Any info on the AAC M-4 1000?

[TheDutchman]

I was looking to get a M-4 1000 said to have less back pressure then the M-4 2000. Has any one used a M-4 1000 model? Thanks for the input.

[rsilvers]

Yes it has less back pressure.

It is $550 retail and the best deal out there because it is actually better than a 2006 M4-2000 (which I feel was the best can available in 2006 at any price.)

Basically when we added a bunch of features to the 2007 M4-2000 such as a new latch, tapered EDM bore, lighter weight, and a new construction method, we kept a version like the previous M4-2000 except a bit better because it benefits from the new CNC robot welder which ties every baffle to every spacer and to the end caps and tubes with full penetration structural welds.

I would bet that the M4-1000 is more durable than any can from any other maker at any price (including $800 to $1500 cans) except for some higher priced cans from AAC.

http://www.advanced-armament.com/flyers/m41000.pdf

[SHIVAN]

I haven't been following as closely as I should, it uses stainless steel throughout and no inconel like the M4-2000? Is that correct?

Limited full auto capable? Lighter than the previous M4-2000?

[rsilvers]

As I said, I would bet it is more durable than any can from any other maker and I would welcome anyone to test that. It is fully full-auto capable.

It is heavier than a 2007 M4-2000 but lighter than some past M4-2000s.

[TheDutchman]

Rsilvers how would the M-4 1000 compare to the 416-D or the Scar?

[rsilvers]

Rsilvers how would the M-4 1000 compare to the 416-D or the Scar?

Pretty close. The 416-D and SCAR have a tapered EDM bore which allows for a small bore in the rear to help sound reduction, and a larger bore in the front to reduce end-cap strikes during very heavy fire. EDM also allows concentricity of each baffle to each other baffle and to the mount to about 2/10000 of an inch. Runout in other brands can easily be 0.016 or more (80 times less accurate). This is one reason why we have the least POI shift of any brand as independently tested by a vendor who selected us for their partner.

The M4-1000 is a traditional bore. That is one of the reasons why the sound reduction specs for the M4-1000 are slightly worse than an M4-20007. Also the SCAR and 416-SD and M4-2007 have 316SS construction which is 20% stronger than the 304SS used in the M4-1000. However, that is more of a theoretical advantage as I have not been able to rupture any of the tubes even with repetitive Beta dumps on short barrels. Ops Inc, Gemtech, AWC, SWR, etc all use 304 and it is a good material. AAC used it for years for the M4-2000 up until 2006.

Keep in mind that the wall thickness of the back of the AAC cans is 0.100. This is twice as thick as the Ops Inc and 2.5 times as thick as the Surfire. You would think there would be a weight penalty for this insane level of durability, but because of careful packaging and the full-penetration CNC welds we were able to keep the overall weight down. The 416-SD is just 15 oz -- lighter than even the Surefire 556K.

Basically the SCAR and 416 just have all of the ultimate features we developed for various military groups and the M4-1000 has is more like an 2006 M4-2000 except with upgraded welding.

All the cans have a tube within a tube construction for redundancy and the inner tube is so strong that I have a video of me shooting a full auto mag dump on a 10 inch barrel without the main tube in place!

http://www.silencertalk.com/videos/core.wmv

[TheDutchman]

:D Thanks Rob

[tikkafan]

I just bought one today. Hopefully the paperwork goes quick and easy.

[rsilvers]

Cool. Why are you Tikkafan? Are you from Finland?

[tikkafan]

Cool. Why are you Tikkafan? Are you from Finland?


I have Finnish ancestors, but that's over 100 years ago. But I do like collecting Scandinavian guns, 5 and counting with 2 Finns.

[vincent_serna]

AAC has the worst customer service, I would go with GEMTECH

[rsilvers]

Gemtech's 5.56mm silencer is the G5. The M4-1000 is more durable and ligher and has more premium features and instead of $300 more, it is $300 less.

[SHIVAN]

....has more premium features and ... it is $300 less.

A VERY savvy business decision. :)

[Voodoochild]

You people aren't making it easy for me to decide on my first can!!!

[Sid Post]

AAC has the worst customer service, I would go with GEMTECH

Opinions vary. :rolleyes: So far AAC has done right by me. GemTech is a high class shop as well.

[TheDutchman]

i think i will get the M4- 1000. i will post it how i like it after getting the Tax stamp.

[tikkafan]

As soon as I get my M4-1000, I'll post a detailed evaluation. I'm doing a trust so hopefully it goes quick through the ATF. But I'm still waiting on the can to arrive at my dealer so I can get all that started.

[Steve-HSA]

You people aren't making it easy for me to decide on my first can!!!

Go with the M4-1000, you'll be happy. Excellent suppressor for the money.

[kbi]

The M4-1K doesnt look bad and the price is just right .


Id still like to try something out before Id buy it .