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Zak Smith
01-19-07, 19:20
http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-UBR/smaller/D100_8886_img.jpg (http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-UBR/?small=D100_8886_img.jpg) [ link to LARGER image ] (http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-UBR/?small=D100_8886_img.jpg)
http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-UBR/smaller/D100_8898_img.jpg (http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-UBR/?small=D100_8898_img.jpg) [ link to LARGER image ] (http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-UBR/?small=D100_8898_img.jpg)
http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-UBR/smaller/D100_8936_img.jpg (http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-UBR/?small=D100_8936_img.jpg) [ link to LARGER image ] (http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-UBR/?small=D100_8936_img.jpg)
http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-UBR/smaller/D100_8937_img.jpg (http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-UBR/?small=D100_8937_img.jpg) [ link to LARGER image ] (http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-UBR/?small=D100_8937_img.jpg)
http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-UBR/smaller/D100_8963_img.jpg (http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-UBR/?small=D100_8963_img.jpg) [ link to LARGER image ] (http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-UBR/?small=D100_8963_img.jpg)
http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-Lower/smaller/D100_8631_img.jpg (http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-Lower/?small=D100_8631_img.jpg) [ link to LARGER image ] (http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-Lower/?small=D100_8631_img.jpg)
http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-Lower/smaller/D100_8938_img.jpg (http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-Lower/?small=D100_8938_img.jpg) [ link to LARGER image ] (http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-Lower/?small=D100_8938_img.jpg)

DrMark
01-19-07, 19:35
I really like that lower...

:cool:

USMC03
01-19-07, 19:45
Very nice. What are your initial thoughts of the UBR compared to the M93B?



Jeff

Zak Smith
01-19-07, 20:31
The UBR makes the M93 look like it was designed by a 4-year-old. And I'm a huge fan of the M93. ;)

Logic
01-19-07, 21:06
Would you say the UBR has the same width as the CTR or is it slightly wider?

Dave L.
01-19-07, 21:12
Do you have details on that FDE coating Magpul used?

MH64
01-19-07, 22:09
When, when, when???

Resq47
01-19-07, 22:44
Nice, if the lowers are sold in FDE that saves me some fumes and work ;)

Crash
01-20-07, 14:39
Those are some good pics. Also, thank you for always posting high res images. When I'm considering new products, I seldom have the oppurtunity to see the product before purchasing, so I rely on internet feed back and good pictures. Those two only take you so far, as using the product is the only true test, but having high quality photos always makes it easier to "pull the trigger" on a new purchase.

Any update on when we can order these new lowers?

NickB
01-20-07, 14:43
Any update on when we can order these new lowers?

The lowers are being cut as I type this, but Magpul needs to get its insurance squared away before sending any out. The insurance Magpul currently has covers us making firearms for our personal use, but not sales. Once that is taken care of, we're good to go.

M4arc
01-20-07, 16:16
Oh Dear God, I just found my next lower receiver!

Where's my credit card...

altav
01-20-07, 16:24
Very, very nice... :D

Stickman
01-20-07, 17:10
Looks good Zak.

9DivDoc
01-20-07, 18:13
Very nice pics Zak..great job...

Grant....please put me on the list for one of those lowers....

RAM Engineer
01-20-07, 19:57
Will they be sold stripped or complete?

NickB
01-20-07, 20:07
Will they be sold stripped or complete?

I'm not sure, to be honest. They will all use the Norgon Ambi-catch, I know that, but whether or not they will be sold stripped, complete, or complete with a MIAD and stock of your choice I don't yet know. I'll talk to Drake on Monday to see if he has any more info for me, and report back.

Zak Smith
01-20-07, 20:17
Is it impossible to remove the bolt-catch pin?

NickB
01-20-07, 20:19
Is it impossible to remove the bolt-catch pin?

I'm not sure.

Logic
01-20-07, 21:50
Please confirm if the area where the buffer tube is on the UBR is wider or the same as the CTR?

NickB
01-20-07, 21:52
Please confirm if the area where the buffer tube is on the UBR is wider or the same as the CTR?

I sent an email to one of the engineers but he hasn't gotten back to me yet. I believe they are about the same, but the ACR-type cheek weld may be a bit wider than the CTR. Either way, they are both significantly thinner than the M93.

Logic
01-20-07, 22:06
Ok. Thank you.

NickB
01-20-07, 22:34
Direct copy and paste from email:

Hey Nick,

Both take the same butt-pad so they are approximately equivalent in any
practical sense.

UBR:
1.680" Max width (Slightly down from receiver ext centerline on butt-plate)
1.847" Max width (Using ACR-type Cheek-piece)

CTR:
1.703" Max width (Slightly down from receiver ext centerline on butt-plate)

Eric

Logic
01-21-07, 04:04
Very nice. Without the cheek-piece, the UBR is even slightly slimmer.

twl
01-21-07, 12:14
How much lighter weight is this UBR, than the CTR ?

NickB
01-21-07, 13:10
How much lighter weight is this UBR, than the CTR ?

UBR is approx. 1.25 pounds, CTR is about .785 pounds.

Impact
01-21-07, 16:23
very very nice....that UBR is gonna be a hit for sure..even more than the PSS and CTR I think...

DrDrake
01-25-07, 12:03
Is it impossible to remove the bolt-catch pin?

I'm sure you read this somewhere else already Zak but the bolt catch pin is held in by a set screw. The hole has been tapped and makes for easy remove/install. The rear detent pin spring hole is also tapped. Just cut the spring down, install the takedown pin, install the take down detent pin, install the take down detent spring, install our new set screw and bada bing, no more spring flying to the depths of where ever. Why noone did this before, I don't know. Makes things pretty easy though.

Mike91A
01-25-07, 18:40
I think someone already asked . If ( when) I buy a lower and UBR in the FDE will I be able to get info/paint to match my upper to the lowers color?

DrDrake
01-25-07, 21:20
We have not nailed down what we are going to do with the coating of the lowers. When we do I'll pass it on here. I'm sure we will make it public what colors we're using so you can match it up.


I think someone already asked . If ( when) I buy a lower and UBR in the FDE will I be able to get info/paint to match my upper to the lowers color?

Crash
01-30-07, 21:24
Any update on an expected release date for the Magpul Lower Receiver?

Thanks

DANGER CLOSE
01-31-07, 01:31
new guy, first post. i would really like to see the stripped option. that would allow us to build our rifle to our specifications. i have three ar rifles that i have built from stripped receivers. saves a bit of money too. i would rather spend the money on optics and accessories. maybe even some spare ar parts.

Dave L.
01-31-07, 04:52
D.c.

Welcome!

Bolt_Overide
01-31-07, 12:42
That stock is definitly an improvement over the 93.

Paulinski
01-31-07, 13:53
Both the lower and stock look very promising. I'll take a UBR in tan. :D

Glockster35
01-31-07, 14:32
I would love to know the cost and color choices of these lowers.

I don't see how the UBR can be better than the 93B, my 93B is the best stock I have ever used...I will have to wait and see how it plays out!

Obiwan
01-31-07, 14:45
"The insurance Magpul currently has covers us making firearms for our personal use"

So...maybe you could put me on the payroll for a few days

Maybe in charge of shoveling this new snow

And pay me with a lower:D

rayray
01-31-07, 20:39
Sweet lower.

DrDrake
02-01-07, 14:10
Well, I know for the die hard fans of the M93 it is going to be a hard sell to convince that the UBR is the shiz. Trust me, I'm as anxious to get one and I LOVE the M93 series. We're still pumping away and getting closer every day. Still looking at Arp. time frame.



I don't see how the UBR can be better than the 93B, my 93B is the best stock I have ever used...I will have to wait and see how it plays out!

Zak Smith
02-01-07, 14:27
Give it a chance. The UBR rocks the M93.

Glockster35
02-01-07, 16:14
Man, that must suck to work there and still not even have a UBR of your own to play with...

I probably won't buy a UBR, that is unless for some strange reason MagPul decides to offer a trade in to credit you a fair amount for the UBR. Then, and even then, I would really have to think about it.

But I don't see any reason for MagPul to do this, the M93 is an excellent stock, and probably didn't need to be replaced, although I do understand it is very difficult and costly for them to manufacture it.

rayray
02-01-07, 22:08
Where could somebody pick up one of these lowers?

Glockster35
02-02-07, 12:25
They aren't for sale (YET)

Sid Post
02-10-07, 11:29
When are they projected to go on sale? What is the target "street" price?

TIA!

Stickman
02-10-07, 14:05
Well, I know for the die hard fans of the M93 it is going to be a hard sell to convince that the UBR is the shiz. Trust me, I'm as anxious to get one and I LOVE the M93 series. We're still pumping away and getting closer every day. Still looking at Arp. time frame.


It won't be hard to convince them if they actually try shooting it. Its not even a close contest IMO. :)

DrDrake
02-13-07, 13:19
UBR
April
$245


When are they projected to go on sale? What is the target "street" price?

TIA!

Hawkeye
02-13-07, 13:28
April
$245

D, I think the poster in question was referring to the lowers, not the UBR.

DrDrake
02-13-07, 14:31
Lower is Apr. and unk price yet. We're trying to decide if we want to sell it stripped or with the parts kits, CTR, buffer tube and MIAD.


D, I think the poster in question was referring to the lowers, not the UBR.

Hawkeye
02-13-07, 14:35
Lower is Apr. and unk price yet. We're trying to decide if we want to sell it stripped or with the parts kits, CTR, buffer tube and MIAD.

Would it be feasible to do it both ways? Or does that just present too many logistical issues?

Soulrack223
02-13-07, 15:39
How about offering them like the Noveske Rifleworks lowers with tubes and all LP's but the trigger group. That way people can choose their butt stock (CTR, PRS, SOPMOD) and trigger group (Standard or Knight, Geissele). Plus it'll already have an ambi safety, MIAD and the Norgon ambi catch. That would minimize LP cast off and make the package really attractive IMO.

Zak Smith
02-13-07, 15:44
Will the non-modular JP triggers fit in the lowers, or is the outer wall wider (like the Cav II)?

Stickman
02-13-07, 18:15
Lower is Apr. and unk price yet. We're trying to decide if we want to sell it stripped or with the parts kits, CTR, buffer tube and MIAD.


If you sell it as a complete lower, you don't have to worry about cheap parts getting used, and people complaining their lowers are "messed up".

DrDrake
02-14-07, 12:15
Selling the lower stripped and completed has + and -. For us it's a cost issue. My thought is that if we sell the lower as a completed package, what you get is what you get end of story. Now I know there are guys that will want to upgrade triggers and change out stocks and put some other high speed parts kits in them. If we sell a completed lower folks might get a little pissy about paying for parts they are now not using, we understand that for sure. The answer is still unknown to this point. So many people want to buy stripped nowadays so they can do their own work. I'm one of those guys. That said, it is going to be eaiser to sell completed for cost and logistics reasons. It's eaiser for us to ahve either a fully stripped or a fully completed lower. The more options we have the more confusing things become in house for ass. pourposes. We're not going to make much money on these either way. We'll work this out over the next few months. I'm officially rambling.......................


Would it be feasible to do it both ways? Or does that just present too many logistical issues?

kbi
02-14-07, 12:23
Me likey!

The UBR stock look's real nice. But are the lowers gonna be available in O/D and black as well?

Hawkeye
02-14-07, 12:53
Selling the lower stripped and completed has + and -. For us it's a cost issue. My thought is that if we sell the lower as a completed package, what you get is what you get end of story. Now I know there are guys that will want to upgrade triggers and change out stocks and put some other high speed parts kits in them. If we sell a completed lower folks might get a little pissy about paying for parts they are now not using, we understand that for sure. The answer is still unknown to this point. So many people want to buy stripped nowadays so they can do their own work. I'm one of those guys. That said, it is going to be eaiser to sell completed for cost and logistics reasons. It's eaiser for us to ahve either a fully stripped or a fully completed lower. The more options we have the more confusing things become in house for ass. pourposes. We're not going to make much money on these either way. We'll work this out over the next few months. I'm officially rambling.......................

Fully assmebled with a CTR and MIAD works for me......;)

tikkafan
02-14-07, 13:15
I think the best option is to sell complete lowers initially. With all the goodies, MIAD and CTR/UBR/PRS plus optional trigger. After the initial rush, sell stripped lowers through the usual channels.

People who are going to buy the Magpul Lower are going to put Magpul stuff on it anyway. This way it's potentially cheaper for the consumer to go this route which is good for everybody.

M4arc
02-14-07, 13:28
Fully assmebled with a CTR and MIAD works for me......;)

Ditto!

Code3Patriot
02-15-07, 01:49
Sell them stripped!! Half the fun is deciding what parts to use and building them ourselves. :cool:

Dave L.
02-15-07, 03:28
I would honestly want you to sell them stripped because many people see the writing on the wall for the 2008 election. I personally want to buy up as many lowers as I can now.
I would rather buy 2 stripped than one complete(as of today). Building them is half the fun.
Maybe if you sold them complete and stripped you could just have different warranties for them i.e. if a stripped lower had a problem because someone used parts that required modification or were not recommended for use in the lower, you wouldn't cover it.

Regardless of what we (as in faithful magpul customers) want... we all just want the damn thing ASAP any way we can:D

DKircher
02-15-07, 16:00
Complete lowers w/ the option for either the CTR or UBR would be the way to go I think.

BTW, I'd like to see 'em in Flat Dark Earth as well (if your taking votes on color options). :)

Soulrack223
02-15-07, 19:55
I want one with a standard trigger, norgon ambi catch, foliage green MIAD and foliage green UBR. That set-up for about $700 sounds right to me for UBR or PRS option and $600 for a CTR. I further predict $250 for a stripped lower and upwards of $400 for a lower with LPK installed (including MIAD and ambi-catch, of course). When can I place an order or at least get in line? ;)

In all seriousness, this set-up with a LaRue Stealth billet upper will be the ultimate SHTF rifle. I predict very high ocurrence of these two showing up together.

Crash
02-15-07, 21:03
Stripped lowers at $250 a shot, I'll order 3. If you start making them complete kits at around $600, I'll only be able to afford 1. :(

I'm looking for 3 lowers to store so my boys will have an M4 when they come of age. I'm trying to keep the total cost down right now. I will use the parts I currently have to build them each into a functioning rifle one at a time, take them to the range, and have my FLEO friends shoot them. Then, if anyone ever asks, they'll be willing to sign an affadivit that those receivers were in fact, fully assembled rifles prior to any ban.

9DivDoc
02-18-07, 20:54
Selling the lower stripped and completed has + and -. For us it's a cost issue. My thought is that if we sell the lower as a completed package, what you get is what you get end of story. Now I know there are guys that will want to upgrade triggers and change out stocks and put some other high speed parts kits in them. If we sell a completed lower folks might get a little pissy about paying for parts they are now not using, we understand that for sure. The answer is still unknown to this point. So many people want to buy stripped nowadays so they can do their own work. I'm one of those guys. That said, it is going to be eaiser to sell completed for cost and logistics reasons. It's eaiser for us to ahve either a fully stripped or a fully completed lower. The more options we have the more confusing things become in house for ass. pourposes. We're not going to make much money on these either way. We'll work this out over the next few months. I'm officially rambling.......................

If it will help you out...I am in for (4) ea....stripped

Grants got my cc numbers send them to him....:)

Fatboy
02-22-07, 17:23
Sell them stripped. Ditto three (3) for me @ $250 each. For this price, I would want the option of building up my own - otherwise I'd just keep buying POF lowers.:rolleyes:

Code3Patriot
02-22-07, 20:12
I forgot to add, if they're sold stripped I'd want several in dark earth.

SuicideHz
02-22-07, 22:11
Sell them as complete lowers ONLY. That will weed out the guys who like to buy the cheapest parts kits possible like 8 year old DPMS NOS that they got at a gunshow or "grab bag" type kits where you have no idea what's in them.

It's important the lowers don't get filled with junk parts.

Noveske stopped selling stripped receivers for probably the same reason- they want to keep their name associated with a quality product even though parts kits can go both ways and a stripped receiver is pretty much as good as any other stripped receiver...

9DivDoc
02-22-07, 22:20
Sell them as complete lowers ONLY. That will weed out the guys who like to buy the cheapest parts kits possible like 8 year old DPMS NOS that they got at a gunshow or "grab bag" type kits where you have no idea what's in them.

It's important the lowers don't get filled with junk parts.

Noveske stopped selling stripped receivers for probably the same reason- they want to keep their name associated with a quality product even though parts kits can go both ways and a stripped receiver is pretty much as good as any other stripped receiver...

OK...sell them to me stripped and I will provide a signed and sworn affidavit that I will ONLY USE QUALITY PARTS...from CMT :)

SuicideHz
02-22-07, 22:38
But why? To save $5?

Fatboy
02-22-07, 23:05
But why? To save $5?

Umm. . . no. If you want the complete lower, that's fine by me. We just want to do it our way, without paying for parts that we may swap out anyway. Our having to buy a complete lower when what we want is the stripped lower would be akin to buying a complete Magpul rifle/carbine, and selling off the upper because we didn't want it in the first place. Besides, what are the chances that someone who is willing to lay down $250 a lower will fill it with junk? Never mind - there are people like that out there.:p

turbo-j
07-16-07, 10:33
7kopper..

any word on when the lowers will be produced??

thanks

DrDrake
07-16-07, 10:36
We're around a month out. Teaser pic.

http://www.magpul.com/pics/mplowers.jpg

Hawkeye
07-16-07, 10:58
Those look......GOOD. :D


Now, where's my FDE UBR?? ;)

SuicideHz
07-16-07, 19:36
Umm. . . no. If you want the complete lower, that's fine by me. We just want to do it our way, without paying for parts that we may swap out anyway. Our having to buy a complete lower when what we want is the stripped lower would be akin to buying a complete Magpul rifle/carbine, and selling off the upper because we didn't want it in the first place. Besides, what are the chances that someone who is willing to lay down $250 a lower will fill it with junk? Never mind - there are people like that out there.:p

I think Magpul just wanted to make sure they went out ready to go with no scratches and no junk in them to keep their resale value up- it's what I would do.

Not suggesting you'd fill it with junk but I'm sure for the people who like to put in a good lpk with good single stage, their needs will be met with what Magpul is offering- not junky kits- good kits.

Rmplstlskn
07-16-07, 20:37
So, will the PMAGS properly seat in the magwell? :p

Sorrry.... couldn't resist.... Only S&W could make that possible. :D

Rmpl

turbo-j
07-17-07, 03:01
7kopper..thanks for the reply..are you drake?? sorry im new to this ar15 world..

email reply directly from magpul...

The lower should be out by the end of this month. We’re shooting for the end of summer on the UBR. MIAD’s are in stock now.



Drake Clark

Magpul Industries Corporation

400 Young Court #1

Erie, CO 80516

Office: (303) 828-3460 x 112

Cell: (720) 939-5802

drake@magpul.com

www.magpul.com

DrDrake
07-17-07, 09:18
Yep, that's me.

turbo-j
08-13-07, 10:19
Drake...how are we doing on the lower and UBR release??

Thanks

welchtactical
08-13-07, 13:28
I'm ready for one! I've heard they've took a backseat to the Masada. I really want one of those! Any news?

5POINT56
08-13-07, 13:47
On TOS I believe I read a post from a Magpul rep that stated the lowers will be limited to a TOTAL of 900 units.

Is that correct?

I think the lowers look great...but I'm not interested in participating in a feeding frenzy.

Can you give us an idea as to numbers being produced? Will availability be an issue do you think?

welchtactical
08-13-07, 20:20
Is there any waiting list to get on somewhere? I also want a UBR.

Paulinski
08-13-07, 21:12
Grant (G&R Tactical - banner above) can put your name on a list for UBR stock. Just drop him an e-mail.

Paul

welchtactical
08-14-07, 06:08
Thanks Paul. I'll be doing that. I hope they'll be making more than 900. I could see that causing scrambling! Masada release????

GunLovinTexan
08-14-07, 12:42
On TOS I believe I read a post from a Magpul rep that stated the lowers will be limited to a TOTAL of 900 units.

Is that correct?

I think the lowers look great...but I'm not interested in participating in a feeding frenzy.

Can you give us an idea as to numbers being produced? Will availability be an issue do you think?

I highly doubt this. I dont think there will be a Limited Run of lowers, maybe in colors but not the actualy lower.

Id personally buy the complete.

Rob

Lumpy196
08-14-07, 13:00
Man is that on my wish-list.

5POINT56
08-15-07, 07:52
I highly doubt this. I dont think there will be a Limited Run of lowers, maybe in colors but not the actualy lower.



Rob

The following is a quote from T.O.S., by member "Magpul"...listed as "Industry Partner"...


Originally Posted By Magpul:

When we first showed pictures of them they were not even a product. We were just planning to build a 100 or so for show guns at the Shot Show. Because of demand we relented and changed our plans to build about 900.

Making lowers from billet is not easy and not very cost effective. Most likely these will be the only release we do.

Maybe we can get this question addressed here? As it appears now, there's going to be a 900 unit run...and that's it. I hope this changes.

Magpul?

TY44934
08-15-07, 18:43
Selling the lower stripped and completed has + and -. For us it's a cost issue. My thought is that if we sell the lower as a completed package, what you get is what you get end of story. Now I know there are guys that will want to upgrade triggers and change out stocks and put some other high speed parts kits in them. If we sell a completed lower folks might get a little pissy about paying for parts they are now not using, we understand that for sure. The answer is still unknown to this point. So many people want to buy stripped nowadays so they can do their own work. I'm one of those guys. That said, it is going to be eaiser to sell completed for cost and logistics reasons. It's eaiser for us to ahve either a fully stripped or a fully completed lower. The more options we have the more confusing things become in house for ass. pourposes. We're not going to make much money on these either way. We'll work this out over the next few months. I'm officially rambling.......................

Magpul - first off thanks for the outstanding work on the anti tilt follower, the pmag and the Masada - you have done much for us.


As far as the new lower, I am sold on polymer lowers; have been since Cav Arms, then Bushmaster proved their durability. And yours adds a magwel bevel - a big plus to us 3gun shooters.

However, that is just MY opinion. The community at large will look at your stripped lower price and compare it to aluminum. Currently your competition can sell a decent working lower for $77 RETAIL (and there ARE buyers willing to pay a lot more for simple things like engraving - but there had better be a reason why the price is higher).

Here is the $77 FORGED lower from Essential Arms:

http://essentialarms.com/forged%20lowers%20production.jpg

http://essentialarms.com/forged%20lower%20trio2.jpg

Granted, yours includes a triggergaurd for free. If you price yours between $75 to $135 (retail) stripped, it will sell like hotcakes. And I promise to be 1st in line.


Regards,

TY-44934

5POINT56
08-15-07, 18:53
Magpul -
As far as the new lower, I am sold on polymer lowers;.....
TY-44934

The new Magpul lower is not polymer....it's a billet aluminium lower.

Its been stated on another board by Magpul (I'm assuming so based on "Magpul" as the screen name and "Industry Partner" under the screen name.) that they are only doing a run of 900 (see: feeding frenzy) and they will be closer to $300.

I'm sure the details are likely to change....but that's what has been offered so far by at least one person at Magpul.

M4arc
08-15-07, 19:50
Man is that on my wish-list.

Mine too! I can't wait to get one of those lowers. The only problem I can see is what upper to put on it??? :D

Mike91A
08-15-07, 20:11
What will the cal. marking be ? 223, 556, or multi ? I also hope the 300.00 price mentioned will not be realised or are arms makers going to enter into the collectables buisness ? Sun Devil billet receivers are 150.00 .

Hawkeye
08-15-07, 20:27
Billet lowers such as Magpuls are very different cost wise than a forged lower. You wont see Magpul's lowers at forged prices. As for the Sun Devil ones, they may be nice, but I'd still put my money on Magpul's being worth every cent they end up charging.

"Magpul" is Rich Fitzpatrick, the big cheese, and HHIC at Magpul.

5POINT56
08-16-07, 12:41
"Magpul" is Rich Fitzpatrick, the big cheese, and HHIC at Magpul.

Are you referring to my post and the quote from "Magpul" on TOS?

If so, it would appear that the numbers posted are accurate.

With a TOTAL projected release of 900 units, the only people who are getting these lowers are those with connections in the business and those that are just flat out lucky.

I'll see what I can do, like the rest I'd like to have one for myself...but I'm not going to get my hopes up over a release that small.

I think a lot of people just expect that these are now in production, like all other lowers, with no "limited run" aspect involved.

Maybe someone from Magpul would care to chime in here?

Hawkeye
08-16-07, 13:46
This is becomming frustrating.... Things get so construed over and around the internet.

From Rich (aka Magpul) himself:


Originally Posted By Magpul:
I never said there would be no other Magpul lowers but these will be the only billet machined versions we will do (the 900 in question) . If there is a next run it will look very similer but be cut from a custom forging blank.

There is allot of work to do concerning the lowers in regards to BATF regulations and maintaing associated security.

When we release them will will do so in such a way to avoid price gouging and hoarding as much as possiable. We will have quite a out few lowers out on the market so Ithink those people who want them will have agood chance of getting them.

Blue part added by me. Hope this clarifies things some.

5POINT56
08-17-07, 00:10
This is becomming frustrating.... Things get so construed over and around the internet.

From Rich (aka Magpul) himself:



Blue part added by me. Hope this clarifies things some.

Thanks for that.

I guess Rich is the guy I was quoting as well.

DrDrake
09-05-07, 23:25
Here are some pics of the storage compartment. We're getting close! We do have plans to make inserts to hold some of the below listed items. The storage compartments will be sold as after market acc's. to the UBR.

No dates or price on these yet.

Hinged door with spring loaded locking tab.
www.magpul.com/images/090507/image010.jpg

Nice flush fit when door is closed.
www.magpul.com/images/090507/image011.jpg

Reverse side cover.
www.magpul.com/images/090507/image014.jpg

Hand full of 12" zip ties.
www.magpul.com/images/090507/image001.jpg

One bottle of lube.
www.magpul.com/images/090507/image002.jpg

Fits eight dummy rounds.
www.magpul.com/images/090507/image003.jpg

Special herbal medicine.[%|]
www.magpul.com/images/090507/image004.jpg

One Bolt and cam pin.
www.magpul.com/images/090507/image005.jpg

Two AA batt's.
www.magpul.com/images/090507/image006.jpg

Three CR 123's.
www.magpul.com/images/090507/image007.jpg

Eight spare rounds.
www.magpul.com/images/090507/image008.jpg

One Bore snake.
www.magpul.com/images/090507/image009.jpg

Jay Cunningham
09-06-07, 00:57
Hinged door with spring loaded locking tab.
http://www.magpul.com/images/090507/image010.jpg

Nice flush fit when door is closed.
http://www.magpul.com/images/090507/image011.jpg

Reverse side cover.
http://www.magpul.com/images/090507/image014.jpg

Hand full of 12" zip ties.
http://www.magpul.com/images/090507/image001.jpg

One bottle of lube.
http://www.magpul.com/images/090507/image002.jpg

Fits eight dummy rounds.
http://www.magpul.com/images/090507/image003.jpg

Special herbal medicine.[%|]
http://www.magpul.com/images/090507/image004.jpg

One Bolt and cam pin.
http://www.magpul.com/images/090507/image005.jpg

Two AA batt's.
http://www.magpul.com/images/090507/image006.jpg

Three CR 123's.
http://www.magpul.com/images/090507/image007.jpg

Eight spare rounds.
http://www.magpul.com/images/090507/image008.jpg

One Bore snake.
http://www.magpul.com/images/090507/image009.jpg


fixed it for ya!

Glockster35
09-06-07, 09:30
7Kopper,

Will MagPul be selling the Special herbal medicine as a side item, or will we be expected to locate it on our own?:D

The stock looks really nice, however; I prefer my 93B over it hands down!

I guess the truth will be in shooting with it!

Stickman
09-06-07, 19:09
Man is that on my wish-list.


I know the obvious answer is both, but did you mean Magpul Billet Lower, or the UBR?

Mike91A
09-06-07, 19:26
I have 2 93B stocks which I like. The UBR stock may give me a reason for another build.

recce556
09-07-07, 21:41
Is the UBR due out soon? I've been waiting for one for what seems like forever. :)

Stickman
09-08-07, 02:50
Is the UBR due out soon?


Yes.

http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul/IMG_4153%20900%20Stick.jpg

Marc
09-11-07, 01:55
Are these fine Magpul lowers will be available for export...?
Living in Belgium and would like to know if we will have the opportunity to buy that Hi Grade product.
I already use MIAD grip and CTR stock. Very pleased with but very hard to get in our countries.
Marc.
Belgium.

markm
09-12-07, 11:41
I'm going to have to write magpul directly and request Magpul Lower #87

I can't even begin to express the value of that particular lower.

KevinB
09-12-07, 12:29
I'm going to have to write magpul directly and request Magpul Lower #87

I can't even begin to express the value of that particular lower.

Dont worry - most of us know...

markm
09-12-07, 13:22
I have to have been the toughest guy to convert into a magpul customer. If they got me, they can get anyone!

Harv
09-12-07, 19:19
Welcome Back Brother.... Good to read you again....:)

Stickman
09-12-07, 21:35
I have to have been the toughest guy to convert into a magpul customer. If they got me, they can get anyone!


Not much question about it.

Derek_Connor
09-13-07, 06:09
Dont worry - most of us know...



unfortunately we do....:rolleyes:

toddackerman
09-14-07, 16:38
I really like that lower...

:cool:

I do too, but even though I'm a Magpul fan, I just can't jsutify the costs of the limited Edition when they come out....and I have a $3500 AR right now.

Tack

CarlosDJackal
09-16-07, 09:59
That UBR is pretty sweet and solid!! But I can't justify spending $245 for it. :eek: Maybe someday Magpul can bring its price down enough to make it worth my while. But until then, I'll stick to my CTR (cost me less than $100 with shipping).

Paulinski
09-16-07, 11:06
I can't wait for the UBR stock to be finally released. Its all I need to complete my SPR. :)

Hawkeye
09-16-07, 12:06
That UBR is pretty sweet and solid!! But I can't justify spending $245 for it. :eek: Maybe someday Magpul can bring its price down enough to make it worth my while. But until then, I'll stick to my CTR (cost me less than $100 with shipping).

Maybe one day the machinery and materials needed to make things like UBR's and such, will come down in costs enough that Mapgul can afford to sell them cheaper. I really dont think some people have any idea just how LITTLE profit Magpul is going to make on these given current pricing. The current cost in making things like this is unbelievable.

aloharover
09-16-07, 13:17
Increasing cost of fuel, transportation, and raw materials. Its a viscous cycle.

AR15barrels
09-16-07, 13:19
I really dont think some people have any idea just how LITTLE profit Magpul is going to make on these given current pricing. The current cost in making things like this is unbelievable.

Everybody wants an american designed and built product for the price of a chinese clone.

You know how it goes... s&it on one hand and wish in the other and see what you end up with.

Stickman
09-16-07, 15:36
NOT MINE, this is a picture that was forwarded to me through a few people and it was mentioned that it could be posted online. I know a little less than nothing on this one.

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9346/image007agf3.jpg

Spooky130
09-16-07, 17:10
NOT MINE, this is a picture that was forwarded to me through a few people and it was mentioned that it could be posted online. I know a little less than nothing on this one.

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9346/image007agf3.jpg

Great picture... Anyone notice that the MagPul-ification of that rifle started with the lower (stock, grip, receiver, mag). The next step is the upper to include receivers, BCGs, barrels, rails, etc!

Spooky

SuicideHz
09-16-07, 18:49
HUH? :confused:

Stickman
09-17-07, 10:17
HUH? :confused:

Shhhh, he is on a roll. Its kind of like when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.....

QuickStrike
09-24-07, 16:05
*bump*

must have a lower.. :o

shark31
09-24-07, 16:09
NOT MINE, this is a picture that was forwarded to me through a few people and it was mentioned that it could be posted online. I know a little less than nothing on this one.

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9346/image007agf3.jpg


Hmmm....what kind of BUIS are on that rifle?