ID this weaponlight?

[chapperjoe]

is it a light even?

http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/ap/IRAQ-6.sff_BAG112_20070221080551.jpg

A British army soldier patrols a street in Basra, 550 kilometers (340 miles) southeast of Baghdad, Iraq, Wednesday, Feb. 21, 2007. Britain will withdraw some troops from Iraq in coming months if local forces can secure the southern part of the country, Prime Minister Tony Blair said Wednesday. (AP Photo/Nabil al-Jurani)

http://i16.tinypic.com/2rq0s5k.jpg

[C4IGrant]

Interesting. I have never seen this light before.


C4

[K.L. Davis]

Oerlikon Contraves LLM

[C4IGrant]

Oerlikon Contraves LLM

Got any other info? Specs?


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[Chris_C]

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=Oerlikon%20Contraves%20LLM&btnG=Google+Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

Google link...lots of pics

[chapperjoe]

wow. thanks guys..... cool :D

http://www.defensereview.com/stories/adt/cammoLLM01.jpg

http://www.defensereview.com/stories/adt/SF1.jpg

http://www.defensereview.com/stories/adt/CloseLLM01.jpg

http://www.defensereview.com/stories/adt/sf3.jpg

New Military-Grade Tactical Laser Aimer/White Light Introduced to U.S.
Posted on Friday, February 03 @ 18:38:20 PST by davidc

Sighting and Night Vision Equipment
by David Crane
david@defensereview.com

Photos below are of German KSK (German military Special Forces) and Dutch Special Forces operators with the Oerlikon Contraves Laser Light Module (LLM 01) tactical aiming laser/white light (laser aiming device/tactical white light) attached to their weapons. Click on photos below to view them full-size. The following is an Advance Defense Technologies (ADT) press release for the LLM-01.:

The Laser Light Module 01 (LLM 01), manufactured by Oerlikon Contraves GmbH (OCG) of Stockach, Germany, is a small-arms active aiming device/tactical white light (a.k.a. laser aiming device/tactical white light) with a target marker and a target illuminator in the near infrared region, and a target marker and flashlight in the visible range. The LLM-01 visible/IR tactical aiming laser/white light was designed and developed specifically for military Special Operations Direct Action missions and law enforcement SWAT operations to allow these operators to engage in rapid, accurate, day and night firing at fast-appearing/fast-moving targets and for overt/covert situational awareness after dark or in dark spaces. With the flick of a switch, it goes from visible white light and red marker (singly or jointly) to infrared illuminator and marker: if your goggles slip off or quit on you, you may switch to visible in a fraction of a second.

Oerlikon Contraves is known worldwide for its targeting systems and fire-control systems. While Oerlikon’s competitors were still hesitating to make the leap from flashlights to red target markers, OCG had designed, manufactured and field-trialed with the German Army the LLM-01, a multiple-source active aiming aid that quickly became standard issue and was nicknamed “the rifleman’s best friend” after extended tours of duty in Bosnia and Afghanistan. The LLM 01 found both acceptance and combat opportunities also with the…



British SAS, in Afghanistan and Iraq. Elite police forces worldwide use the LLM-01. Close partnership with its customers and feedback from the combat field allowed Oerlikon to constantly improve the LLM-01’s performance in the most delicate Special Operations missions as well as in urban warfare where it is truly a force multiplier.

So, what can those 7 ounces of German electro-optical engineering could contribute to a tactical operator’s effectiveness as in close quarters battle (CQB) scenarios? During daytime operations, the LLM-01 can make the transition from bright daylight to the darkness of a shooting house much easier both to the naked eye and to the eye assisted by night-vision goggles. During nighttime operations, the LLM-01’s target markers allow the tactical operator to put a visible or infrared (IR) dot on a moving, low contrast targets such as jack rabbit and hardly ever miss a shot. In a very dark enclosed space, or in a very dark night, the diffused IR illuminator finds quickly the bad guys and the IR target marker makes missing almost impossible. Experienced LLM 01 users have commented on their ability to place a highly-visible red dot on target from non-shouldered firing positions (even one-handed shots) and score fast hits at combat-relevant conditions in both daylight and night conditions with the LLM01.

Standard LLM-01 features include:

-- a target marker in the near infrared region

--a target illuminator in the near-infrared region (diffuse and long-range)

--a visible red target marker

--a white light high-intensity flashlight with optional red and IR filter, to cover all basic tactical situations.


*The two target markers can be independently boresighted in azimuth and elevation.*


Not-so-basic tactical situations and special operational requirements are covered by different software configurations and a full allowance of accessories going from Shape Generators to Remote Trigger Cables, from simple snap-on tubes (to reduce the chances of off-axis observation of the laser markers) to three types of Laser Heads of different intensity and wavelength to be field-attached to the unit in place of the visible flashlight. Also the Laser Heads’ beam can be boresighted in elevation and azimuth.

The modular design of the LLM 01 allows the quick adaptation of this aiming aid to a variety of weapons, environments and mission requirements, including laser illumination for targeting purposes to better than 2,000 meters.

And, the LLM-01 is the only device in its class providing an easy way to regulate laser power in 5 steps to comply with different eye safety regulations and accommodate training and tactical situations.

The LLM-01 is fastened to its weapon’s rail via an integral quick-clamping weapon adapter tailored to the rail’s configuration. The LLM01 maintains alignment even after repeated removal and fastening events from and to the same weapon.

The LLM-01 is hardened against battlefield EMC, including jamming, electro-magnetic fields, and against electrostatic discharges. The standard LLM 01 is watertight to a depth of 20 meters; for special missions it can be supplied watertight to 30 meters.

The LLM-01 is a modular, microprocessor-configurable, user-friendly, rugged, combat-proven aiming aid indispensable to the warfighter and law enforcer engaged in difficult tactical situations where the first shot on the right target must count.

The LLM01 is truly "the rifleman's best friend", can even be utilized on duty-sized pistols (secondary weapons).

The LLM 01 is in mass production and price competitive with all similar US-made devices.

Advance Defense Technologies (ADT) of Westlake Village, California, is the sole Representative and Distributor of Oerlikon Contraves GmbH (OCG) laser-based active aiming aids, such as the LLM-01, in the United States. If you would like to inquire about the LLM-01 or any of Oerlikon's other laser-aiming devices/tactical white lights, ADT can be contacted by phone at 805-778-7590, or by fax at 805-778-1591.
The following are ADT's contact email addresses:

Sales -- sales@advancedefense.net

General Information -- info@advancedefense.net

Military Contact -- mil@advancedefense.net

Law Enforcement Contact -- lawe@advancedefense.net

looks a bit bulky on the glock though!

http://www.rheinmetall-defence.com/img/product/oc_pistole_two_light_off_pr.jpg

[fivepointoh]

awesome but that has got to cost an assload...this would be much better than a separate light and OTAL/ITAL

[Germanfritze]

Have use such a LLM 01 in my active duty in the German Bundeswehr, real nice piece of equipment. But really too expensive (and forbidden for civilian use in Germany) for civilians and their usage. The white light on that device is not so good as an equivalent Surefire weapon lamp, but the connection of all options does it on the LLM!
In European coutries where it is legal to own such devices the price is in the 1.200-1.500,- Euro region for a new piece!

[JSantoro]

awesome but that has got to cost an assload...this would be much better than a separate light and OTAL/ITAL

Not automatically.

Only if they put a GOOD white light on it. That's not generally the case with a MFAL that includes a white light, though it's been identified as a weakness for such systems for long enough....

These, the PEQ-16, and the PEQ-16A used incandescents, which were 1) relatively fragile, and 2) battery hogs. Infantrymen are infantrymen the world over, and they'll use their weaponlights as primary lights instead of handhelds (unless taught otherwise; not common...), then later have the nerve to be surprised that their dumb asses drained their batteries to the point that they couldn't use the lasers, any more, perhaps when they really needed them to function.

Once LED lamps got better and started to come forward, the white light being a huge drain is becoming LESS of a problem, but there's other concerns.

IF they'd managed to design it so that if you lose the laser functionality, you lose the light, and vice-versa....(note that the blurb in the above post is from 2003; I found a Defense Review blurb from 2006, when the LLM hit the US market...David Crane was tonguing somebody's rusty sheriff's badge in that one, too...TOTALLY out of the ordinary for that guy :rolleyes: ) There's yet to be a laser/light combo that's managed to solve that weakness. With pretty much all of them, if you lose any one thing, the whole thing is down. Having separate lasers/lights is going to remain a more reliable and a more workable solution until somebody can fix that.

That's not a "this thing's a POS...!" statement, but the idea that The One Ring To Rule Them All = Good Idea is a workable concept in terms of smartphones...but only up to a point. Ya want a bigger screen to watch Dexter, you can do that on a small screen, but to have the experience be worth a damn (i.e., achieve a desired effect in an efficient manner), you're probably better off just getting a tablet (i.e., separate system)...

That margin of error is slimmer, when it comes to optics....unless one wants to make it prohibitively expensive. Nor sould I presume "pah, it's European crap...!" It's not, and it's not like the US-made Insight PEQ-16A is any prize, either, for the same reasons.....

[markm]

This is thread is over 5 years old. :fie:

[JSantoro]

Gyah, totally missed it.....thanks, man.

Which is particularly dumb, since I mentioned 2003 and 2006 dates, myself...