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Okay, I saw some show about wild hogs and how they're becoming a big problem in the US and how some areas are having problems keeping them under control.
So naturally I thought that I could help :D
I would love to hunt some of these beast and was wondering if anyone knows where this is possible or has been on one of these hunts and can offer advice?
Also, can I hunt them with 7.63x39? <evil laugh>
LockenLoad
12-13-09, 14:22
Florida pretty much year round open season
Florida pretty much year round open season
There are more hogs here in Florida then there are snowbirds. The hard part is finding someone to let you on their property to hunt them. The hogs that is!!!:D
Texas at night with a suppressor year round I think.
One night a few years back I was road tripping up to Virginia around 0400 and I hit one on I-95 near the Georgia/South Carolina line. I was in my TRD Tacoma Quadcab. I pulled to the side, positive that I had major body and suspension damage but luckily it was the tire that struck the thing and there was no damage, just a hell of a mess. They smell worse dead than alive.
MSP "Sarge"
12-13-09, 15:39
I was thinking about doing a hunt also. Has anyone here done a hog hunt? What firearm do you use? Do you stalk them or just sit by bait and wait for them to come to ya? Will they attack you if you get to closs?
ForTehNguyen
12-13-09, 16:25
Texas has estimated 3-4 million wild hogs, not considered a game animal so you can hunt the hell out of them. They tear up farmer crops bad.
roll out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiHmYsyVniE
Texas has estimated 3-4 million wild hogs, not considered a game animal so you can hunt the hell out of them. They tear up farmer crops bad.
roll out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiHmYsyVniE
Why can I hear the door gunner yelling, "Get some! Get some!"? :p
Kentucky Cop
12-13-09, 19:17
Why can I hear the door gunner yelling, "Get some! Get some!"? :p
That was bad ass! I cant wait to show my buddies that video. I want.....AM going to Texas to do a bit of aerial shooting!
Texas has estimated 3-4 million wild hogs, not considered a game animal so you can hunt the hell out of them. They tear up farmer crops bad.
roll out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiHmYsyVniE
I think I've identified the next M4C get together!
The feral hogs are rooting our place to hell and back bad, they have nearly ruined the berm around the pond destroyed dozens of hybrid orchids and made a general mess. I shoot everyone I can and then shoot them again:D. They have easily cost us a couple K in damages in the last six months. The smaller ones are good eating if you prep & season them well. They also make great coyote bait. Most people that hunt them for food here live catch them with dogs(talk about a rush),or a trap, then pen them up and feed them up for several weeks before serving them up. This guy is about average for a south central FL feral hogs. Never weighed him but those that know more than I say it is an easy 100 pounder.
If your ever down this way email me and you can come kill all you want. 7.62X39 is plenty of gun, they are NOT nearly as hard to kill as people sometimes believe. On private property here in FL they are considered the property owners property and can be taken by about any means one chooses. They are best hunted by knowing their habits routines and AO, none of which is the least bit hard to figure out. Depending on predation pressure they have experienced or lack there of, they will either scatter to the four corners when they see you or merely continue their business like they could care less. BTW we don't have true wild boars or ones with Russian bloodlines, all of ours are from once domesticated pigs(hence the feral tag). Russian boar are a totally different critter and unfortunately not found here.
http://photos.imageevent.com/10mmgary/flynr/websize/9500333-R1-030-13A.jpg
The feral hogs are rooting our place up bad, they have nearly ruined the berm around the pond destroyed dozens of hybrid orchids and made a general mess. I shoot everyone I can and then shoot them again:D. They have easily cost us a couple K in damages in the last six months. The smaller ones are good eating if you prep & season them well. Most people that hunt them for food here live catch them with dogs(talk about a rush),or a trap, then pen them up and feed them up for several weeks before serving them up. This guy is about average for a south central FL feral hogs. Never weighed him but those that know more than I say it is an easy 100 pounder. If you ever down this way email me and you can come kill all you want.
http://photos.imageevent.com/10mmgary/flynr/websize/9500333-R1-030-13A.jpg
Dude I might have to take you up on that offer! Are you in Brandon near Tampa?
Our home is in Brandon, our little piece of heaven(IMO)is in Venus(southern Highlands county), about 20 miles NW of lake Okeechobee.
Alpha Sierra
12-13-09, 21:05
Gary, I am in Florida (Homestead) to see the parents once in a while.
I would not mind killing some over a weekend.
Our home is in Brandon, our little piece of heaven(IMO)is in Venus(southern Highlands county), about 20 miles NW of lake Okeechobee.
I'm visit the TPA for work...I might have to stay in the area one weekend :D
These were emailed to me and from a ranch near Houston if I recall.
I've seen bigger than this Ole Boy in S. TX & in South Africa. South Africa has the exact same hog prob as in TX. I use to do hog culls in South Africa as part of my job. We didn't have choppers, but would "try" & drive them to skirmish lines. Chopper is the way to go:)
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/45Fundi/DSC_0016.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/45Fundi/DSC_0011.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/45Fundi/DSC_0012.jpg
Here are some shots of my Lil'Brother's Hog-Mobile last time I was down at his ranch.
Hog-Cart
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/45Fundi/IMG_4866_2.jpg
Hog-Cart is electric & at night it is better than a stealth fighter:p (well, it is quiet, but those Oinkers can here you spit at 100yds:eek: so the Hogtacular factor is often higher than the kill factor;))
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/45Fundi/IMG_4862.jpg
Share the love:p
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/45Fundi/IMG_4859.jpg
Hog-Cart Gun Racks (pistol racks in there too:D)
Firing positions from back seat of F350
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/45Fundi/IMG_4883.jpg
Liquid Courage to face that Hogasaurus:p
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/45Fundi/IMG_4855.jpg
Okay, I saw some show about wild hogs and how they're becoming a big problem in the US and how some areas are having problems keeping them under control.
So naturally I thought that I could help :D
I would love to hunt some of these beast and was wondering if anyone knows where this is possible or has been on one of these hunts and can offer advice?
Also, can I hunt them with 7.63x39? <evil laugh>
I think that I might have seen the same Cable TV Show it was called the "Pig Bomb" or something like that on the History/ National Geographic Channel.
After, I watched the show I was thinking the same thing. Too many Pigs, gee why don't you invite some of us sportsmen over for a hunt.
In the show, they were saying that there are so many pigs that they have migrated into OK from TX. I have an uncle who lives outside Norman, I will have to ask him about that. He has tons of deer, birds, and small game in his backyard!
Back to the pigs, in California the going rate is about $400/ day to hunt on private land. Most of the outfitters do not guarantee an animal, so the fee is for only the 'opportunity' to take an animal. I checked with several different outfits and they said pretty much the same thing.
If you plan on using an outfitter most of the guys I know recommended to schedule 2-3 days. The reason is the majority took their animal on the second or third day, also having the additional time takes some of the pressure-off needing to find one the same day. By a different token, two close friends who went on a one-day trip struck-out due to bad weather.
The most numerous Big Game animal taken here are pigs/ hogs. More pigs are taken than deer but the vast majority (over 90%) of them are taken on private land or ranches, according CA DFG. There are a few areas were public access is permitted on BLM land but the success rates are fairly low.
An acquaintance informed me that there is pig hunting permitted on certain military bases here in CA, but there is a restriction for Shotgun Only. If that is the case here, perhaps the military bases in your area or in Texas/ FLA may offer something similar (you must be EX-Mil or go with someone active/ Retired Mil). -cost (self-guided) was less than $100 for 5 pigs & if I recall correctly it was in Northern CA.
I am planning on visiting friends in Texas soon. When I go a rifle or two will be making the trip with me and I am going to see about finding an outfitter or better yet a property owner who allows pig hunting on their property.
But since others may be interested in similar experience, perhaps we should have an M4C Jamboree to Texas or FLA to help-out with the over-population of wild pigs/ hogs. I have a few hundred rounds of .308 ammo to support the cause! :eek:
SkiDevil
P.S. I used to use a 7.62X39 mm for deer hunting. It kills 150-200 Lbs. deer just fine. I would have no problems using the caliber on pigs myself. I would try for head shots though and use a well constructed bullet. I used to buy Nosler Ballistic tips from GA Arms, they likely still sell ammo in that caliber for hunting.
Here are some shots of my Lil'Brother's Hog-Mobile last time I was down at his ranch.
Hog-Cart
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/45Fundi/IMG_4866_2.jpg
Hog-Cart is electric & at night it is better than a stealth fighter:p (well, it is quiet, but those Oinkers can here you spit at 100yds:eek: so the Hogtacular factor is often higher than the kill factor;))
Share the love:p
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/45Fundi/IMG_4859.jpg
Hog-Cart Gun Racks (pistol racks in there too:D)
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That is an awesome machine! Your brother is a lucky man, I wish I could hunt in my backyard!
SkiDevil
P.S. My friends live outside of Dallas are there any particular areas you might recommend for Hog Hunting around there?;)
MSP "Sarge"
12-13-09, 23:24
How do you prepare a hog. I'm guessing it's not like a pig (sausage, ham ect). Does it taste any different?
We have an over abundance of wild hogs in my area also. So many that they are open season 24/7 year round. My home towns claim to fame is The Ocmulgee Wild Hog Festival. A link for your viewing enjoyment http://www.hogfestival.com/index.html
The folks around here actually catch them live! That's where the hogs come from that are in the festival. I'm not brave enough myself to grab a wild hog by the hind legs and throw him into a cage on a trailer, but these good old boys have a blast at it. We let them 'hunt' for hogs on our property during the summer just to get the dang things out of here.
While the world record hog was shot not too far from here with a S&W 500 IIRC, it's rare that I ever even see one while out hunting. I know they are here, I'm just not smart enough to find them!
CharlieKilo
12-13-09, 23:55
Any hog that runs is VC, any hog that stands still is well disciplined VC.
Holy Jebus!!!
LockenLoad
12-14-09, 19:15
Here are some shots of my Lil'Brother's Hog-Mobile last time I was down at his ranch.
Hog-Cart
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/45Fundi/IMG_4866_2.jpg
Hog-Cart is electric & at night it is better than a stealth fighter:p (well, it is quiet, but those Oinkers can here you spit at 100yds:eek: so the Hogtacular factor is often higher than the kill factor;))
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/45Fundi/IMG_4862.jpg
Share the love:p
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/45Fundi/IMG_4859.jpg
Hog-Cart Gun Racks (pistol racks in there too:D)
Firing positions from back seat of F350
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/45Fundi/IMG_4883.jpg
Liquid Courage to face that Hogasaurus:p
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/45Fundi/IMG_4855.jpg
those are not your catch dogs are they?
Texas has estimated 3-4 million wild hogs, not considered a game animal so you can hunt the hell out of them. They tear up farmer crops bad.
roll out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiHmYsyVniE
I count 57 hogs confirmed, and 2 probables.
Wish I could have been the gunner!
The Lab is a pretty good retriever and the Aussie is a lap dog that is hell on the June Bugs;) I wish I could trade my wife's pooh eating Aussie for my brother's June Bug eating Aussie:p
I don't get down there very often, so unfortunately I've spent little time in the Hog-Cart:(
Recovering from broken back:eek:
LockenLoad
12-14-09, 20:03
The Lab is a pretty good retriever and the Aussie is a lap dog that is hell on the June Bugs;) I wish I could trade my wife's pooh eating Aussie for my brother's June Bug eating Aussie:p
I don't get down there very often, so unfortunately I've spent little time in the Hog-Cart:(
Recovering from broken back:eek:
we do a lot of live catch in my part of Florida run them with the cure dogs, then release the catch dog on it from the truck, then pen them up and corn feed them for awhile.
EzGoingKev
12-14-09, 20:41
In this (http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=372350&page=1) thread on TOS about Partizan 75g ammo there is a guy in FL taking down hogs/boar with a SIG556 and Partizan 75g ammo.
Here are some pics from the thread -
He says this one is 500 lbs.
http://www.phossil.com/thom/BIG%20Boar2.jpg
http://www.phossil.com/thom/Big%20Boar.jpg
Another one.
http://www.phossil.com/thom/SIG%20HOG3/Hog%20SIG.jpg
And another.
http://www.phossil.com/thom/Hog%20&%20Tractor.jpg
The OP owns a farm and shoots them as they do damage, and then they eat them.
I never really hunted or had any interest, until I saw those pics. I would like to get something like that.
Any hog that runs is VC, any hog that stands still is well disciplined VC.
Holy Jebus!!!
You ever shoot hog women or hog children?
Yeah, sometimes!
How can you shoot hog women or hog children?
Easy! Just don't lead 'em so much! :p
Or something to that effect; been a long while since I've watched the movie.
MarshallDodge
12-14-09, 22:04
Texas has estimated 3-4 million wild hogs, not considered a game animal so you can hunt the hell out of them. They tear up farmer crops bad.
roll out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiHmYsyVniE
WOW! That was almost barrel meltdown!! :cool:
Are they good to eat or ???
They are good to eat, of course it can depend on what farms & ranches they have been raiding. I wouldn't eat a hog that raids the landfill:p We had a 700 lb hog near Tilden one time that was all white we called Moby Dick for a couple of years. If they are eating good clean food they are good to eat. When I lived in RSA Cain Rat was quite a delicacy. Huge rats that taste very sweet from living off of sugar cain... I'd love to shoot a Cain Hog for Christmas Dinner:p
That clip is awesome, maaan I would love to do something like that. Too bad MD doesn't have anything cool like that :(
photosniper
12-15-09, 08:13
that video brings to mind the saying "don't run, you'll just die tired." Like the fact that the chopper was so low that you could hear some of the pigs squeal after getting hammered. Sick, I know.
Personally, Id like to field dress one, cook & eat it once just to know how; but other than that ill pass unless the meat is so overdone its considered a pure carcinogen. Here are some possible diseases and parasites Texas feral hog blood tests have shown, YMMV. Maybe after dinner, you can wash it all down with a glass of water taken straight from the Ganges.
tuberculosis, anthrax and tularemia, Swine brucellosis, Pseudorabies, Foot & Mouth,
Fleas, hog lice and ticks. Internal parasites can occur in feral hogs and may include: roundworms, kidneyworms, lungworms, stomachworms, whipworms, liver flukes and trichinosis.
MSP "Sarge"
12-15-09, 13:23
:eek:
Personally, Id like to field dress one, cook & eat it once just to know how; but other than that ill pass unless the meat is so overdone its considered a pure carcinogen. Here are some possible diseases and parasites Texas feral hog blood tests have shown, YMMV. Maybe after dinner, you can wash it all down with a glass of water taken straight from the Ganges.
tuberculosis, anthrax and tularemia, Swine brucellosis, Pseudorabies, Foot & Mouth,
Fleas, hog lice and ticks. Internal parasites can occur in feral hogs and may include: roundworms, kidneyworms, lungworms, stomachworms, whipworms, liver flukes and trichinosis.
we have a request / order from our biologist to kill pigs on site if we eat them or not. We are loaded but they go nocturnal once you start shooting. Full moons and good optics are the medicine till i can get some nv. We also do some trapping but 4 traps on 7000 acres isn't really doing much.
This past saturday nite we ate one I had harvested that had been hanging in the cooler for about a week. skinned & smoked for about 5 hours. We were like cavemen & nothing but a pile of bones left. Most texans are immune to the list of cooties you have there. :D
Saw the vid last night, If I am right they are out of Uvalde TX out on hwy 90 about 1.5 hrs west of San Antionio.
There offices are about 2-3 miles west of town on hwy 90.
If this the same ones we used them about 12-13 yrs ago to do a deer count on one of my family's ranches.
They were really nice and got to take a 30 min flight with them. it sure is cool to see what the place looks like from the air.
Dave
...all i need is a 5 figure scope
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EymHKsaOpRg
David Thomas
02-13-10, 11:00
I shot this boar yesterday at 100 yrds with my BCM middy with VTAC handguard that GotM4 built for me.
He was facing me, head down. He had crossed a trail and was on the edge of the woods.
1st shot hit slightly high and left (my left) tearing a 3-4" gash on his shoulder and entering his body right behind the shoulder and knocking his rear out of commission. When his rear end collapsed, it swung slightly to my left giving me a quartering shot at his shoulder. 2-4th shots were sent into the front shoulder. He stayed up on his front paws. 5th shot turned out the lights forever. Never took a step after the first shot.
Boar was shot with Privi 55 gr fmj
An hour earlier, my friend, the guy in the pic, shot a 200lb boar with a .270 win bolt action and had to trail it into the woods. I told him he he should have shot more times. He is now interested in AR's.
cell phone pics:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/DavidThomas/boarVTAC2-12-10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/DavidThomas/boarVTAC2-12-10pic2.jpg
Last Friday afternoon, I shot this sow in the head with my MARS 1911. Ammo used was Ranger 230gr. +p at close range.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/DavidThomas/OinkOink-head2-5-09.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/DavidThomas/OinkOink2-5-09-2.jpg
David Thomas
02-13-10, 12:02
I would love to hunt some of these beast and was wondering if anyone knows where this is possible or has been on one of these hunts and can offer advice?
Also, can I hunt them with 7.63x39? <evil laugh>
They are all over Texas and North Louisiana
I think a 7.62 AK would be an absolutely perfect tool for the job!!
I would have used mine yesterday, but I had robbed my T-1 off of 107 CR to put on a 10-22 and I didn't have time to re-zero prior to the trip.
DrBackJack
02-13-10, 14:41
They are all over Texas and North Louisiana
I think a 7.62 AK would be an absolutely perfect tool for the job!!
I would have used mine yesterday, but I had robbed my T-1 off of 107 CR to put on a 10-22 and I didn't have time to re-zero prior to the trip.
Don't forget Florida.
old thread but :)
they are all over the islands
local style is with dogs and a knife thats it
dogs go after them you pin them in a corner then jump on them hold the rear legs and your buddy cuts the throat
plus its tough cause some of the terrain in the islands is steep and hard to get through
my dad closes on 200 acres in Fairfield, TX 4 miles from the Trinity River on March 1st. The 200 acres is surrounded by a 500 acre tract and that land owner says the hogs are ridiculous at night coming from the Trinity River bottom. Im camping there the 5th and 6th with some friends so if ill post an update if I pop one.
About two weeks ago I took this one about twenty miles NW of Lake Okeechobee. It fell DRT due to four of nine pellets from a 2-3/4 inch load of Remington 00 Buckshot out of my Mossberg 835. Of the four hits two were DRT hits on their own, one of the others would have killed eventually and the last pellet was a through and through the soft belly tissue. Distance was right at 60 yards and when bled out it weighed 89 pounds.
http://photos.imageevent.com/10mmgary/flynr/websize/DSC04010.JPG
ivanhedrick
02-13-10, 22:03
this pic was in our local paper with an article about the hog problem in central LA/MS. this is also a video i think from Georgia which looks like alot of fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLp6DQjDjxw4211
DrBackJack
02-13-10, 22:05
About two weeks ago I took this one about twenty miles NW of Lake Okeechobee. It fell DRT due to four of nine pellets from a 2-3/4 inch load of Remington 00 Buckshot out of my Mossberg 835. Of the four hits two were DRT hits on their own, one of the others would have killed eventually and the last pellet was a through and through the soft belly tissue. Distance was right at 60 yards and when bled out it weighed 89 pounds.
http://photos.imageevent.com/10mmgary/flynr/websize/DSC04010.JPG
Very nice piggy. Bet that bacon will taste good. Did you harvest it on private property?
David Thomas
02-13-10, 22:19
this pic was in our local paper with an article about the hog problem in central LA/MS. this is also a video i think from Georgia which looks like alot of fun.
I would like to offer my services.
Lots of bacon in that photo
Very nice piggy. Bet that bacon will taste good. Did you harvest it on private property?
Yes ours, we have a piece of property located in a dot of a town called Venus(just like the planet). My neighbor to the north is Archbold biological research facility, IIRC they are 5 or 6 thousand acres and the largest remaining intact section of the Lake Wales Ridge left in FL. Science types from all over the world come to study the flora fauna and geology. My neighbor to the south is 600 acres of undeveloped land owned by a nursery.
The great part is they don't allow any hunting or habitat destruction, so with unchecked breeding a lot of their over flow migrates through our property. We get everything that Florida has to offer, bear feral hog panther turkey bobcat snakes otter deer coyote armadillos foxes gators you name it we have seen it.
On a topographic map the ridge running north to south down the middle of the state is obvious, and runs from north of the city of Lake Wales and past Lake Placid on the southern end.
http://photos.imageevent.com/10mmgary/flynr/websize/DSC01643_1.JPG
http://photos.imageevent.com/10mmgary/flynr/websize/9500333-R1-030-13A.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/10mmgary/flynr/websize/TopTom.jpg
DrBackJack
02-14-10, 09:49
Yes ours, we have a piece of property located in a dot of a town called Venus(just like the planet). My neighbor to the north is Archbold biological research facility, IIRC they are 5 or 6 thousand acres and the largest remaining intact section of the Lake Wales Ridge left in FL. Science types from all over the world come to study the flora fauna and geology. My neighbor to the south is 600 acres of undeveloped land owned by a nursery.
The great part is they don't allow any hunting or habitat destruction, so with unchecked breeding a lot of their over flow migrates through our property. We get everything that Florida has to offer, bear feral hog panther turkey bobcat snakes otter deer coyote armadillos foxes gators you name it we have seen it.
On a topographic map the ridge running north to south down the middle of the state is obvious, and runs from north of the city of Lake Wales and past Lake Placid on the southern end.
Hah. I used to live in Lake Wales. You've got some pretty fine hunting I see. I'm a bit jealous. You have the life. I remember what it was like to be able to walk outside and do whatever you want. Ive since moved into the city and hate it.:rolleyes:
I am in S.E. Florida ... a friend of a friend manages some farm land not far from me. He has been trying to get me to go hunting with him on the farms land for feral hogs that are destroying their crops. He says he can hunt anytime he wants .. use any gun he wants .. even use 30 round mags in his AR instead of 5 rounders because he is on private land. Does anyone know if this is true or not?
ReconRanger
02-16-10, 23:28
I am in S.E. Florida ... a friend of a friend manages some farm land not far from me. He has been trying to get me to go hunting with him on the farms land for feral hogs that are destroying their crops. He says he can hunt anytime he wants .. use any gun he wants .. even use 30 round mags in his AR instead of 5 rounders because he is on private land. Does anyone know if this is true or not?
110% True. If your now willing to help, I will.:D
ForTehNguyen
02-17-10, 07:57
its estimated that each hog in Texas destroys $1400 worth of crops in their lifetime
HiggsBoson
02-17-10, 08:12
its estimated that each hog in Texas destroys $1400 worth of crops in their lifetime
That's almost exactly the price of a decent AR, a few mags, and a few boxes of decent ammo... :cool:
BCM middy: $1100.00
MOE furniture: $134
PMAGs (x2): $28
PRVI 75gr (per 200): $92
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$1354
With shipping and handling (and FFL transfer), you'd just about break even.
You might even make a profit if you bought in bulk. =)
Man that looks like fun!
Anyone willing to let me kill a few in FL? Ill buy the plane ticket now lol.
I don't want to eat them, just help someone out in lessening the pest population. Is that wrong?
ForTehNguyen
02-17-10, 08:54
you can always fine someone or something to eat a dead pig, nothing goes to waste in nature.
you can always fine someone or something to eat a dead pig, nothing goes to waste in nature.
A friend of mine likes to kill deer on a masive scale in NJ lol. His family has a lot of property and he controlls the population at will. Not exactly legal, but he does it with a bow, so its silent ;) lol
He does not eat them all, bring about 75% of them to a butcher that cuts them up and donates them to a homeless shelter/soup kitchen in NY
We can do the same, kill a shit ton of pigs, and donate them to homeless people lol
I am in S.E. Florida ... a friend of a friend manages some farm land not far from me. He has been trying to get me to go hunting with him on the farms land for feral hogs that are destroying their crops. He says he can hunt anytime he wants .. use any gun he wants .. even use 30 round mags in his AR instead of 5 rounders because he is on private land. Does anyone know if this is true or not?
He is correct.
Hogs on private land are not considered game but are considered farm animals. Hence the rules for "hunting" do not apply, provided you have the land owner's permission.
If you need any help with that property, you shoot me an email. ;)
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/070205%20Hog/IMG_0185Medium-1.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/070615%20Hog/032.jpg
Thanks for the info guys ... will have to contact him and see if he still needs help. Would be nice hunt some and we have many months before the gator hunt comes back around:p Will keep you guys posted on what happens:)
This brings back some memories from New York.
A friend of mine likes to kill deer on a masive scale in NJ lol. His family has a lot of property and he controlls the population at will. Not exactly legal, but he does it with a bow, so its silent ;) lol
He does not eat them all, bring about 75% of them to a butcher that cuts them up and donates them to a homeless shelter/soup kitchen in NY
We can do the same, kill a shit ton of pigs, and donate them to homeless people lol
The bowhunting in Orange County was great. In some areas they had not been gun hunted for many years. None of the animals went to waste and that area had a serious overpopulation problem.
The more pigs eat they faster they multiply. Pigs are cannibals , so there's a downside to just leaving the dead ones where they fall..
10MMGary,
I just came home Saturday from a hunt near Plant City, FL. One of the guys in our group took a hog that the rancher estimated at 300 lbs. The hog 's upper tusks were pretty short (worn down) but he had a long straight tail, real long hair, small hind end, big chest etc. The rancher told us that he was definitely Russian lineage, although he didn't believe he was full blooded. He was built much different than all of the other hogs taken. Was he just mistaken or are there hogs with Russian lineage in some areas of Florida? The hunt was free on a friends property. The guy that took the hog was getting him mounted, want to make sure it's not a waste. If I can find a way to post pic I will.
10MMGary,
I just came home Saturday from a hunt near Plant City, FL. One of the guys in our group took a hog that the rancher estimated at 300 lbs. The hog 's upper tusks were pretty short (worn down) but he had a long straight tail, real long hair, small hind end, big chest etc. The rancher told us that he was definitely Russian lineage, although he didn't believe he was full blooded. He was built much different than all of the other hogs taken. Was he just mistaken or are there hogs with Russian lineage in some areas of Florida? The hunt was free on a friends property. The guy that took the hog was getting him mounted, want to make sure it's not a waste. If I can find a way to post pic I will.
Well I should know better than to say never, hell we have piranhas burmese pythons and wild parrots, so anything is possible. I will say that according to those in the know and who's opinion I respect, claim NH & TX are supposedly the only/last two states where Russian Boar may still roam freely in the wild and are very rare even in those two states. However with trappers or hunters catching and or buying pure Russian boars then releasing them into other areas, again anything is possible. Personally before I paid for a mount I would send a sample of it's DNA off for confirmation, but then again if it is that interesting/unique a hog I might have a mount made regardless.
FWIW the upper "tusk" are called whitters and are not as long as the lower tusk. The whitters are designed to constantly sharpen the longer lower tusk, additionally the tails on Russian boar tend to be shorter and are indeed straight/er with a tuft or ball of hair on the tip.
In ant case be sure and post some photos if you can, I know I would like to see it.
A friend of mine likes to kill deer on a masive scale in NJ lol. His family has a lot of property and he controlls the population at will. Not exactly legal, but he does it with a bow, so its silent ;) lol
He does not eat them all, bring about 75% of them to a butcher that cuts them up and donates them to a homeless shelter/soup kitchen in NY
We can do the same, kill a shit ton of pigs, and donate them to homeless people lol
Last time I checked you/we can't do that(here in FL), feral hogs carry some seriously bad diseases, such as hog cholera, brucellosis, anthrax, tuberculosis, tularemia and pseudo-rabies. You have to be very careful when trapping or butchering and preparing them for consumption, as a few of their diseases can be transmitted to humans and or live stock.
I couldn't find anyone that would touch it(feral hog meat)in any organized manner as far as distribution to the needy was concerned, and it is against the law to sell it for human consumption also. More often than not (especially the ones over 100 pounds)we let them lay where they fall. Josey Wales said it best, " buzzards gotta eat, same as worms".
Bet they make good bait for the other hogs -- and crows , coyotes , etc , as well. Maybe even gators , but that's just a guess .
:D
got this nasty booger at 2am last night under the moon....
David Thomas
02-27-10, 17:14
got this nasty booger at 2am last night under the moon....
very nice.
what were you using as ammo?
shot placement?
got this nasty booger at 2am last night under the moon....
Congrats and thanks for posting. That one looks a lot more like the wild hogs in Europe than the standard feral pigs in the US. It's got the big shoulders & chest and the little cat hams. The shape of the head is about right , too.
I can only see one pic when I click the link -- are more pic's available? I'd like to pull out my old Identification/evaluation of Hoofed Game manual and compare the info to the animal in the pic .
David,
They were reloads...75gr hornady hp's & Reloader 15. He was about 150yds away and the first shot was to the head, right below the ear. He was still flopping a bit and I put a 2nd one in for good measure. It went in the chest. I hit another pig minutes before this guy and was about the same size but he got off into the brush. It's a hoot, we go out before dark and corn the senderos while the fire's getting going for grub and head out about 10:30. We just drive lights off real slow glassing. Staying up that late sure does drag on me these days though.
gbear,
here's a couple more...i noticed he has a bit of a longer snout. I don't really have a better overall look of him for ya. One of the bigger ones I've killed on this lease as they are usually in herds & I alway go for an eater before a monster. It's a size 13 boot for comparison.
In my area they are an extreme nuisance. There are organized hunts by some Federal agencies. Been invited to a couple helo shoots for wild pigs, but haven't had the time.
Also, my parents own a ranch and besides livestock they raise indigenous plants, some that are endangered. I can sit on the porch and shoot the pigs, but I often go out and attempt to thin them out. We are also getting a wild dog problem. As for the pigs, we try to smoke as much meat, or give as much away as possible, but in reality we often end up using the backhoe to bury them, depending on how many we shoot.
Thanks for the pic's . I'll start digging for some of my old books & stuff from Germany. Might take a while.
Picked up another loan boar last night around 1am...before that we picked up a deer shed with a tire.:rolleyes::cool:
All in all a fun evening with good buddies & too much food.
David Thomas
06-25-10, 22:07
Picked up another loan boar last night around 1am...before that we picked up a deer shed with a tire.:rolleyes::cool:
All in all a fun evening with good buddies & too much food.
very nice.
how far was the shot?
very nice.
how far was the shot?
This, and is it dust covered or is that it's natural color.
John Hearne
06-25-10, 22:15
At my old duty station, I used to pop whatever hogs I could find. I used .223s, 12 gauge slugs, and my .45. 223s stopped them the fastest but stalking them on foot with the .45 was exhilarating.
The shot was 175yds & he was covered in caked on hard layer of mud. Actually one of the cleanest pigs i ever seen on this ranch...couldn't find one flea crawling on his underside.
I would love to have a good NV set up. You can shoot good with the moonlite but you have to hope the clouds stay away.
In both Michigan and Louisiana they are considered "vermin" and can be shot on sight.
Also check out the website: www.boardogs.com for hog hunting pics in New Zealand. Impressive pigs, rigs and dogs.
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