View Full Version : I'll take mine black...
ztf HITMAN
08-23-09, 18:10
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd162/klasseigne75/IMG00128.jpg
I see alot of people doing the color scheme thing on their AR's. Many of my preferences have changed as far as ARs go, but the one thing that has remained constant is the essence of the "Black Rifle".
Oh, and add the sugar, I like em sweet!
usaffarmer
08-23-09, 19:11
It's all preferance, that being said black doesn't blend well a multiple color rifle or even gear blends. But it depends on what you do with it, kill paper that doesn't shot back, safe queen doesn't matter.
its been realized that black is a terrible color for camoflage.. even at night, green brown and tan blend in better.
i'm sure a lot of it is style points, naturally, but that's how it started. i'm with you- i love the sleek, clean look of an all-black gun. but out of my current 5, none are all black.
Telecomtodd
08-23-09, 19:25
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss256/Telecomtodd/DSC_0016a.jpg
Except the Lancer mag isn't...black.
unless you're an operator of some kind or varmint sniper, there is no need to paint your rifle. truth is that 95% of the civilian AR owners are paper punchers. does not matter if you shoot 10 rounds per month or 10,000. now some look very cool painted up, but i could never bring myself to do such a thing.
unless you're an operator of some kind or varmint sniper, there is no need to paint your rifle. truth is that 95% of the civilian AR owners are paper punchers. does not matter if you shoot 10 rounds per month or 10,000.
who's talking about need?
but if we are talking about need, you do realize that a LOT of people, especially around here, keep themselves in a general state of combat readines, in the event of invasion, terrorist attack, civil war, rebel uprisings, or even just roving packs of looters/rapists/murders during a state of panic... right? you can call that paranoid, and i can call you paranoid for wearing a seatbelt.
now some look very cool painted up, but i could never bring myself to do such a thing.
why not? it's fun and functional
Basic black is always classy. :D Though I'll still end up painting mine at some point.
Really liking those MOE handguards on rifles not running rails.
Jay Cunningham
08-23-09, 20:20
My two "go to" carbines are black. I can't really get worked up over colors.
I've got a lot of black guns, I am no longer ignorant enough to presume that black is good "camo" for anything -- including night time movement.
A light tan color or a lighter gray is actually ideal for blending in.
Only one of my rifles is tan with foliage and green accent and it blends in nicely:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee192/SHIVAN308/Stuff/IMG_1851.jpg
The optic on my rifle is duracoat in the old Dark Earth, and you can see how dark it is. The MIAD grip is foliage but covered over lightly in khaki krylon, it still sticks out. The camo my friend and I are wearing is actually much lighter than it looks in the photo, his is more indicative of what mine looks like too -- I think the photo has an odd exposure.
Outlander Systems
08-23-09, 20:49
...you do realize that a LOT of people, especially around here, keep themselves in a general state of combat readines, in the event of invasion, terrorist attack, civil war, rebel uprisings, or even just roving packs of looters/rapists/murders during a state of panic... right?
Hear, hear!
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee192/SHIVAN308/Stuff/IMG_1851.jpg
nope.. you're definately not Terrell.
Outlander Systems
08-23-09, 20:55
I'd like to paint my "Oh Shit" gun, but I don't have the heart to do it.
That, and I guarantee the paintjob would be hosed.
I'd like to paint my "Oh Shit" gun, but I don't have the heart to do it.
That, and I guarantee the paintjob would be hosed.
a shitty paint job is the best paint job.. just nondescript shifts and blobs of color natural to your environment.
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/90/l_dd81cb6ba7be4ca5b5412b57080a55d2.jpg
Outlander Systems
08-23-09, 21:03
Example:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2573/3779866336_ea04313473_b.jpg
TheJanitor has put together the most awesome, amazing, arousing paint-scheme I've ever seen. Seriously.
SeriousStudent
08-23-09, 21:07
I've got a lot of black guns, I am no longer ignorant enough to presume that black is good "camo" for anything -- including night time movement.
A light tan color or a lighter gray is actually ideal for blending in.
Only one of my rifles is tan with foliage and green accent and it blends in nicely:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee192/SHIVAN308/Stuff/IMG_1851.jpg
The optic on my rifle is duracoat in the old Dark Earth, and you can see how dark it is. The MIAD grip is foliage but covered over lightly in khaki krylon, it still sticks out. The camo my friend and I are wearing is actually much lighter than it looks in the photo, his is more indicative of what mine looks like too -- I think the photo has an odd exposure.
I remember when you posted the pictures of that hunt a few years back.
Very nice antelopes. That's a tough beast to bring home.
Example: TheJanitor
That thing belongs in some sci-fi movie, in the hands of a snake eater.
He did that one just right, awesome paint job!
Example:
TheJanitor has put together the most awesome, amazing, arousing paint-scheme I've ever seen. Seriously.
now that's cool!
who's talking about need?
but if we are talking about need, you do realize that a LOT of people, especially around here, keep themselves in a general state of combat readines, in the event of invasion, terrorist attack, civil war, rebel uprisings, or even just roving packs of looters/rapists/murders during a state of panic... right? you can call that paranoid, and i can call you paranoid for wearing a seatbelt.
why not? it's fun and functional
yea...it's paranoid. how do know i wear a seatbelt?:D
Robb Jensen
08-24-09, 06:28
Which carbine is harder to see?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/competition%20pics/RobbArea8rifle3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/competition%20pics/DanArea8rifleprone.jpg
Obviously you can see both, but the painted tube does blend pretty well.
I couldn't really care less about the camo aspect. I have colored rifles (and even then it's only the plastic) so that they stand out from one another, and I have rationale for the color schemes in my own head (grey are "toys", green are something else, black are something else, etc.)
I also like the tan furniture, and tan nylon gear, because it just doesn't get as hot in the sun.
What blends in best for skulking around in the woods post-apocalypse? No idea, and zero interest..
Telecomtodd
08-24-09, 07:17
Looks like the Janitor has some cool stuff in his workshop. Now I wonder what else those janitors guys do down there...
While in Fallujah we were training the iraqi army. I was training a squad of iraqis how to patrol and how to be observant while doing so. I sent my buddy up ahead of our patrol route to set an ambush for us to see if any of the iraqis could find him. he chose a birm and layed on the opposite side of it in a spot the had a little dip in the ridge of the birm just big enough for his head and shoulders to fill in so that it appeared that the birm was continuous. he blended in perfectly and i could not see him at all except for the black dot that his rifle formed on the birm. This made me realize that painted rifles are not just "cool" but functional, and can make the differance between a successful or a blown ambush. While this scernario may never happen to any of us I think it is important to be prepared for.
ColdDeadHands
08-24-09, 08:31
While I like the Camo Paint jobs, I can't bring myself to paint my Carbines. I do however have a kit prepared, stored in a box In case I ever need to paint them.
its probably really unnecessary to have more than one rifle much less 4-5 or I couldn't imagine how many some of yall have.
I'd paint one if I had any talent at it and didn't screw it up in the process.
Example:
TheJanitor has put together the most awesome, amazing, arousing paint-scheme I've ever seen. Seriously.
a big plus one! never really wanted to paint any of my firearms until I saw that.
reminds me of dragon scales...
RancidSumo
08-24-09, 10:51
Very nice antelopes. That's a tough beast to bring home.
Not sure what you ment but around here (SW Wyoming) you could walk around and hit antelope with rocks.
As for painting, I want to try it on my next rifle but like many here I am afraid I will mess it up and my rifle will look terrible.
I like the look of black rifles, I like the look of rifles with different color furniture/accessories, and I like the look of camo painted--they all offer something a little different. I think it boils down to intended usage or in many cases just what you find appealing. The Janitors paint job is sick and the painted ar thread has all kinds of great examples. I thought the one below really illustrated vdegani1's point. Not my rifles, not my picture; I just swiped it from the painted thread.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_7rimYV6xX0I/SZJn_Bqnr-I/AAAAAAAAAEc/SeOkMv9scms/s640/IMG_0031.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7rimYV6xX0I/SZOYBTMqE9I/AAAAAAAAAJE/_amLAFFFBWQ/s640/IMG_0040.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_7rimYV6xX0I/SZOZAEU-O6I/AAAAAAAAAJ4/lZKxU9iWLBA/s640/IMG_0046.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7rimYV6xX0I/SZOZakpaexI/AAAAAAAAAK0/BIIkVpYkRic/s640/IMG_0053.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_7rimYV6xX0I/SZOZrw4TADI/AAAAAAAAALg/TMcQZZWllN0/s640/IMG_0058.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_7rimYV6xX0I/SZOZ0QtQpXI/AAAAAAAAALw/jiaXca4BGOQ/s640/IMG_0060.JPG
ignore the dates, camera was set incorrectly.
unless you're an operator of some kind or varmint sniper, there is no need to paint your rifle. truth is that 95% of the civilian AR owners are paper punchers. does not matter if you shoot 10 rounds per month or 10,000. now some look very cool painted up, but i could never bring myself to do such a thing.
Can also be said why do you need a Colt or a LMT if all your doing is punching paper. People get what they want and like. I don't think I have ever really needed anything I have, but when it's your money get what you want and the best you can "afford".
I also like the tan furniture, and tan nylon gear, because it just doesn't get as hot in the sun.
What blends in best for skulking around in the woods post-apocalypse? No idea, and zero interest..
Couldn't agree with you more.
Before I would have agreed with ARs must be black until I let my buddy try this on my M4. The paint is a special order "Light Tan Flat" 2400 series from Gunkote.
The color seems close to the Knight's SR-15 in limited run tan.
The stocks that will be used for the rifle will be in the lightest color of the 3 color camo.
Non-black is starting to grow on me.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/tangotag_bucket/IMG_4079.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/tangotag_bucket/IMG_4081.jpg
I never really liked camo ARs, but I've been seeing more and more that I really like lately. The Janitor's is definitely on that list.
A guy on the local forum I post on recently had his painted by Joe @ Hero-Gear in Winchester TN, and I'm pretty sure I fell in love w/ the scheme:
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/Goppingen58/Picture176.jpg?t=1250633622
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/Goppingen58/Picture188.jpg?t=1250633695
kaiservontexas
08-24-09, 20:18
Never thought about it blending in to things. I just like things to be different and not uniform all the time. I dig many of the schemes I see on this site.
Good point about black absorbing heat!
ztf HITMAN
08-24-09, 20:28
Great painted AR photos. I have nothing against either painted or black rifles...Definitely without a doubt, camo'ing your weapon is a tactical advantage, but if I ever had to actually USE it, it would be in my house and I doubt being black would have any impact on the end result.
On the other hand, those painted guns are some SWEET looking weapons! The Janitor's kinda makes me consider spraying my own...
How long does spray paint last? Any dirty looks from camo-haters at the range?
How long does spray paint last? Any dirty looks from camo-haters at the range?
Gunkote 2400 series, baked on, like on my rifle is impervious to Acetone and all bore cleaners, its a big step over Krylon.
Removal is done by media blasting. If I want to remove it I'd have to re-anodized the aluminum.
From KG Coatings data sheet on 2400: "Gun Kote 16/2 Flat Dark Earth was specified by the U.S. Military for use on SOCOM Special
Sniper Weapons (SPR’s) in 2003." If it's good enought for SOCOM its good enough for me.
I paint my gun because it's my gun. Works ok when hunting hogs in the hot, dry fields.
When using it under the sun for an entire day, it doesn't get as hot because it's not black anymore.
Krylon holds on ok, but it depends how much someone puts into preparation work. I didn't properly degrease my gun prior, so it's coming off at a lot of places. But heck, it's a tool, so I'm not picky about it anymore.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1926/sideanglem.jpg
Although black ARs look great, they all start looking the same after a while.
ThirdWatcher
08-25-09, 00:46
Which carbine is harder to see?
You make a good point.:)
TheJanitor has put together the most awesome, amazing, arousing paint-scheme I've ever seen. Seriously.
Yep! That is squared-the-F**k away.
Romeo Foxtrot
09-18-09, 09:53
I painted my AR tan and brown because no matter where you go, there is always going to be some tan, and some brown.
Not sure what you ment but around here (SW Wyoming) you could walk around and hit antelope with rocks.
That's no kidding! I went out with a buddy of mine last year and he had tags for 2 goats. 20 minutes out and he had one down. He set his painted rifle down and we started gutting that stinky bastard out. As soon as he got elbow deep into the blood, a nice goat comes to see what's going on. He scrambled to find his painted rifle, but it blended in pretty well. I sat there and laughed at his scrambling around. Mainly because he was about 4 foot from the damn rifle. Anything painted tan out here in Wyoming is looking to get lost if you set it down. Yes, I know, keep track of your shit. Anyways, it was funny to watch him scramble. Mine will stay black and OD for the forseeable future, but some of the paint schemes I've seen are down right amazing! I just don't have the talent to do such a thing.
I'll take mine 1/2 and 1/2
http://gallery.me.com/spaceflipper/100647/DSC_0040/web.jpg?ver=12461545910001
I LIKE THAT LOWER!
we may need to start requiring you guys to give up your secrets on what you are using to mask.
unless you're an operator of some kind or varmint sniper, there is no need to paint your rifle. truth is that 95% of the civilian AR owners are paper punchers. does not matter if you shoot 10 rounds per month or 10,000. now some look very cool painted up, but i could never bring myself to do such a thing.
You don't need to be some sort of "operator" or varmint hunter to paint your rifle.
I own an AR because I feel that I have an obligation as as adult citizen to be prepared to kill people and break shit in defense of my home, my neighbors, and my country. Just because it isn't likely that I'll need to so doesn't mean I won't prepare as best I can.
I have some paper-punching and plinking rifles, and no, I don't paint them.
MovinMan.......I like what you did there and your dust cover really makes a statement! LOL!!!
Here's mine.
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz229/Scoby/DSC00203Small.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz229/Scoby/DSC00204Small.jpg
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