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DrDrake
12-01-09, 18:20
First off I want to thank everyone for understanding our position on minimizing the release of info on NEW and upcoming products. We’ve been working like mad men on several new products while publicly flying under the radar about their development. During the coming weeks leading into SHOT Show, Magpul will be releasing several NEW products that have been under development over the past several months. In addition to these there will be several additional NEW products that will be announced at SHOT Show in January.

So, the first of many products to be announced I give you the………

AFG (Angled ForeGrip)

• Retail price $34.95

• Available colors Black, Flat Dark Earth, OD Green and Foliage Green

• Timeline, available in mid December
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Magpul_Industries/AFG_9.jpg

The AFG falls into the category of “Theory Based" products. Simply put, these products are designed to enhance weapon performance and user interface beyond what is currently available. Because these products do not simply replace an existing weapon component, there is an understanding with Theory Based Products that simple plug and play doesn’t apply. They require education by way of instructions, training, and familiarization with the product to become proficient, and only then will the benefits be realized. In addition to the AFG, other products in this category are the B.A.D. Lever, MS2, and ASAP.

The primary difference between the AFG and standard vertical foregrips is weapon controllability. This is a direct result of hand position, grip style and body mechanics. Below is a detailed description of the Theory behind the AFG.


http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Magpul_Industries/AFG_2.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Magpul_Industries/AFG_3.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Magpul_Industries/AFG_4.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Magpul_Industries/AFG_5.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Magpul_Industries/AFG_6.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Magpul_Industries/AFG_7.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Magpul_Industries/AFG_8.jpg

All filled up Fellas. Thanks.

In an effort to receive feedback from the general population on the AFG Magpul would like to offer a T&E AFG to the first 30 posters in this thread. All we ask for in return is that you install the AFG, give it a shot and post pics and opinions on the AFG in the forum. If you’re one of the first 30 posters in this thread and are interested in receiving a free sample and are willing to report on your thoughts send an email to ========= containing the following;

•Actual name
•Address to ship
•Screen name
•email address
•phone number

If the above info is not sent you're name will be removed from the list and the next runner up will have a lucky day. VFG's will be shipping to the participants with in two weeks.


Be warned, if we send you an AFG and you do not post your opinion and pics I will create a voodoo doll and smash it with a pillow.

As a side note, the AFG is the first forward grip we’ve seen that may be used on an AK and not interfere with mag changes due to the low profile. I tried this out at the range the other day with my AK and it was fantastic! AK guys are going to dig this.

Thomas M-4
12-01-09, 18:28
I would be interested I was going to pick up a KAC finger stop but Magpul's option looks to be very interesting.
E-mail sent.
In Black if possible.

Ak44
12-01-09, 18:29
Drake I'd be interested! Email coming your way...

tiger seven
12-01-09, 18:30
I'm in! I would love to be a guinea pig and try this out. I recently switched over to the KAC handstop, so I'd be happy to give them a side-by-side trial. Email sent.

And thanks for being a great company with a great attitude towards ALL your customers, big fish or little fish. (No, I'm not sucking up.) :cool:

Derek

wake.joe
12-01-09, 18:32
I'd be very interested in how well this product works with the MOE forgrip. :)

Shawn.L
12-01-09, 18:32
Looks good, Im in.

email sent :)


I'd be very interested in how well this product works with the MOE forgrip.


my thought exactly

Zhurdan
12-01-09, 18:39
IN!

Sounds like an interesting notion!

ETA - The last slide alone is indicative of the ergonomics

Ak44
12-01-09, 18:41
I'd like to tinker with this thing if I'm able to T&E it, possibly place a pressure switch on or something like that for a light....Very exciting, I'm glad we get an opportunity like this :cool:

d90king
12-01-09, 18:43
Absolutely! Email sent! I also like the textured XTM panels...

jsebens
12-01-09, 18:44
Oh hell yes. Email inbound.

Ak44
12-01-09, 18:47
Drake's thread implies more new products, if you guys need more stuff to be T&E...I work for free ahahah :D

Sry0fcr
12-01-09, 18:56
Damn! I don't have a rifle to put it on. Figures the way 2009 has gone for me though (ongoing custody battle, the lawyers took all my money!). :\ Good luck to the next guy though! :)

Derek_Connor
12-01-09, 18:57
im game. email sent.

agr1279
12-01-09, 18:58
Count me in. E-mail sent.

Dan Jones

Buck
12-01-09, 18:59
What a fantastic offer... :cool:

Roy
12-01-09, 19:03
E MAIL SENT

Hope i did it right as the computer tends to be smarter than me.

hp35
12-01-09, 19:04
DIBSERIFFIC

Bluedog69
12-01-09, 19:05
E-mail sent.

Loves me some Magpul.

SHIVAN
12-01-09, 19:06
Drake:

I am definitely in. I have been trying to find the KAC unit, off and on, but this looks better to me.

Email inbound.

Ed

PRGGodfather
12-01-09, 19:06
Email sent!

pete10
12-01-09, 19:08
Email sent! Thanks a bunch!

Dr. Fixit
12-01-09, 19:10
Email sent

SPDGG
12-01-09, 19:11
E-mail sent.

Loves me some Magpul.
+1 ALL IN !!! Email Sent, BIG THANK YOU !!! Looking forward to it :D

LOKNLOD
12-01-09, 19:15
I'm up for some T&E on that! I chopped my TD vfg into a "rifle nipple" after Dynamic Carbine 1 so this might be just the ticket. Not sure if I'm in under the wire or not but I will send an email.

ETA: all filled up! If I made it in, great, if not thanks for the offer and cool of ya'll to solicit user input.

VLODPG
12-01-09, 19:17
I wouldn't mind trying one!

Jakus
12-01-09, 19:19
Would love to try it. As long as you don't mind a lefty taking a shot at it.

Email inbound.

C45P312
12-01-09, 19:22
I'd like to try one out as well, please.

edit: email sent

DARK-KNIGHT
12-01-09, 19:25
I'm in......

bradb55
12-01-09, 19:26
Count me in!

Thank you Sir

Littlelebowski
12-01-09, 19:35
Email sent! Thank you for the offer Drake and Magpul.

Titleist
12-01-09, 19:43
Looks like I JUST missed this. Awww, always playing games with my heart, Drake.

You cut me deep. :(

RogerinTPA
12-01-09, 19:44
Looks good, I'm in. Email sent!

C45P312
12-01-09, 19:44
Looks like I JUST missed this. Awww, always playing games with my heart, Drake.

You cut me deep. :(

With Drake being post #1, you should be the 30th non magpul affiliated poster in this thread.

Titleist
12-01-09, 19:57
With Drake being post #1, you should be the 30th non magpul affiliated poster in this thread.

I don't think I made it. Unless Drake says otherwise I'm going to go cry and pee in the corner. :mad:

That said, congrats guys, it's a slick design. I hope those who made it in have fun with it...and die in a fire. I mean have fun with it.

dutch308
12-01-09, 20:02
Email sent. Looks very promising!

Thomas M-4
12-01-09, 20:27
I don't think I made it. Unless Drake says otherwise I'm going to go cry and pee in the corner. :mad:

That said, congrats guys, it's a slick design. I hope those who made it in have fun with it...and die in a fire. I mean have fun with it.

I don't know you might have made it Titleist.
Has anybody got a E-mail response back yet?
Knowing my luck my E-mail got lossed or blocked because it came from a Hotmail account.

USMC
12-01-09, 20:34
I really like the concept of this grip.

C45P312
12-01-09, 20:35
I don't know you might have made it Titleist.
Has anybody got a E-mail response back yet?
Knowing my luck my E-mail got lossed or blocked because it came from a Hotmail account.

Nothing on my end. He did say first 30 posters i this thread, so who knows. I'm looking to get one either way and try it out.

Ak44
12-01-09, 20:41
No response and I was second on the thread to post a reply. This is great, get this thing and a SA 1911 PRO right before christmas :D

CoryCop25
12-01-09, 20:43
Damnit!!!! I should have skipped dinner!!!!!! I knew something like this was coming when I saw a few pics of Travis with a blurr under his weapon. Great job once again guys! I was at a gun show this weekend and I shouldered an M4 and people were looking at me like I never picked up a gun before when they saw my hand positioning of my support hand. I guess some will understand but most will not. I got $35 for one when they are available. :cool:

RPD03
12-01-09, 20:43
e-mail sent. Looks like a another great product.

HeavyDuty
12-01-09, 21:00
I know I'm too late, but this looks like a great idea.

ROCKET20_GINSU
12-01-09, 21:08
Email Sent,

I volunteer to be an alternate :D

GU

dutch308
12-01-09, 21:11
I am looking to change/upgrade some of the furniture and hardware on my rifle in the next month or two so this is great timing for this AFG to come out.

Deltapaul
12-01-09, 21:15
Id like to try too

Shawn.L
12-01-09, 21:15
I would think if you know you are not in the first 30 (any post past #31) that sending emails would just be a hassle to the OP.

its in poor taste to say the least.

BAC
12-01-09, 21:22
What a concept: modern weapon components designed with biomechanics in mind. :eek:

Outstanding idea. Good on you guys at Magpul for doing this.


Edit: K, 'cause I can't leave well enough alone. Does the AFG require that your arm be fully extended? I have fairly long arms, and if this is going on a carbine or shorter rifle then it would be next to impossible to have full arm extension. This makes me wonder if you have enough grip on the weapon for the AFG to serve as a reference and your support hand thumb would 'clamp' down on the 3 o' clock or 9 o' clock rail (for a lefty or righty, respectively), and if doing so would defeat the purpose of the grip.


-B

wragarand
12-01-09, 21:26
email sent

Shark
12-01-09, 21:50
Can I just buy one????:eek::)

olds442tyguy
12-01-09, 21:56
Could someone do me a favor and save a few of the pics and upload them to the board? My Asus seems to hate photobucket.

Ak44
12-01-09, 21:59
K, 'cause I can't leave well enough alone. Does the AFG require that your arm be fully extended? I have fairly long arms, and if this is going on a carbine or shorter rifle then it would be next to impossible to have full arm extension. This makes me wonder if you have enough grip on the weapon for the AFG to serve as a reference and your support hand thumb would 'clamp' down on the 3 o' clock or 9 o' clock rail (for a lefty or righty, respectively), and if doing so would defeat the purpose of the grip.


-B

I'm the exact opposite, I got T-rex arms..

standsalone
12-01-09, 22:11
I woul dike to try one... sound like a cool compromise between the vert and holding the rail

kmrtnsn
12-01-09, 22:19
I'm going to wait. I am sure that I'll get a chance to see one run and try it out at HVWM in February. I'm sure MP will talk me into all kinds of stuff I don't know I need then.

Ak44
12-01-09, 22:22
I would think if you know you are not in the first 30 (any post past #31) that sending emails would just be a hassle to the OP.

its in poor taste to say the least.

More like 32 or 33, a few of the posts (mine included) are just posts of happiness haha

SoDak
12-01-09, 22:33
Interesting idea. I've got an MI AK rail with a light at 9 o'clock. This looks like it might work in lower my hand and put my thumb in line with the light better instead of above it. I'll be interested to see where this product goes.

yugo308guy
12-02-09, 08:18
Good luck, sounds like an interesting idea.

fatmoocow
12-02-09, 08:23
Wow, I've actually been debating building something like this for a while. To bad I missed the beta test.

My 2cents worth is a smoother version without finger grips would give you a nice platform for shooting off barriers/bags etc. much like a tapered forend on a MCM A2. You could raise/lower by moving the rifle forwards/backwards. Looks like you'd be getting hung up as it is now.

Despite all the bitching from the community about vaporware. Getting info to the community as soon as posible will give you more feedback and help make better products.

Moose-Knuckle
12-02-09, 10:22
Innovative...

Ever since I saw the stance that is being taught by Magpul Dynamics I wondered if and when they would come up with some sort of fore grip.

One thing is for certain, with that price point they won't be able to keep them in stock.

eternal24k
12-02-09, 11:13
Damn, Im way too late

Tlyledesign
12-02-09, 11:51
Hey guys, sory about the pics. Small technical error. We are getting them back up, standby...

Bowser
12-02-09, 11:51
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Magpul_Industries/AFG_7.jpg

Now I'm going to have to build an AR similar to this! lol I drink the magpul koolaid, and it tastes wonderful.

kwelz
12-02-09, 12:07
I will say the same thing I did on another thread!

This is one of the only magpul products I am not sure about. It isn't a bad product I am just not sure if it will fit my shooting style. That being said, I still intend to try one out and see how it works for me.

Hmmm Wait. What is up with that CTR stock on that gun. It that a new camo scheme or a custom job?

Titleist
12-02-09, 12:12
Custom job. Travis said it was done using that water transfer method. Don't freak out...yet. :D

Tlyledesign
12-02-09, 12:18
I will say the same thing I did on another thread!

This is one of the only magpul products I am not sure about. It isn't a bad product I am just not sure if it will fit my shooting style. That being said, I still intend to try one out and see how it works for me.

Hmmm Wait. What is up with that CTR stock on that gun. It that a new camo scheme or a custom job?

I was on the fence with the idea too. Then I held a rifle with the AFG. It is such a natural, intuitive feeling. I really dig it. My shooting style adapted to the product. If anything, the AFG helped me get the right positioning on the rifle without thinking about it a lot (I am not what you might call a seasoned AR shooter, my background was in sporting clays and other shotgun fun) Try it out, I know you'll love it.

And just in case people are wondering who the heck I am, I'm the Magpul Graphics guy.:D

eternal24k
12-02-09, 12:24
Travis said it was done using that water transfer method

Thought that's what it was, I got kind of giddy thinking about it

docsherm
12-02-09, 12:29
Email sent

d90king
12-02-09, 12:39
What is up with that CTR stock on that gun. It that a new camo scheme or a custom job?

I like the textured XTM panels also...:D Sign me up for a couple dozen of those....

Tlyledesign
12-02-09, 12:43
I like the textured XTM panels also...:D Sign me up for a couple dozen of those....

All you need is a few minutes and a woodburning kit....steady hand helps too

halo2304
12-02-09, 12:43
I like it! I can't wait to get my hands on one. Keep 'em coming!

d90king
12-02-09, 12:47
All you need is a few minutes and a woodburning kit....steady hand helps too

It always sounds easy... Now easy would be hitting a "add to cart" for me.:D

one
12-02-09, 12:59
Very interesting, I'd love to move this from my SBR AR to my MP5, Sage stocked M1A, and AK 47.

Titleist
12-02-09, 13:13
All you need is a few minutes and a woodburning kit....steady hand helps too

You're so insensitive! Some of us were born with what the doctors refer to as "freaky lobster claws." How dare you! :mad:

CLHC
12-02-09, 13:32
Whoa, Thanks for the lead intro! :cool:

CaptainDooley
12-02-09, 13:42
Question for DrDrake... Will there be an MOE version of this (to mount directly to the handguards) or is it rail mount only?

RetreatHell
12-02-09, 14:29
Here's some pics showing Travis' T&E BCM 14.5" middy with the new Magpul AFG installed on it from my Houston Magpul Dynamic Carbine 1 course that I've been wanting to post for a while now but couldn't until now.

Travis giving me some guidance on the barricade
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv219/RetreatHell/Magpul%20AFG/IMG_9375.jpg

More guidance...
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv219/RetreatHell/Magpul%20AFG/IMG_9376.jpg

Urban Prone with AFG
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv219/RetreatHell/Magpul%20AFG/IMG_9527.jpg

Travis running the barricade using the AFG
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv219/RetreatHell/Magpul%20AFG/IMG_9412.jpg

Semper Fi,

-Paul

kwelz
12-02-09, 14:33
These photos actually give me a much clearer view of it and I am already re-evaluating my opinion. The angle is better than I thought and it looks to give good support. I will be getting at least 1 to test out.

SeriousStudent
12-02-09, 15:06
Paul, thank you for the photos. They do give a clearer picture.

teufeldog
12-02-09, 15:31
What flash hider is Travis using on that BCM upper? It almost looks like a shortened FSC556.

Heavy Metal
12-02-09, 15:44
I think I have discovered the Fitzpatrick Equation.

Magpul+New Product=Gotta Have=Me-$

The only thing I can thing would improve the left hand side of the equation is a Mid-Length MOE.

Dr. Drake, If you need a Middy MOE tester, Im your Huckleberry!

Thomas M-4
12-02-09, 16:00
Good pics RetreatHell ^^

RetreatHell
12-02-09, 16:42
Good pics RetreatHell ^^

Thanks. A really awesome girl who was there helped me out by snapping lots of pics in that class. She did a great job, I just touched them up and edited them a bit.

Semper Fi,

-Paul

RetreatHell
12-02-09, 16:44
Well hell, now that I started a new page I might as well post another pic or two.

http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv219/RetreatHell/Magpul%20AFG/IMG_9282.jpg

http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv219/RetreatHell/Magpul%20AFG/IMG_0327_2.jpg

Semper Fi,

-Paul

Titleist
12-02-09, 16:45
Nice work, Paul. I think I did miss out on the M4C T&E give away, but I snagged one on the Weapon Evolution give away.

MMm....good...very good! WUAHAHAHA

Littlelebowski
12-02-09, 16:48
Any word on confirmation and shipping if we made the cutoff, Drake?

teufeldog
12-02-09, 17:02
I'm looking forward to seeing a review of the AFG mounted on a 7" rail. Seems like it might get a little cramped but I hold out hope. :D

mp43
12-02-09, 17:11
And just in case people are wondering who the heck I am, I'm the Magpul Graphics guy.:D


While I have your attention, when are you guys, meaning you graphic dude, going to release a screensaver with all those images & comments which appear on the Magpul site?

LonghunterCO
12-02-09, 17:12
Dang- I am out on the road yesterday and look what all happens. I will be up your way on the 18th...I could save youall the shipping on a T&E unit.:D

Fireglock
12-02-09, 21:00
What flash hider is Travis using on that BCM upper? It almost looks like a shortened FSC556.

Looks like this one from PWS.

http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=98&idcategory=6

sgtmajor
12-02-09, 21:23
if there are any left i would love to be in! i missed it on ar15.com an i even missed out when nick gave a few away...please tell me i made it!

sgtmajor
12-02-09, 21:24
Looks like this one from PWS.

http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=98&idcategory=6

i know that chris has one of these.

SIMPLYDYNAMIC
12-02-09, 21:58
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm118/magpuldynamics08/2009910047.jpg

SIMPLYDYNAMIC
12-02-09, 21:59
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm118/magpuldynamics08/2009910104.jpg

d90king
12-02-09, 22:07
Looks awesome! Looking forward to testing it out on several different rifles. Thanks for the chance to take an early look at what looks to be a great concept. Is the angle adjustable or is it fixed?

naloxone
12-02-09, 22:56
Seems to address what I find lacking in the handstop.

Sell 'em soon!

Ak44
12-02-09, 23:09
I'm sure Drake or someone from Magpul will address the ones who will have the chance to do the T&E. I'm very excited and look forward to seeing this product in the future whether its T&E or on a retail shelf somewhere. I checked around and it seems like no other forum has gotten the opportunity that we got :D

FromMyColdDeadHand
12-02-09, 23:13
Observations:

1. I think that this is a really interesting advancement in forend grips, but I think it is only the first in an evolution in forends that are more ergonomic.
2. Travis needs a manicure.

Sierrahotel83
12-03-09, 00:48
This looks cool... It means I should really get some rails on my rifle;)

HeavyDuty
12-03-09, 08:49
Has anyone heard whether this will be a rail-only accessory or if it'll work with their MOE handguard, too?

CaptainDooley
12-03-09, 08:52
I've seen a pic (in the thread in AR GD here) of one on a piece of bolt-on rail on an MOE. $35 looks like the going rate (according to DrDrake in the first post of this thread)

HeavyDuty
12-03-09, 08:55
Yeah, I saw the pricing after I posted. I'll look for that pic - thanks! I really like the MOE HG for my non-railed carbines.

htxred
12-03-09, 09:56
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm118/magpuldynamics08/2009910104.jpg

hey travis when will these be avail to the public? i liked the idea ever since i saw it at the houston class. my sr-15 needs one i think. lol.

Zhurdan
12-03-09, 11:15
So is a tape switch enabled light more important with the AFG than before? Why do I ask? Won't one of the benefits of the AFG be keeping your hand in the same place? That leads me to believe, without having used one yet, that the benefits of keeping your hand in the same place would make activating the light on an offset mount a bit more difficult.

Thoughts?

LonghunterCO
12-03-09, 11:22
So is a tape switch enabled light more important with the AFG than before? Why do I ask? Won't one of the benefits of the AFG be keeping your hand in the same place? That leads me to believe, without having used one yet, that the benefits of keeping your hand in the same place would make activating the light on an offset mount a bit more difficult.

Thoughts?

Don't think so stay with clicky cap with thumb. This will also help in reach the clicky with opposite hand, if light is up high enough.

Tritium
12-03-09, 14:32
I'm really digging the look and functionality of this thing.

So, any idea on full market availability or is this a T&E prior to final engineering and production?

DrDrake
12-03-09, 14:53
I'm really digging the look and functionality of this thing.

So, any idea on full market availability or is this a T&E prior to final engineering and production?

We'll be shipping these retail in mid Dec.

decodeddiesel
12-03-09, 17:34
Interesting for sure.

DrDrake
12-03-09, 18:33
In light of several comments floating around the web on different forums reference the AFG I'm tossing the below up in a few places.


Clarification;

Let me make it perfectly clear. Our intent is not to replace your VFG with an AFG. Our intent is to bring a new concept to market, push the boundaries of design and fill a void in the forward grip market. Some might argue that we're creating the "void" and this is all a marketing hype product. Have we ever done that with any product? We will continue to stand by our products and the theories behind them.

Fan Boys;

We have fan boys and hey, hats off, we love them. But don't ever think we build products for the FB's. They want the best products money can buy just like Mil, LE, casual shooters and competition shooters. Can you blame them? We build real world, high quality, boundary pushing kit period. No hype, no BS.

Ak44
12-03-09, 18:35
In light of several comments floating around the web on different forums reference the AFG I'm tossing the below up in a few places.


Clarification;

Let me make it perfectly clear. Our intent is not to replace your VFG with an AFG. Our intent is to bring a new concept to market, push the boundaries of design and fill a void in the forward grip market. Some might argue that we're creating the "void" and this is all a marketing hype product. Have we ever done that with any product? We will continue to stand by our products and the theories behind them.

Fan Boys;

We have fan boys and hey, hats off, we love them. But don't ever think we build products for the FB's. They want the best products money can buy just like Mil, LE, casual shooters and competition shooters. Can you blame them? We build real world, high quality, boundary pushing kit period. No hype, no BS.

Let the haters hate, you guys make great products.

dutch308
12-03-09, 18:52
I second what Ak44 said. YOu guys do great work!

Zhurdan
12-03-09, 20:43
Are people really bitching about the AFG?

Hell, the weekend before this thread was posted, I dropped $85 on a stubby VFG. And to think those dirty "void makers" at Magpul were going to release an option for waaaaay less than that. Dirty dirty Magpul and their innovation and cheap prices! (sarcasm by the truckload, btw.)

People will gripe about nearly anything on the internet... even a free lunch. Don't let 'em get to ya. Just keep making cool stuff with good logic behind it and I'll keep buying it. I'm not sure how much Magpul stuff you have to have to be considered a fanboi, but my rifles are decked out in the stuff. I coulda bought something different, but the first set of Magpul stuff I bought worked great, I didn't see a reason to try anything else.

I love your stuff!

Sparky5019
12-03-09, 21:13
Seriously! When I hear that I automatically pull the jealousy card!

Y'all are GREAT!! Keep up the good ideas and quality goods and we'll buy as many as we can!

Sparky:D

htxred
12-03-09, 22:28
In light of several comments floating around the web on different forums reference the AFG I'm tossing the below up in a few places.


Clarification;

Let me make it perfectly clear. Our intent is not to replace your VFG with an AFG. Our intent is to bring a new concept to market, push the boundaries of design and fill a void in the forward grip market. Some might argue that we're creating the "void" and this is all a marketing hype product. Have we ever done that with any product? We will continue to stand by our products and the theories behind them.

Fan Boys;

We have fan boys and hey, hats off, we love them. But don't ever think we build products for the FB's. They want the best products money can buy just like Mil, LE, casual shooters and competition shooters. Can you blame them? We build real world, high quality, boundary pushing kit period. No hype, no BS.

down here in texas, we got a saying.. "haters make me famous" lol.

ST911
12-03-09, 22:43
People will gripe about nearly anything on the internet... even a free lunch.

If you give some people free pie, there will always be a few that complain that they didn't get ice cream with it.

FromMyColdDeadHand
12-03-09, 22:48
Drake- Does Travis let out an evil scientist "Mu-hu-huu-haaa" laugh when he comes up with these things?

Once you meet Travis in person and listen to his "cross-training" between combat and competition combined with his study of biomechanics and you'll understand where MS2, ASAP and AFG come in. This is not big chrome rims on a chevette.

Kudos to Magpul for keeping prices real. You guys do a nice job of coming up with cutting edge stuff at Wal-mart prices, all made here in the US. No disrespect to the KAC guys, but their version would have been $200.

A question on light placement? With the AFG, for a right handed person, where would you suggest putting a tail cap light? For reference, where do you guys run your lights with the AFG?

ST911
12-03-09, 22:51
AFG looks very interesting. I'm looking forward to it.

SeriousStudent
12-03-09, 23:08
If you give some people free pie, there will always be a few that complain that they didn't get ice cream with it.

And if you give them ice cream, then they will bitch about the color of the cherry on top.....

Everything I have ever bought from Magpul has been worth the wait and the price.

(and this is coming from a man that stretches a dollar until the eagle screams)

LOL - nothing like you guys busting your asses for 20 years, and then becoming an "overnight success", huh? ;)

Roy
12-03-09, 23:41
I CANNOT WAIT! either way i think its a great option..
Screw the haters more MP stuff for me.

teufeldog
12-04-09, 01:05
Dirty dirty Magpul and their innovation and cheap prices! (sarcasm by the truckload, btw.)


Ha! As I was reading your comment I couldn't help but think of Sméagol and Gollum:

Gollum: "Too risky, Too risky. Thieves! They stole It from us. Kill them, kill them, kill them both!"

Gollum: "Shhh! Quiet! Mustn't wake them! Mustn't ruin it now!"

Sméagol: "But they knows! They knows! They suspects us!"

Gollum: "What's it saying, my precious, my love? Is Sméagol losing his nerve?"

Sméagol: "No! Not! Never! Sméagol hates nasty hobbitses! Sméagol wants to see them… dead!"

:D

I'm buying an AFG when it comes out! If Grant or Rainier had a waiting list, I'd be on it.

Zeus
12-04-09, 02:42
Crap! I've been bitching and moaning about having to pay for a stubby to half ass do just this! (I'm a 260 lb gorilla so the little "hand stops" are not an option.) Now I missed my chance to T&E what appears to be JUST what I wanted all along! Esp since I just threw a ODG MOE hand gaurd on my carbine.

Anyone getting a list together to prepay order these?

SWATcop556
12-04-09, 03:01
The haters can blow me. If there's a hater out there that still got on the T&E list then I'll take there's. **** 'em.

Tritium
12-04-09, 08:44
Ok, so maybe I'm a Kool-aid drinker but, the folks at Magpul never cease to amaze me.

I own a couple of products and will be buying more. As you guys know, the quality is awesome but what is equally engaging about the company is the obvious approachability of the folks that work there, the demeanor of Chris and Travis in the delivery of training (I've only seen the vids but liked how they engage the students) and the fact that these guys are on these forums showcasing new goods and seeking the opinions of the folks who field their products.

Magpul stuff works, it's high quality and the staff are top notch.:)

Great job, guys!

bradb55
12-04-09, 19:57
Piss on all those haters! We the fan boys buy good quality equipment. If they keep making gear that works and last, then why not buy it. I do not own everything they have made because it does meet my needs or I do not need it. But if I does, then I buy it.


Keep it up Magpul.




Has anybody seen or heard who made the list for the T&E?????????????????

oef24
12-04-09, 22:23
FYI....I pre-ordered an AFB from Shelton Stone of Advanced Tactical Solutions.
$34.95 He might have them by next week!!!

www.advancedtacticalsolutions.com
850-218-0323

mrbieler
12-05-09, 11:06
Really looking forward to this. I like the KAC handstop on my DDM4, but the "kink" it puts in my wrist doesn't make for much fun after a while. This looks like a much more ergonomic solution.:D

C45P312
12-05-09, 11:56
Has anybody seen or heard who made the list for the T&E?????????????????
Not I. He did also say that it'll take two weeks til we get it. I think it will just show up. Plus it looks like this offer was on other forums, so who knows.

RPD03
12-05-09, 12:56
FYI....I pre-ordered an AFB from Shelton Stone of Advanced Tactical Solutions.
$34.95 He might have them by next week!!!

www.advancedtacticalsolutions.com
850-218-0323

+1
Shelton said 2 weeks at the most but was hoping for next week sometime.
He did say that he has several pre-orders already.

htxred
12-07-09, 08:17
i think any and every magpul dealer will have these within the next few weeks.

goretro77
12-14-09, 23:42
Looks great! Thanks for making this product Magpul. Order placed.

C45P312
12-17-09, 09:03
Any word on the T&E people yet? If I'm one of the T&E folks, I'm looking at signing up for a Carbine class specifically to test it out. I guess I'll just start saving my pennies until I find out otherwise.

d90king
12-17-09, 09:44
Any word on the T&E people yet? If I'm one of the T&E folks, I'm looking at signing up for a Carbine class specifically to test it out. I guess I'll just start saving my pennies until I find out otherwise.

I was in too, but I haven't heard anything either... I figure they are just swamped doing the launch of it. If it shows up great, if not, nothing lost, I will just buy one.

Thomas M-4
12-17-09, 10:33
I was in too, but I haven't heard anything either... I figure they are just swamped doing the launch of it. If it shows up great, if not, nothing lost, I will just buy one.

Same here no word has of yet.

chenzzo
12-17-09, 11:23
i should be in as well. Haven't seen it yet.

DrDrake
12-17-09, 12:58
Alright Fellas. I just received confrimation that all sample AFG's were shipped yesterday. Most of you should receive them by Friday with some of the local guys taking delivery today. PO box address will arrive Sat or Mon.

Per the instructions in the original thread http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=42414 please let us know what you think of the AFG in this thread.http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?p=518852#post518852 Pics would be great. I don't expect guys to instantly dump info. Post in here that you have received the package and give yourself a chance to make it to the range and try it out. If you can't make it to the range try some dry drills in your man space. All comments are welcome good, bad or ugly. Thanks guys.

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Magpul_Industries/AFG_9.jpg

Titleist
12-17-09, 13:21
Drake, congrats on another very cool product. I'm hoping I'm in that T&E shipment, but regardless you dun' good!

Littlelebowski
12-17-09, 15:04
Just got shipping notice! Thank you Dr Drake and Magpul! Will follow instructions

chenzzo
12-17-09, 15:05
just got my shipping confirmation as well! Thanks Drake!

Titleist
12-17-09, 15:16
Ditto, thanks Drake. Review this weekend!

Thomas M-4
12-17-09, 15:20
ME++++3:D

agr1279
12-17-09, 15:23
Got my ship notice.

Narco
12-17-09, 16:22
:( but :)

Zhurdan
12-17-09, 16:59
Sweeeeet. Just got a shipping confirmation as well. Looks like that trip to the big city this weekend will have to wait, it's shoot'n time!

Thanks Magpul!

d90king
12-17-09, 17:21
Got my confirmation! Thank you very much Magpul. I look forward to using it shortly after it arrives...

Shawn.L
12-17-09, 17:36
got my confirmation.
woooo! hooo!

ROGOPGEAR
12-17-09, 19:42
in before the plethora of ass kissing, haha. jk, I'm just jealous.

RogerinTPA
12-17-09, 20:29
Got my conformation as well. Thanks Dr. Drake. :cool: I'll attach it as soon as it comes in and head to the range ASAP!

C45P312
12-17-09, 20:50
Looks like I wasn't one of the lucky ones with a confirmation. Oh well, I'll pick one up after the holidays. Can't wait to see people's reaction to these.

bradb55
12-17-09, 21:03
Hell yeah! I guess I did make it.

Got the confirmation number.

Thanks Drake and Magpul for the great products and service.

dutch308
12-17-09, 21:28
Yep, Just got home and recieved my confirmation as well!!!!!!! Thanks Magpul, Can't wait to try it out!!!!!

Shawn.L
12-18-09, 14:55
got mine today.

I was going to try it on my MOE handguards but my rail pices havent arrived yet.

It doesnt fit on my RRA half-quad FFT on my middy, its too long for the rail, hits the curved handguard portion before the front has cleared the bayo lug.

My first impression is actually that it is much thicker than I expected.

Once I get the rails on the MOE I'll post about it in the proper thread.

Heavy Metal
12-18-09, 15:00
Ok Magpul, here is a suggestion:

How about a version of this that bolts directly to the MOE with little nubbs that match the holes in the bottom of the MOE for a solid lock-up?

No rail required!

Shawn.L
12-18-09, 15:02
Ok Magpul, here is a suggestion:

How about a version of this that bolts directly to the MOE with little nubbs that match the holes in the bottom of the MOE for a solid lock-up?

No rail required!

sounds great, and the sides could blend in, doesnt look like thats gonna happen from here.

or...................

a bottom MOE handguard that has the AFG built in :D

Littlelebowski
12-18-09, 23:14
Phone pics of the 5.45....

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/baxshep/AFG1.jpg


http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/baxshep/AFG2.jpg

goretro77
12-19-09, 02:05
Can someone please verify that you can mount the AFG further back on the rail? The AFG is not restricted to being at the very front of the gun's rail, correct?

bradb55
12-19-09, 09:42
You can place it anywhere on the rail. It doesn't have to be so foreward, but feels better foreward for me.

http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/bradb55/07.jpg

Thomas M-4
12-19-09, 09:53
Can someone please verify that you can mount the AFG further back on the rail? The AFG is not restricted to being at the very front of the gun's rail, correct?

How much farther back do you want it to go the AFG takes up a quite a bit of rail space. I have mine installed on a carbine KAC ras I has 2 slots left to go farther back.

d90king
12-19-09, 16:04
Feedback goes here>http://m4carbine.net/showpost.php?p=519887&postcount=15

Drake started a thread for our feedback on the AFG...

Sparky5019
12-21-09, 08:22
I pre-ordered one in FDE and am twitching with anticipation!!

Sparky

marlman
12-22-09, 10:59
Sparky,

Where did you pre-order from? Has anyone seen pre-orders in FDE? I have only seen black.

CoryCop25
01-18-10, 20:42
Brownell's now has all colors of AFGs in stock!

Bowser
01-19-10, 00:50
Random question, does anyone have the sky diving ACR picture found in one of the PDF's in full color at the high resolution instead of it being filtered lighter? Page 83.

Sierrahotel83
01-19-10, 02:04
I found it on facebook, is this the one
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#/photo.php?pid=739221&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=59481028510&aid=-1&id=1545137380