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jh901
05-10-09, 12:50
...and kidney failure. I guess he's not everyone's President?


http://www.breitbart.tv/html/336173.html

DangerMouse
05-10-09, 13:58
...and kidney failure. I guess he's not everyone's President?


http://www.breitbart.tv/html/336173.html

We always knew that the decorum of the White House with Democrats in Charge would stoop to new lows. This level of depravity even surprised me.

Imagine if at Bush’s Correspondents dinner, if one of the comedians had started in on some prominent Liberal celebrity and roasted them or made fun of a drug addiction or wished organ failure for them… and Bush laughed… the press would have had a conniption and would have crucified Bush.

The double standard really irks me.

The_War_Wagon
05-10-09, 14:31
Never heard of her. :confused: My guess is, after reading this thread, I never will again.

Gutshot John
05-10-09, 14:32
If you got thin skin you're gonna bleed.

Mjolnir
05-11-09, 16:04
Can't anyone take a joke? I mean, didn't Rush make the statement "I hope the nation fails?" THAT I take offense to.

I "see" and "feel" the humor. It's no worse than much of the humor of the proponents of the Bush Admin.

All of it is in bad taste, but so is a lot of our humor - especially political humor.

Nathan_Bell
05-11-09, 16:08
Can't anyone take a joke? I mean, didn't Rush make the statement "I hope the nation fails?" THAT I take offense to.

I "see" and "feel" the humor. It's no worse than much of the humor of the proponents of the Bush Admin.

All of it is in bad taste, but so is a lot of our humor - especially political humor.

No, he said he hoped Obama's Presidency failed, as Obama is a socialist and socialism is the antithesis of what the US was built on.

He did not state he wanted the country to fail.

Sam
05-11-09, 16:19
No, he said he hoped Obama's Presidency failed, as Obama is a socialist and socialism is the antithesis of what the US was built on.

He did not state he wanted the country to fail.

Exactly. Conservatives do want obalamadingdong's socialism on the road to marxism policy to fail.

Mjolnir
05-11-09, 20:10
Okay, I gaffed. If he hopes Obama's presidency fails then so does the nation, right? And Rush should be fairly thick skinned as he does hella funny parodies of his own. While I may not agree with him on many issues (NAFTA, Republic vs. Democracy, etc.) he's one very entertaining individual.

John_Wayne777
05-11-09, 20:57
If tomorrow Obama says he is going to rid our society of violence by banning guns, I dare say most of us would hope that he fails.

That's basically what Rush said. In the endeavors where Obama is trying to bring about "change" that will do long term damage to our nation, it is not the LEAST bit inappropriate to hope he fails. I don't seem to recall all this fretting about hoping for failure when Bush was in office....

In short, those whose knickers are in a twist because of Rush's "failure" comments need to stop getting their information from news outlets who spend the majority of their time with Obama's you-know-what in their mouth.

A-Bear680
05-11-09, 21:00
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:D
Political humor is a contact sport.
;)

ZDL
05-11-09, 21:02
Okay, I gaffed. If he hopes Obama's presidency fails then so does the nation, right?

Not even close. I too hope socialism fails. Since that is what Obama is promoting, I hope his administration fails. Miserably. In a ball of fire. Like nothing else we have seen.


And Rush should be fairly thick skinned as he does hella funny parodies of his own. While I may not agree with him on many issues (NAFTA, Republic vs. Democracy, etc.) he's one very entertaining individual.

Rush is radio broadcaster. A nobody. A buffoon. A stain on the underwear of society. Obama is President of the United States Of America. There is a higher standard expected. Period.

John_Wayne777
05-11-09, 21:06
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:D
Political humor is a contact sport.
;)

...and yet if this had been a Bush event and someone had made a joke about Barney Frank being a mincing pervert and if Bush had so much as twitched, it would have been the lead story on MSNBC for a month and a half.

thopkins22
05-11-09, 21:08
I hope Obama fails...as it would be in the countries best long term interest.

But I think Limbaugh is the most insufferable pompous jerk in the world, maybe one notch above Hannity. I also think that if his kidneys were to fail and he was no longer a major voice in the Republican party it would be in the best interest of the conservative movement. I feel the same way about every other personality in the media that extolled the virtues of Bush policies and then exclaim about the horrors of Obama's identical policies. The liberals in the media do the same, crucifying Bush for the same things they applaud Obama for.

People take these things out of context. As a politician do you really expect him to sit there and scowl? Do you think the folks who voted for him want him standing up for talk radio hosts? I would never vote for him, and I don't want him to do that.

ETA: I say that, but I agree with ZDL, there's a higher standard for the office of the president. Very few presidents have lived up to that standard(certainly not Obama,) but I don't think this particular bit is really worth getting our panties in a bunch over.

jh901
05-11-09, 21:22
Isn't someone going to make that point that it seems to be ok to wish for a conservative personality to die, but that had Bush laughed at, say, a comic wishing death to Bill Maher, it would be the greatest offense of all time??!!

Obama laughed at a 9/11 joke and then an organ failure joke.

A-Bear680
05-11-09, 21:27
...and yet if this had been a Bush event and someone had made a joke about Barney Frank being a mincing pervert and if Bush had so much as twitched, it would have been the lead story on MSNBC for a month and a half.

You won't get any argument from me about that.


But , don't forget about abuse of power and position ( not to mention conduct unbecoming ) by givin' it to page boys.
:mad:


On company time.
:eek:

Mjolnir
05-11-09, 22:12
Not even close. I too hope socialism fails. Since that is what Obama is promoting, I hope his administration fails. Miserably. In a ball of fire. Like nothing else we have seen.



Rush is radio broadcaster. A nobody. A buffoon. A stain on the underwear of society. Obama is President of the United States Of America. There is a higher standard expected. Period.

Obama did NOT make the joke... A comedian made the joke.

If "his presidency fails in a ball of fire like nothing we have seen" then YOU fail miserably like nothing you've ever seen. Don't remove your nose to spite your face.

C'mon, guys. Think about this a level or two deeper. I despised much of everything that Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld stood for and always will. But my hope was not for a dismal failure but a unparalleled success (of bringing the nation back to a Constitutionally limited Republic). Yes, they "failed" from my perspective but that was not what I "wished" for.

Mjolnir
05-11-09, 22:16
I hope Obama fails...as it would be in the countries best long term interest.

But I think Limbaugh is the most insufferable pompous jerk in the world, maybe one notch above Hannity. I also think that if his kidneys were to fail and he was no longer a major voice in the Republican party it would be in the best interest of the conservative movement. I feel the same way about every other personality in the media that extolled the virtues of Bush policies and then exclaim about the horrors of Obama's identical policies. The liberals in the media do the same, crucifying Bush for the same things they applaud Obama for.

People take these things out of context. As a politician do you really expect him to sit there and scowl? Do you think the folks who voted for him want him standing up for talk radio hosts? I would never vote for him, and I don't want him to do that.

ETA: I say that, but I agree with ZDL, there's a higher standard for the office of the president. Very few presidents have lived up to that standard (certainly not Obama,) but I don't think this particular bit is really worth getting our panties in a bunch over.

Good points.

ZDL
05-11-09, 22:24
Obama did NOT make the joke... A comedian made the joke.

Who is arguing this?


If "his presidency fails in a ball of fire like nothing we have seen" then YOU fail miserably like nothing you've ever seen. Don't remove your nose to spite your face.


Not true at all. Think about it a little further. What happens if his presidency succeeds? Answer that one. I want you to see in black and white from your writing.



C'mon, guys. Think about this a level or two deeper. I despised much of everything that Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld stood for and always will. But my hope was not for a dismal failure but a unparalleled success (of bringing the nation back to a Constitutionally limited Republic). Yes, they "failed" from my perspective but that was not what I "wished" for.

I had my own issues with bush as well. His presidency succeeded in many ways and we are paying the price for it those areas.

Untangle some of your emotions and try to understand what is right in front of you. There isn't a question to Obama's agenda. He speaks freely on it. If HE succeeds, we fail.

John_Wayne777
05-11-09, 22:41
You won't get any argument from me about that.


But , don't forget about abuse of power and position ( not to mention conduct unbecoming ) by givin' it to page boys.
:mad:


On company time.
:eek:

You're right of course.

I was wrong to refer to Barney Frank as a mincing pervert. That was wrong of me.

I should have said that he is a mincing boy-hungry pervert.

John_Wayne777
05-11-09, 22:47
Do you think the folks who voted for him want him standing up for talk radio hosts? I would never vote for him, and I don't want him to do that.


The people who voted for him did so lauding his ability to bring people together, to reach across the horrible divisions in our country that Bush ostensibly put there and to make for a more harmonious future....

Unless it comes to somebody they hate, in which case laughing at some idiot comedian who wants him dead is really cool. So he's a messiah leading us to a brighter unified future unless you're not on his side in which case your kidneys should shut down. Ha ha.

One can't play messiah and yuk it up with the sanhedrin at the same time.

In the grand scheme of Obama travesties, this is indeed small potatoes....but those of us who are routinely bludgeoned about the head and neck by the dumbasses in the media and in popular culture for being mean, cruel, divisive, discriminatory bastards ought to miss NO OPPORTUNITY to point out the hypocrisy of the "tolerant" and "progressive" individuals who claim to be our betters.

The game is rigged, and we should miss no opportunity to point that out.

John_Wayne777
05-11-09, 22:50
No, he said he hoped Obama's Presidency failed, as Obama is a socialist and socialism is the antithesis of what the US was built on.

He did not state he wanted the country to fail.

The sort of success that Obama and those like him want MEANS THE DEATH OF ALL THAT MAKES AMERICA SUCCESSFUL.

Obama's success = the failure of America.

Thus Obama's failure = a chance for America to succeed.

We'd all be a hell of a lot better off if FDR and LBJ and Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton had failed at a lot of the stupid things they foisted upon us.

TRD
05-12-09, 00:42
The sort of success that Obama and those like him want MEANS THE DEATH OF ALL THAT MAKES AMERICA SUCCESSFUL.


Agreed. Listen to what he thinks about the Constitution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11OhmY1obS4

Palmguy
05-12-09, 08:02
Can't anyone take a joke? I mean, didn't Rush make the statement "I hope the nation fails?" THAT I take offense to.


*sigh*

No, he didn't.


If he hopes Obama's presidency fails then so does the nation, right?

No. Read the transcripts from when he said it. Only an unreasonable person would agree with the statement that you made after reading the context.

ETA: Here's the context -
Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things.

...

We're talking about my country, the United States of America, my nieces, my nephews, your kids, your grandkids. Why in the world do we want to saddle them with more liberalism and socialism? Why would I want to do that?


And Rush should be fairly thick skinned as he does hella funny parodies of his own.

He is.





Obama did NOT make the joke... A comedian made the joke.


Yeah, and really the only thing that I'm truly offended by is that people actually think that Wanda Sykes is funny. I'm not just saying that because of this stupid "joke", but she has never, never been funny. I think if we really want to "torture" the guys down in Gitmo, we should put her routine on a never-ending loop and they'll probably all hang themselves. We need to issue real good hearing protection to the guards though.



If "his presidency fails in a ball of fire like nothing we have seen" then YOU fail miserably like nothing you've ever seen. Don't remove your nose to spite your face.

C'mon, guys. Think about this a level or two deeper. I despised much of everything that Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld stood for and always will. But my hope was not for a dismal failure but a unparalleled success (of bringing the nation back to a Constitutionally limited Republic). Yes, they "failed" from my perspective but that was not what I "wished" for.


Did you want Bush, et al to succeed in implementing the policies that you despised? It is literally impossible for the actions of the Obama administration, in nearly everything they have put their collective hands to thus far, to bring back a "Constitutionally limited Republic" directly. As such, I want them to fail to implement their bat**** crazy plans as they move us the other way away from "Constitutionally limited Republic". This is what I, the posters in this thread who I seem to be in agreement with, and Rush Limbaugh mean when we "hope he fails". The success of Obama and the success of the country are not mutually inclusive; if Obama succeeds in getting his agenda in place, the country fails. That's what we mean. Do you understand this point?

Here are two big ones for me, not even talking about the very easy target of his support for gun control (which I do hope he fails to implement, of course).

1. Cap-and-trade - You should hope this fails unless you would enjoy paying a hell of a lot more for anything energy-related, which, as best as I can tell, is damn near everything...from directly affected costs like electricity and fuel to indirect costs like buying things from other people who need electricity and fuel to make, deliver, and sell their products.
2. Nationalized/socialized health care - Just look at the many problems with the government running (or trying to) the health care industry for everyone in countries like England or Canada. Hope you don't need to see a specialist anytime soon or need dialysis over the age of 60, you may be deemed to have already lived a useful life and you'll just have to rot away. I hope this fails. The damage to our country would be immense.

That's just two important policies on Obama's agenda off the top of my head. There are more. I hope he fails.

Mjolnir
05-12-09, 12:32
"Funny" how the natural extension of the plans that BUSH installed seem to rankle the "conservatives" now that a Democrat is in office.

Likewise when the natural extension of Clinton's disastrous policies came to the fore under BUSH the Liberals were pissed.

IT'S CONSTITUTION & BILL OF RIGHTS OR NOTHING. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.

Palmguy
05-12-09, 12:57
nevermind...

A-Bear680
05-12-09, 15:23
:)


You're right of course.

I was wrong to refer to Barney Frank as a mincing pervert. That was wrong of me.

I should have said that he is a mincing boy-hungry pervert.

I think we are in complete agreement about this.

SW-Shooter
05-12-09, 17:14
Another has been that gets another 15 minutes, F*Ck her.

Mjolnir
05-12-09, 19:48
Another has been that gets another 15 minutes, F*Ck her.
"Has been"? Was she EVER funny?

Sam
05-12-09, 19:53
Last week I didn't know who the fxxk wanda sykes was.

Nathan_Bell
05-12-09, 19:53
"Has been"? Was she EVER funny?

For about 3 seonds in "Evan Almighty", which was about half of the humorous time that movie contained.

6933
05-12-09, 20:34
When James Carvelle(on Sept. 11, '01) said he hoped Bush failed, in front of assembled media, the Lib. media(yes, I can support this fact) did not report his remark, b/c he asked them not to. So, it seems, it is ok for a Lib. to say he hopes Bush fails, but not ok for a Conserv. to say he hopes a Dem. fails.

What has happened in the USA is that neither side will admit if the other has a good point. What has happened to civil(as in respectful) discussion? I happen to think Conservatives are more correct(and there are these in both parties) but I am willing to listen, debate, and possibly change my views.

I say listen to NPR, watch Fox news, listen to Rush, watch CNN, and get a healthy balance from all viewpoints. I just happen to come to informed conclusions that generally agree with the Conservative viewpoint.

I feel the current admin. is seriously offtrack and a threat to the way of life as we know it. Yes, I can informatively back up my mindset. Others may completely disagree.

The important thing is that we keep having a dialogue in which ideas and thoughts are exchanged and considered by the opposite side. Regardless of which side you may be on.

bkb0000
05-12-09, 20:39
i'm getting in late on this one too.. you guys are too fast for me.

i wasn't that offended by the jokes.. i was sort of disgusted that obama sat up there with that stupid grin on his face the whole time.. he seemed like a man that didn't really know what to do, felt uncomfortable with what was being said, afraid of how it would all come out, but not having the balls to do anything other than smile in that nose-up false-ego pose he likes to hold all the time.

i dont know what kind of event this was- maybe it wouldnt have been appropriate for him to say "haha, ok, you made your point, sort of funny, but sort of crossing the line too, so sit down, Wanda." i guess what i find the most offensive is that a president would be involved with an event where mean-spirited, slanderous remarks would be made about ANYONE. for the record, i don't like Rush. he is an ass, and pretty much deserves whatever anyone has to say about him.

but she was wrong. obama can fail miserably and the country not only survive it, but prosper. his approval rating can sink through the sub-floor while the stock-market sores and homes stop forclosing and exports exceed imports... it's possible (just not all that likely). wishing obama crashes and burns is NOT tyrannical, it's not unpatriotic.

Safetyhit
05-12-09, 20:43
The joke was classless. The President should have been above it.

Perez Hilton is human trash with an accepted voice in the media, yet Rush is demonized for much more neutered statements.

Fu*k all liberals.

CALSHOOTER
05-12-09, 21:27
Obama may have grinned and had somes laughs on bad taste jokes, but lets also remember he also throws people under the bus to make himself look good, ie Rev. (Wrong) Wright, Ayers and now Wanda Sick. He in my opinion has some of the same if not all the views of these people. But when public opinion sways aginst him he's for change. Lets remember this, when Robert Gibs was asked about the bad jokes the opinion from him suggested the bus was near.

mattjmcd
05-12-09, 21:38
Okay, I gaffed. If he hopes Obama's presidency fails then so does the nation, right? And Rush should be fairly thick skinned as he does hella funny parodies of his own. While I may not agree with him on many issues (NAFTA, Republic vs. Democracy, etc.) he's one very entertaining individual.

Respectfully disagree. Buying into this vis a vis Limbaugh is less than I would expect from somebody with half a brain. He (Rush) is VERY clear that he hopes the nation will be spared the results of radical leftist experimentation. The nation wins to the extent that Obama fails in his efforts to socialize industry/medicine etc.

DangerMouse
05-12-09, 22:42
Respectfully disagree. Buying into this vis a vis Limbaugh is less than I would expect from somebody with half a brain. He (Rush) is VERY clear that he hopes the nation will be spared the results of radical leftist experimentation. The nation wins to the extent that Obama fails in his efforts to socialize industry/medicine etc.

Exactly, while I may not agree with Rush on everything, I can agree with him on the premise that Obama must fail for the US to succeed.

NIGHT_OWL
05-13-09, 05:50
The dems & all of the libtards in this country not only "hoped" for failure of the Bush Admin, but actively helped it to fail. The wars in Iraq & Afgan are two prime examples! The dems were calling for surrender and later declaring a loss of the WOT years ago! Does anyone remember the remarks by Reed, Durbin, Kerry, Murtha, & Fat Ted? The liberal media leaked classified info and reported every failure they could find. All in the hopes of hurting the Republicans/Bush.

That's real treason! Not hoping a socialist/commie tool who wants to run this country into the ground fails!

Low Drag
05-13-09, 07:02
Okay, I gaffed. If he hopes Obama's presidency fails then so does the nation, right? And Rush should be fairly thick skinned as he does hella funny parodies of his own. While I may not agree with him on many issues (NAFTA, Republic vs. Democracy, etc.) he's one very entertaining individual.

No he did not say that. Rush said that "if Obama pursues a socialist agenda I hope he fails".

Very big difference, I see you've been mis lead by the MSM. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

However, that is not the point of the thread. If that happened with Bush rather Obama, Miller rather than Ronda Sycks(sp) and Al Franken rather than Rush the MSM would have went ballistic. The double standard is stunning.

dodge
05-13-09, 07:12
The way I see it is that both Sykes and Obama have very bad taste in jokes. Also Sykes's career must be going bad as she knew that the media would jump all over this joke and put her name into the lime light again thus boosting her career.

dmanflynn
05-13-09, 07:18
If "his presidency fails in a ball of fire like nothing we have seen" then YOU fail miserably like nothing you've ever seen. Don't remove your nose to spite your face.

Let me ask you then, would you rather have a succesful socialist/marxist inspired goverment or would you rather it fail in the making and go through some tough times to get back to a republic? Dont answer me on that but answer yourself. Contrary to popular belief, the gov. isnt just going to go POOF one day and we all be back in happy land in a republic. Chances are we all will see ALOT of "Failage" before we can even begin to rebuild this nation, which im still not convinced will even happen in my lifetime. My point being, is that i know id rather have his admin. fail miserably and go through ALOT of hardships in this country if it meant that I could help build a more suitable country for my and anybody elses kids to grow up in......

OldNavyGuy
05-13-09, 07:52
Can't anyone take a joke? I mean, didn't Rush make the statement "I hope the nation fails?" THAT I take offense to.

I "see" and "feel" the humor. It's no worse than much of the humor of the proponents of the Bush Admin.

All of it is in bad taste, but so is a lot of our humor - especially political humor.

are you a liberal ? "I hope the nation fails?" Rush NEVER said that.., he said, "I hope Obama fails" ( http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=en&q=%22I+hope+Obama+fails&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=undefined&fp=ICVP5FShbzg ) and i agree with him 100%, if Hussein succeeds, we loose our 2nd amdt. rights along with many other constitutional AND GOD given rights, including the 1st amdt. re: "fairness doctrine", which is a liberal way to curb free speech from our conservative friends on "talk radio"

some honesty here would be appreciated, on a patriotic "Gun Forum" did you really "FEEEEL" you could get away with falsehood ??

Mjolnir
05-13-09, 11:14
Respectfully disagree. Buying into this vis a vis Limbaugh is less than I would expect from somebody with half a brain. He (Rush) is VERY clear that he hopes the nation will be spared the results of radical leftist experimentation. The nation wins to the extent that Obama fails in his efforts to socialize industry/medicine etc.
Not as long as he champions NAFTA, GATT, WTO, CAFTA, FTAA, NAU, etc he sure as Hell doesn't... He may well have many fooled but he hasn't fooled all. Yes, there are items I do agree with him on but if we lose our sovereignty via unconstitutional trade agreements then we'll be in the same situation we're in now. Imagine that! Oh, I also disagree with his claiming that we're a democracy and not a Republic.

Safetyhit
05-13-09, 12:39
Not as long as he champions NAFTA, GATT, WTO, CAFTA, FTAA, NAU, etc he sure as Hell doesn't... He may well have many fooled but he hasn't fooled all. Yes, there are items I do agree with him on but if we lose our sovereignty via unconstitutional trade agreements then we'll be in the same situation we're in now. Imagine that!


You are the dissenting voice of who again? What do you represent here? Based on your other ramblings, Russian interests perhaps? Also constantly quoting global research and it's wack base to confuse those looking to learn something about the important yet confusing issues of the day?

People want to learn here. I don't want to have to call you out in every thread you spew nonsense in. Some of the others may not know better. Stop being a negative, anti-American entity in this forum.

dmanflynn
05-14-09, 19:57
are you a liberal ? "I hope the nation fails?" Rush NEVER said that.., he said, "I hope Obama fails" ( http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=en&q=%22I+hope+Obama+fails&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=undefined&fp=ICVP5FShbzg ) and i agree with him 100%, if Hussein succeeds, we loose our 2nd amdt. rights along with many other constitutional AND GOD given rights, including the 1st amdt. re: "fairness doctrine", which is a liberal way to curb free speech from our conservative friends on "talk radio"

some honesty here would be appreciated, on a patriotic "Gun Forum" did you really "FEEEEL" you could get away with falsehood ??
Yeah for real! Not only will we lose our GOD given rights, we'll lose the right to worship GOD at all! Oh wait, i forgot, this country's been well on its way to that for a while now. Golly dont even get me started on the fairness doctrine, a loada commy crap.

bkb0000
05-14-09, 21:01
Yeah for real! Not only will we lose our GOD given rights, we'll lose the right to worship GOD at all! Oh wait, i forgot, this country's been well on its way to that for a while now. Golly dont even get me started on the fairness doctrine, a loada commy crap.

all i ever hear about is how Christian right-wingism is taking over the country, and must be stopped or we're headed straight for Christian facism.