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Nice setup for those who have the cash.
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Noveske/0O2P2338-A-MPL-SPR-BLK-BCKGRND-1028-Stick.jpg
What are we talking here? 3kish?
spamsammich
04-24-09, 00:02
it is listed at noveske's site now.
it is listed at noveske's site now.
I was lazy, I should have put up a link.
http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=r-mplspr-556&cat=82&page=1&search=&since=&status=
How many were available in this run? Only 10 left now...
1022rimfire
04-24-09, 00:16
Anyone know a dealer that will put it in CA legal config for xfer to a CA FFL? If so, please let me know. Much appreciated, Thanks.
Damn!!!! That thing is just sick.
Anyone know a dealer that will put it in CA legal config for xfer to a CA FFL? If so, please let me know. Much appreciated, Thanks.
Buy one now and worry about that later!!!!
Buy one now and worry about that later!!!!
For reals, the worst thing they'll do is cancel your order. DO IT!!!!!!!
1022rimfire
04-24-09, 00:22
I want to!! But I need to let them know who to ship it to!!
1022rimfire
04-24-09, 00:25
Ok, I placed my order, when it showed 1 in stock. Now please help this CA enthusiast out - much appreciated! Hope the order went through!
..... and then there were none!
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Noveske/0O2P2184-A-1028-Stick.jpg
Now "Temporarily Out of Stock"! :eek: :cool:
Stick, how many were available in this run? All gone in half an hour! :eek:
Now "Temporarily Out of Stock"! :eek: :cool:
No temporary anything, they were a limited edition, they aren't making a second appearance from my understanding. Those that have them are part of a small group.
Stick, how many were available in this run? All gone in half an hour! :eek:
It was a little longer than that, I was lazy and forgot to get things posted in a timely manner. I'll go grab a beer or 3 to make up for it. :D
Wow, I'm sure someone's gonna put one of theirs on gunbroker for a hefty price...
No temporary anything, they were a limited edition, they aren't making a second appearance from my understanding. Those that have them are part of a small group.
Understood. Just what's posted on NRW's site. That's all. . .Shucks! :D
No temporary anything, they were a limited edition, they aren't making a second appearance from my understanding. Those that have them are part of a small group.
Was it 20 this time?
SWATcop556
04-24-09, 00:40
Have a few for me too Stick. :cool:
I bet its easier to watch the count-down on the stock when you have your own Magpul lower with the "infamous" chinadoll. :D
Regardless thanks again for the heads up on these. I wasn't able to pull the trigger on one of these (but I did get a BCM Middie and a BCM 11.5 :D) but my partner did so I guess I'll get to own one vicariously through him.
Have a few for me too Stick. :cool:
I bet its easier to watch the count-down on the stock when you have your own Magpul lower with the "infamous" chinadoll. :D
Regardless thanks again for the heads up on these. I wasn't able to pull the trigger on one of these (but I did get a BCM Middie and a BCM 11.5 :D) but my partner did so I guess I'll get to own one vicariously through him.
I'll do better than that, I'll drink one for you out of the highly collectable Magpul China Doll beer glass!!
SWATcop556
04-24-09, 00:49
:D:D:D Well played sir. Well played :D:D:D
How about a photo op sometime of the glass with the lower!
I think the last one went to me! I got a confirmation from Noveske. I never new I could find a credit card and type that fast:D
Does anyone know how many were available in this run???
That is one sweet looking rifle! They seem to have sold out the fastest of the three Magpul/Noveske rifles so far.
Ok, I placed my order, when it showed 1 in stock. Now please help this CA enthusiast out - much appreciated! Hope the order went through!
contact the man at this website http://www.quentin-laser.com/catalog.html he will do it for a VERY reasonable fee, like $15... enjoy the new rifle.
Does anyone know how many were available in this run???
Yes how many????
parishioner
04-24-09, 01:22
Damn, the stock of my magpul moe carbine just went down. O well. Guess I have to keep it now.
SWATcop556
04-24-09, 02:12
Damn, the stock of my magpul moe carbine just went down. O well. Guess I have to keep it now.
You're right. It went down so far I will take it off your hands. How does $500 sound. :D
I could have afforded one and probably would have bought one but I saw this too late. I wondered how long it would take to get on Gunbroker and here's the answer. Personally, I hope that he gets stuck with it.
http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=127713267
SWATcop556
04-24-09, 04:07
I just hope someone shoots it!! It really sucks that these rifles are bought up by people who have no intenion of shooting them. They just want to turn a ridiculous profit because it is a "limited edition."
Personally I would love a Magpul lower as much as the next guy, but a $3000 mark up.............come on.
The sad thing is that someone will fork over the cash.
well
missed another one :(
sure was purdy :p
SwatDawg15
04-24-09, 06:08
I could have afforded one and probably would have bought one but I saw this too late. I wondered how long it would take to get on Gunbroker and here's the answer. Personally, I hope that he gets stuck with it.
http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=127713267
He must be an FFL holder? Not sure how the BATFE would feel about a non - ffl holder buying, and turning it for a 2k+ profit?
Or do they even care?
Missed this one!
Moral of the story, don't sleep... don't work... maintain online presence.
The whole BATFE thing aside, I just think that it's rather crappy. I know that we live in a capitalist society, etc..etc.. but still.
He must be an FFL holder? Not sure how the BATFE would feel about a non - ffl holder buying, and turning it for a 2k+ profit?
Or do they even care?
Missed this one!
Moral of the story, don't sleep... don't work... maintain online presence.
LOL that is too funny. yeah i was asleep. i usually stay up until 12 the latest, so no way i would have caught this one :mad:
"The problem with socialists is socialism. The problem with capitalism are capitalists." William F. Buckley Jr. :D
FromMyColdDeadHand
04-24-09, 10:56
I could have afforded one and probably would have bought one but I saw this too late. I wondered how long it would take to get on Gunbroker and here's the answer. Personally, I hope that he gets stuck with it.
http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=127713267
The one time I go to bed early and don't check M4C. I wonder if Noveske can figure out who the Gunbroker yahoo is and hold his rifle.
This is kind of odd. I bought one of the MPL Reece rifles and cancelled an SPR upper I had on order from early November. Joel called me this week and said my upper was ready, but he must have been working on an old list. I wonder if the clearing out the old SPR orders had anything to do this rifle?
Wicked looking rifle, just the right impetus to get a can.
Looks like an SBR would be the next logical rifle? How would that work with having to write on the lower?
Razorhunter
04-24-09, 12:35
I could have afforded one and probably would have bought one but I saw this too late. I wondered how long it would take to get on Gunbroker and here's the answer. Personally, I hope that he gets stuck with it.
http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=127713267
Good looking out Iraqgunz. WE ALL hope that he gets STUCK with it.
I could build one of those rifles SO MUCH CHEAPER than that it isn't funny.
EDIT: I just confirmed he is indeed a private seller.
All of that aside though, it is a nice rifle, but I would rather have a low profile N4 type bbl profile in BLACK personally. SS is fine, but finish it in black, and give it a LW profile. Even if it is an SPR. A LW profile wouldn't take anything away from it's accuracy really. After all, it's not a benchrest rifle.
Anyhow, I now see why Magpul hasn't released the milled lowers...
Too bad you couldn't score one Iraqgunz. We all need to send that seller on GB an email telling him what a prick he is....
We all need to send that seller on GB an email telling him what a prick he is....
Make sure you forward one to everyone on Wall Street too. :rolleyes:
Razorhunter
04-24-09, 12:49
Have a few for me too Stick. :cool:
I bet its easier to watch the count-down on the stock when you have your own Magpul lower with the "infamous" chinadoll. :D
Regardless thanks again for the heads up on these. I wasn't able to pull the trigger on one of these (but I did get a BCM Middie and a BCM 11.5 :D) but my partner did so I guess I'll get to own one vicariously through him.
Hey SWATcop,
When did you score the BCM 11.5? Was this RECENTLY, or a while back? I've been wanting one myself, and didn't think any had popped up recently, right? Or have I somehow F'd up and missed something????
FromMyColdDeadHand
04-24-09, 15:57
All of that aside though, it is a nice rifle, but I would rather have a low profile N4 type bbl profile in BLACK personally. SS is fine, but finish it in black, and give it a LW profile. ....
When I had my SPR upper on order I had it set up for paint on the barrel. Maybe more tacti-cool than anything, but the bare metal barrel seems out of place.
STICK- What scope is that on the rifle in the first pic?
I like it.... a lot! I think the SS looks sick and makes it different.
I was also lucky enough to pick one up!
Razorhunter
04-25-09, 00:06
Nice setup for those who have the cash.
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Noveske/0O2P2338-A-MPL-SPR-BLK-BCKGRND-1028-Stick.jpg
Which bipod assembly is this btw? At first glance, I thought it was the GG&G XDS bipod, which apparently has an NSN#, via the US Army, however, I'm now thinking it's something else.
What are the forward canting pieces at the top of the bipod for? (the top of which is located directly under the Switchblock) ??? Can't quite determine the purpose of these angular/forward canted pieces.... ??
Jave,
Wow, you scored one eh? Hope you intend to keep it and shoot it. That will be the most accurate rifle you own in 5.56 I'm sure. It's not really "different" however, in regards to the bbl. Noveske has been turning out blasted bbls for years now, and they were his original offering (ie the "Afghan, Recon, Crusader, etc")
I like the look of Noveske SS bbls, but I just think the N4 black series are much nicer on a tactical fighting weapon, IMHO. However, at LEAST Noveske blasts them with a matte finish, instead of shiny SS, like some manufacturers have done in the past.
Right on Paul good to know. Yeah man I was just in the right place at the right time. I was browsing Cals and up popped the notice. When you get yourself up to PA, we'll shoot the ever-loving shit out of it. One problem though... by by SCAR.
Can you elaborate on the accuracy? I'd like to know more.
Also is there a decent scope I could get for btw 1-1.5k? Open to ideas
Thanks!
SWATcop556
04-25-09, 01:20
Hey SWATcop,
When did you score the BCM 11.5? Was this RECENTLY, or a while back? I've been wanting one myself, and didn't think any had popped up recently, right? Or have I somehow F'd up and missed something????
I was browsing the EE on TOS (:oI know, I know, thats really the only reason I go there:o) and a fellow LEO had an unfired one with a Larue 10.0 so I snatched it up. He wanted the LWRC more so he let the BCM go.
I've been wanting one for two years now and it was a right place right time. :cool:
I should have it this next week and I'll post some pics!!
Razorhunter
04-25-09, 01:26
Accuracy should be 1moa or many times BETTER out of the Noveske bbls, with quality ammo.
As for an optic, OH YES, you can certainly get some good quality glass in the $1k-$1500 range. That is THE single most important accessory you need for an SPR like that, in conjunction with quality mags and ammo of course and I would probably opt for something from Nightforce, Leupold, or maybe even a "Like New" U.S. Optics or Schmidt and Bender if possible. I think you could find something VERY nice, and basically "like mint" condition in a U.S. Optics or S&B if you cruise the Sniper Forums on the net. However, there is certainly nothing wrong with a nice brand new Nightforce or Leupy for that price range. I tend to prefer the U.S. Optics and S&B, but they usually go for $2k+ if new. However, as stated, you could easily find something used, but really more "like new/almost mint" for your price range as well.
I'm sure you'll be happy with anything in that price range. You have made a WISE decision by choosing to purchase good class for a weapon of this caliber. It just demands quality glass. Something some guys tend to try and skimp on, which is a mortal sin if you ask most of us around here...
We'll talk more on glass later though. I'll shoot you a phone call sometime this week.
You might as well tell Noveske to ship that SPR to you overnight shipping. I know damn well I would if I had one coming. I mean, what's another $75-$100 or so.... !
Which bipod assembly is this btw?
If I'm not mistaken, that apears to be the BOBRO Gen III Bipod w/BLAC. Rainier Arms LLC lists it on their site but out of stock.
So this Magpul edition gets posted when I am in Kentucky at the Blue Ridge Mountain 3 Gun Championship and the last edition was posted during one of the NFL playoff games. I don't stand a chance in hell to get one of these. When is the next edition going to be posted? Maybe during the NRA Convention:p
I missed again -maybe next time. If I can hold on to my stash of cash :)
There is one on GB with no reserve. I mean you might pay a couple hundred extra but that is not bad right? This is wishful thinking btw.
If I'm not mistaken, that apears to be the BOBRO Gen III Bipod w/BLAC.
Good eye, that is what it is.
FromMyColdDeadHand
04-29-09, 16:16
It would be nice if Magpul set up an email alert for interested people, or at least gave a heads up. It would only help to sell rifles, not that it looks like they need much help. It just seems so random that if you aren't online in a few hour stretch, you'll miss them. Plus, it would give Magpul a list of people to market from.
That is a good idea but email list never work for me. Every time I get one the product is gone because unless you are first to sign up on the list you have snowballs chance in heck of getting something that's in limited run. This has happened to me a number of times and it is more aggravating each time. I think it kinda make it more fair having them just pop up randomly. It keeps you guessing no matter who what. That is just my opinion.
I forgot I had this picture floating around....
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20III/IMG_8706%201028%20WEVO%20Stick.jpg
SecretAgentMan
04-30-09, 16:05
Wouldn't 20-round magazines have made a little more sense for this rifle? I don't own a SPR, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but it seems like 30-round magazines could make it more difficult to shoot while using the bipod.
Razorhunter
04-30-09, 19:46
I swear that those new VLTOR forged uppers that look milled are simply the bomb. Possibly my favorite upper ever produced.
I would like to ask those in the know, how many other Noveske/Magpul rifles have been made before this one?
I know of the one, which had the MOE rail on it, and I don't remember much else about it, but I am thinking it had a 14.5" N4 bbl maybe? Not sure. I do remember them, and I do remember the lowers selling on GB.
However, I have heard of one other, possibly in addition to the MOE railed one, and the SPR that this thread refers to. Was there a third one that I'm forgetting guys?
I wish they'd offer up a 16" N4 RECCE build with the new ACS stock from Magpul. Throw on a VLTOR VIS and I'd be ALL over it.
Of course, followed by a 10.5" - 11.5" Magpul/Noveske SBR build with the same VIS in carbine length rail, and N4 SBR bbl. Now THAT would be uber sweetness.
In my SPR class a 20 round mag definitely was more advantageous than 30rds. It was very beneficial when you had to get down low.
Wouldn't 20-round magazines have made a little more sense for this rifle? I don't own a SPR, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but it seems like 30-round magazines could make it more difficult to shoot while using the bipod.
PC the one you are missing is the recce build. I believe you can find it on weaponsevolution
I wish they'd offer up a 16" N4 RECCE build with the new ACS stock from Magpul. Throw on a VLTOR VIS and I'd be ALL over it.
Its sex appeal would be off the charts, and would look something like ....
Note the mag is a prototype or concept part, and not a production item.
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20III/IMG_8855%20A%201028%20WEVO%20Stick.jpg
Hey! That sure does look sleekly slick with that Magpul ACS stock! :cool:
I think Stickman is either a combination of multiple arms companies, a mythical creature, or has magical powers.
How does he get all that stuff!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Razorhunter
05-01-09, 07:47
Yes Stick,
I knew you would have something to offer up like that.
The only thing that rifle needs is some TD or KAC rail panels, switch to black MBUS's, and maybe switch to a T-1 Micro or RCO M4 optic....
JMHO though. It's SICK in almost any config...
What exactly is "prototype" about the PMAG? I can see it's a bit different, but not sure of exactly how it differs?
G34Shooter
05-01-09, 16:50
I'm waiting for an ACS to throw on my FrankeNoveske build :D
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p178/G34Shooter/IMG1165.jpg
I'm curious why they used H-buffers with this build. Wouldn't that be a bit heavy for an intermediate gas length? I have a Noveske Recce that uses a midlength gas assembly and even that didn't like H-buffers, so I'm curious why it will work for an even longer gas assembly.
On a related note, would there be any issues switching directly over to a PRS with an A2 rifle tube, spring, and buffer for this rifle?
Holy crap the one I got has a seriously low serial number. I'm talking in the 10's. I got really lucky.
FromMyColdDeadHand
05-05-09, 18:05
I'm waiting for an ACS to throw on my FrankeNoveske build :D
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p178/G34Shooter/IMG1165.jpg
Is that the 2-10x24 NF, how do you like it?
I'm curious why they used H-buffers with this build. Wouldn't that be a bit heavy for an intermediate gas length? I have a Noveske Recce that uses a midlength gas assembly and even that didn't like H-buffers, so I'm curious why it will work for an even longer gas assembly.
On a related note, would there be any issues switching directly over to a PRS with an A2 rifle tube, spring, and buffer for this rifle?
What did the H-buffer and Recce have issues doing?
How much length does an M4/SPR flashider/mount add to a barrel? Could you pin it to a 14.5 barrel and get around having another tax stamp?
What did the H-buffer and Recce have issues doing?
How much length does an M4/SPR flashider/mount add to a barrel? Could you pin it to a 14.5 barrel and get around having another tax stamp?
I was able to request an N4 recce barrel with the VTAC/Noveske upper directly from Noveske back before the Great Nobama Gun Run. I put it atop a POF lower to produce this rifle:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e5/jakjakman/Noveske/xNoveske009.jpg
I used an H-buffer instead of a regular weight buffer with the lower when I first began shooting it. I tried both steel-cased Russian 55gr and some Prvi M855. The Russian stuff cycled the gun just fine--no problems with feeding or ejection. The M855 on the other hand, about a third of rounds didn't push the bolt far back enough to chamber the following round in the magazine. It would be bang-bang-click, with and empty chamber and plenty of rounds left in the magazine. I switched the buffer to a regular weight (non-H), and I haven't had a problem at all with any kind of ammo since.
I may be miss-informed, but I've been under the impression that the H-buffers were for shorter gas systems like the Carbine length, whereas the longer gas systems could run into cycling problems if the buffer is too heavy. That's why I was surprised to see they used an H-buffer with the SPR build which uses an intermediate length system (between midlength and rifle).
Razorhunter
05-05-09, 19:32
Holy crap the one I got has a seriously low serial number. I'm talking in the 10's. I got really lucky.
Well considering there were only like 20-25 made, that's not surprising in the least bro. ????
Razorhunter
05-05-09, 19:36
Note the mag is a prototype or concept part, and not a production item.
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20III/IMG_8855%20A%201028%20WEVO%20Stick.jpg
BTW Stick,
What's prototype about that PMAG? I can see it's looking a bit unique, but can't quite put my finger on it. ??? What is unique about that PMAG?
Also, do you have any info regarding the "EMAG"??? I heard Costa at Shot Show this year state "E" was for "European" -Mag, but then someone else stated otherwise on this forum. (can't remember, but it was something like "Enhanced"? or something).
I'm going with what Costa said for now. "European-Mag".
I have also received word lately, that Magpul is now possibly saying that there MIGHT be issues with the new "EMAG" working in the SCAR.
Not sure, maybe it's just the typical tight SCAR magwell issue, but as I said, this is all heresay as of now.
Was hoping you could shed some light Stick?
BTW Stick,
What's prototype about that PMAG? I can see it's looking a bit unique, but can't quite put my finger on it. ??? What is unique about that PMAG?
Also, do you have any info regarding the "EMAG"??? I heard Costa at Shot Show this year state "E" was for "European" -Mag, but then someone else stated otherwise on this forum. (can't remember, but it was something like "Enhanced"? or something).
I'm going with what Costa said for now. "European-Mag".
I have also received word lately, that Magpul is now possibly saying that there MIGHT be issues with the new "EMAG" working in the SCAR.
Not sure, maybe it's just the typical tight SCAR magwell issue, but as I said, this is all heresay as of now.
Was hoping you could shed some light Stick?
Looks like the M revision of a windowed Pmag, you can see the notch at the bottom to attach the dust cover.
BTW Stick,
What's prototype about that PMAG? I can see it's looking a bit unique, but can't quite put my finger on it. ??? What is unique about that PMAG?
Also, do you have any info regarding the "EMAG"??? I heard Costa at Shot Show this year state "E" was for "European" -Mag, but then someone else stated otherwise on this forum. (can't remember, but it was something like "Enhanced"? or something).
I'm going with what Costa said for now. "European-Mag".
I have also received word lately, that Magpul is now possibly saying that there MIGHT be issues with the new "EMAG" working in the SCAR.
Not sure, maybe it's just the typical tight SCAR magwell issue, but as I said, this is all heresay as of now.
Was hoping you could shed some light Stick?
That is the latest windowed PMAG variant. Stick got one or two from the first sample batch to start building photos. They're coming out soon, but please don't ask for release dates - I can't give them.
EMAG stands for "Export Magazine," and was built at the request of a couple very specific customers. It is optimized for foreign weapons, primarily European in origin, that have tighter or somehow non-Colt milspec magazine wells. This includes the HK 416, FN SCAR, Beretta ARX160, etc. The EMAG is also fully functional in standard AR15/M16/M4 weapons. It has not yet been publicly released.
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