, this is not much bigger or more ominous than the Patriot Act. But combined it should make it blatantly obvious as to what's in store for us. Yes, the treasonous rats voted for both even though they moaned (somewhat) about the Patriot Act... :mad:

DavidFourteen
04-07-09, 22:23
FWIW, I sent a letter to each of my senators today about this.