Iran Test Fires Short-Range Missiles

[Business_Casual]

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20090927/D9AVMK180.html

Proof that the Obama strategic diplomacy of weakness and appeasement is not working?

M_P

[loupav]

You mean a simple 'please' and 'thank you' aren't good enough?:confused:

[Safetyhit]

I would at least appear that the pressure on Iran is nearing critical mass. Think we will be seeing plumes of smoke on the news soon after Israel hits them with bunker-busters with the covert consent of NATO.

Hope so, anyway.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

The problem is that Acknijinadad can point at Gudaffi and say with a straight face that he is not the craziest guy at the UN.

PS.- I can't wait till the 22nd century when we move on to bad guys whose names I can spell.

[Artos]

I personally think Israel is at the end of her rope....where's the popcorn??

[wargasm]

It's getting close!

[blhar15]

I think we are within a few months of Israel taking action. They do not have a choice. The rest of the world just seems to want to talk about sanctions that never happen, the whole while Iran has had plenty of time to build up their nuclear arsenal.

There are way to many pacifists in political power these days. No body seems to be learn from history. Neville Chamberlain was a pacifist and did the same thing and miscalculated Hitler's intentions and see where it got Great Britain back in WWII.

[Gentoo]

If the reports circulating that Saudi Arabia will turn a blind eye to Israels actions are accurate, we are definitely going to see Israel do something in the next few months.

[M4arc]

To be fair Iran hasn't listened or spoken to any US President since Peanut Jimmy (or maybe before). Our diplomacy in that area sucked in the past, sucks now and will suck in the future. Let's not blame President Obama.

Iran has always done whatever the hell they've wanted to do and there doesn't appear to be any country capable of working with them.

[Safetyhit]

To be fair Iran hasn't listened or spoken to any US President since Peanut Jimmy (or maybe before). Our diplomacy in that area sucked in the past, sucks now and will suck in the future. Let's not blame President Obama.

Iran has always done whatever the hell they've wanted to do and there doesn't appear to be any country capable of working with them.



No doubt you are right, but I think there may be more than meets the eye here. It is possible that things are a bit different now, but we just don't perceive it. I also think the leaders of the West may have finally have had enough as we near the point of no return.

In other words, I can see Obama and our allies giving Israel full consent to hit Iran on a covert basis while maintaining a more neutral front so as not to inflame the other muslim nations. An old tactic used amongst other countries before on many levels.

Diplomacy is an overt joke at this point. Nobody could still be stupid enough to really suspect otherwise. Even those on the left.

[Mo_Zam_Beek]

Stealing from the play book of NK, the Iranians view Geneva as a test bed. Barry and the crew are spinning a fairytale of workable solutions in the form of U.S. officials are focusing for now on diplomatic efforts, but the White House is considering sanctions targeting Iran's dependence on gasoline imports and insurance firms that underwrite the trade.

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSDAH02494820090930?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=11619

On the issue of Gas importation - umm...maybe it isn't that simple. http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090929/wl_time/08599192665500

What Barry and the Obummertones overlook is that Iran is #3 in oil reserves and # 2 in production according to the EIA.http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/Iran/Oil.html Scroll down and look at the list of countries Iran exports to - note how many are allies? Think we may need to grease a few palms to ensure compliance? Think we can afford it? Think China is interested? 2009 data shows Iranian imports account for a little more than 15% of China's oil, 12% for Japan, 17% for India - effectively low to mid teens for all of those countries.

Reflect on how naive this proposed strategy is in light of just these two stories:

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE58T1TD20090930

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousivMolt/idUSTRE58T17Y20090930

M4 - while what you say may be true on face, it doesn't tell the whole story. Bush2 is the real subject of that criticism (rightly so) however at some points it can be argued he had bigger fish to fry. Moreover as noted by the first Reuters story, when he did turn to address it the other side of the isle politicized it and down played it. In fact in the pre election run up the national intel assessment was altered to discredit Bush2's warnings and favor Barry and the Ds. The Brits and the rest of the world knew the truth all along and Barry was made aware (as if he and the rest of the high ranking Ds didn't already know) in December. Barry owns this. Barry has owned it even before it was his b/c of the actions of his handlers. Barry will f*ck this up. The only question is to what degree?


Good luck

[huklbrry]

Does Iran have the money to rebuild if/when Israel launches their strike? Or would it cost too much for them to go on with their plans for nuclear capability?