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Archetype
05-20-09, 20:04
Revealed at the NRA show.

5+1 capacity, trying to squeeze in one more to get 6+1 capacity. rated for +p and +p+ 9mm

DAO, drop safety.


http://www.tarbox.net/ar15/NRA!.jpg

mark5pt56
05-20-09, 20:10
I would be willing to run this puppy for testing! I can hit it with NATO spec ball all day:cool:
Even give it a treat of some +p+

That trigger looks like it may be tuff for fat fingers, any way it could be set back?

Mark

DocHolliday01
05-20-09, 20:11
Do you have any pictures of it compared to other small framed/pocket pistols? How much are these going for?

hal_5555
05-20-09, 20:35
ohh. i like the looks of that. any range reports?

Kyle E. Coyote
05-20-09, 21:41
Wacky looking magazine. If you could squeeze in a 6th round and maybe set the trigger back (I'd have to handle it), I'd buy two as long as I could get spare parts/springs for it. Looks like it's shaping up to be a great gun, all the rest of your products are pretty amazing.

kmrtnsn
05-20-09, 21:47
What I want is the MSAR .40S&W carbine. When will we see that?

RAM Engineer
05-20-09, 22:19
they just need to run that trigger guard out to the muzzle, like the old Semmerling.

DangerMouse
05-21-09, 14:24
What's the weight? I had a Walther PPK/S - 380, but for it's size... it was heavy... so I sold it and got a Kel-Tec PF-9 compact and it is lighter (a little wider) and more comfortable to carry concealed. I tried my Walther as an ankle back up... that was really uncomfortable... I dont' want to wear a .22 down there if I can help it, so if I could find a light and small 9mm, I would be very happy.

dookie1481
05-21-09, 21:44
MSRP?

Detmongo
05-22-09, 08:11
i can feed it a steady diet of 124gr +p gold dot. but it might be a bit to small for my hands.

Hell_Bent
05-27-09, 11:21
Would be very interested to see how it compares in size to a Rohrbaugh (not to mention the Keltec PF9).

I owned a couple of Rohrbaughs that I wanted to press into service as a "niche" gun. Unfortunately, I broke them both (the second was a replacement for the first from the factory) while breaking them in. The R9's are also notoriously finicky with ammo (read: Shoot silvertips or nothing at all).

If these can hold up where the R9's couldn't, and approach the same size footprint, I'd be very interested.

CLHC
05-27-09, 11:29
Saw the brief "skinny" off another forum:

Caliber 9x19
Capacity 5+1
Operation Double Action Only, Passive Striker Block, No Magazine Disconect
Barrel 2.32"
OA Length 5.44"
Height 3.93"
Slide width .88"
Weight 7.1 Oz
Grip Textured Polymer
Sights Fixed, optional Tritium Sights
Finish Tactical Black textured Polymer Frame
Magazine (2) 5rd Amber Translusent

350-1-MCP Standard Barrel $485
350-1R-MCP Standard Barrel and Rail $485
350-1-MCP-0 Standard Barrel Tritium Sights $585
350-1R-MCP-0 Standard Barrel Tritium Sights and Rail $585

CarlosDJackal
05-27-09, 16:22
Any idea what the trigger pull and MSRP is?

Archetype
05-28-09, 07:21
I haven't been answering questions because I'm not 100% sure about all the specs...I'm not an engineer. I don't want misinformation about the Archangel going around.

kmrtnsn
05-28-09, 22:33
Can you answer any questions about the pistol calibre carbines? Where are they? When?

grimm
05-29-09, 14:11
Very nice, do you have a pic of it beside a PM9 or any other pistol for that matter for visual reference?

Buckshot TX
05-29-09, 17:50
Saw the brief "skinny" off another forum:

Caliber 9x19
Capacity 5+1
Operation Double Action Only, Passive Striker Block, No Magazine Disconect
Barrel 2.32"
OA Length 5.44"
Height 3.93"
Slide width .88"
Weight 7.1 Oz
Grip Textured Polymer
Sights Fixed, optional Tritium Sights
Finish Tactical Black textured Polymer Frame
Magazine (2) 5rd Amber Translusent

350-1-MCP Standard Barrel $485
350-1R-MCP Standard Barrel and Rail $485
350-1-MCP-0 Standard Barrel Tritium Sights $585
350-1R-MCP-0 Standard Barrel Tritium Sights and Rail $585

Uh, that's about the size of an LCP & a hair lighter - GREAT GOOGAMOOGA!

gunwriter
05-30-09, 00:01
I played with it at NRA and it looks cool.
Trigger is pretty nice.
But the grip frame seems really long and it did not fit my hand at all.

Archetype
05-30-09, 11:06
Can you answer any questions about the pistol calibre carbines? Where are they? When?

They're still a few months out...some major changes to them were made since SHOT 2008. They will be well worth the wait though.

kmrtnsn
05-30-09, 14:50
Thanks Archetype! I thought that maybe MSAR was pulling a Magpul/Bushmaster Masada on us; tease with a product then never make it available.

Having carried an AUG as a patrol rifle in the past I am interested in the AUG type clear AR mags, any news on those?

trio
05-30-09, 15:29
and what is ETA on this little jewel?

never been a big fan of .380/...so this would fill the role for me that the LCP has filled for so many others

tpd223
05-30-09, 22:38
Holy crap that is going to be a snappy kicking little gun.

Archetype
06-01-09, 09:44
Thanks Archetype! I thought that maybe MSAR was pulling a Magpul/Bushmaster Masada on us; tease with a product then never make it available.

Having carried an AUG as a patrol rifle in the past I am interested in the AUG type clear AR mags, any news on those?


The XM30 AR-15 mags? They're in production. I'd provide some links to buy them but I'm at school and just about everything is blocked. Try giving ratworx a call, they usually have everything MSAR in stock.

www.ratworxusa.com

Can't give an ETA right now...if I had to guess I'd say about the same time the pistol caliber carbines come out, since they'll be made at the same facility.

markm
06-01-09, 09:50
I'll never understand the allure of novelty guns. :rolleyes:

Although at least it's not chambered in the pathetic .380 acp round.

ra2bach
06-02-09, 12:04
I'll never understand the allure of novelty guns. :rolleyes:

Although at least it's not chambered in the pathetic .380 acp round.

I'm guessing you're not the little umbrellas in your fruity cocktail type either, are you...

;)

M&P45
06-03-09, 11:40
Pics and inf here... Click here! (http://www.tactical-life.com/online/products/microtech-archangel/?hp=products_title)

M&P45
06-03-09, 11:44
Lipsey's has them listed. MSRP looks good if this turns out to be a winner...

Click and scroll down (http://www.lipseys.com/itemfinder.aspx?mfg=Microtech+Small+Arms+Research)