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I saw a Canadian Colt AR at the local gun show today. I thought that was interesting. It was just your standard AR but did have 4 digit low serial #'s. Asking price was 1495. I have the guys card, should I buy it? :D
Any info you guys have would be great!
??? How was it marked???
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??? How was it marked???
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It said made in Canada on the lower and had a low serial number ie... 000xxxx. It was stamped with the Colt branding. I think it might have also said Sporter, but I am not at sure about that.
The guy who had it seemed quite impressed and kept pointed to the "Made in Canada" stamp. ha ha he was cool though. I wish I knew more about AR's but that is why I'm here! Thanks!
FWIW:
I have seen a few Italian made M1 Garand recievers with Dane markings way up in the NE US. I believe that they were the real deal.
The border was/is very porous up there. , so who knows?
ETA: A couple of Canadian web sites:
www.vz58.net
www.marstar.ca
Did the receiver have the "Colt Canada" engraving? There are some 6920's out there that have gotten into the US under LEO contracts. They are made in the Diemaco plant that Colt now owns.
Ok got some more info.
It came from a PD
E2 sights
AR15A2/6520 we think (99%)
Colt Defense Made in Canada
Yes it came through LE from the Diemco plant. What do you guys think? Rare? Should I jump on it?
He actually has two.
SloaneRanger
04-26-09, 12:54
Diemaco C8 (SFW)
Known by us Brits as the L119A1.
Diemaco=Canuck Colt now.
More or less the same as an M4 w/ a few slight differences.
Yes..Jump on it if it checks out.
I have to agree with SloaneRanger. If it checks out it'll be a good firearm. I am issued an SFW here in Canada and they are quality pieces. SAS issue them as well. Diemaco is now Colt Canada. Website is www.coltcanada.com.
Diemaco C8 (SFW)
Known by us Brits as the L119A1.
Diemaco=Canuck Colt now.
More or less the same as an M4 w/ a few slight differences.
Yes..Jump on it if it checks out.
Lots of Colt/Diemaco guns out there right now. I have a few.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Diemaco%206520s/IMG_1678.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Diemaco%206520s/IMG_1677.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Diemaco%206520s/IMG_1672.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Diemaco%206520s/IMG_1665.jpg
Lots of Colt/Diemaco guns out there right now. I have a few.
Anyone know if there is collect-ability to the Canadian made here in the US?
Diemaco C8 (SFW)
Known by us Brits as the L119A1.
Diemaco=Canuck Colt now.
More or less the same as an M4 w/ a few slight differences.
Yes..Jump on it if it checks out.
It is a 6520
A C8 and a SFW are not the same model, either.
FWIW:
Another Canadian web site.
www.canadiangunnutz.com
IIRC, the site requires registration for full access.
RogerinTPA
04-27-09, 08:06
Too bad Colt USA doesn't make and market this mid-length heavy barrel weapon. I'm sure they would be a huge hit here. I'd definitely get one or two.
Too bad Colt USA doesn't make and market this mid-length heavy barrel weapon. I'm sure they would be a huge hit here. I'd definitely get one or two.
It is not a mid length, it uses a carbine gas system but yes I agree with you.
It came from a PD.
Have they seen heavy use, or does it look like they just sat in the rack? Gotta take that in consideration too.
RogerinTPA
04-27-09, 10:14
It is not a mid length, it uses a carbine gas system but yes I agree with you.
According to the description on their website, it is, but the picture looks like a carbine profile. http://www.coltcanada.com/sfw-page.htm
Hello Guy's, As you're interested in "Colt Canada" mfg'd AR-15's, you may want to vist the following link; >>> http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=440379 <<< I just happened across it this morning, and from what I'm reading, there may be a batch of Colt Canada mfg'd & marked AR variant's available for sale here in the USA. The model referred to in the above link appears to be very similar ( if not exactly like ) a Colt LE6920 model. DIEMACO, now known as Colt Canada has been producing Colt licensed M16 series weapons for quite a few years now, having provided military contracts to several NATO countries. Their quality is absolutely on par with our domestic production Colt's, and their availability at the present time may help to bring the current market price down to acceptable levels.
Regards, dpast32
According to the description on their website, it is, but the picture looks like a carbine profile. http://www.coltcanada.com/sfw-page.htm
The SFW is a 16" heavy barreled carbine. Apparently Colt Canada built the firearm after input from SF members here in Canada and elsewhere. They wanted the 16" barrel, a better overall fit for their mission needs. The barrel is also made heavier to be more durable. I guess you could liken it to the CLP of the AR world, it tries to fill multiple roles in one package.
I know from personal experience with my issued SFW and other Colt and Colt Canada carbines that this one is the best I've used. It's a little heavier due to the barrel but for my uses is just about perfect.
According to the description on their website, it is, but the picture looks like a carbine profile. http://www.coltcanada.com/sfw-page.htm
Nowhere does it say the SFW is a mid length gas system on their website.
Welcome to M4Carbine.
" ...here in Canada..." caught my eye.
The SFW is a 16" heavy barreled carbine. Apparently Colt Canada built the firearm after input from SF members here in Canada and elsewhere. They wanted the 16" barrel, a better overall fit for their mission needs. The barrel is also made heavier to be more durable. I guess you could liken it to the CLP of the AR world, it tries to fill multiple roles in one package.
I know from personal experience with my issued SFW and other Colt and Colt Canada carbines that this one is the best I've used. It's a little heavier due to the barrel but for my uses is just about perfect.
...." I know from personal experience with my issued SFW and other Colt....."
Sounds like this new member would be a very good source of first hand information concerning the topic of "Canadian Colts".
:)
sundance435
04-27-09, 17:54
According to the description on their website, it is, but the picture looks like a carbine profile. http://www.coltcanada.com/sfw-page.htm
It says it has a "mid length barrel", whatever that is. The pics are definitely of a gun with a carbine length gas system.
CF issued SFW are Carbine lenght gas system 1000 %
I am not sure what the news is on the Colt Canada website...
KPA
SloaneRanger
05-03-09, 17:11
A C8 and a SFW are not the same model, either.
Never said it was. Hence why (SFW) was in brackets.
Never said it was. Hence why (SFW) was in brackets.
When you put something in parenthesizes following another noun, it implies the thing in parenthesizes is the first noun.
Just surfing the net and stumbled across the C8SFW rifle. Essentially a carbine length gas system and 16in barrel made by Colt Canada for military use. Quite interesting, the user quotes I've found seem to love it. I'm not questioning the legitimacy of the mid length gas system but it's evidently not essential for a 16in barreled carbine.
variablebinary
09-05-10, 00:32
According to the description on their website, it is, but the picture looks like a carbine profile. http://www.coltcanada.com/sfw-page.htm
It's not a mid-length.
It's carbine length like the M4, but features a heavy barrel that is 16" long
http://www.coltcanada.com/Images/sfw-annot.gif
Beat Trash
09-05-10, 03:58
I bought a pair of 6920's for each of my two kids in 2006. Went through a LE dealer. One of the guns that came in was a Canadian made Colt. At first, I thought I got ripped off. Called Colt and spoke with someone from their LE sales division.
The only real difference between the US made guns and the Canadian made guns would seem to be the barrel. The Canadian made gun has a cold hammer forged barrel. And the markings are laser etched vs stamped on the barrel.
I bought a 4th gun for my wife. Divorced the wife, kept the gun. I now have US made 6920's in storage for when the kids get old enough. I use the Canadian made gun as a spare to my primary gun.
If there is any collector interest in Canadian made Colt guns, I haven't seen it. Mine is going to be used.
I bought a pair of 6920's for each of my two kids in 2006. Went th
The only real difference between the US made guns and the Canadian made guns would seem to be the barrel. The Canadian made gun has a cold hammer forged barrel. And the markings are laser etched vs stamped on the barrel.
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The Candian LE models do not have a CHF barrel.
Beat Trash
09-05-10, 13:01
The Candian LE models do not have a CHF barrel.
I'm not trying to argue the point. I was informed the Colt/Diemaco made guns used Diemaco's CHF barrels. This could have been incorrect information.
Is there any way to tell? The only difference in the markings on the barrels is the "CC" on the Canadian barrel above the NATO markings, vs. the "C" marking above the NATO marking on the US made gun.
I'm not trying to argue the point. I was informed the Colt/Diemaco made guns used Diemaco's CHF barrels. This could have been incorrect information.
Is there any way to tell? The only difference in the markings on the barrels is the "CC" on the Canadian barrel above the NATO markings, vs. the "C" marking above the NATO marking on the US made gun.
Every LE Canadian Colt I have seen has an regular barrel on it. Unless this has changed in the past half year.
I would like to see a picture of this if anyone can post one.
Besides the barrel, what is different between a Colt M4 and the Colt SFW?
Beat Trash
09-07-10, 12:59
Every LE Canadian Colt I have seen has an regular barrel on it. Unless this has changed in the past half year.
I would like to see a picture of this if anyone can post one.
Best photo's I could manage. Guns purchased in late 2006.
Canadian LE6920 barrel markings
http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae144/beattrash/P1010007.jpg
US Made LE6920 barrel markings
http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae144/beattrash/Colt%20Barrel/P1010001.jpg
Side markings of Canadian made gun
http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae144/beattrash/Colt%20Barrel/P1010005.jpg
When I bought these guns from Phoenix Distributors (good people to deal with) in 2006, I was not aware that Colt had a Canadian facility. I called Colt's LE sales department when I received the Canadian marked gun and asked WTF? I was told that the Canadian made guns are made entirely in Canada. The US made guns were supposed to go to individual officer sales, and the Canadian made guns were supposed to go to agency orders. I didn't ask about the barrels because at the time, I didn't even know or care what a CHF barrel was.
Either way, both are good guns.
Sorry to side track this topic...
Thanks for posting, that's a neat conversation piece for sure!
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