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FromMyColdDeadHand
10-15-09, 07:30
Just when I was gettiing excited about watching football in Denver, looks like I'll work in the yard on Sundays.
Limbaugh is out after all the ninny's worried about his negative impact about how people might feel about him being a minority owner. Love Limbaugh or hate Limbaugh, if you have conservative leanings this is a very dark day. We have a president that admits to a 'little blow' and spent most of his time with ACORN. He's OK to have as president, but a radio talk show host is too radical to own a football team?
I was watching Mike&Mike this morning and the skinny Mike was talking about how Limaugh had to be bounced since there was not upside to having him as an owner. Well I'll tell you there is a downside to shunning someone that is a bit right of center and a lifelong NFL fan. I'm not watching anymore games this year, and I'm thinking about finding some local and national NFL advertisers and tell them that I'm not happy.
I don't want to hear any happy horseshit about how the NFL didn't do this, they stood bye and let it happen. I guess they don't like conservative money, so boom, they don't get any of mine.
An ACORN President and we are 'redlining' who can own a NFL franchise.
I guess they don't like my kind. Screw'm.
I know,that friggin crazy right?!? Count one more who wont be watching nfl games.
Good point too that we can have such a radical left POTUS but people are making a big deal about who owns an nfl team???:confused:
The guy knows & loves the game too...I think he would have been an asset on his passion alone. The NFL comish should be ashamed as should the owner of the Colts for their comments.
I expected as much from the left to pull the race card.
It's no wonder college ball continues to grow.....I miss the old days of the nfl.
John_Wayne777
10-15-09, 08:03
I, for one, find it curious how a league that has let how many felons back on the field suddenly finds a sense of morality when it comes to a radio talkshow host buying into a team.
NFL = National Felons League
You are really faulting the NFL for not wanting a drug addict to own a team?
It is a business, what other business would want a branch of their company to be run buy a drug addict?
John_Wayne777
10-15-09, 08:35
You are really faulting the NFL for not wanting a drug addict to own a team?
It is a business, what other business would want a branch of their company to be run buy a drug addict?
Ah. So it's his past drug problems that are the deal breaker. I suppose that's fair since the NFL has made a tremendous effort to rid themselves of all the players with substance abuse problems....
Ah. So it's his past drug problems that are the deal breaker. I suppose that's fair since the NFL has made a tremendous effort to rid themselves of all the players with substance abuse problems....
Imagine what the roster would look like...
I have not heard one mention of his drug history in regards to this and I suspect it is because of it being thrown back in their face in regards to the players as you mention.
I, for one, find it curious how a league that has let how many felons back on the field suddenly finds a sense of morality when it comes to a radio talkshow host buying into a team.
mm-hmm, isn't that something.
for awhile there, I thought the NFL stood the Nat'l. Felons League.
or wait... wasn't that basketball?...
Business_Casual
10-15-09, 10:03
You are really faulting the NFL for not wanting a drug addict to own a team?
It is a business, what other business would want a branch of their company to be run buy a drug addict?
He was an investor in a consortium trying to buy a team. What did his past problems have to do with the fungability of his money?
M_P
I thought he was trying to buy into the St. Louis Rams(although I dont know why anybody would want to own part of them).
Rush did not deserve this treatment. I hope he goes after people in the court.
I, for one, find it curious how a league that has let how many felons back on the field suddenly finds a sense of morality when it comes to a radio talkshow host buying into a team.
my thoughts also :)
I dont ever watch football ? so its lost on me but it seems half the players are losers with no morals
decodeddiesel
10-15-09, 13:29
Not that I was a huge football fan to begin with, but I lost any and all interest in the NFL following Albert Haynesworth despicable conduct during and following the October 1, 2006 game when he stomped on Gurode's face. Oh, but he was real sorry afterword seeing how he nearly killed the man because he had a temper tantrum and a criminal record. Now he is "the most dominant defensive tackle in the league." :confused: What an awesome message we're sending to the youth in this country.
FromMyColdDeadHand
10-15-09, 13:48
You are really faulting the NFL for not wanting a drug addict to own a team?
It is a business, what other business would want a branch of their company to be run buy a drug addict?
I guess the President of the United States. BHO admits to wide spread drug abuse as a youth. So, Rush got addicted to pain killers and got himself cleaned up, what a horrible story to tell.
BHO, the ACORN guy, is President.
Franken, the un-funny profane comic, is in the Senate.
Charlie Rangel is still in the House.
And Rush Limbaugh gets the heave-ho.
Didn't get a chance to listen to him today, what was Rush's spin on it? I hope he shuts down the swichboards of NFL sponsers. Screw it, tear it all down.
What's a rich, white guy have to do to get a fair shake anymore?
All because he wants to own his hometown football team. I hope STL ends up with the worlds least used convention hall.
Not that I was a huge football fan to begin with, but I lost any and all interest in the NFL following Albert Haynesworth despicable conduct during and following the October 1, 2006 game when he stomped on Gurode's face. Oh, but he was real sorry afterword seeing how he nearly killed the man because he had a temper tantrum and a criminal record. Now he is "the most dominant defensive tackle in the league." :confused: What an awesome message we're sending to the youth in this country.
let's not forget Ray Lewis, two guys knifed to death in Atlanta, he mails the murder weapon home too Baltimore and walks. I know it was his 2 buddies in the Limo that took the wrap but he was complicit in some way even if just after the fact trying to protect 2 killers.
He was an investor in a consortium trying to buy a team. What did his past problems have to do with the fungability of his money?
M_P
Good word, I like learning new ones. What about with an I, as in fungibility?
Limbaugh as an owner would have been a PR disaster for the league and it would have been a problem for the players. Remember the trouble Limbaugh got into with his comments about Donovan McNabb. Limbaugh said:
The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is little hope invested in [Donovan] McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve.
The guy basically said that McNabb could get by with doing less because he was black. Now if people believe that, that's their deal but when you're a media personality and you say it, you get to learn that free speech does not mean protection from people choosing not to do business with you. If Limbaugh suddenly came out in support of N.A.M.B.L.A. and radio stations dropped him, I doubt I'd hear very many of you complain that his he was being punished for expressing his deeply held convictions.
The NFL doesn't want anything to hurt the brand. The controversy that Rush Limbaugh thrives on and that has made the man obscenely wealthy is exactly what the NFL does not want its brand associated with. The NFL appeals to people regardless of party affiliation, race, religion, or creed. Why should it mess that up to have Rush Limbaugh in its ranks as a minority owner?
The funny thing about the situation is the people who own NFL teams tend to be rich, conservative, white guys so it's ironic that they're making a dollars and cents decision to not let Rush in the club.
Business_Casual
10-15-09, 15:17
Good word, I like learning new ones. What about with an I, as in fungibility?
I suppose so; had I clicked on the spell check. ;)
M_P
You are really faulting the NFL for not wanting a drug addict to own a team?
It is a business, what other business would want a branch of their company to be run buy a drug addict?
Lol,your kidding,right? A drug addict involved with the NFL? I gurantee 100% of the NFL player"s who would get a drug test would test positive for steroids!
Limbaugh as an owner would have been a PR disaster for the league and it would have been a problem for the players. Remember the trouble Limbaugh got into with his comments about Donovan McNabb. Limbaugh said:
The guy basically said that McNabb could get by with doing less because he was black. Now if people believe that, that's their deal but when you're a media personality and you say it, you get to learn that free speech does not mean protection from people choosing not to do business with you. If Limbaugh suddenly came out in support of N.A.M.B.L.A. and radio stations dropped him, I doubt I'd hear very many of you complain that his he was being punished for expressing his deeply held convictions.
The NFL doesn't want anything to hurt the brand. The controversy that Rush Limbaugh thrives on and that has made the man obscenely wealthy is exactly what the NFL does not want its brand associated with. The NFL appeals to people regardless of party affiliation, race, religion, or creed. Why should it mess that up to have Rush Limbaugh in its ranks as a minority owner?
The funny thing about the situation is the people who own NFL teams tend to be rich, conservative, white guys so it's ironic that they're making a dollars and cents decision to not let Rush in the club.
Wow,Where does this "way outta left field" post begin to get analyzed and addressed.First of all,How you can drag N.A.M.B.L.A of all the organization's one can choose from...whoa.:confused: Anyway,Rush is the furthest thing from a nefarious club member or a clubmember who to deserves a long painful death due to their victimization of children such as NAMBLA.
As for your statement that Mr.Limbaugh thrives on controversy,I see the thought police have fed you the kool-aide.You see,Mr.Limbaugh speaks the truth and then all of the sissies get their panties in a bunch.That really the heart most of the "controversies" he's in.Mr.Limbaugh stands for the"Old Guard" if you will.He stands for what "old" America used to stand for.He's a major road block for the secular progressive socialists and now he's feeling some retribution.
Sad state of affairs this country is in.If you want to get more sick to your stomach,go see how our dollar's been doing internationally lately.
FromMyColdDeadHand
10-15-09, 16:08
Limbaugh's point on McNabb wasn't that people cut him slack, it was that the Eagles defense was more important to the Eagles success than McNabb. But McNabb got inordinate credit for the teams success because everyone wanted him to be successful to end the lack of phenominal black QBs.
McNabb is a good QB, it is just that at the time people were placing importance and capability on him because of his race and what he 'represented'.
Sound familiar?
Rush gets creamed because of things he didn't say, and for things he did say but people missrepresent. I'm not saying that I agree with him all the time, I wish he was a little better informed sometimes, but I'm not on the radio 15 hours a week.
He kinds of reminds me of Machiavelli in that his biggest critics and haters have never taken the time to actually get the real message, but just mental shadowbox their preconcieved notions of what he is.
You are really faulting the NFL for not wanting a drug addict to own a team?
It is a business, what other business would want a branch of their company to be run buy a drug addict?
If you define alcoholic as a drug addict, which it should be, then many companies have lots of drug addicts in their upper echelon. Just because it's more socially acceptable does not make it any more damaging to themselves, their families or careers. If you really delve into the subject I'll bet you might be surprised at how many very successful alcoholic/drug addicts there really are running very successful businesses.
I'm not supporting Rush, alcoholics or drug addicts but I am under no illusions as to what happens during happy hours, golf and client dinners on a very frequent basis in the world of business decision making. Customer entertainment, it's a bitch, but somebody's gotta do it :D
You are really faulting the NFL for not wanting a drug addict to own a team?
It is a business, what other business would want a branch of their company to be run buy a drug addict?
The NFL has gained in profitability and marketing from a certain quarterback formerly of the Green Bay Packers and New York Jets and currently of the Minnesota Vikings; who like Rush Limbaugh was formerly addicted to painkillers.
Your use of present tense with respect to "drug addict" is a bit laughable, as is the idea that the NFL suddenly has qualms about someone being involved in that organization who has a past history of issues with painkillers.
I thought he was trying to buy into the St. Louis Rams(although I dont know why anybody would want to own part of them).
He is from MO
Lol,your kidding,right? A drug addict involved with the NFL? I gurantee 100% of the NFL player"s who would get a drug test would test positive for steroids!
Are you trying to say the NFL does not give players drug tests?
Are you trying to say the NFL does not give players drug tests?
Are you trying to make me laugh again?
parishioner
10-15-09, 19:49
Perna, would you mind addressing the following comment, as it is an excellent rebuttal to your argument.
Thanks.
The NFL has gained in profitability and marketing from a certain quarterback formerly of the Green Bay Packers and New York Jets and currently of the Minnesota Vikings; who like Rush Limbaugh was formerly addicted to painkillers.
Your use of present tense with respect to "drug addict" is a bit laughable, as is the idea that the NFL suddenly has qualms about someone being involved in that organization who has a past history of issues with painkillers.
You are really faulting the NFL for not wanting a drug addict to own a team?
It is a business, what other business would want a branch of their company to be run buy a drug addict?
Lol,your kidding,right? A drug addict involved with the NFL? I gurantee 100% of the NFL player"s who would get a drug test would test positive for steroids!
Are you trying to make me laugh again?
I will...cuz I'd love to hear how you came to the ridiculous conclusion that 100% of NFL players are juicing up.
Perna, would you mind addressing the following comment, as it is an excellent rebuttal to your argument.
Sure. Comparing Farve to Limbaugh makes no sense. Farve puts asses in the seats no matter what he does, he could club baby seals on live tv and still make the NFL tons of money. Limbaugh on the other hand isnt going make them any money, or make the sport any more popular. Just because he has money does not make him an asset to the organization.
Sure. Comparing Farve to Limbaugh makes no sense. Farve puts asses in the seats no matter what he does, he could club baby seals on live tv and still make the NFL tons of money. Limbaugh on the other hand isnt going make them any money, or make the sport any more popular. Just because he has money does not make him an asset to the organization.
It's highly probably that any business impact (negative OR positive) that Rush Limbaugh being a minority owner of the St. Louis Rams would have on the team or the league would be completely lost in the noise. As you said, Farve could club baby seals and no one would give a shit; it's proven that the NFL can survive just fine with people with past history of drug abuse involved in the organization...doesn't matter if it's a no-name third string fullback, a first ballot hall of famer, or a partial owner of a team. The public just doesn't care. Tickets will still be sold, jerseys will still be sold, people will still watch the games.
The league should be much more concerned that one of it's franchises, the Rams, would likely lose soundly to about half a dozen college football teams. That is far more of a threat to the business success of the Rams franchise than Limbaugh owning a small portion of the team.
For all the BS that was spread throughout this whole Limbaugh bid, I don't even recall hearing anything about drugs, which further proves that no one gives a damn about that, even people who are looking to crucify the guy. So if you think Limbaugh is a bad idea, fine...but the "he's a drug addict" angle is lame, old, and overplayed.
Business_Casual
10-15-09, 20:58
Well, I for one am glad that the NFL doesn't promote gambling on their games. Particularly by publishing injury reports and formated stats, because then the line in Vegas would be off by a few points. I am also sure assured that they don't publish the drug test schedule, which would make it very easy to cycle your steroids around it.
I would be shocked that such an organization would allow someone who has a radio show to invest in their pristine, snow-white business!
M_P
Gutshot John
10-15-09, 21:32
I've been critical of Limbaugh in the past, but this is posturing.
The NFL got its publicity, the partnership will get its team and the media tied the "mack daddy" of conservatism to the whipping post. He'll get to point out yet another liberal conspiracy to destroy him, but in this case they gave him ample credibility. Everyone gets what they want.
I'm so tired of being told when I should be offended. :rolleyes:
And the band played on...
You are really faulting the NFL for not wanting a drug addict to own a team?
It is a business, what other business would want a branch of their company to be run buy a drug addict?
You mean like Jim Irsay, the owner of the Colts?
John_Wayne777
10-15-09, 22:09
Well, I for one am glad that the NFL doesn't promote gambling on their games. Particularly by publishing injury reports and formated stats, because then the line in Vegas would be off by a few points. I am also sure assured that they don't publish the drug test schedule, which would make it very easy to cycle your steroids around it.
I would be shocked that such an organization would allow someone who has a radio show to invest in their pristine, snow-white business!
M_P
Insert "Oh Snap!" picture here.
I, too, think it's splendid that the NFL is reacting in unison to keep Limbaugh out, especially since no one of any criminal note has famously joined the NFL this year. We haven't heard about how a felon has "paid his dues" or anything like that at all, so that leaves the NFL in the perfect moral position to tell everyone how a radio talkshow host should be barred from the sport lest it be tainted.
Sure. Comparing Farve to Limbaugh makes no sense. Farve puts asses in the seats no matter what he does, he could club baby seals on live tv and still make the NFL tons of money. Limbaugh on the other hand isnt going make them any money, or make the sport any more popular. Just because he has money does not make him an asset to the organization.
You know what owners do, right? They invest in the organization. They hire coaching staff. They negotiate contracts with players. People don't show up to the stadium to watch the owners play ball...they come to watch the teams that the owners build.
Interesting that the NFL is courting a pop singer as an owner for a team but rejects Limbaugh out of hand....
You know what owners do, right? They invest in the organization. They hire coaching staff. They negotiate contracts with players. People don't show up to the stadium to watch the owners play ball...they come to watch the teams that the owners build.
I personally think rush would have done the same as jerry jones has done with my cowboys...love or hate the team, people watch to see them win or lose.
tell me that is not what his franchise (SL) needed....even if he owned just a corner, fans would join in to see him cringe or cheer. Really a stupid move by the nfl to pick sides.
A few thoughts come to mind-
If Limbaugh suddenly came out in support of N.A.M.B.L.A. and radio stations dropped him, I doubt I'd hear very many of you complain that his he was being punished for expressing his deeply held convictions.
You are probably right. Let us know when that happens, 'kay? In the meantime, stick with reality.
The NFL doesn't want anything to hurt the brand.
Bwahahah!!!:D Comedy gold! "Hurt the brand"? Like Vick? Or any number of other felons/juicers/hopheads in the NFL..? Gimme a break.
The controversy that Rush Limbaugh thrives on...
Is apparently not an issue, given Olbermann's involvement in the broadcast every week, IIRC. Perhaps you don't feel that Olbermann has an agenda, or is in any way controversial?
...and that has made the man obscenely wealthy is exactly what the NFL does not want its brand associated with.
Please.:rolleyes: "Obscene wealth" (whatever that is) combined with controversy describes half of the NFL anymore. Be honest with yourself. It's really only an issue if it's a center-right guy with whom you disagree, right? Otherwise, you're not making sense.
The NFL appeals to people regardless of party affiliation, race, religion, or creed. Why should it mess that up to have Rush Limbaugh in its ranks as a minority owner?
It *should* be so appealing. And yet I am finding it much less so today. I find that I am less interested in the NFL's product after all of this. Oops. Looks like they messed that up, huh?
The funny thing about the situation is the people who own NFL teams tend to be rich, conservative, white guys so it's ironic that they're making a dollars and cents decision to not let Rush in the club.
Yep. You've got it all figured out. Without question, the owners have access to data showing that any team to which Limbaugh is attached, even as a minority owner, would lose money. Riiiight.
Gutshot John
10-16-09, 09:27
tell me that is not what his franchise (SL) needed....even if he owned just a corner, fans would join in to see him cringe or cheer. Really a stupid move by the nfl to pick sides.
Exactly. No such thing as bad publicity, especially for St. Louis.
The notion that Limbaugh somehow reflects poorly on the NFL is patently absurd.
New guy here ...You know what really pisses me off ? Its those racists Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson. They can get away with whatever they want. Race shakedown / hustlers. The media is so far to the left its a joke.
The nfl has lost my $$.
I'll watch, but never spend a dime on any merchandise.
You are really faulting the NFL for not wanting a drug addict to own a team?
It is a business, what other business would want a branch of their company to be run buy a drug addict?
Why not? They have enough felons and thugs playing on the teams.:rolleyes:
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