anyone use nfa-trusts.com or guntrustlawyer.com ?

[mikeith]

does anyone have any experience with either of these to setup a trust? i've never purchased a NFA item and i'm wanting to make sure i do it right. both sources say that they can make it so that the wait time is cut down from what can be a few months to a few weeks, and make it so that there is practically no chance of the pruchases being denied (such as a CLEO not signing off on it).

i'm wanting to do alot such as a couple SBS's and SBR's, buy an auto ar, a couple other auto's, and a few supressors

i'm ok with waiting a couple months each time but i dont wanna waste time filling everything out, then waiting a couple months JUST to be denied!

i've read the links in the stickies and got to this point and i'm still a little confused as to what a trust does and how it keeps me from having to get CLEO's signature.

so i'm looking for advice from both ends... people who have used them or someone similar and is it worth the $600 its going to cost to have it done. and people who haven't and did their own legwork was it easy an where do i start

[cdmiller]

I used guntrustlawyer after a friend who is an attorney told me to find someone who specializes in this field of legal practice to make sure everything is correct and there are not problems with ATF based on conversations he had with several people he knows at Justice (he is the General Council of corporation that has a high profile since it deals in a specific area of commerce and works in partnership with the Justice and Commerce Departments). He was originally going to do my trust for me as he has did my will and several other things but these converstions (apparently while in Peru on business) got him to look into the way ATF does some things and now Justice handles things ATF brings them. At that point is when he advised me to find a firearms law specialist. He also reviewed my trust after it was created and said it was one of the must comprehensive and well written of its type he had ever seen.

The people at guntrust lawyer were fast, efficient and great to work with including answering what seemed like hundreds of questions. Since the creation of a trust in a state requires a lawyer admitted to the bar in that state, guntrustlawyer set me up with one of their partner lawyers here in Texas to finialize the trust documens. She was awesome to deal with and will answer any questions I have at any time as part of the $600 flat fee. I have used this quite a bit and the price was definitely worth the piece of mind to me.

YMMV, however, as the partner lawyer you get paired with may be less "available". I really do not see this as that big of a deal as, after the trust is set up, the head office in FL will answer any questions you have about the NFA and anything else related as well but will occassional pass trustee/estate planning related questions to the lawyer in your state.

[cdmiller]

God my grammar sucked in the above post. Please forgive me as I have been awake way too long and am going to bed now.

[Iraqgunz]

Let me say this. Regardless of which way the trust is done, there is NO WAY to reduce the wait to a few weeks. I just received my 2nd suppressor using a trust and it still took about 90 days from start to finish.

My trust was done by the local FFL using Quicken Willmaker and I have had ZERO issues.

As for how the trust avoids the CLEO signature without getting into all the verbiage, it's pretty simple. You do a trust, and send it to BATFE along with the Form 4 or Form 1 and the payment and then you wait. Once it is approved and you receive the approval you are good to go.


does anyone have any experience with either of these to setup a trust? i've never purchased a NFA item and i'm wanting to make sure i do it right. both sources say that they can make it so that the wait time is cut down from what can be a few months to a few weeks, and make it so that there is practically no chance of the pruchases being denied (such as a CLEO not signing off on it).

i'm wanting to do alot such as a couple SBS's and SBR's, buy an auto ar, a couple other auto's, and a few supressors

i'm ok with waiting a couple months each time but i dont wanna waste time filling everything out, then waiting a couple months JUST to be denied!

i've read the links in the stickies and got to this point and i'm still a little confused as to what a trust does and how it keeps me from having to get CLEO's signature.

so i'm looking for advice from both ends... people who have used them or someone similar and is it worth the $600 its going to cost to have it done. and people who haven't and did their own legwork was it easy an where do i start

[rob_s]

the "gun trust lawyer" just recently celebrated his second anniversary as an attorney. personally, I'll use someone with just a little bit more experience, thanks.

[m4fun]

honestly a great concept - I hope it takes off. My LEO signs all, its just the actual passing down of the items I really like for the trusts and why I will get one when I can get my act together.