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GunSlinger
10-30-09, 09:58
I raised an eye brow when I noticed the Guy on the cover of the new December SWAT magazine was holding the FN SCAR at the mag well. (not ideal with the bolt moving at warp speed slightly above your thumb or in its path!) ..can be debated.
what really gave me a laugh was the ad from woolrich on page thirty seven. I cant make heads or tails of it, scope backwards, mounts look odd.
Kind of reminds me of Bruce Willis in Tears of the Sun.
I don't have the magazine with me so if someone can post a pic that would be great.
geminidglocker
10-30-09, 19:58
I want to see!!!!!!!!!:)
now you have done it.... :mad:
making fun of "Tears Of The Sun" is crossing the line :p
i always wondered what M4C thought about that movie... :D
M4tographer
10-30-09, 22:31
now you have done it.... :mad:
making fun of "Tears Of The Sun" is crossing the line :p
i always wondered what M4C thought about that movie... :D
I know I want a laptop that shows me exactly where the bad guys are. That'd be tits.
Iraq Ninja
10-31-09, 13:45
Here you go...
This ad will haunt them for a long time, like the infamous HK catalog cover.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d127/Iraqninja/stupid-idiots.jpg
geminidglocker
10-31-09, 13:49
That is the funniest thing I've seen in awhile! Thank you!!:D
Iraq Ninja
10-31-09, 13:52
Besides the scope being on backwards, I love how he is attaching the front of his sling. I doubt he has a plate in his carrier. If he does, he is not worried about being shot in the heart...
Note how both appear to be wearing their thigh holsters way too low, and the guy on his right side has a nice big pouch right over his pistol.
There must be some marketing study that says big muscles and porn star mustaches sell clothes to cops.
Only thing that doesn't look FUBAR is the dog.
geminidglocker
10-31-09, 13:56
The dog looks at them like "WTF?" Even the dog knows it's all wrong.
While you guys are laughing your asses off, I'm busy flipping my optics around!:rolleyes: Marketing ROCKS!
Iraq Ninja
10-31-09, 14:18
Wrongrich is just following the tradition...
http://www.saysuncle.com/images/nycpd.jpg
http://www.filmweb.no/bilder/multimedia/archive/00101/Bruce_Willis_i_Tear_101959o.jpg
In all fairness, Bruce kicked alot of A. for having an improperly mounted Aimpoint. LOL!
W.T.F. That shit is funny.
Never seen a dynamic entry team with a dog.
so where in the stick is the dogs position?
I would think the dog would be part of the negotiation team.
militarymoron
10-31-09, 22:24
there's a sticker on the backwards scope. it reads 'objects are closer than they appear'.
Don Robison
10-31-09, 23:27
there's a sticker on the backwards scope. it reads 'objects are closer than they appear'.
I can't stop laughing.:D
Wrongrich is just following the tradition...
http://www.saysuncle.com/images/nycpd.jpg
http://www.filmweb.no/bilder/multimedia/archive/00101/Bruce_Willis_i_Tear_101959o.jpg
I saw the movie. Can't say I remember seeing the Aimpoint on backwards. Guess I should pay better attention next time.
The NYC PD pic above is priceless though.
Iraq Ninja
11-01-09, 01:43
Woolrich is trying to make a comeback into the tactical market with this ad campaign. But, I don't see anything new in their product line. They used to be the number one alternative to 5.11 gear.
Woolrich has become a black hole in the tactical community after they let Fernando go, who went on the forum EOTAC. We saw Fernando as Woolrich and he was their online presence in the forums. Their ad banners were on all the forums.
Karma is a bitch...
http://www.sportwaffenk9.com/images/Police.K9.3.jpg
geminidglocker
11-01-09, 09:22
:)Thank you, I needed a new desktop backround.:)
GLOCKMASTER
11-01-09, 09:33
Another ad failure.
http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n355/STR8SHTER/blackhawkFail.jpg
Iraq Ninja
11-01-09, 10:07
Lets not forget the HK catalog with the rounds loaded backwards in the magazine.
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/HKbulletsBackwards.jpg
Another ad failure.
thats pretty good
:p:D
Belmont31R
11-01-09, 12:19
This type of stuff cracks me up. You'd think these companies would have at least one gun person who could spot this type of stuff before they spend the thousands on add design and putting it to print.
PRGGodfather
11-01-09, 12:31
Those creative types have egos. They don't want some knuckledragger around to tell them the truth. It's easier to believe their own crap.
Another ad failure.
http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n355/STR8SHTER/blackhawkFail.jpg
Ok, I am dumb. Maybe the bad glare or washed out color on my laptop at the kitchen table, or more likely I am just dumb. Tell me the failure here.
Is it the lack of a rear sight? No sighting system/optic on the guy in the left?
Ok, I am dumb. Maybe the bad glare or washed out color on my laptop at the kitchen table, or more likely I am just dumb. Tell me the failure here.
Is it the lack of a rear sight? No sighting system/optic on the guy in the left?
as much as i hate to admit it, im also at a loss in that pic. Whats wrong?!!?
GLOCKMASTER
11-01-09, 18:49
Is it the lack of a rear sight? No sighting system/optic on the guy in the left?
Yes!!
Yes!!
haha, that seemed a little too easy so i was looking for something more indepth
geminidglocker
11-01-09, 20:41
How about the movie"I am Legend" I like Will Smith as an actor, but there is this part in the movie, where he runs out of ammo, and his gun continues to make cyclic sounds.;)
geminidglocker
11-01-09, 20:44
No sights for you Bro'
Besides the scope being on backwards, I love how he is attaching the front of his sling. I doubt he has a plate in his carrier. If he does, he is not worried about being shot in the heart...
Note how both appear to be wearing their thigh holsters way too low, and the guy on his right side has a nice big pouch right over his pistol.
There must be some marketing study that says big muscles and porn star mustaches sell clothes to cops.
Only thing that doesn't look FUBAR is the dog.
I concur with the exception of one thing.What country are they supposed to be L.E in?? Whatever country they policing,remind me to stay out of.I dont like countries where Military personnel and Law Enforcement Officers are indistinguishable.You know,like some places in Central America or other military dictatorships.
My friends and I used to joke with each other when we traveled that we must be in a questionable environment when one lands on foreign soil and the police have full auto weapons.
So,we have a full-blown Marxist-Leninist(we all know how freedom loving those types are) in the WH and cops who more and more are beginning to take on the appearance Special Ops teams.Thats like a great combo!! Thomas Jefferson would be proud!!! :rolleyes:
Excuse me while I go and retrieve my "tin foil hat"so I can donn it while I quote some guy...I think his name was Ben Franklin or something like that..but he said something to the effect that "Those who are willing to sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither". Now on the opposite end of the spectrum,lets hear a quote from a man that many in this current administration worship,Mao Tse Tung (S.C?),or lovingly called "Chairman Mao". This guys take on the situation was a little differnt than good ole Ben and the rest of the rogues..er..I mean "Founding Fathers".It went something like "All political power is derived from a barrel of a gun".nice.....real nice.
I pity the children of this country.(my 2 sons included)
Another ad failure.
http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n355/STR8SHTER/blackhawkFail.jpg
I bet I know what the guy on the left is hoping for in his holiday care package.
Outlander Systems
11-11-09, 11:57
Kind of reminds me of Bruce Willis in Tears of the Sun.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8966/brucewillisitear101959okw0.jpg
Belmont31R
11-11-09, 12:37
I concur with the exception of one thing.What country are they supposed to be L.E in?? Whatever country they policing,remind me to stay out of.I dont like countries where Military personnel and Law Enforcement Officers are indistinguishable.You know,like some places in Central America or other military dictatorships.
My friends and I used to joke with each other when we traveled that we must be in a questionable environment when one lands on foreign soil and the police have full auto weapons.
So,we have a full-blown Marxist-Leninist(we all know how freedom loving those types are) in the WH and cops who more and more are beginning to take on the appearance Special Ops teams.Thats like a great combo!! Thomas Jefferson would be proud!!! :rolleyes:
Excuse me while I go and retrieve my "tin foil hat"so I can donn it while I quote some guy...I think his name was Ben Franklin or something like that..but he said something to the effect that "Those who are willing to sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither". Now on the opposite end of the spectrum,lets hear a quote from a man that many in this current administration worship,Mao Tse Tung (S.C?),or lovingly called "Chairman Mao". This guys take on the situation was a little differnt than good ole Ben and the rest of the rogues..er..I mean "Founding Fathers".It went something like "All political power is derived from a barrel of a gun".nice.....real nice.
I pity the children of this country.(my 2 sons included)
Have you seen pictures of cops from the 20's?
I about as anti-tyrant/JBT as they come. However police in this country have used a lot of military style kit for a long time, and they used to have quite a bit more free reign in carrying out their duties.
When TJ was still alive I bet the "police" carried the same guns as the military. Most of that was due to basically one type of gun being available at that time...however I don't see how bringing Jefferson into the discussion solves anything or validates your argument.
Fast forward to the 1800's, and again the police were carrying many of the same weapons as the military.
In the 20's a lot of cops had BAR's, and Thompson's.
The lines may have grown further apart with the advent of belt fed machine guns and other crew served weapons. However Ive yet to see a PD with an M60, M240 or mini gun. As far as long guns go they have almost always carried the same or very similar weapons.
As far as the "look" of officers goes....besides color and maybe subtle details the uniforms were pretty close for a lot of the 20th century. Today many officers wear variations of the BDU.
Hell even a lot of state patrol's name their offices "barracks".....
Have you seen pictures of cops from the 20's?
I about as anti-tyrant/JBT as they come. However police in this country have used a lot of military style kit for a long time, and they used to have quite a bit more free reign in carrying out their duties.
When TJ was still alive I bet the "police" carried the same guns as the military. Most of that was due to basically one type of gun being available at that time...however I don't see how bringing Jefferson into the discussion solves anything or validates your argument.
Fast forward to the 1800's, and again the police were carrying many of the same weapons as the military.
In the 20's a lot of cops had BAR's, and Thompson's.
The lines may have grown further apart with the advent of belt fed machine guns and other crew served weapons. However Ive yet to see a PD with an M60, M240 or mini gun. As far as long guns go they have almost always carried the same or very similar weapons.
As far as the "look" of officers goes....besides color and maybe subtle details the uniforms were pretty close for a lot of the 20th century. Today many officers wear variations of the BDU.
Hell even a lot of state patrol's name their offices "barracks".....
You know,I wasn't going to even bother to respond to you because your obviously walking through life with your eyes closed and anything I or anyone else say sure isn't going to open them but,me being the nice guy I am,I'll take a stab at it.
Lets break this down point by point shall we? Now keep in mind,i'm going purely on fact and logic.This discussion have no room for emotion,So please dont respond with flag waving illogic.
!.You state,this is not verbatim btw,that police had the same firearms as military back when Thomas Jefferson,or tj as you disrespectfully call the man.Do you think the man has earned the respect that someone born into a nation thathe "gifted" to us would have the common decency to at least refer to him by name.Is the man that far removed from today's society and taken for granted that people wont even take the extra five seconds to spell his name out?? When you said "tj",for a second there,I said to myself "tj who? tj hooker? Oh..this guys talking about Thomas Jefferson." That being an asideheres a quick history lesson for you.There were really no police back then.Isn't the NYPD our first founded PD? I may be wrong.ANY care to clarify.I was under the impression that organized police forces in this country were born in the late 19th century.That would be almost a full hundred years after this country was founded.
As for your failure to see "tj's" relevance in this conversation,again,let me enlighten you.Real simple.Had the founding Fathers intended the military or military styled police to operate on American soil,they would have stated it in the many founding documents they wrote.Keep in mind the Founding documents were not nearly close to being the only writings these men have written.Almost all if not every single one of them has written extensively.I suggest you start reading.
Secondly you state that LEO's had thompsons and bar's back in the 20's.They had them AFTER the citizens of this country had acquired them.
Heres a little tidbit of info,Did you know that Al Capone escape a hit where the assassins assembled a "train" of cars and did a drive by of the restaurant he was at firing over 5000 rounds out of thompsons? Thats right,you heard correctly,FIVE THOUSAND rounds.That was just one incident.I cant recall something that that in recent memory occuring and like I stated,that was just one of many,many crimes with that high degree of violence and utter lack of regard for the law.Yeah,sure the nightly news nowadays is filled with this guy shoots that guy with a pistol but nothing that even comes close to reaching that staggering level of criminality.
Did you know the F.B.I was in its infancy in the early 20th century? Under J.Edgar Hoover's guidance,it turned into the agency it is today.Can you see how this factoid may have some bearing on whats being discussed here?
Third.As for belt fed weapons,surely you jest? When I was a young grunt in the United States Marine Corps,my company was deployed down to this little country in cental america known as Panama.Operation Just Cause.Well after everything had settled down,my platoon was deployed a few miles down the road from Rodman Naval Station/Howard Air Force base to PDF (panamanian defense force) police station.we had to keep an eye on them to make sure they weren't abusing the citizentry.Well,wouldn't you know it,we weren't permitted to carry belt fed weapons with us.Why you may ask?? Well,the American gov't didn't want to alarm the citizens with the sight of American troops with belt fed weapons.In a war zone.Thats ****ing ridiculous.(as I'm sure the r.o.e's are today for our young servicemen/women overseas,in harms way).
Fouth,you state that the "look" of police has been consistent with the military throughout the 20th century.Your right on that count.Military dress uniforms.I've lived in New York City for over 38 years and Police Officers NEVER resembled anything even close to a soldier when the soldier was conducting field operations against the enemy.My Grandfather went "on the job" right out of the Marine Corps after WWII and my Father followed right after a six year stint as a Naval photographer in 1969.I can vividly recall both of their uniform's.My Fathers through seeing it firsthand and Grandpa's through photograph's.Though more than two decades passed between their harrowing years of service to this great city,their uniforms looked almost identical.There may have been subtle changes to more modern materials the actual uniforms were manufactured from but by and large,the "look" remained the same.That "look" consisted of Dark Navy colored dress type slack with the "uniform stripe" down the outside seam of the leg.Much like military dress uniforms.You know,the ones soldiers wear when they visit their families? Their shirts were pretty much just heavy duty dress shirts.They NEVER wore combat gear.Who are the new combat gear wearing leo's supposed to going into combat against? The American citizen they are supposed to be protecting??? My Father told me that back in the 70's the NYPD requested a new piece of unformed gear.It was a black leather jacket.The request was denied on the grounds that the jacket was too "Gestapo-like" and that would alarm the citizens.Go figure.
The recent,radical change to a BDU type uniform,is like I stated...recent.That may or may not be a result of what the politicians refer to as "our post 9/11 world".Thats a crock of shit.I dont feel any more or less safe as a result of the events on 9/11.I do feel less safe with power hungry politicians using 9/11 as a pre-text to militarize our police forces.I lost friends and family as have many other New Yorkers on 9/11 and to be frank,we are sick and tired of politicians USING the attacks that occured and the deaths of our loved ones as their political currency to further their agenda.(like grabbing MORE power under the guise of "protecting us").Take for example,rudy guiliani.He trampled the Bill of Rights for eight years and would have gone down as one of the most hated mayors in NYC's history for doing so.Then,in the eleventh hour of his term,the attacks occured and all of a sudden you uses our families and friends deaths to turn around his image and transform into "America's Mayor"? Give me a ****ing break.Did you ever count how many times this guy guiliani said "9/11" on the campaign trail??The FDNY is very outspoken on this issue as well as are a majority of New Yorkers.The message is loud and clear to the politicians.."STOP trivializing the pain and suffering of the victims families by politicizing their deaths".
As far as State police using the term "barracks",good for them.Around here,they are known as "Police Preceincts "(i know that isnt spelled correctly!!),"Police Stations",Stationhouses etc.
In closing,I will state that Military(infantry/tactical units) and Police are the "polar opposites".The Military goes in and destroys the enemy and hold the ground they take.The Police are "peace officers" who are here to protect and serve the citizentry.I guess only slick tongued politicians could try to convice us that the two organiztions and their unique missions could possibly resemble each other.The funny thing is that some people are buying into this bullshit.Guess thats why our republic is going down the road to communism at such a rapid pace without so much as a wimper.
Did anyone ever hear that right after our Country had been founded,Benjamin Franklin was walking down the street and a woman stopped and asked him"what have you given us? and Good ole Benjamin's reply was "A Republic,if you can keep it".
I will not argue with anyone over this post for the simple fact that anyone who want to argue over freedom doesn't understand it nor do they deserve it.
"Those who will sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither" Benjamin Franklin,aka"bf".
"When the gov't fears the people,there is freedom.When the people fear the gov't,there is tyranny" Thomas Jefferson,aka"tj"
Jay Cunningham
11-11-09, 16:24
Is it a full moon?
Let me quote my buddy SHIVAN from another very recently locked thread:
It's apparent that we can't have political or idealogical threads exist for very much more than two pages on this board. The next time it resorts to getting personal, I will simply lock accounts for a week long time out.
If you think this applies to you, it probably does. Discuss issues like adults and quit getting personal.
The dumbest part of all is that this thread was originally about a goofy ad in a magazine. I know! Let's start arguing about it!!
:rolleyes:
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