pmc ammo

[andy t]

What is the consensus on PMC ammo?

[Robb Jensen]

It works, it's on the weak side and pretty dirty.

It's about the easiest to get right now and I've been shooting a lot of it lately since I don't have time to reload nor do I have an ammo sponsor...............ya hear that Black Hills? ;)

[andy t]

Is PMC is about the same as Wolf steel case?
Would American Eagle be considered better than PMC?

Thanks again!

[Robb Jensen]

Is PMC is about the same as Wolf steel case?
Would American Eagle be considered better than PMC?

Thanks again!

The PMC is usually a little more powerful than Wolf and yes AE is better usually. Lately seen quite a bit bad AE and Fed XM193.

[Rampant Colt]

PMC is top-notch stuff!
It's my favorite .44 Mag brass for reloading

[rjacobs]

Shot a few hundred rounds of PMC. It is for sure better than wolf steel case because, well its not steel case, its re-loadable brass.

[VA_Dinger]

I've always had great luck with PMC ammo, but like Gotm4 mentioned it is very dirty. Especially when compared with Mil-Spec ammo.

[Lucky Strike]

I agree with Rampant Colt....their brass works well for handgun reloading (i've used it for .357)...haven't tried to any of their stuff though for rifle reloads.

[Detmongo]

i've seen a ton of it shot it works very well. current lots appear to be much cleaner burning than past lots.

[CarlosDJackal]

I've found that shooting PMC Bronze in an SBR is like pouring a handful of sand into your action with each shot. While I never had a failure to fire, I had extraction problems after a magazine or two.

As best as I can tell PMC uses slow-burning powder and with the short barrel a lot of it goes unburnt and ends up in your chamber and receiver. Outside of the Polymer coated Wolf, this is the dirtiest ammo I have ever shot.

However, it seems to do well with longer-barreled rifles. Take it FWIW.

[RD62]

PMC Bronze has been the easiest to get brass cased ammo in my area for some time. I haven't shot a LOT of it, but the 4-500 rounds of it I have put through my 10.5" LMT and 16" BCM have been fine. No misfires, failures to eject, etc. It is fairly dirty, but that doesn't seem to be a big issue.

-RD62

[TomMcC]

I've chronod PMC out of a 20" at about 3025 fps. Wolf 55 gr did about 2950 fps. To compare with real M193, I just chronod some Twin City from 72' it did 3300 fps, it felt it too.

[HiggsBoson]

As indicated above by others, it is pretty dirty ammo. I've shot about 1500 rounds of their recent manufacture .223 in three different rifles and about 500 of their .40S&W in two different pistols; all with zero ammo-related failures. I never know whether a batch will have sealed primers, visible annealing, etc; some do, some don't. Some batches seem to run hotter than others, as well (although, I have no chrono data to back this up, just my feeling from having shot various flavors of ammo.) PMC is somewhat unpredictable, which is not what I like in ammo I intend to rely on for anything more serious than a rectangular one-way range. I do like to keep plenty around for punching holes in innocent paper targets, though. Just be sure you have something with some more oomph for more serious uses.

[Aggunner]

I shot ~1200rds of PMC Bronze at an EAG class back in march and i didn't have a single malfunction. My gun has about 1600rds through it now without cleaning, only 16 drops of lube to date :)

[Oscar 319]

.233 PMC Bronze, as others have said can be dirty. In my experience it varies from lot to lot. I have shot thousands of rounds of the Bronze with out any ammo related malfunctions. I did notice one batch I bought was ridiculously filthy.

Slightly under powered compared to M193 (5.56), but much better than UMC. The past couple years it has been my "cheap stuff" ammo.....until now;

I just got a Cabela's add in the mail. PMC Bronze on sale, SAVE 15%! $10.99 a box! Are you kidding me? It was good stuff when it was $7 a box, not on sale.

[KaTooM]

I have been shooting alot of PMC .223 55gr Bronze out of my DDM4 16" carbine in the last month. In the last 30 days about 1200 rounds, I am new to the AR-15 platform and just went a little crazy...

When you first see it, it looks clean on the outside(I am used to tarnished and filthy 7.62x51 surplus stuff I use in my M1A) I have been loading onto ten round stripper clips to ease mag loading at the range(10 rounders only in Ca +BB) My hands are filthy after every 100 rounds.

I shoot about 250 rounds per session, and the BCG, chamber, and barrel are very dirty. I run my gun very wet, so that may contribute to the residue. Its no big deal to clean it up with the proper cleaning supplies.

Shooting it: This ammo has had zero cycling problems, I shot 500 rounds of it one day. Grouping was better than the Wolf I tried in my first session with this rifle by quite abit.

For .41 cents a round at Cabela's with two free ammo cans(1200rd) price...I will stick with it until better ammo choices become available.

Chris

[HiggsBoson]

If you buy it in bulk from Cabela's, it's still a pretty decent price. Shipping costs at Cabela's can be decreased by ordering multiple cases at once using their flat-rate $19.95 shipping. This is not true of most other vendors, so if you buy 2 cases, you end up saving more over other vendors.

PMC Bronze .223 prices today (06/19/2009):

SurplusAmmo=> 1000 @ $379 + $32.72 shipping = $412.71 or $.41/rd
Cabela's=> 1200 @ $499.99 + $19.95 shipping = $519.98 or $.43/rd
SportsmansGuide=> 1000 @ $470.33 +$19.49 shipping = $489.82 or $.47/rd
AbleAmmo=> 1000 @ $499.50 + $28.30 shipping = $527.70 or $.52/rd


I just got a Cabela's add in the mail. PMC Bronze on sale, SAVE 15%! $10.99 a box! Are you kidding me? It was good stuff when it was $7 a box, not on sale.

[Oscar 319]

If you buy it in bulk from Cabela's, it's still a pretty decent price. Shipping costs at Cabela's can be decreased by ordering multiple cases at once using their flat-rate $19.95 shipping. This is not true of most other vendors, so if you buy 2 cases, you end up saving more over other vendors.

PMC Bronze .223 prices today (06/19/2009):

SurplusAmmo=> 1000 @ $379 + $32.72 shipping = $412.71 or $.41/rd
Cabela's=> 1200 @ $499.99 + $19.95 shipping = $519.98 or $.43/rd
SportsmansGuide=> 1000 @ $470.33 +$19.49 shipping = $489.82 or $.47/rd
AbleAmmo=> 1000 @ $499.50 + $28.30 shipping = $527.70 or $.52/rd


Yeah, I just bought 600 rnds @ .43/rd a couple months ago. I just about shit myself when I saw $10.99 a box. I live close to a Cabela's. Everytime I would go in I would always snag at least a box or two when they were $6.99 a box. I was OK with that price. But...$11 a box, with 15% off, come on....