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MAX100
06-07-09, 20:29
Choate's New Tactical 700 BDL stock.


The Specs:

The stock is made of Rynite polymer and is injection-molded around a precision CNC machined full length aluminum bedding block makes a solid rigid stock. The action is rigidly held by the V-shape aluminum bedding block, the barrel floats freely and it features a 1.25" thick rubber recoil pad that has two LOP adjustment spacers. The two removable .25" & .5" spacers enable increasing the length of pull from 12.5" to 13.25". The forend has a 1.25" (3.2 cm) barrel channel for custom bull barrels. The bottom forend is a wide 2.4" and has a 10.5 rail that accepts a bipod adapter that's supplied. Recessed Uncle Mike's sling swivels are incorporated on both sides of the forend and both sides of the butt stock which provide for a number of practical carry modes. Retail price around $225. Also offered for the Savage 10 DBM rifles. Will not fit the AccuStock rifles unless you do some widening of the trigger guard inlet.

Weight: 3.7 lbs

Pictures, a Few Thoughts & Facts:

There are not any good pictures available on the net that shows what this stock really looks like in person. The pictures that are available make it look thin, cheap & unappealing. It's far from it in my opinion as you will see by the pictures.



Choate Tacical stock, Remington 700 SPS Tactical 20" bbl, 308, Sightron SIII 6-24X50 LR MD, Burris XTR Low rings, EGW 20moa base, Harris Notched Leg 6"-9" bipod, BlackHawk cheek pad, Arms Tech LLC Mag Xtender.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii299/MAX100/CHOATE700T-1.jpg

The Stock was a drop in fit and it took less than 5 mins to install. No fitting was required and the aluminum bedding block didn't need any clean up that is needed on some B&C and HS Precision stocks. Fiberglass molding can be very messy. Weather this will be the case with all of them, only time will tell. One problem I did run into is, the stock is thicker in the rear and will required a longer screw. Luckily I had a B-Square 700 BDL/ADL replacement screw set. It had a longer rear screw that was a perfect fit. This is an issue that Choate needs to address by offering a longer screw with the stock because the rear factory screw is clearly too short for this stock. Overall the stock was a nice fit and the back of the recoil lug fit snug against the Aluminum block, which is what you want.


http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii299/MAX100/CHOATE700T-2.jpg



A top view of the stock shows the with wide 1.25" barrel channel and very thick sides. This stock is well made, heavy & built like a tank as you will see. I gave the butt of the stock a few good whacks with a hammer with no damage what so ever. Try that with a fiberglass stock.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii299/MAX100/CHOATE700T-7.jpg


A view of the bottom of the forend with the 10.5" rail & bipod sling adapter supplied. The adapter slides freely in the channel and is locked down when you attach a bipod and torque it down tight in the position you prefer.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii299/MAX100/CHOATE700T-6.jpg


A look inside the at the V-Shape aluminum bedding block. It naturally centers the action and makes sure the action has full contact with the block. It's also great for those who would like to bed the action. The V-Shape block would be excellent for holding a good amount of bedding compound for a perfect fit.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii299/MAX100/CHOATE700T-5.jpg


SxS look @ the Choate Tactical beside a $400 HS Precision vertical grip stock. You can see that the grip of the stock is very large and some may find that it is a little too large for their liking. This is something to consider before purchasing.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii299/MAX100/CHOATE700T-4.jpg


Another view of the two stocks SxS. The middle of the grip is about the same width as the one on the HS stock. It's the bottom of the grip that is much large where you put your ring and little finger and this makes the grip feel larger. Notice the thickness of the Choate stock compared to the HS stock and the HS stock is no wimp in it's on right. The thickness of the tough Rynite polymer it's made of makes it virtually indestructible. The Choate Tactical stock is well made & built like a tank. Choate Stock Weight: 3.7 lbs - HS Stock: 2.5 lbs

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii299/MAX100/CHOATE700T-3.jpg


The last view of the Choate stock on a 700 Tactical. The recoil pad is nicer than most pads that comes on much more expensive stocks.


http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii299/MAX100/CHOATE700T-8.jpg


Final Thoughts:

The New Choate Tactical stock is well made and offers a lot for the money. It is made of virtually indestructible Rynite polymer. Being a plastic stock and heavy will turn some people in the other direction from the get go. This stock is different from other plastic stocks as shown. The lower cost of the stock will offer a good alternative for those on a budget. I feel for the most part Choate did a very good job on this stock.

I would be willing to bet that Savage will be offering these stocks next year on some of their tactical precision rifles, maybe even Remington.



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Shadow1198
06-08-09, 21:39
I've actually seen a Savage 10FP with that same Choate stock at the store I work. It was a new factory gun (as in not modified), though I don't see it listed on Savage's website so it may be really new or just uncommon. For the price (I think it was ~$699 and was a .308) I think it was pretty decent. It certainly looked cool, which is of course the most important factor as we all know. ;)

Oh, BTW, nice review. :)

wild_wild_wes
06-15-09, 22:42
That Rynite is some heavy stuff!

tylerw02
07-01-09, 14:48
At 3.7lbs they can keep them!

Guess they will never lose their reputation of making over-sized, heavy stocks for mall-ninjas.

I suppose Manners will keep getting my money.

MAX100
07-01-09, 15:36
At 3.7lbs they can keep them!

Guess they will never lose their reputation of making over-sized, heavy stocks for .

I suppose Manners will keep getting my money.


Whats your opinion on the McMillan A5 stock. It tips the scale @ 4.4 lbs. The B&C Tactical Model 2097 weights about the same as the Choate Tactical also.


Mall-Ninja Stock- What Mall have you been hanging out at. The Choate Tactical stock looks like a McMillan A5 stock. The Chaote has more features.

A4 Stock By McMillam Picture:

http://www.snipercountry.com/graphics/McMillanA5_Stock.jpg

Chaote Tactical Stock:

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii299/MAX100/CHOATE700T-2.jpg


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tylerw02
07-01-09, 16:10
Your picture you've linked appears to be an A5, not an A4. You can get an A4 or A5 that is lighter, with "EDGE" technology. However, they are much to heavy in standard configuration. It makes for a very heavy rifle.

Anything that makes a rifle unnecessarily heavy is bad for the grunt. The load is more than enough, without adding weight to a rifle that makes it difficult to shoot in various shooting positions.

I don't see any features the Choate has over a Mickey that makes it worth having around.

The Manners T2/T4 is a much better stock than either weighing in around two lbs depending on options.

MAX100
07-01-09, 16:51
I don't see any features the Choate has over a Mickey that makes it worth having around.

The MsMillan A5 can be made as light as 2.5 lbs but you take way some of it's durability. There are other ways to save on weight on a precision rifle setup. Aluminum rings and base...ect

Tougher than fiber glass, aluminum bedding V-block and only needs to be skim bedded at most, side sling swivels for those who care, rail under the forend to postion the bipod where you want it, it cost around $500 less.


The Aluminum bedding bedding block allows you to be able to torque the action screws up to 65 in/lbs or more. That gives you leeway to torque the action screws to get the a particular torque your rifle likes.

Hey I say stay with Manners if you are happy.


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tylerw02
07-01-09, 17:10
The MsMillan A5 can be made as light as 2.5 lbs but you take way some of it's durability. There are other ways to save on weight on a precision rifle setup. Aluminum rings and base...ect

Tougher than fiber glass, aluminum bedding V-block and only needs to be skim bedded at most, side sling swivels for those who care, rail under the forend to postion the bipod where you want it, it cost around $500 less.


The Aluminum bedding bedding block allows you to be able to torque the action screws up to 65 in/lbs or more. That gives you leeway to torque the action screws to get the a particular torque your rifle likes.

Hey I say stay with Manners if you are happy.


GC

Quite frankly, you're misinformed. Lighter does not mean weaker. Manners have been proven time and time again to be some of the strongest stocks in the world, while remaining light.

http://www.mannersstocks.com/sitebuilder/images/stockkkk-595x346.png

There is only one good place to place a bipod, so that is a pretty moot point.

Saving a few ounces of weight on aluminum rings vs steel rings is another moot point because there isn't enough difference to matter. Saving a couple ounces isn't comparable to two pounds worth of difference on a stock.

Any pillar bedded stock can be torqued to the magical 65 in-lbs, so that is another moot point.

Aluminum bedding blocks are a generic way to bed a rifle. I've had no less than half a dozen aluminum bedded stocks personally, as well as bedded several for others and not one barreled action shot better (or even as good) before a full bedding job.

No two actions survive the heat-treating process the same and therefore have different dimensions; this is completely ignoring the manufacturing tolerances. Combine that with the tolerances of the stock maker and you'll never get two that will perform the best without a real bedding job.

The proof is in that the world's best rifle builders choose to pillar and glass-bed every rifle that goes out their door.

I'm not suggesting the Choate stock doesn't meet some people's needs for those on a budget, but their work isn't anywhere near the same league as Manners, McMillan, or some of the other guys'.

MAX100
07-01-09, 18:21
Lighter does mean less durable with McMillan stocks and most others.


I don't like the looks of Manners stocks. If you are happy that's good for you. The Manners are good for those on a budget also, compared the McMillam and others. They can be had in unfinished condition.

The stock in the picture wouldn't be usable after that treatment so it doesn't mean anything.


This thread is about the New Chaote Tactical Stock. If you have any experience with them or any info to add to this thread it would be appreciated. I will be glad to answer any questions you have on them also, if I can.


Have a Good One!


GC

tylerw02
07-01-09, 23:07
I've added plenty of information for a stock purchaser to consider. Thanks for being courteous.

Falboy
07-02-09, 10:05
Anybody have an item # fro the Savage with that stock. I just want something budget friendly for playing subsonic.

Cheers,

Fred

MAX100
07-03-09, 18:31
Anybody have an item # fro the Savage with that stock. I just want something budget friendly for playing subsonic.



I believe Cabela's is the only one that has them right now.

Read this link: Good pictures of the Savage rifle you are interested in.

http://www.snipercentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25059


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