Winchester PDX1 40 S&W

[PLCedeno]

Is PDX1 Bonded (40 S&W 180 gr) the same as the Winchester Ranger item the FBI just adopted? Some of the advertising seems to imply it is.

[BuckskinJoe]

Is PDX1 Bonded (40 S&W 180 gr) the same as the Winchester Ranger item the FBI just adopted? Some of the advertising seems to imply it is.

According to a conversation I had earlier this year, right after the Shot Show, with Paul Nowak, Senior Technical Specialist at Olin-Winchester at the East Alton, IL plant, I believe it is. Actually, what he told me is the RA40B ammunition is the same as the Q4355--the designation for the FBI ammunition.

[DocGKR]

Directly from Winchester regarding Ranger Bonded vs. PDX1:


"In 38 special, 40 cal and 45 auto the projectiles are exactly the same. In 9mm the projectiles are different."

[tpd223]

The 9mms look the same to me, but I guess they built them, so what do I know.

[PLCedeno]

Doc would you consider the Winchester offering in 40 S&W-180 gr (PDX1, Q4355, etc) to be equal to HST's?

[DigMe]

Based on this thread:
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=26461

It seems like there were some inconsistencies in expansion through 4LD. I'm curious to see if DocGKR has done any further testing on it.

bc

[DocGKR]

One test with a bad lot is not significant and has occurred with many vendors and ammo types, including HST, Gold Dot, and Ranger Talon; the Win Ranger Bonded is a generally a good load, as proven in many tests and I would not feel bad about carrying it.