Pistol training videos

[monkeywrench]

I am looking for a good video set for pistol training. Like the art of the tactical carbine. But for the pistol.

[forgiven]

Fighting Pistol by Tactical Response
http://www.tacticalresponsegear.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2343&osCsid=b91e131431ddcdf5a030f442a3de12d9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bybVAMJ6J24

Shooting Missology by Tactical Response
http://www.tacticalresponsegear.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3179&osCsid=b91e131431ddcdf5a030f442a3de12d9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB2IjENrtIo

Loved both, learned a lot from both.

[Shadow1198]

Here's some that I've seen and would recommend:

Close-range Gunfighting by Gabe Suarez:

http://www.paladin-press.com/product/39/24

The Youtube vid is on that page, but it's messed up a bit and the vid is in slow mo. ;)

Inside The Crucible by Kelly Mccann:

http://www.paladin-press.com/product/87/24

I hesitate to mention this but, I think I should for anyone that is truly a student of the handgun. Practical Shooting 1-3 by Matt Burkett:

http://www.mattburkett.com/shop-online?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=1&category_id=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7fRtcAxbOo&feature=related

Just keep in mind that videos from gun game guys are going to most likely have much stuff in them that really doesn't cross over to actual defensive shooting. HOWEVER, for those that are a student of the art, there is still some great info to be gleaned about various things like reloads, shooting platform, etc. Again, tools for the tool box, and not everything is going to be "the right way" for defensive shooting. The main reason I mention this video series is because Practical Shooting 2 has a ~30-40min appearance by Brian Enos, and they go into an in depth discussion about a lot of the physiological aspects behind pistol shooting, fundamentals, etc which I think is priceless. There are a lot of miniscule physiological aspects there which you may not have even considered, but which can have a drastic effect on how well you shoot. That 30-40min segment to me was worth the price alone as it really made me think about what I'm focusing on while shooting, and how I should be focusing. Believe it or not, that can have a huge effect on how well you do.

I've seen the Tactical Response Fighting Pistol dvd and recommend them as well. I've also seen/have TR's Shooting Missology and highly recommend it. I think it is a great vid to show beginners to give them a big head start, and even novices/intermediates can still watch it and learn some new aspects. I've watched Shooting Missology probably 5 times, and I learned a new aspect every time. The best part about it, IMO, was the demonstrations at the end. Actually seeing someone do those things really kind of drove home the point to me that shooting handguns is "easy", and is all about the fundamentals, no rocket science, no reason to stress out so much about it.

[JohnD]

Jerry "The Burner" Barnhart has a good set of video's also.

[The Dumb Gun Collector]

I like the Ken Hackathorn/Bill Wilson vids availible from wilson combat.

[Irish]

Tagged for later.

[the_fallguy]

All of these titles have affected how I employ a handgun to some degree. I think there is something to be gleaned from each of them.

Fighting Handgun by Shivworks
Shooting Missology and Fighting Handgun by Tactical Response Gear
Close Range Gunfighting & Advanced Close Range Gunfighting by Gabe Suarez (Also check out Force on Force Handgun Drills and the Die Less Often series once you are fairly well versed in handling your psitol)
Inside the Crucible & Combative Pistol by Kelly McCann
Martial Marksmanship by Andy Stanford and Mike Janich
Only Hits Count by Louis Awerbuck

I also learned a lot from Andy Stanford's book "Surgical Speed Shooting".

[421mike]

All those videos are great basic learning tool. That said I would spend my money on a couple of good schools or classes because nothing works as well as having an instructor, such as some of those guys who make the videos, who is right there to correct and answers your questions on the spot. Training helps you to learn proper handling and at the same time deal with things such as tunnel vision, correct room clearing ect. jmho.:D

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Watching gun videos to learn how to shoot is like watching porn to learn how to screw, either way you have to get out there and actually do it. :D

[Charles]

http://www.mattburkett.com/shop-online?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=1&category_id=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7fRtcAxbOo&feature=related

"Just keep in mind that videos from gun game guys are going to most likely have much stuff in them that really doesn't cross over to actual defensive shooting"


What exactly is that?




My suggestion is to first learn how to shoot then learn how to "fight".....

[Amp Mangum]

Ron Avery's "Secrets of a Professional Shooter" series is real good.

[Shadow1198]

What exactly is that?




My suggestion is to first learn how to shoot then learn how to "fight".....

Some of the vids I've seen from some competition shooters are made from the perspective of competition like IPSC of course, so there are things in them many times like when to reload, reloading methods, etc etc that may not be tactically sound from a self defense perspective. I only thought I would point that vid out as the 2nd in that series has a really good 30-40min appearance by Brian Enos (he's a very accomplished well known guy in the competition world), and he has a great discussion on some of the psychological and physiological aspects behind running a handgun. I just found it kind of interesting, and it really made me think about things from a perspective I hadn't quite thought of them before. The whole point I was getting at is it's pretty amazing how a seemingly minor change in positioning of your hand, body, even a single digit, and/or even a slight change in what you are focusing your mind on can actually have a pretty substantial effect on how well you run the gun.

[ToddG]

KevinB made a great comment not too long ago about training with people who don't have a "combat" background or perspective. Sorry if I can't quote it word for word but the gist was that you have to filter things. Someone teaching you how to reload the gun faster may be teaching you something really useful, unless the technique relies on something that isn't practical under imperfect conditions (body position, lighting, etc.).

Or take cover as another example. To win at IDPA, you use cover poorly. To win at USPSA, you don't use cover at all. So trying to learn optimal use of cover for antisocial activities from a competition video is counter-productive. But the grip, trigger control techniques, etc. all translate pretty much 100% no matter what the circumstances.