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I can get this S&W with no sights for $799 from a buddy who is an FFL. By the time I pay tax and put sights on it, it's just under $1000.
This will be my first AR, and I want something good, but don't have unlimited funds either. :cool:
Thanks for any suggestions.
http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=37899
Available now...
That price seems to be the going rate, come out better ordering it online and paying shipping and transfer fee.
Same gun, but with a Troy rear sight and a standard front sight runs $850 through G&R Tactical. The total with shipping and a local FFL's transfer fee would likely be under $900:
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=311002
Same gun, but with a Troy rear sight and a standard front sight runs $850 through G&R Tactical. The total with shipping and a local FFL's transfer fee would likely be under $900:
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=311002
This or for a little better
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=16M_RIFLE&reference=/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi%3Fsearch%3Daction%26keywords%3D%26searchstart%3D9%26template%3DPDGCommTemplates/FullNav/SearchResult.html%26category%3DBCOM
or for a bit more than that and more what I would do
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=M4CARBINE
OK - looks like I need to keep shopping.
BTW, that BCM middy looks really sweet. Is that a solid rifle for the money? Thats pushing 6920 pricing or Daniel Defense XV...
Here is a better deal.
https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=1545
Here is a better deal.
https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=1545
I would have to saw no.
C4
RancidSumo
10-04-09, 22:41
^^^Lol, I can tell that recommendation is going to go over big.
Just to add, I don't know how good the S&W rifles are as I have no first hand experience with them (from what I have read, they are a solid platform) but I can say that for another $100 or so you could build up a BCM like I did a few months ago or maybe even cheaper with the deals that came up on G&R two weeks later. My rifle has been running great with between 500-1000rds, no cleaning, no malfunctions.
I would have to saw no.
C4
What are you basing that on? I was looking at the what you are getting for the money.
OK - looks like I need to keep shopping.
BTW, that BCM middy looks really sweet. Is that a solid rifle for the money? Thats pushing 6920 pricing or Daniel Defense XV...
Absolutely. I'm in the process of putting one together right now. I would put it's quality up against the XV's or 6920's any day.
OP and I are in the same boat.
Im about 90% set on the BCM middy from G&R. looks like a solid buy with quality throughout
RancidSumo
10-05-09, 16:23
What are you basing that on? I was looking at the what you are getting for the money.
He is probably going off of the fact that for <$100 more you can get a BCM Middy. I know the price is actually $200 more but it also comes with a Troy BUIS so that brings it down ~$125.
I would have to saw no.
C4
I agree BIG time... Go with the BCM for the money. Any day, any time over a RRA. For what its worth, I have a S&W MP15A but had I had the little bit extra and Grant had had this special when I bought mine, I would be a BCM owner today.
SWATcop556
10-05-09, 20:17
What are you basing that on? I was looking at the what you are getting for the money.
Caliber: .223⁄5.56mm NATO Chamber Upper Receiver: Forged A4 Probably a .223 chamber. I have yet to see a RRA with a true 5.56 chamber.
Barrel: 16″ Chrome Lined, 1:9 Twist Inferior twist rate that has been discussed here to the point of making people cry.
Muzzle Device: A2 Flash Hider / 1⁄2−28 Thread
Trigger: Two Stage match Not recommended for a fighting gun.
Handguard: Mid-Length Handguard Pistol Grip
Buttstock: A2 Grip / A2 Buttstock
Weight/Length: 7.1 pounds/35.25 inches
Accuracy: 1 MOA at 100 yards So are most rifles with quality ammo.
Also a BCG that is NOT HPT/MPI inspected.
BCM rifle comes with Troy/BCM rear sight. RRA has no rear sight.
RRA rifles and their inferior parts have been listed, cussed, and discussed here over and over.
And the usual response..........................I refer back to The Chart.
I am not a huge fan of Rock River. As a matter of fact all of my M4s are either Colt or Noveske, because I ONLY use quality products. I like BCM, not my favorite, but he was said he was trying to not spend a lot of money. Hell, if that is the case then get a complete LMT seen Here:
http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=1040
It is only $250 more and comes with a sight also, and it is a LMT.
I know of LMT's priced better than that, so I'm thinking of going that route, or the BCM middy.
Also have read good stuff about the CMMG middy for under $950.
I'm in no hurry. Thanks for the feedback. :cool:
What are you basing that on? I was looking at the what you are getting for the money.
I am basing it on the technical specs, quality and many years of fixing RRA AR's.
What are you basing your opinion on?
C4
Absolutely. I'm in the process of putting one together right now. I would put it's quality up against the XV's or 6920's any day.
me too Cpecz. I"ve got one I'll put side beside the the best of them.I've bult my share over the years and with the quality parts I bought and my attention to detail during assembly.
I'm sure my M4 is almost as good if not better than most Colts or anything else for that matter.
Plus Trial by Fire.
It's been shot nearly 4000 rounds not a hiccup.I do use quality ammunition though.
I changed out at (3500 rnds) my BCM extractor spring ,Black insert and O ring with another just like it.'I put it in a bag I have for used parts that aint broke yet.
I'm setting a service schedule and keeping a list of what I change out and install and how many rounds were shot.
I want to be proactive instead of reactive.Just like when my bolt gets 10000 rounds on it I'm going to change it out whether it's broke or not.
Oh and I changed the gas rings out at 3000 rnds.
Get a Daniel Defense XV which blows away the S&W, RRA, and CMMG. You can find it for $999. Plus you then get a $250 DD blackcard gift card which let's you get anything DD. ( like an Omega rail).
Now that is a sweet deal and blows away the competition.
I have been very pleased with the DD. It is full mil-spec along with extras like: flared magwell, sweet buis, pmag, m16 bcg, CHF barrel, and lifetime warranty.
It's a NO-BRAINER!
Who's selling DD XV's for $999?
I dont know where in AZ you are but Sportsmans W. had the Smith Magpul rifle. Much more gun for $999.00
That gun has no sights, shitty stock, goofy looking block on the front.....Just pick any other descent gun. That may be the ugliest AR on the planet.
I am basing it on the technical specs, quality and many years of fixing RRA AR's.
What are you basing your opinion on?
C4
Price, just price. He said he did not want to spend that much and I was giving a cheaper alternative that is also of better quality.
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