CA makes MA look like TX....50rnd per month limit

[WillBrink]

If this passes, will limit people to 50 rnds per month in CA! Makes MA (where I live...) look like TX! :doh:

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/asm/ab_0951-1000/ab_962_cfa_20090601_202837_asm_floor.html

SUMMARY : Requires, commencing July 1, 2010, that any person
that sells or transfers more than 50 rounds of handgun
ammunition in any month to register as a handgun ammunition
vendor. Specifically, this bill :

1)Provides that commencing July 1, 2010, no person shall sell or
transfer ownership of more than 50 rounds of handgun
ammunition in any month unless the person is licensed by the
Department of Justice (DOJ) as a licensed handgun ammunition
vendor, as specified.

2)Exempts the sale and transfer of ownership of handgun
ammunition by manufacturers or wholesalers to licensed
vendors.

3)Exempts sales or transfers of ownership of handgun ammunition
made by an authorized law enforcement representative of a
federal, state or local agency to a peace officer authorized
to carry a handgun in the course and scope of his or her
duties.

4)Exempts the sale or transfer of ownership of handgun
ammunition to representatives of a federal, state, or local
agency, if written authorization by the head of the agency
authorizing the transaction, is presented to the vendor of
handgun ammunition.

5)Exempts the sale or transfer of ownership of handgun
ammunition state and local entities in which the entity is
acquiring the ammunition as part of an authorized program in
which the entity is buying or receiving ammunition from
private individuals.

6)Exempts the sale or transfer of ownership of handgun
ammunition between immediate family members, spouses, or
registered domestic partners.

7)Provides that a violation of provisions relating to the sale
and transfer of handgun ammunition is a misdemeanor.

8)Authorizes the DOJ to issue handgun ammunition vendor
licenses.

9)Provides that no ammunition handgun vendor license may be
issued to an applicant who fails to provide a copy of any
required local business license, a seller's permit, a federal
firearms license if the person is federally licensed, and a
certificate of eligibility (COE). The handgun ammunition
vendor's license shall be issued for a specific physical
location where the sale or transfer of ownership of handgun
ammunition is to be conducted.

10)Requires the DOJ to inform applicants who are denied licenses
of the reason for the denial in writing.

11)Requires the handgun ammunition vendor license to be issued
in a form prescribed by the Attorney General (AG) and shall be
valid for a period of one year, and authorizes the AG to adopt
regulations to administer application procedures and
procedures for licensees

12)Allows the DOJ to charge handgun ammunition vendors license
applicants a fee sufficient for the costs or reimbursing the
DOJ for the cost of administering the handgun license program,
maintaining the registry of handgun ammunition vendors, and
necessary regulatory functions, including enforcement,
provided that the fee shall not exceed $50.

13)Requires the DOJ to issue licenses for the following
applicants:

a) State-licensed firearms dealers;

b) Federally licensed firearms dealers;

c) A target facility which holds a business or regulatory
license;

d) Gunsmiths;

e) Wholesalers; and,

f) Manufacturers or importers of firearms, as specified.

14)Requires the DOJ to keep a centralized registry of all
persons, businesses, and corporations who are vendors, and
provides that no vendor shall transfer ownership of handgun
ammunition pursuant to their licenses unless the vendor is on
the centralized registry.

15)Allows the DOJ to remove any vendor from the registry who
violates any provisions relating to the transfer and sale of
handgun ammunition.

16)Provides that the license of any vendor that violates
provisions relating to the sale or transfer of ammunition
three times shall be permanently revoked, and notice of the
revocation shall be provided to local law enforcement and
licensing authorities in the jurisdiction where the vendor's
business is located.

17)States that information contained in the centralized registry
of handgun ammunition vendors shall be made available for law
enforcement purposes, or when the information is requested for
the purpose of determining the validity of handgun ammunition
deliveries or transfers

18)Provides that a handgun ammunition vendor shall comply with
all of the following conditions, requirements and
prohibitions:

a) A vendor shall not permit an employee who is prohibited
from possessing a firearm, or has been assessed as a danger
to his or her self or others, to handle, sell, or deliver
ammunition in the scope of his or her employment;

b) Requires an employee of a vendor, who becomes an
employee after July 1, 2010, and who handles, sell or
transfers handgun ammunition, to provide to the vendor a
certificate of eligibility obtained from the DOJ and the
request must be made within 45 days of employing the
individual; and,

c) Requires an employee of a vendor who becomes an employee
on or before July 1, 2010 and who handles, sells, or
delivers handgun ammunition to provide to the vendor a COE
obtained from the DOJ no later than August 15, 2010.

17)Commencing July 1, 2010, a vendor of handgun ammunition shall
not sell or transfer ownership of any handgun ammunition in a
manner that allows that ammunition to be accessible to a
purchaser without the assistance of the vendor or employee
thereof.

18)Provides that commencing July 1, 2010, a vendor of handgun
ammunition shall not sell or transfer handgun ammunition
without at the time of purchase legibly recording the
following information on a form prescribed by the DOJ:

a) The date of the transaction;

b) The transferee's driver's license or other
identification number and the state in which it was issued;

c) The brand, type, and amount of ammunition transferred;

d) The purchaser or transferee's signature;

e) The name of the salesperson who processed the sale or
transaction;

f) The right thumbprint of the purchaser or transferee on
the prescribed form;

g) The purchaser's or transferee's full residential address
and telephone number; and,

h) The purchaser's or transferee's date of birth.

19)Commencing July 1, 2010, the records of the sale or transfer
of handgun ammunition shall be maintained on the premises of
the vendor for at least five years from the date of the
recorded transfer.

20)Commencing July 1, 2010, the handgun ammunition vendor's
records of sale shall be subject to inspection by specified
peace officers engaged in an investigation where the records
may be relevant, is seeking information about prohibited
persons, or is engaged in ensuring compliance with laws
relating to firearms or ammunition.

21)Commencing July 1, 2010, a handgun ammunition vendor shall
not knowingly make a false entry in, fail to make a required
entry in, fail to obtain the required thumbprint, or otherwise
fail to maintain the records of handgun ammunition transfers
or sales.

22)Commencing July 1, 2010, no vendor shall refuse to permit
specified peace officers to examine any record related to the
transfer or sale of handgun ammunition, or refuse to permit
the use of these record by those persons.

23)Exempts from providing specified information at the time of
purchase or transfer of ownership of handgun ammunition by
licensed handgun ammunition vendors to any of the following
who are properly identified in a manner prescribed by the DOJ:

a) A licensed firearms dealers;

b) A licensed handgun ammunition vendor;

c) A federally licensed firearms dealer;

d) A target facility which holds a business or regulatory
license;

e) Gunsmiths;

f) Wholesalers;

g) Manufacturers or importers of firearms, as specified;

h) Sales or transfers of ownership of handgun ammunition
made to authorized law enforcement representatives if
written authorization from the employing the agency is
presented to the person from whom the purchase is being
made; and,

i) Sales or transfers of ownership of handgun ammunition by
licensed handgun ammunition vendors to sworn peace
officers, as specified.

24)Provides that specified violations relating to the
maintenance of records of handgun ammunition transfers or
sales shall be punished as a misdemeanor.

25)Makes it a misdemeanor for any person who is subject to an
injunction for being a member of a criminal street gang to
own, possess, or have under his or her custody or control, any
ammunition or reloaded ammunition.

26)Provides that a sale of any ammunition by a person,
corporation or firm to a person prohibited from owning or
possessing ammunition, or to a person he or she reasonably
should know is a prohibited person, is punishable by up to one
year in the county jail, by a fine not to exceed $1,000, or
both.

27)Provides that commencing July 1, 2010, the sale or transfer
of handgun ammunition may only occur in a face-to-face
transaction with the seller or transferor being provided with
bona fide evidence of identity from the purchaser, and a
violation of this provision is a misdemeanor.

28)Defines "bona fide evidence of identity" as a document issued
by a federal, state, county, or municipal government, or
agency thereof, including, but not limited to, a motor vehicle
operator's license, California state identification card,
identification card issued to a member of the armed forces, or
other form of identification that bears the name, date of
birth, description, and picture of the person.

29)Defines "handgun ammunition" as ammunition principally for
concealed upon the person, as defined, notwithstanding that
the ammunition may also be used in some rifles, but excluding
ammunition intended to be used in antique firearms. Handgun
ammunition does not include blanks used in prop weapons.

30)Provides that the face-to-face requirement shall not apply to
the delivery of ammunition to law enforcement agencies, sworn
peace officers, importers and manufacturers of firearms,
licensed ammunition vendors, licensed firearms dealers or
collectors, and consultant evaluators as specified.

FISCAL EFFECT : According to the Assembly Appropriations
Committee, DOJ projects start-up costs of about $700,000, with
ongoing costs of $60,000 for seven positions. DOJ indicates
these costs would eventually be covered by the $50 fee and
employer payments to DOJ for the cost of the COEs.

COMMENTS : According to the author, "AB 962 the Protection Act of
2009 seeks to safeguard California's communities by combating
the easy accessibility to handgun ammunition that fuels gun
violence and criminal activity."

[kmrtnsn]

Although it is crappy legislation it does not limit purchases to 50 rounds a month. It says that if a seller sells more than 50 rounds a month then the seller will have to be registered with CA-DOJ.

[RancidSumo]

This already passed 44-31 and now it is up to the governor to veto it.

I feel sorry for those who don't live in free states.

[mech_eng]

With all the problem's CA has now you would think this is the last thing politians would be concerned with. I can't believe people aren't making noise about this.

[Safetyhit]

Pure stupidity. I mean baseless garbage that actually once again focus's on the wrong people.

Are the scumbags who murder with firearms out there training? Do they sell ammo wholesale out of their homes? No, they carry their little piece of shit .32 around in their pockets with the same rounds they have had since they acquired the weapon and will only get to use them when they shoot at someone.

Why would they give a crap if they are limited to 50 rounds? Stupid, stupid, stupid.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Headline should read:

"New law only let's you shoot 50 people per month"



The DOJ card will be the new "I'm Cool Card".

[DocHolliday01]

I wish all the good people of that state would just leave and the rest of them can float away along with that worthless ****ing state.

[Iraqgunz]

Not only is it bad legislation, but it will KILL all mail ordering of ammo in the state. In addition I believe that the simple act of giving more than 50 rounds to another person is punishable. Devil is in the details. I predict that residents of Cali will drive to neighboring states like they are now and purchase ammo and bring it home. Of course then the state of California won't set check stations for fruit anymore, but rather ammo checkpoints.

1)Provides that commencing July 1, 2010, no person shall sell or
transfer ownership of more than 50 rounds of handgun
ammunition in any month unless the person is licensed by the
Department of Justice (DOJ) as a licensed handgun ammunition
vendor, as specified.




Although it is crappy legislation it does not limit purchases to 50 rounds a month. It says that if a seller sells more than 50 rounds a month then the seller will have to be registered with CA-DOJ.

[thatgirl]

I wish all the good people of that state would just leave and the rest of them can float away along with that worthless ****ing state.


We're moving out ASAP!!! California will get nuked far before it floats away. Either way, I don't wanna be here when the SHTF ;)

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Are gang-banger really high volume ammo users? Do Remington and Federal vie every year for the Bloods and Crips ammo contracts???

It aint the bullets, its the brains behind it.

[DocHolliday01]

We're moving out ASAP!!! California will get nuked far before it floats away. Either way, I don't wanna be here when the SHTF ;)

Good for you. ;)

[1859sharps]

The bill was heavily modified removing many of the most objectionable parts. but obviously not all

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/asm/ab_0951-1000/ab_962_bill_20090904_amended_sen_v96.html

basically they removed anything that would cost the state money. like requiring a license to sell more then 50 rounds in a month.

The ban on internet sales survived.

as for abandoning California, this is not really an option. as the saying goes, as California goes, so goes the nation.

It is in the best interests in those who oppose laws such as AB 962 to help pro second amendment Californians defeat such bills and to not turn your back on us. If you think what goes on in California will stay isolated to California your mistaken. if you continue to take the "write off California" attitude and think you are safe in a free state you may some day wake up and fine our crazy laws are now your crazy laws. Example, the Federal Assault Weapons law of 1994, which has fortunately expired but it was heavily pushed and supported by our "wonderful" Senators.

[LockenLoad]

With all the problem's CA has now you would think this is the last thing politians would be concerned with. I can't believe people aren't making noise about this.

they elected Nancy Pelosi, need I say more