View Full Version : Internet security concerns
montanadave
08-17-09, 19:45
I went off topic on another thread a few days back (and was properly chastised by the moderator for doing so :o ) but am still interested in getting some feedback from those who are a tad more cyber-savvy than myself.
My brother is somewhat of a computer geek and used to spend a lot of time on various computer and IT forums. Among that demographic, it apparently was not uncommon for people who knew somebody who knew a guy (you get the idea) to determine an individual's IP address and, subsequently, their internet provider billing information with address, etc. According to my brother, many regulars on these sights would use proxy servers to avoid this issue.
I have always been a little reticent to post pictures of my firearms or other items of value on various forums for the reasons stated above. Anyone else share those concerns, use proxies, etc.?
So, someone would have to have hack into M4carbine.net, access the web server logs and match your login to your IP address. Then they can find your ISP, (not hard) then would have to hack your ISP to match up your IP address to your ISP login and then get your personal info. That's is a lot of work just to get your address because you posted a pic of your antique 45 caliber Luger.
On the other hand, if you don't have a firewall in your router and/or on your PC and if they get into your personal info on your PC, they now have even better info than just your home address.
I doubt that any Professor Moriarty smart enough to hack into web systems is going to drive around doing B+Es with the info that he has gained. There is much more low hanging fruit like ID theft and CC numbers that is more lucrative than stolen guns.
That being said, I don't put any info on the Internet that I wouldn't say out loud in a busy restaurant.
Gringop
There will be no definitive answer to this question. I would always assume that whatever I post can be further accessed by whoever for whatever reason if the authorized or possibly unauthorized party was interested and had the capacity to do so. To assume otherwise is foolish.
That's why we have common sense, alarm systems, and big, heavy gun safes. ;)
http://www.danasoft.com/vipersig.jpg
http://www.danasoft.com/citysign.jpg
http://www.danasoft.com/vipersig.jpg
http://www.danasoft.com/citysign.jpg
Todd.....WTF.
Please explain how this was done.
http://www.danasoft.com/vipersig.jpg
http://www.danasoft.com/citysign.jpg
OMG that guy's IN MY HOUSE!!!!
montanadave
08-17-09, 21:39
http://www.danasoft.com/vipersig.jpg
http://www.danasoft.com/citysign.jpg
Yeah, I'm feeling all kinds of better now! :eek:
Preferred User
08-17-09, 21:42
Todd.....WTF.
Please explain how this was done.
The information you are seeing is what every web site you visit sees.
Thomas M-4
08-17-09, 21:47
Its a network protocol
I wouldn't be all that worried. Yes bad things happen and people do have their identity stolen etc. However, a little bit of security goes a long way. Hackers are not going to waste a lot of time trying to hack your machine, break your wireless keys, etc. unless somebody just has it out for you in particular and then you have bigger problems. They would much rather find someone who's system is wide open.
Use a router, change the default password, change the internal ip range from the default to another non-routable range, encrypt your wireless. Beyond that if you're really concerned I guess you can route all your traffic using TOR (The Onion Routing Network) but keep in mind it will cut into your speed.
It's been suggested that some of the better sites use the system to keep trolls and other troublemakers from coming back. Smart folks with friends in the right places can do some amazing things.
M4tographer
08-17-09, 22:42
Its a network protocol
It's a series of tubes.
The information you are seeing is what every web site you visit sees.
I am aware of this, but how does a non-staff member access such information?
K.L. Davis
08-17-09, 23:27
Insert this into your post...
http://www.danasoft.com/vipersig.jpg
http://www.danasoft.com/vipersig.jpg
The danasoft site does the rest
Thomas M-4
08-17-09, 23:38
It's a series of tubes.
Just plug one of these into your network all security problems fixed
http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/img/etherkiller.jpg
No I am just kidding don't.
Preferred User
08-18-09, 00:05
I am aware of this, but how does a non-staff member access such information?
You are seeing the information about your connection. I see the information about my connection. The "average" user on this site cannot see your information. Only someone with access to the server (or similar) logs can see information about your connection.
That said there are any number of "admins" along the route of your connection that can see the information (and more). Your ISP can see the information, any router between your connection and this site can see that information, the admins where this site is hosted can see the information . . .
There are most assuredly others that can access that information if you need me to feed your paranoia. Of course if I, or others in my profession, have 30 seconds of access to your computer we can find out all kinds of information about your computer habits.
montanadave
08-18-09, 08:16
Well that just tears it. From now on when I go offline, I'll be removing the flux capacitor from my modem. And, as an additional security measure, I've tied a knot in my Cat-5 line. Once again it's been demonstrated that, yes, I am being paranoid, but just not quite paranoid enough.
Not to hijack my own thread, but how many layers of aluminum foil are recommended for Pella windows?
Seriously, all of this is a trifle unsettling for someone of my limited tech savvy. When it comes to my computer. I'm definitely a "plug and play" kinda guy and don't go under the hood. Every time I've decided to get creative with a computer and start messing around with settings and parameters beyond my ken, I've ended up with an electronic doorstop. I suppose, as has already been stated, anybody with the requisite technological knowhow and proper motivation can get up in your shit pretty good. Thanks for the feedback.
http://www.danasoft.com/vipersig.jpg
http://www.danasoft.com/citysign.jpg
Todd,
Why did you have to pick my IP though?
Todd,
Why did you have to pick my IP though?
HAHAHAHA... He didn't. Everyone is seeing their own information. It's a dynamic link. It posts whoever is viewing the links information.
But, just to be safe, you may want to get out the Reynolds Wrap! ;)
Why did you have to pick my IP though?
I've always liked you the least.
No seriously, it shows each of us our own info. Here is what I see:
http://9x19mm.com/photoalbum/albums/userpics/ipinfo.jpg
30 cal slut
08-18-09, 09:51
http://9x19mm.com/photoalbum/albums/userpics/ipinfo.jpg
dude, you need to move to a free state.
:D
http://www.danasoft.com/vipersig.jpg
http://www.danasoft.com/citysign.jpg
LOL! Eastlake is right next to my fair city. I like that bit about the spandex, hehe :p
The people that kick in doors for a living (not in a good way), aren't particularly known to be computer geeks. SO, can it be done in a unusually round a bout way. Sure, is it something I lose sleep over?? Hell no. You need to worry far more about someone tailing you home from the shooting range, identifying your house, then monitoring your habits to a known time when you aren't going to be home. I could give you half a dozen more scenarios like that which don't involve above an 8th grade education which are 100% more probable. Computer geeks are the kind of guys that make a fake ATM, put a small hidden camera over the keypad, build a small computer inside with a card reader, steal your info, fabricate a fake card then empty your bank account. They usually don't go for confrontation and weapons.
K.L. Davis
08-18-09, 22:20
http://9x19mm.com/photoalbum/albums/userpics/ipinfo.jpg
Mac? Now that is hip yo...
I had one of those photo/social networking sites that a friend joined and sent me a request to join to see pics of his family...I started the joining process and before finished it asked me if If I wanted to also contact several other people on their site they pulled from my computers address book???
WTF, OVER???
I immediately dumped to the joining process and now wonder how and how many sites have my entire address book or more personal info from my computer??? I feel Cyber-Raped:eek:
You do not have to worry about the sites that let you know what you are doing, it is the ones that do not ask, and you will only find out later when they do something bad. Fake emails are the most widely used things to steal your identity, NEVER click a link from an email when it has anything to do with your personal info.
If you ever check your junk email I am sure you will end up seeing mail about bank accounts and credit cards that you have never had, they are just phishing mails.
Your IP is useless information, they would have to hack your ISP to get any real information.
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