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longrange18
10-22-09, 03:39
Just wandering which mount is stronger; or if they are evenly matched which do you prefer and why?

DD
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Daniel%20Defense%20II/IMG_0533%201028%20WEVO.jpg
Image courtesy of Stickman. I think the mount is for a RIS II rail system but it looks identical to the Lite Rail mounting hardware.

Larue
http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/catalog/P1011881.JPG
Image from Larue website.

Brandon
rob_s
10-22-09, 04:43
Military moron has asked that people not link to his pictures, and when you went to his site you had to read this several times, and type in a password acknowledging that you had read this.

Plus, now that you have linked to them, the password thing pops up on anyone that clicks on this page.
longrange18
10-22-09, 04:58
Military moron has asked that people not link to his pictures, and when you went to his site you had to read this several times, and type in a password acknowledging that you had read this.

Plus, now that you have linked to them, the password thing pops up on anyone that clicks on this page.

That was my complete and utter mistake. I didn't even see that at the top of his website. I found new images. I feel like a huge "donkey butt." :o
rob_s
10-22-09, 05:37
Assumed that was the case.

FWIW, this topic comes up on various forums from time to time, and it never ends well. Until someone buys 10 of each and puts them through extensive destructive testing the argument will never be settled.

That said, I'd argue that both are "strong enough". I don't think either is structurally inferior enough to the other to matter.

I personally prefer DD rails because they are lighter.

this chart (http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pwswheghNQsFnUZMkZNF2DQ&output=html) may be of some use to you.
M4arc
10-22-09, 06:24
I prefer the DD rail because they're lighter and narrower. Personal preference.
dbrowne1
10-22-09, 10:16
I have no idea which one is "stronger" but I doubt you'll be able to break either of them assuming you install them correctly.
eternal24k
10-22-09, 11:20
PREFERENCE.
I love the Lite rails, wish they had QD mounts.
Mega
10-22-09, 11:34
That said, I'd argue that both are "strong enough". I don't think either is structurally inferior enough to the other to matter.


What Rob said...

I prefer the LaRue because I own one. :D
longrange18
10-22-09, 11:35
Thanks for the input guys. And nice chart rob. I guess my question should have been more towards which is less susceptible to torque? ie, twisting and possibly loosening the barrel nut. Or is that pretty much unlikely with both systems?

EDIT: Also, the DD system looks like it would be much easier for someone with little experience to install.
CGoodwin
10-22-09, 11:54
I have installed three Larue rails and four DD rails (one of which was an Omega, so it really doesn't count). Install time and difficulty was about the same. The MOST important part is getting the new barrel nut straight. Just running the gas tube through the hole does NOT gurantee that the rail is straight.

Anyway, back on topic. I LOVE both rails. I have not found any appreciable movement with any of them over extensive use, including several classes. Hard to go wrong with either system!
tylerw02
10-22-09, 11:59
I'll echo what is above. Its preference and you won't hurt either one and the "better" one is the one you prefer. I can't make a case that one is better than the other.

I purchased a Lite rail, mostly because it was lighter and a continuous uninterrupted rail on the top...not that I need it, but prefer the cosmetics of it. The DD was a quick and simple install, as well. I'd recommend one.
cpekz
10-22-09, 12:54
Never used DD rails, but I have used LaRue rails and they are definitely good to go. Seeing as many DD rails as I do being used on member's rifles that have far more experience and knowledge than I, you are probably well served with either company. A lot of users prefer the lightness of the DD rail. Like stated above, user preference mostly. I prefer LaRue.
dbrowne1
10-22-09, 13:00
Thanks for the input guys. And nice chart rob. I guess my question should have been more towards which is less susceptible to torque? ie, twisting and possibly loosening the barrel nut. Or is that pretty much unlikely with both systems?


The way they both attach I think you'd have to apply an enormous amount of torque - more than any mere mortal could produce alone - before anything would bend or shear, which is what would have to happen before the barrel nut moved at all.
MisterWilson
10-22-09, 13:14
PREFERENCE.
I love the Lite rails, wish they had QD mounts.

I think that a DD Omega-X rail with the LaRue profile (tucked in lower rail versus symmetrical) would be supreme, but that's a minor nitpick. I just can't wait for them to release more lengths & configs for it.
Belmont31R
10-22-09, 13:16
I don't like the DD rails because the bottom rail sticks down so much. Don't know why but its always been a turn off to me. LaRue is a slimmer setup...



I like KAC and LaRue rails...:cool:
jakjakman
10-22-09, 13:31
I've had my mitts on both at one time or another and I prefer LaRue.
flanntastic
10-22-09, 13:34
DD hangs down more but is slimmer, larue seems fat in my hand.

i go DD
krytos
10-23-09, 02:02
this chart (http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pwswheghNQsFnUZMkZNF2DQ&output=html) may be of some use to you.

Pretty soon Rob will need a chart to keep all the charts straight.
G-2
10-23-09, 16:58
LaRue here as well...:cool:
edwin907
10-23-09, 17:52
I've got both, I like both.
But my DD 12, the old style, is probably my favorite.


http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/recon5.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/OPS1.jpg
kaiservontexas
10-23-09, 20:03
I am a LaRue whore . . .

Current incarnation of INFIDEL as of receiving my order of MagPul stuff from LT (rail panels and mag. pulls in de.) The upper is a DMR 16" LaRue Tactical complete upper receiver . . . and now back to my beer.

http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww256/crusaderwyn/Projekt%20AR/DSC01706.jpg
NarcissisticDeity
10-24-09, 11:40
Just wandering which mount is stronger; or if they are evenly matched which do you prefer and why?

DD
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Daniel%20Defense%20II/IMG_0533%201028%20WEVO.jpg
Image courtesy of Stickman. I think the mount is for a RIS II rail system but it looks identical to the Lite Rail mounting hardware.

Larue
http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/catalog/P1011881.JPG
Image from Larue website.

Brandon


I have a Larue from what I understand DD makes a great product , I bought the Larue because of their reputation for quality and for aesthetic reasons . And the I have Larue mounts for Aimpoints , F.U.G and Troy Larue back up irons so I wanted to keep some continuity .
gfunx2000
10-25-09, 10:35
I love the DD rails. So light and a good profile to them.
olds442tyguy
10-25-09, 18:18
I like DD's. They're lighter, slimmer, and taller.

As for looks.... Truth be told, after rails like the Troy, Lite, URX, and Omega X, I just find the more traditional rails to be absolutely hideous looking with out the monolithic look.
87GN
10-25-09, 18:33
I only have DD rails at the moment. That said, LT rails are one of only maybe 2 or 3 manufacturers (DD not included) that I have mic'd and are ALWAYS within 1913 spec.

I would be very happy with either manufacturer. I had the "old" DD Lite rails and they didn't give me problems, but I have heard of others damaging them, and I figure DD changed the design for a reason - and I haven't heard of any problems since.