View Full Version : question- how are SF/CIA Toyota Hilux/Tacoma trucks holding up?
Does anybody have any feedback on the overall level of satisfaction our guys have with these trucks? I am a layman, but IIRC several SF ruck teams and whatnot were operating with these vehicles almost from the start of operations in A'Stan and perhaps Iraq too. Have they performed well?
telecustom
08-08-09, 19:16
They are a little beat up but doing fine. I was just have a truck with a working radio (music). Parts are a little hard to come by. The Contrators we had were good and the LN Mechanics had some good connections to get us the things we needed. I had pics, but it looks like they didn't make it back to the states.
stevenhyde
08-08-09, 19:23
top gear likes the hilux.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrk6vsb77xk
it still runs!
ICANHITHIMMAN
08-08-09, 19:24
It has been a few years 04 to be exact but they hold up well for what you put them through.
The Tacoms that 5th Group bought out in town at Fort Campbell and flew over have one major draw back they have gas engines.
The Highlux trucks we had where under powered that little deisel just didnt have the ass to get you up the ridgelines even in 4WD LO. You had to be a good driver to get them where you had to be.
Afghans can fix anything however
It has been a few years 04 to be exact but they hold up well for what you put them through.
The Tacoms that 5th Group bought out in town at Fort Campbell and flew over have one major draw back they have gas engines.
The Highlux trucks we had where under powered that little deisel just didnt have the ass to get you up the ridgelines even in 4WD LO. You had to be a good driver to get them where you had to be.
Afghans can fix anything however
Diesel seems to make so much more sense. I assume they can run off the same fuel as the helicopters and generators etc. Just curious- do they cram onto the -47's?
Any thoughts as to what the major wear items are/were?
Off topic, ICANHITHIMMAN might be the most interesting user name on this whole board. LOL
ICANHITHIMMAN
08-08-09, 20:27
Glad you like the NAME.
We used desiel off the local economy but I assume JP8 would do just fine.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/ICANHITHIMMAN/Picture594.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/ICANHITHIMMAN/Picture473.jpg
MarshallDodge
08-08-09, 20:34
I would love to have a Hilux diesel. It would be perfect for my son when he turns 16 in 2011.
I had the Tacoma TRD. Tt was great off-road, traded for my Dodge Cummins so that I could pull a travel trailer, and I miss it.
ICANHITHIMMAN
08-08-09, 20:34
This is south Of Qalat Afghanistan on the south side of Mizan
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/ICANHITHIMMAN/Picture628.jpg
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ICANHITHIMMAN
08-08-09, 20:43
Jalabad
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/ICANHITHIMMAN/Picture616.jpg
TORA BORA
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/ICANHITHIMMAN/Afghanistan810.jpg
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ICANHITHIMMAN
08-08-09, 20:45
TORA BORA
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/ICANHITHIMMAN/Afghanistan557.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/ICANHITHIMMAN/Afghanistan694.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/ICANHITHIMMAN/Afghanistan778.jpg
are you on 56? Thanks for your service.
Diesel seems to make so much more sense. I assume they can run off the same fuel as the helicopters and generators etc. Just curious- do they cram onto the -47's?
In Iraq during Desert Storm, during the cease fire, we had a group of Bedouins stop at our perimeter in search of gasoline. They saw our CUCV’s and the fact that they were made by Chevy, and thought they ran off gasoline.
They had a wad of American cash and were ready to pay. Only thing was, the CUCV’s are diesel and we fueled them with JP8. These fellows simply would not accept that for an answer. They insisted that CHEVY equaled GASOLINE.
I had to literally escort one of them over to a vehicle to show him proof that the CUCV did in fact run off diesel.
LOL-It was only then that they went on their way.
ICANHITHIMMAN
08-09-09, 13:05
not on 56. Just taging along.
Besides being a huge Toyota fan some of those pictures are awesome! What a beautiful place (besides the war).
ICANHITHIMMAN
08-09-09, 15:18
I got to say I loved it there the people and the food. WAR sux but I would do it again in a second!
Just saw this topic. Found this link on a Toyo forum I was on after I got my '08 Taco. I saw the ones at Ft. Campbell back in '02-'03 before they went over.
http://www.brian894x4.com/MilitaryTacoma.html
ThirdWatcher
08-17-09, 05:14
I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but I really wish we had a better selection of diesels in this country. I think they make more sense than hybrids (I hope we can recycle all those old batteries when they wear out :confused:). I've got a diesel in my pickup and if I were in the market for a car, I think I would look at the VW Jetta TDI.
I hate the thought of being so dependent on foreign oil.
MarshallDodge
08-18-09, 11:33
I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but I really wish we had a better selection of diesels in this country. I think they make more sense than hybrids (I hope we can recycle all those old batteries when they wear out :confused:). I've got a diesel in my pickup and if I were in the market for a car, I think I would look at the VW Jetta TDI.
I hate the thought of being so dependent on foreign oil.
As an owner of a Dodge Cummins and a TDI Jetta, I totally agree. Both get much better mileage, maintenance is simple, and the power output is superior to the gas equivalent.
A friend recently told me about his buddy having to replace the battery in an older hybrid. The cost with labor was $5K !!! :eek:
As an owner of a Dodge Cummins and a TDI Jetta, I totally agree. Both get much better mileage, maintenance is simple, and the power output is superior to the gas equivalent.
A friend recently told me about his buddy having to replace the battery in an older hybrid. The cost with labor was $5K !!! :eek:
I 100% agree. When I bought my Passat in 2006 I wanted a TDI Jetta but they were being absolute asses about the price and the gas Passat ended up being thousands less.
Audi has a new A3 TDI coming this Fall. Rumor is that it won't have a Quattro offer but if it did I would be all over it (assuming I could afford it with cash, which I cannot)
Chad
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/ICANHITHIMMAN/Afghanistan837.jpg
How did the LR Defender hold up?
I thought you guys would enjoy seeing these pictures of some new Hilux's getting ready for deployment: http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/toyota-trucks-suvs/38200-special-force-toyota-hilux.html
Posted over on Tacoma World
ICANHITHIMMAN
12-15-09, 09:29
I dont have any first hand experince with the land rover the SF guys liked them alot
cougar_guy04
12-15-09, 18:25
I thought you guys would enjoy seeing these pictures of some new Hilux's getting ready for deployment: http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/toyota-trucks-suvs/38200-special-force-toyota-hilux.html
Posted over on Tacoma World
Want!
I really do wish you could get a diesel here in the states without getting into the 3/4 or 1 ton trucks.
VooDoo6Actual
12-15-09, 18:51
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/KabulTruck1Large.jpg
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These are from Kabul, May 02'.
I preferred the thin skinned Tacoma Quads BUT in time do require maintanence when "rode hard and put away wet".
Want!
I really do wish you could get a diesel here in the states without getting into the 3/4 or 1 ton trucks.
The big 3 were supposed to release 1/2 ton diesels in the coming years.
Saw lots of Ford Rangers with pedestal mounts on them while I was there just recently, in the Marine AOR to the south. I don't know whether they were diesel.
I do know that those things just disintegrate when they hit 35lbs of HME put in the road, the poor bastards inside along with it. Amazingly, the one dude manning the gun in the bed was the lone survivor, though he got launched like a bottle rocket.
cougar_guy04
12-16-09, 17:45
The big 3 were supposed to release 1/2 ton diesels in the coming years.
Yeh, I remember hearing about the Ford and talking with a Cummins rep briefly about the Dodge back when I was in school. Haven't heard much from 'em recently.
Really cool thread, I love Toyota trucks and wondered how they were doing over there.
Funny some of you guys mention TDI's in a Toyota thread, somebody makes a bell housing adapter to mate a TDI engine to a Toyota truck transmission. If I ever find a TDI engine cheap enough I'll fab up some engine mounts and drop it in my yota.
VooDoo6Actual
12-17-09, 11:41
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/KabulTruck15.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/KabulTruck16.jpg
Slightly off topic;
I stopped by the Toyota dealer today and looked at the new Tundras with the Rock Warrior package. That's my next truck! Also I looked at the new 4-Runner and really like the style. Unfortunately the new Tacomas won't be available until '13 and I don't want to wait that long so the wife and I are talking about buying the Tundra in early summer.
Kentucky Cop
12-17-09, 13:42
I wonder why some of the SF guys haven't given a new Tundra a shot. It seems that the 4-door model with a bigger bed would fit their needs after looking at some of the pics. Man, they have shit crammed everywhere. My friend has a newer tacoma and with four average guys with no gear on inside are uncomfortable. Its tight and thats on a nice smooth road and not a mountain "road" from hell. You would think the Tundra would fit their bill with a slightly bigger body and two options of engines to A-haul ass, or B- pull them up the side of the mountains. One of the articles was complaining that the TACO didn't quite have enough ass at times to get them in a remote area unless the driver was Ivan Stewart. Just my two cents.....
Excellent thread by the way! The pics are BA!
One big reason would be that the new Tundra would probably stick out even more than a HMMWV, and look really odd. One nice thing about the older Tacos and Hiluxes is that they look more "native" to the area.
I like the new Tundras and all but honestly I don't think they'd survive well. They're just not put together to survive that kind of environment. I would say that even the current '05+ Taco (which is what I drive, and I like it a lot) probably wouldn't hold up to the abuse as well as the '04-earlier version. I just don't think the current US-market trucks are as rugged as older Toyota pickups. Too many design compromises these days, every new model gets more complicated than the older ones...
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/KabulCowboy.jpg
These are from Kabul, May 02'.
HOP,
Was that a .50 or .458 AR in that pic? I remember seeing some old pics of what I think was the same EZ-cheese colored AR way back in the day (several years ago) with a note that it was one of the big-bore uppers. Looks like the same dude and same gun.
ForTehNguyen
12-17-09, 14:51
just watch how badly Top Gear beat up a Hilux, the thing still didnt die even after all the punishment
I wonder why some of the SF guys haven't given a new Tundra a shot. It seems that the 4-door model with a bigger bed would fit their needs after looking at some of the pics. Man, they have shit crammed everywhere. My friend has a newer tacoma and with four average guys with no gear on inside are uncomfortable. Its tight and thats on a nice smooth road and not a mountain "road" from hell. You would think the Tundra would fit their bill with a slightly bigger body and two options of engines to A-haul ass, or B- pull them up the side of the mountains. One of the articles was complaining that the TACO didn't quite have enough ass at times to get them in a remote area unless the driver was Ivan Stewart. Just my two cents.....
Excellent thread by the way! The pics are BA!
They wouldn't blend in. Hiluxes are all over the world and there were plenty already in Afghanistan before 9/11/01. Tundras would scream "Americans" at first glipse.
I remember reading one of the books about Afghanistan where the special forces teams knew this and bought up a bunch of Tacomas from local dealers and outfitted them before they left the states. They knew they would draw less attention.
Kentucky Cop
12-17-09, 15:49
Excellent point guys. I really didnt know how tough those little trucks are. I knew that they make an excellent truck/SUVs but wow! I still would love for the SF guys to get a Tundra with all the outback bumpers/ winch and let them pound on it a bit like they do on the TACO and see how it holds up. Same manufacture and parts per say but different platform.(totally understand the low key approach that screams shoot at me). My family now has our 2nd 07 4_runner and we love it. V6 of course because Momma drives it.:D
Great pics, especially in that steep pass.
How would this blend in? :D
http://www.hondaacuraautoparts.com/honda-acura-auto-parts-catalog/images/LSD-Door-Kits-Cadillac-Escalade-1.gif
I used to drive an '88 Diesel Toyota Hilux back in the UK. That thing was beaten to shit but it kept on ticking.
You guys never seen the Top Gear crew trying to kill one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3uvx93QV1U
EzGoingKev
12-17-09, 18:43
How did the LR Defender hold up?
My friend said they used them in the 90's when he was in Africa on embassy duty. He said they were great.
Too bad the ones they sell to the public here in the states are such pieces of shit.
VooDoo6Actual
12-17-09, 19:52
HOP,
Was that a .50 or .458 AR in that pic? I remember seeing some old pics of what I think was the same EZ-cheese colored AR way back in the day (several years ago) with a note that it was one of the big-bore uppers. Looks like the same dude and same gun.
Check.
.50 Beowulf
The external ballistics of the Beowulf cartridge are well suited to urban environments where the shorter range template allows for more flexible application and the large projectile energy delivered by the ammunition can disable both motor vehicles and assailants with body armor.
Slightly off topic;
I stopped by the Toyota dealer today and looked at the new Tundras with the Rock Warrior package. That's my next truck! Also I looked at the new 4-Runner and really like the style. Unfortunately the new Tacomas won't be available until '13 and I don't want to wait that long so the wife and I are talking about buying the Tundra in early summer.
you can't just put graphics, color match the grill and bumpers, change the shocks and tires....and have an off-road ready truck.
you want an off-road ready truck straight from the dealer? look at the Dodge Power Wagon or Ford Raptor.
analogy: the Rock Warrior is to the PW and Raptor as a Bushmaster is to a Colt6920.
you can't just put graphics, color match the grill and bumpers, change the shocks and tires....and have an off-road ready truck.
you want an off-road ready truck straight from the dealer? look at the Dodge Power Wagon or Ford Raptor.
analogy: the Rock Warrior is to the PW and Raptor as a Bushmaster is to a Colt6920.
I think the Tundra is quite capable off-road even in basic trim.
Kentucky Cop
12-18-09, 14:17
Just looked at the Raptor while cruising the lot at work looking for bad guys. The damn thing had a sticker of $41K! Holy #@#$! It appeared to have a few extra Fox shocks and suspension, better paint and tires and a upgraded interior of what you would see in any SVT model. My opinion would to buy what you want and make the upgrades as you see fit. Did I say a sticker of $41K! Goodness, not worth it in my opinion. Looked like a bunch of "go faster items" bolted on to it. Me, I want a Tundra, nothing special than slap a lift and some '35 or '37 Nitto tires with black rims and call it a day. Way cheaper than what Ford wants for their "show" truck. :)
EzGoingKev
12-18-09, 15:24
Way cheaper than what Ford wants for their "show" truck. :)
Reliable too.
Just looked at the Raptor while cruising the lot at work looking for bad guys. The damn thing had a sticker of $41K! Holy #@#$! It appeared to have a few extra Fox shocks and suspension, better paint and tires and a upgraded interior of what you would see in any SVT model. My opinion would to buy what you want and make the upgrades as you see fit. Did I say a sticker of $41K! Goodness, not worth it in my opinion. Looked like a bunch of "go faster items" bolted on to it. Me, I want a Tundra, nothing special than slap a lift and some '35 or '37 Nitto tires with black rims and call it a day. Way cheaper than what Ford wants for their "show" truck. :)
The Rock Warrior package I looked at was 35K. Sorry but I'm not paying MORE for a Ford or Dodge. Granted both make nice trucks but you'll have a hard time convincing me they make a better, more capable truck than Toyota.
EzGoingKev
12-18-09, 15:46
Toyota makes the best vehicle on the road today.
Toyota makes the best vehicle on the road today.
But apparently it's not capable of going off-road :rolleyes:
decodeddiesel
12-18-09, 16:27
The Rock Warrior package I looked at was 35K. Sorry but I'm not paying MORE for a Ford or Dodge. Granted both make nice trucks but you'll have a hard time convincing me they make a better, more capable truck than Toyota.
You already are, thank the "bailout".
I wish I could afford a pre-2004 4x4 Tacoma as a 3rd vehicle, but man they are expensive. I did really like the 4 door Hiluxs our battalion had in 2003.
Belmont31R
12-18-09, 18:53
Every "American" vehicle Ive owned has been chock full of problems.
Every "Jap" vehicle Ive owned has been great.
Let see...Mustang almost got lemon lawed, and later had the exhaust manifold break in half. Then the Ford dealership but non-CARB legal headers as replacements.
Jeep...computer failed at 25k miles, lights randomly go out on it, and then turn back on months later. Ive been pulled over in it 7 times for a light being out. And no its not just burnt out bulbs. Their wiring just sucks. Dash light, tail lights, brake lights, lights for the shifter, et cetera. Been to dealer 3X and private shop 4 times but it still happens. Part of the 4x4 system burnt out even though its been used rarely. Plus it gets 13-14MPG city driving when huge trucks get better than that.
Ford Ranger...brakes would randomly not work, and almost killed me. Tranny was crap.
Dodge 3500 duelly. Random problems like power steering and vacuum lines. Right now it will stall out just idling.
And I do take care of my stuff. Oil changes with good stuff every 3k miles. Driven not harshly but not babied.
Now I drive my Japanese 350Z, and its not had a single issue to date. My dad now drives a Honda after owning American vehicles his whole life. His car has not had a single issue.
My next vehicle will be a 4 door Tacoma TRD. Now that GM and Chrysler are owned by the GOV/UAW and took billions of our money I will not ever buy a product from them...dont care how good it is or whatever. Too many issues with Ford products in the past, and at least the dealer I went to was horrible about warranty work.
Kentucky Cop
02-28-10, 15:25
M4arc and myself were discussing this thread earlier. In an attempt to keep it going with all the new members that probably haven't seen it, anyone have anything to cuss or discuss with this topic. Oh, and more pictures would be awesome from all the military guys we have on here.
Kentucky Cop
The people who decided that Humvees were the answer to their problem (?) must get a little chapped to see good guys and bad guys happily running all over the place with Toyota pickups. I started out with a '49 Jeep 4x4 station wagon with a flathead 4 cyl. in 1970. After 3 Jeeps, 1 Land Rover, 1-3/4 ton Ford, another from work, and the current '87 Toyota 4x4--and everything from Colorado jeep trails to the high arctic--give me the Toyota.
My only regret is that I didn't get one of the original Land Cruisers back in 1972 when you could get it for $2700 and change. Talk about clueless. :rolleyes:
Alpha Sierra
02-28-10, 16:42
I think I would look at the VW Jetta TDI.
VW charges a premium for a Golf with a trunk.
Get a Golf TDI. Same performance, interior, drivetrain as a Jetta (after all the Jetta is nothing more than a Golf with a trunk) and a MUCH more versatile cargo area. For less money.
Kentucky Cop
03-26-10, 19:16
This thread came to my mind as I have recently watched several DVR'd shows of the "Border Patrol". I was amazed at how much abuse they put their trucks thru. It appears that they have several models of patrol vehicles. The one that appeared to be constant was the Chevy Silverado 2500. It appeared that most of the trucks were stock with the exception of some suspensions mods. It looked as if they were running 35 inch BFG's on black rims. I couldn't tell if they were gas or diesel but the trucks seemed to tackle some serious terrain.
Anyways, I wonder if the BP ever tried the TACO's. I am sure that they were needing a fullsize for the prisoner box in the bed. Who knows. Nonetheless, I was impressed with the terrain they threw at them. They also utilized Suburbans and Ford 250's. I would love to see how many miles and if they hold up after a year or two of that grueling duty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F6YdE8MFOU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InAdKzqTUMA
Ky Cop
Does anybody have any feedback on the overall level of satisfaction our guys have with these trucks? I am a layman, but IIRC several SF ruck teams and whatnot were operating with these vehicles almost from the start of operations in A'Stan and perhaps Iraq too. Have they performed well?
Hiluxs are still proliferating in Afghanistan. You can rent one for $800 Euro a month where I'm at. We use them for on the FOB transportation and most are in pretty bad shape after years of abuse. However, there are some new models on the FOB. Here is a photo of one.
http://s757.photobucket.com/albums/xx212/dragondoc/?action=view¤t=SAM_0065.jpg
http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx212/dragondoc/SAM_0065.jpg
I've been spending the better part of the last two years trying to kill this truck
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Type 76 Toyota Landcruiser with 2.4L diesel. A bit underpowered, but hell for stout.
I wish I could take it home with me.
VW charges a premium for a Golf with a trunk.
Get a Golf TDI. Same performance, interior, drivetrain as a Jetta (after all the Jetta is nothing more than a Golf with a trunk) and a MUCH more versatile cargo area. For less money.
My wife has an 02 TDI Jetta. It has about 260,000 on it. We are not the types that go get a new car every few years. We ride our shit to the wheels fall off, but I am very mechanically inclined so maintenance issues are taken care of. The Jetta is a good car, I would not completely say its a great car as there have been a lot of stupid little plastic shit break on it that shouldn't have. I love the motor, plenty enough ass to get up and go but damn it is soo nice to fill it up and ride over 600 miles before having to fill it up again. I normally get about 45 miles/gallon. One negative thing is it seems like everytime we get diesel it never fails, so poor soul has to come over and let us know we are putting diesel in that car not gas. The 1st 87 times I explained it out for them, now I gave in to my sick sense of humor and say things like "ohh shit, your right, can you help me get it out" or "I know, if I mix a 1/2 tank of diesel with 3/8's tank of gas and 1/8 tank of water I get 73 miles/gallon!!!"
I also have a 96 Tacoma with high milage that has been a dream. I can't say enough goid things about it. I am thinking very hard of buying a halfcut and doing a diesel conversion on it when the gas motor finally dies.
American vs import....In this day, this argument is invalid. I've worked in many, many plants that supply automakers as well as automotive plants. The bumpers made for GM cars are made on the same machine that makes bumpers for BMWs and Kias, same with gas tanks. Most of the parent companies are French, German,..... I am willing to bet you there are more American made (as in made here in the US) parts in your average BMW than your average Ford. In industry, everything is so global, it's no longer a valid arguement to ridicule someone for owning an import. I will not own anything but a Toyota truck. Having worked with plenty of Americans, Japs, Germans,.... They on average, are more quality orientied than we are and usually it shows. I spent 32 hours straight working on a gearbox once in a Jap plant, with 2 older (think retirement age) Japs right there with me the whole time helping because they wanted it done perfectly. I thought a lot of that as I'm somewhat of a perfectionist myself. That's normal with them. If that had been a US plant, they would want it bandaided and up running by the end of their shift so they could get home.
Spurholder
07-09-11, 11:57
Love this thread - and miss my '06 Tacoma!
Obviously the Brits get a diesel or two for the Hilux...was expecting the HP numbers to be slightly higher, though.
Click HERE (http://www.toyota.co.uk/cgi-bin/toyota/bv/generic_editorial.jsp?navRoot=toyota_1024_root&nodiv=TRUE&fullwidth=TRUE&forceText=%3cnone%3e&edname=HL6_CarChapter&id=HL5_Invincible&zone=Zone NG Hilux&deepLink=HL5_Invincible&navType=Content&sr=Mall).
RogerinTPA
07-09-11, 12:47
Hiluxs are still proliferating in Afghanistan. You can rent one for $800 Euro a month where I'm at. We use them for on the FOB transportation and most are in pretty bad shape after years of abuse. However, there are some new models on the FOB. Here is a photo of one.
http://s757.photobucket.com/albums/xx212/dragondoc/?action=view¤t=SAM_0065.jpg
http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx212/dragondoc/SAM_0065.jpg
We have two of these new and run them off JP-8 and Jet-A. They are neat trucks indeed.
Just looked at the Raptor while cruising the lot at work looking for bad guys. The damn thing had a sticker of $41K! Holy #@#$! It appeared to have a few extra Fox shocks and suspension, better paint and tires and a upgraded interior of what you would see in any SVT model. My opinion would to buy what you want and make the upgrades as you see fit. Did I say a sticker of $41K! Goodness, not worth it in my opinion. Looked like a bunch of "go faster items" bolted on to it. Me, I want a Tundra, nothing special than slap a lift and some '35 or '37 Nitto tires with black rims and call it a day. Way cheaper than what Ford wants for their "show" truck. :)
why not just get a 4x4 XLT with the 6.2L?
We have two of these new and run them off JP-8 and Jet-A. They are neat trucks indeed.
I really like the Landcruiser type 76 better. The newer styled Hiluxes and Landcruisers have more power, but do not take severe terrain as well, are rougher riding and are wider. And lord, is it nice to have a vehicle that is skinny in our AO.
We have a new Hilux, but I just do not enjoy driving it.
RogerinTPA
07-10-11, 00:54
I really like the Landcruiser type 76 better. The newer styled Hiluxes and Landcruisers have more power, but do not take severe terrain as well, are rougher riding and are wider. And lord, is it nice to have a vehicle that is skinny in our AO.
We have a new Hilux, but I just do not enjoy driving it.
My aircraft broke in Shank the other day and we had to RON there. I was surprised how well their Hiluxes are holding up after several years and Effed up roads there. They must have outstanding mechanics.
My aircraft broke in Shank the other day and we had to RON there. I was surprised how well their Hiluxes are holding up after several years and Effed up roads there. They must have outstanding mechanics.
The old style Hiluxes are the shit. All the back alley mechanics put a lift on them first thing, and they seem to run forever.
It's really too bad the EPA and DOT are saving us from the evils of diesel Hiluxes. I wish I could have an old style one in the US.
I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but I really wish we had a better selection of diesels in this country. I think they make more sense than hybrids (I hope we can recycle all those old batteries when they wear out :confused:). I've got a diesel in my pickup and if I were in the market for a car, I think I would look at the VW Jetta TDI.
I hate the thought of being so dependent on foreign oil.
agreed. i'm currently driving an ancient mercedes 300d turbodiesel. 26 mpg, huge, good power, and very reliable drivetrain despite being 26 years old.
the fuel flexibility that diesel offers could really open up the market as well.
Really cool thread, I love Toyota trucks and wondered how they were doing over there.
Funny some of you guys mention TDI's in a Toyota thread, somebody makes a bell housing adapter to mate a TDI engine to a Toyota truck transmission. If I ever find a TDI engine cheap enough I'll fab up some engine mounts and drop it in my yota.
http://www.4x4labs.com/2011/03/om617-to-toyota-w56-5-speed-adapter-kit/
also can mount the bigger torquier, lower maintenance mercedes OM 617 to a toyota 5-speed. the 617 is the5 cyl turbodiesel 77-85 model years... should work on the NA and 4 cyl merc diesels of this era as well...
We also have a few Tacomas here. Here is a pic of the two side by side.
http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx212/dragondoc/SAM_0066.jpg
Hi-Lux is tough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JspHqoegTkc&feature=related
(not SF or mil use though)
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