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Did a search but did not find the results I was looking for so I thought Id ask.
Are there any reviews on the Middy length VIS? Photos of those who have them?
I dont see them much and was curious as to how well they performed and stood up to punishment.
Any advantages over to the MRP or simply installing a rail like the DD lite rail which essentially gives you the same idea of a connected top?
Did a search but did not find the results I was looking for so I thought Id ask.
Are there any reviews on the Middy length VIS? Photos of those who have them?
I dont see them much and was curious as to how well they performed and stood up to punishment.
Any advantages over to the MRP or simply installing a rail like the DD lite rail which essentially gives you the same idea of a connected top?
The VIS is a fantastic system. You won't see many pics of them as they tend to be rare.
The VIS gives you a lot rigidity and ease of mounting optics (especially if you want them in the dead center of the weapon).
C4
Old Pic
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/G&R%20Custom%20builds/VIS%20Middy%20with%20POF%20lower.JPG
I'm happy with mine, but don't have enough rounds down range to say hard use yet. Since it's a Noveske though I'm sure it's tougher then I am.:o
http://pro-patria.us/DMR/DMRVIS1.gif
She came in at 10.4 lbs as pictured. and yes the mount is dead center.
I always wanted a VIS for at 12.5 SBR but could never find one so I got a MUR instead and will use a DD Lite Rail.
My mouth begins to water everytime I see the Vltor VIS... My lpan is to build an SPR based on a rifle length VIS and Noveske SPR Barrel... I can dream can't I? lol
I'd love to pick up a VIS but MAN they're expensive! Heck, if middy isn't a requirement it'd cheaper to get a 6940 upper.
theJanitor
11-18-09, 16:48
Any advantages over to the MRP or simply installing a rail like the DD lite rail which essentially gives you the same idea of a connected top?
main advantage over the MRP is that you can use the barrel of YOUR choice, not LMT's
singlestack
11-18-09, 17:43
I am waiting for the VIS-2A. What lower best matches the VIS, fit and finish wise?
VIS-2A?? I love my VIS, should I be lusting after something new??
I like my VIS-2. It's not a QD sort of system like some others, but it's a hell of a lot easier to assemble into an upper than a regular upper.
Every once and a while I suddenly remember that I can put an optic where ever I want; it's easy to forget.
They're not really out of line, price wise, if you compare them to a billet upper and high quality FF rail.
oh silly me. I do have a -2, I forgot they used that nomenclature for the lengths...
Thanks for the responses guys. I really appreciate it.
theJanitor: True, that flexibility is a huge advantage IMHO.
main advantage over the MRP is that you can use the barrel of YOUR choice, not LMT's
That was one of the reasons I selected the VIS over a LMT. The LMT would have actualy been cheaper then the Noveske.
militarymoron
11-18-09, 21:52
oh silly me. I do have a -2, I forgot they used that nomenclature for the lengths...
the -2 and -2A differ in length by an inch. the 2 is the midlength (9" handguard) and 2A is the extended midlength (10"). -1 is carbine (7") and -3 is rifle (12").
singlestack
11-19-09, 02:10
Going back to my question, which lower best matches the VIS in fit and finish? Thanks.
eternal24k
11-19-09, 07:23
Going back to my question, which lower best matches the VIS in fit and finish? Thanks.
On the new forged VIS uppers I would say I decent forged lower, they will have a more matte finish than most billet lowers
Gutshot John
11-19-09, 09:21
I love my VIS upper but it hasn't gotten anywhere near the use of my Colt so maybe I baby it too much. In retrospect I would have dedicated it as an SPR with a stainless Noveske barrel instead of the N4 barrel I did chose.
Does anyone have the weights for a plain upper receiver plus rail? I'm curious how the VIS compares to an upper+rail...
-B
Gutshot John
11-19-09, 11:44
Does anyone have the weights for a plain upper receiver plus rail? I'm curious how the VIS compares to an upper+rail...
-B
I don't have the exact figures, but IIRC I asked that question before and the answer I got was that length being equal, the VIS was slightly lighter since it didn't have all the attaching hardware.
I'm a big fan of the VIS, with my favorite being the 2A on a 16" barrel.
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20V/IMG_3112-1028-Stick.jpg
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%204/0O2P0044-A-1024-Stick.jpg
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%204/STCK0418.jpg
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%204/STCK0419-1024-Stick.jpg
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20III/0O2P8817%201028%20Stick.jpg
I don't have the exact figures, but IIRC I asked that question before and the answer I got was that length being equal, the VIS was slightly lighter since it didn't have all the attaching hardware.
For some reason I thought the VIS would turn out heavier, but I hadn't thought about mounting hardware. Interesting. Now we need a bored part-collecting type to confirm. :p
-B
Nice Stick! Great photos and weapons as usual. I too would prefer the 2A for my planned build.
Stick... Your photo's make me drool... both in the items they depict, and in appreciation as a fellow photoropher... I don't even hold it against you that you shoot with Canon...
Nikon FTW! lol
;)
wild_wild_wes
11-21-09, 00:50
I can't compete with Stick, but here you go
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k132/pseudonominus/008.jpg
I really like the VIS.
wild_wild_wes
11-21-09, 00:57
I'd love to pick up a VIS but MAN they're expensive! Heck, if middy isn't a requirement it'd cheaper to get a 6940 upper.
Add up the expense of a billet upper, and a high-quality handguard, and the costs are comparable. Because you get both with a VIS.
Al U. 5811
11-21-09, 09:16
Wes,
Please, details and specs on that build. It looks very light.
wild_wild_wes
11-21-09, 13:51
Wes,
Please, details and specs on that build. It looks very light.
It weighs 6lbs. 14 oz. as shown.
It has a VIS-2 midlength upper, CMMG 14.5" lightweight barrel with VIS low-profile gas block, and TA50 3X compact ACOG. The front and rear BUIS are PRI and add a few ounces of weight.
Here is mine:
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7131/img0010largem.jpg
Unfortunately I left my SLR at an acquaintances so my pictures are even shittier then normal. I am no Stickman, but the indoor flourescent lighting doesn't help either.
She's a 14.5" Noveske N4 VIS Basic upper, permy attached Vortex for length requirements. I added the Magpul CTR, MIAD, ladder covers, and a tango down stubby grip. The sling is something I devised myself from what used to be a Spec Ops brand sling, which I chopped up and turned into a 2pt bungie sling with pull-adjuster at the front.
The weapon light is a Surefire 660 Classic series with old style Tape switch + constant on rocker tailcap, which is an excellent switching option. I just bought a Surefire L72 Laser unit so I am swapping out the existing mount on that surefire 660 Classic for the LT-607 double barrel light mount. The tape switch is attached via Velcro to a KAC rail panel I stippled , and relieved a rectangular cutout for the hook side of the velcro
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1347/img0014large.jpg
Edit: I messed around with the levels some and got a decent profile shot:
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5310/noveskelarge.jpg
I have a T1 in a LT mount on my christmas wishlist :P
Perhaps when the sun peaks its head out I will take a few pictures with decent lighting that show off the rest of the angles, but she is a nice shooter!
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