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marh415
10-11-09, 11:46
I am ordering my upper receiver on Tuesday, so I have to decide on which one.

Help me out here, what are the pro's and con's if any?
LOKNLOD
10-11-09, 12:32
I don't think there is a "wrong" answer here, but I prefer the mid-length. Many will cite a softer recoil impulse and less stress on the bolt, both due to the longer gas system resulting in lower pressures and less violent cycling. True but I think it is less noticeable unless you are a high-volume shooter. In a standard configuration, I like the longer handguards, they allow better hand placement especially with a light. Of course if you add oversized railed handguards over a lo-pro gas block then that aspect is a toss up. Honestly I don't think the carbine gas system holds any advantage over a midlength in a 16" carbine, unless you're trying to make it match a another rifle that's a carbine setup (like maybe an issued weapon).
zachsm
10-11-09, 12:35
I am ordering my upper receiver on Tuesday, so I have to decide on which one.

Help me out here, what are the pro's and con's if any?


If you're going for a 16'', middy is the way to go. You still have room to go down to 14.5.

If you're getting anything shorter than that, get the carbine.

There are a trillion threads about carbine vs middy. Look them up.
DTHN2LGS
10-11-09, 15:27
LOKNLOD pretty much covered it. I personally chose the BCM 16" Midlength and love it FWIW. :)
Dunderway
10-12-09, 01:24
I would get a 16" midlength, or possibly a pinned 14.5 BCM from G&R if you want it for home defense. I would choose either way before a 16" carbine.
Blob
10-12-09, 09:26
Don't forget about the midlength's longer sight radius.
C4IGrant
10-12-09, 09:37
Middy all the way. No comparison.



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rob_s
10-12-09, 09:47
With the profiles of the two barrels currently available I would take the mid-length.

Once BCM gets their lightweight barrels to market an argument could be made for sticking with carbine-length as it will allow for an overall lighter carbine.
Lumpy196
10-12-09, 09:53
Once BCM gets their lightweight barrels to market an argument could be made for sticking with carbine-length as it will allow for an overall lighter carbine.


How much lighter?
rob_s
10-12-09, 10:06
Hard to say, really. I guess I could weigh a carbine-length handguard and gas tube and a mid-length and see what the differences are. But it's as much about where the weight falls (on the support hand almost entirely) as how much it is.

I'm thinking of a lightweight gun in this case for a smaller-statured person like a woman or child.
marh415
10-12-09, 10:15
I would get a 16" midlength, or possibly a pinned 14.5 BCM from G&R if you want it for home defense. I would choose either way before a 16" carbine.

Are 14.5 barrels legal as far as NFA rules apply? I have seen CMMG with pinned FH's that met the legal length. Is this the same idea?
NoBody
10-13-09, 21:04
You can permanently pin the flash hider and you're good to go as long as your overall length (barrel + flash hider) is at least 16 inches. This avoids the NFA issue.
Sierrahotel83
10-13-09, 21:09
I personally wish I hadn't gone the route of a 14.5 with phantom flashhider as unless I pay to hwve the flashhider machined off amd rethread the barrel I am limited on what I can do to my rifle.:(
marh415
10-13-09, 21:49
Well thanks for the replies, I now have a BCM middy on the way. :D
Now it's which BUIS to get, I'm leaning towards a Troy right now. :rolleyes:
Robb Jensen
10-13-09, 21:55
With 14.5"-16" barrels, midlength is 'the way'.

I'll post pics of my BCM midlengths that I use for 3gun soon. 16" stainless for 'Tactical' (scoped rifle) division and chrome lined for 'Limited' (iron sights only).
DTHN2LGS
10-13-09, 22:02
Well thanks for the replies, I now have a BCM middy on the way. :D
Now it's which BUIS to get, I'm leaning towards a Troy right now. :rolleyes:


I like the Troy BUIS I have very much.
rackham1
10-14-09, 12:12
I have not been able to find mid-length on a 14.5" barrel other than from Noveske. Can anyone tell me who else offers this configuration?
Mung
10-14-09, 15:34
I have not been able to find mid-length on a 14.5" barrel other than from Noveske. Can anyone tell me who else offers this configuration?

CMMG does. Maybe Spikes and RRA, but not sure.

http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/?cart=1928709&cat=92&

I think after configuring one of the CMMG's with the Vortex, you could get the Noveske for about $100 more.
marh415
10-14-09, 16:03
And a Troy folding battle sight on the way also. Finally finishing my first AR!!! :D