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The model AXR is an AUG based rifle that uses M16 or AR-15 magazines are being currently produced and tested by Tactical Product Design (TPD) in Oregon and will be available sometime in June this year.
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The AXR test rifle by TPD shown in 16" barrel and will also be availabe in 18" and more lengths after the initial production
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AXR barrel extension
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Bolt group
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Gas piston
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Gas adjustment knob
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Barrel assembly with TPD designed vertical grip
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AXR's barrel are fluted under the stock and lighter than the non fluted Steyr AUG
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Barrel assembly quick release button shown behind the VFG same as the original AUG
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Rear magazine release lever, note there is a second mag release button located at the left side of the mag well
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Safety button
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CAD drawing of the rail for the original AUG A2 receivers, these will be out with the rail for their reciever which mounts differently. This mounts from the front rather than from the rear. PAT PEND
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Edited to add this pic: Magpul and TPD R&D are working on developing a clear PMAG version, these are just clear test articles, the final product will be black smoke and green tinted.
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Added 5/06/07 - In the photo you will see two barrels one the TPD way and one the way it can be installed and is typically installed.
The foreground gas block and barrel is the way TPD does it.
Material cell structure is well maintained, and color.
The background barrel is installed in a way that is less desirable per TPD's humble opinion.
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Added 5/06/07 "Here is a picture of our TPD-PMAG. Magpul manufactures these for us. It is their design their mold we simply brought to them a material we hoped would work in their mold."
"Things look good so far, but we have more testing to do. They will come in a smoke tint as well. VERY good price point I might add." - stated by Kent of TPDUSA.com.
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Added 5/19/07 - AXR FDE (Flat Dark Earth color) stock
The AXR rifle is different from the other American made AUG style rifle which is the STG-556 by M.S.A.R., the AXR uses the Steyr AUG M16 NATO conversion stocks which uses M16 and AR-15 magazines, it will not take the standard Steyr AUG or the STG-556 magazines.
The AXR rifles will initially use the original Steyr stock conversions but will be following it up with US made stocks with a more improved and stronger materials.
TPD is currently developing clear magazines with Magpul Industries which is the same as the PMAG but will be clear smoke and clear green tint colors.
The estimated selling price will be under $2K and will include a hard case, it will be available in more than three colors which I will update this info at a later date when it get finalized.
Tactical Product Design's website is currently under construction but will be on-line in a very short time from now, I'll post it here when available.
The basic AXR model will be the Liberty series which will not include sights, the user may accessorize as the user sees fit.
It will also be available with other upgraded model series which will include sights and other accessories, I'll update this thread for more info.
ADDED from TPD info:
Tactical Product Design - TPD
Type of firearm: Bull pup Rifle, semi automatic
Operation: Gas operated rotating bolt, short piston
Caliber: 5.56 (.223) or 6.8mm SPC
Rate of Fire: S/A 150 RPM
Barrel Groups: 16” chrome lined, 18” chrome lined 41L40 chrome moly steel, stainless steel
Overall Length: 26.25”, 30.25”
Sights: Any optics with mil picatinny interface, folding open sights standard
Stock: High impact synthetic black or range of color options
Safety: Two position slide lock
Magazine type: TPD-PMAG translucent, NATO spec M16
This is a faithful representation of the original AUG™, with some significant material and design upgrades.
As was standard with the original the barrel is quick removable in a few seconds, fluted option folding fore grip
Rail optics interface is removable and several options available including an extended rail with picatinny rails at the 12, 3, 6, and 9 o’clock positions
Adjustable gas system
Original forward assist configuration
Last round hold open
Secondary magazine release in optimal position for quick magazine changes
Receiver fully machined on cutting edge CNC equipment
Tolerances held to above industry standard, 356 T6 series aluminum
OEM cleaning kits
Fully supported spare parts system and training systems available for the AXR™
You will not find a secondary bolt release on the AXR. This feature was investigated and it was decided to leave it off the AXR™. This feature was not originally available on the AUG™, and we felt that a more faithful rendition of the rifle was the right choice.
The AXR can release the bolt as the original; a quick draw of the non-reciprocating charge handle will release the bolt, as originally designed and integrated.
No other existing firearms parts have been integrated into or onto the AXR™, the design was and still is sound.
What has changed on the AXR™ are the materials used to manufacture the rifle. This is a thirty year old design, yet today it is still unmatched and unrivalled in performance, reliability, and durability.
What T.P.D. has done is simple yet effective:
Crucial springs are now made from Inconel™ a super alloy, rather than music wire or other low grade materials.
Superior finishes are used to coat the metal parts of the AXR™. Both Teflon filled and ceramic filled finishes are used given the performance demand of the part.
The most significant change to the original will be the use of the NATO standard magazines rather than a proprietary magazine configuration. This will give the user both an ample supply of existing magazines and compatibility with other users in the field.
We at Tactical Product Design have taken every step to insure that this faithful recreation will be every bit as durable, reliable, field able, and accurate as the original. In fact we are convinced that we have manufactured a product that in many ways is superior to the original.
Note: All info added are directly from Kent Luttrell T.P.D. LLC.
http://www.tpdusa.com/index.php
Added TPD USA website link 5/02/2007
Added gas block and clear PMAG experimental mags photos 5/06/07
Added AXR FDE stock photo 5/19/07
Great info! Looks very promising.
I'm digging the use of M16 mags, and the price looks good too.
Great info! Looks very promising.
I'm digging the use of M16 mags, and the price looks good too.
Yes, take a look at the new clear PMAGs that Magpul and TPD are working on, I just added a new pic on my original post.
Mags are great right now for ARs and the AUG versions that could use them, I'm currently using standard USGI alum mags, C Products stainless and HK mags on my Steyr A1 with Steyr NATO conversion stock.
I'm still looking around for the new Magpul PMAGs but most sellers are out of stock now, I'll have to wait for the next shipment from the factory.
Another good thing about these new US made AUG style rifles are that they will also sell new spare parts for the original AUG and I'm going to get a new receiver with picatinny rails on them so I could use different type optics and add on a weaponlight.
I wonder how many parts will interchange with factory AUG parts....and....parts availability in general is something of a concern if there's a lot of proprietary stuff inside the gun.
Looks VERY nice.....just wouldn't want to be stuck with an $1800 paper weight if something tanks on it and the uncertainty of future parts availability.
Not saying that will happen for sure, but stranger things have happened.
Very impressive.
I'm planning on buying one.
I wonder how many parts will interchange with factory AUG parts....and....parts availability in general is something of a concern if there's a lot of proprietary stuff inside the gun.
Looks VERY nice.....just wouldn't want to be stuck with an $1800 paper weight if something tanks on it and the uncertainty of future parts availability.
Not saying that will happen for sure, but stranger things have happened.
This AXR by TPD are all inerchangeable parts with the Steyr AUG and it's Steyr M16-NATO conversion stock like what I currently have on my Steyr AUG A1 model.
The other US made STG556 by M.S.A.R. that uses their own proprietary AUG type magazines are not all interchangeable parts, their mags won't fit the original AUG, they have a bolt forward assist like the M16 but on the left side of the stock and a bolt hold/ release which the original AUG and the AXR don't have.
Worried about the future parts, nobody can't really tell, even AR parts and rifles could be banned sometime in the future.
The best thing is to get them now with spare parts while we still can.
Ref: The other US made AUG "STG556 (AUG-style) made in US" thread link (https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=3194)
I always "wanted" to like the STG in spite of itself. But alas, the cost, trigger, ergos, and concept of ignition taking place under my cheek steered me clear. As always, I welcome another successful introduction to the industry, but...
Added detailed info from TPD on my first post.
Jay Cunningham
03-28-07, 19:02
I must say that there doesn't look bad at all.
TPD USA's website is up and running.
http://www.tpdusa.com/index.php
TPD USA's website is up and running.
http://www.tpdusa.com/index.php
Thanks for posting that we are up and running! We still have alot of work to do on the site, but it is a pretty good start. Feel free to add any comments of how we can do better on the site.
We have a rail system that is yet to be disclosed until we can get it legally protected. I think you will like it.
Still good for a late June debut of the rifle an look for us in SWAT mag in a few months. Thanks for the boards and good shooting.
Kent Luttrell
TPDUSA.com
Kent, thanks for coming over to give us updates.
Anyway to get on a mailing list?
John_Wayne777
05-04-07, 08:48
I wish I could afford all these wonderful toys....
That looks like a keeper....
Added gas block and clear PMAG photos to my first post.
I've never understood the geekiness towards clear mags but damn do they look beautiful in that AUG clone. I guess the most exciting thing is that this AUG takes M16 mags AND there are M16 mags (PMags) that will look right in the gun!
Anyone try Pmags in an FS2000? I think the stamped metal mags don't look quite right in the polymer guns...
Kent, thanks for coming over to give us updates.
Anyway to get on a mailing list?
Yes you can go to our new web site at TPDUSA.com and click the on the "sign up" button and add your name. I have a couple more picks from recent shoot, I'll see if I can post them.
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Here are a few of the franken mount and a won over AR guy!
HK_Shooter_03
05-14-07, 16:59
Looks like the rifle is going to turn out great!
Looks like the rifle is going to turn out great!
Yes, we are very excited by all the testing and quality parts that make up the AXR.
Just had a meeting with a company to license some of their baffles and add to our barrel over can design.
This is going to really blow the lid of cans, no joke! The can works in a totally counter intuitive fashion. Does not use back pressure to regulate sound attenuation. Really have no other info at this time, we are at the early stages of this, but the cans are done we just need to adapt it to a barrel over configuration to keep the length down. Comes in at 13 ounces or a tad more.
Kent
TPDUSA.com
So you are having someone adapt their can to this barrel or you are making sure your barrels will accept the cans at a later date when the standard cans do become available? Please tell me it's not AAC and I will consider buying one.
This would look nice with the AAC sprocketed FH but also equally nice with an Ops brake. I don't know of an AAC reflex suppressor anyway...
Keep up the good work and I pray that this doesn't cause the ATF to start coming down hard on new types of ingenuity!!
:)
Is this going to be lefty-friendly like the original?
So you are having someone adapt their can to this barrel or you are making sure your barrels will accept the cans at a later date when the standard cans do become available? Please tell me it's not AAC and I will consider buying one.
This would look nice with the AAC sprocketed FH but also equally nice with an Ops brake. I don't know of an AAC reflex suppressor anyway...
Keep up the good work and I pray that this doesn't cause the ATF to start coming down hard on new types of ingenuity!!
:)
This is not AAC. It will be built expressly for the AXR. It will be can over barrel. One variant will be available as a direct connect to the A2 flash hider QD mount. Thanks for the interest.
Kent
TPDUSA.com
Please keep us posted on the new cans. I for one am very interested.:D
ETA: I've always heard that the AUG won't suppress well due to several design features. I'm guessing that won't be the case with the AXR. Have you modified any features with suppression specifically in mind?
Please keep us posted on the new cans. I for one am very interested.:D
ETA: I've always heard that the AUG won't suppress well due to several design features. I'm guessing that won't be the case with the AXR. Have you modified any features with suppression specifically in mind?
No, nothing is modified, the can does the work.
TPDUSA
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The latest photo from Kent their FDE color AXR stock
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Note: Added this photo to my first post.
The latest AXR news update:
There's a short video of the AXR testing and evaluation at the TPD USA website, click on the Action Videos link button and enjoy. :cool:
http://www.tpdusa.com/
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Here are a couple more shots of what we are cutting now. We have a mid length rail and a extended rail as well. The other rail shots are on my CAD mans computer, when I get to work tomorrow, I will grab them and add them here. I held on to these for some time as we dealt with the Patent office on a couple things.
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Not much longer now. Rails are removable and they slide forward, no need to disassemble the weapon to get them off!
Kent
TPDUSA.com
New video of AXR in action!
Hmmm, for some reason my computer won't play the video.
Hmmm, for some reason my computer won't play the video.
You might need to download a free PC Windows version of the QuickTime player.
I have both the Windows Media player and QuickTime in my PC and the video plays on my QuickTime player.
Hmmm, for some reason my computer won't play the video.
This video is supposed to play on 4.0 and newer versions of Quicktime, I have had one other guy say he could not get video and I went to the apple site and found the download, told him to download the FREE 7.0 version and he is good to go. His older version was preempting the newer version some how.
Hope this helps.
Kent
Funny thing is it played on my 3 year old computer but not the 1 year old one of my wifes. Guess I need to update her laptop.
Looking forward to these coming out.
I think I may like it more than the FN, doesnt look as busy.
I think I may like it more than the FN, doesnt look as busy.
I agree, and the hammer pack they use is just a knock off of the AUG's. If you look at the majority of the BP out there they have adopted most of the features of the AUG.
Kent
Hammer pack in the FN is a knockoff? I was hoping that was what you were saying as it would be strange to criticize the trigger pack in this new rifle as an AUG knockoff ;)
Hammer pack in the FN is a knockoff? I was hoping that was what you were saying as it would be strange to criticize the trigger pack in this new rifle as an AUG knockoff ;)
The trigger pack in our AXR is a steyr hammer pack, not a knock off.
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TPD-PMAG smoke mags should be available in about 3 weeks from TPD USA
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Flat dark earth color test gun with TPD-PMAG smoke mag :cool:
I asked this before, but I think it got lost. Can these be converted to lefty use?
I asked this before, but I think it got lost. Can these be converted to lefty use?
The TPD AXR first batch of rifles cannot be converted to a left hand, because there are no cutout in the stock for a left hand ejection port.
TPD said that after the first batch of rifles are done they will offer a convertible left hand model.
The TPD AXR first batch of rifles cannot be converted to a left hand, because there are no cutout in the stock for a left hand ejection port.
TPD said that after the first batch of rifles are done they will offer a convertible left hand model.
Good to hear
The TPD AXR first batch of rifles cannot be converted to a left hand, because there are no cutout in the stock for a left hand ejection port.
TPD said that after the first batch of rifles are done they will offer a convertible left hand model.
Thanks. That sucks, but it's also good to hear. I've wanted an AUG for 12 years now, but I want an affordable AUG so I can shoot the hell out of it. An affordable, American made AUG is even better.
Thanks. That sucks, but it's also good to hear. I've wanted an AUG for 12 years now, but I want an affordable AUG so I can shoot the hell out of it. An affordable, American made AUG is even better.
Thanks we are hard at it working to get these out and on to the next batch.
Kent
Any truth to this:
TPD uses AR mags out of the box but you cannot use foreign mags due to parts count. So no HK, Orlite, SA80, etc... mags. You can buy an original AUG stock and use it with the TPD if you prefer AUG type mags but, due to parts count, you couldn't use original AUG mags. You could purchase and use the MSAR mags however.
How would a foreign stock allow you to use foreign mags?
Any truth to this:
TPD uses AR mags out of the box but you cannot use foreign mags due to parts count. So no HK, Orlite, SA80, etc... mags. You can buy an original AUG stock and use it with the TPD if you prefer AUG type mags but, due to parts count, you couldn't use original AUG mags. You could purchase and use the MSAR mags however.
Yes it's true, the first batch have to use US mags and they will include a warning card about it with the first batch of rifles.
The second batch of AXR will have more US made parts so foreign mags could be used.
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But why use a foreign mag when they have this very nice smoke TPD-PMAG ;)
Yes it's true, the first batch have to use US mags and they will include a warning card about it with the first batch of rifles.
The second batch of AXR will have more US made parts so foreign mags could be used.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/TPD-PMAG.jpg
But why use a foreign mag when they have this very nice smoke TPD-PMAG ;)
That's cool. I'm waiting for the lefty-friendly run anyway.
Well, nothing to report, they're still doing their final testing and evaluation, maybe a few more weeks to go before the release of the first batch. :p
Meanwhile here's my two original Steyr AUGs to look at while we wait.
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This 16" barrel A1 model with all Steyr components would be similar to the TPD AXR exept the US made rifle will have some US made parts and the very important picatinny rails, they both take M16/ AR-15 mags (note my new Magpul PMAGs)
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My standard green Steyr AUG A1 20"
Thanks for keeping us updated, I will definitely try to pick one of the new ones up when they're available.
Thanks for keeping us updated, I will definitely try to pick one of the new ones up when they're available.
I would like to get me one of this new ones too but unfortunately I'm in the middle of my SPR/ RECCE build project, I might get a railed receiver first for my M16 AUG conversion carbine and later on get a complete rifle after I completed my projects.
TPD are still testing and evaluating making sure the quality is there before they release it to the market, it won't be long maybe just a few weeks away, maybe they could even beat M.S.A.R.'s STG-556 ship date.
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Note the clear TPD-PMAG made for them by Magpul
I hope everything went well on their testing day and there won't be any more delays.
I would like to get me one of this new ones too but unfortunately I'm in the middle of my SPR/ RECCE build project, I might get a railed receiver first for my M16 AUG conversion carbine and later on get a complete rifle after I completed my projects.
TPD are still testing and evaluating making sure the quality is there before they release it to the market, it won't be long maybe just a few weeks away, maybe they could even beat M.S.A.R.'s STG-556 ship date.
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Note the clear TPD-PMAG made for them by Magpul
I hope everything went well on their testing day and there won't be any more delays.
Well, delays seem to be inevitable, fortunately, we are only about 6 weeks behind not 6 months. Couldn't resist, sorry. We are moving along now after delays in barrels from Wilson, after that rails and coating then assembly.
Kent
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http://www.tpdusa.com/gallery/03AXR82707.jpg
:cool:
Here are a few pics and some more new ones at the TPD site's Gallery:
http://www.tpdusa.com/gallery.php
Also check out TPD AXR Rifle forums to know what the current status of their first production batch.
First off thanks for keeping this updated when I get behind! You Rock
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Many of the parts are installed so what you see are next series and different colors of plastic parts.
Boxes contain the NATO stocks, one of several racks of these, we managed to get many more to keep us going until our new stock is complete.
Thanks again for the forum!
Kent Luttrell
AXR Bull pup rifle
"The one that takes the M16 mags..."
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That right there makes me glad I have a set of KAC 300m rear and rail mounted front flip up sights.
Nice rifle. I may have to get one...
Official Update from TPD USA
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They're currently cutting rails on this CNC
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This CNC machine is cutting triggers
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This is what it will look like but in black and four smoke TPD-Magpul PMAGs not five
They have their own FH (FS) and are cutting now, it will be AUGish with a twist, when they come off the machine and pics are available I'll post them.
So in about eight days they will have the first run complete for finish.
They of course will pull them of the conveyor send them to coat as they do.
Scopes are on their way from Houston, it will have red illumination not green. Green was going to take 90 days.
flanntastic
09-19-07, 17:04
i got a general Aug ? here, i saw the competition is doing a suppressed barrel, why can't you just use a normal suppressor on the current barrel on a AUG?
i got a general Aug ? here, i saw the competition is doing a suppressed barrel, why can't you just use a normal suppressor on the current barrel on a AUG?
I would also be very interested in the reasoning behind this. Many people already have 5.56 suppressors and don't want to buy a dedicated suppressor just for this rifle.
I would also be very interested in the reasoning behind this. Many people already have 5.56 suppressors and don't want to buy a dedicated suppressor just for this rifle.
I'm no expert on suppressors and haven't got the bug yet but MSAR stated their reasons on why they decided to make their own dedicated suppressor.
MSAR stated that standard suppressors doesn't work too well with the AUG platform because they affect bullet impact, increase the cyclic rate and increase the bolt carrier velocity of the weapon (per Suppressor, page 5 of their downloadable STG-556 PDF file in their site).
TPD is also developing a dedicated suppressor with their own engineering team and would come out later on but I'm not sure for now if it will be a one piece barrel assembly or just an add on suppressor.
This looks great! I really regret letting the USR go that I had. That case looks like a good option.
Mark
:confused: Will a version be made for the states still with the AWB in place? I sure hope so, as do others I would expect...! :)
:confused: Will a version be made for the states still with the AWB in place? I sure hope so, as do others I would expect...! :)
Yes, per Kent Luttrell of TPD USA will be making some AXR rifles with permanent installed muzzle devices or without any to comply with the buyer's state AWB laws.
The first limited edition 100 AXR rifles are sold out for now but they will making the AWB compliant rifles on their second production run, plus also a left hand model.
If you're interested and want to get a direct answer from TPD USA go to their site (link below) and you could go to their forum and inquire there.
http://www.tpdusa.com/
Yes, per Kent Luttrell of TPD USA will be making some AXR rifles with permanent installed muzzle devices or without any to comply with the buyer's state AWB laws.
The first limited edition 100 AXR rifles are sold out for now but they will making the AWB compliant rifles on their second production run, plus also a left hand model.
If you're interested and want to get a direct answer from TPD USA go to their site (link below) and you could go to their forum and inquire there.
http://www.tpdusa.com/
Hey guys I have been pretty busy, but need to keep up with M4Caribine crew.
A note on the suppressor, indeed the standard high back pressure cans can really hammer a piston system and work below average on the AXR/AUG style piston systems. We have a group working on our suppressor that has some big guns in it, former NASA engineer and sound dynamics guy and they are currently in the hunt fo the next big suppressor contract for all the piston uppers in current use in theater. They contacted us and we were more than happy to have them work out the kinks and manufacture a special can for us.
It will be F/H attach detach, currently the A2 cage, but I was assured they can work with a version of our suppressor. Much like the original AUG F/H.
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They are being cut now and a couple changes were made but nothing significant. Uses a jam nut to center it properly. Not like the original as the original takes 1" of threading and ours is thread at 1/2X28, standard US, so to get compatibility with all the 1/2X28 out there it has .500" of threading.
We felt making it proprietary missed the point of this rifle for US consumption, not business wise but consumer wise. You guys need all the compatibility you can get!
Works great by the way.
Gas reg out of heat treat
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/GASREG.jpg
Stocks ready for assembly
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/natoSTK.jpg
Our sling by Blue force, a Vickers variation to fit our needs
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/VICSLG.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/VICSLG1.jpg
I don't know if have seen the "franken mount" I threw together on afternoon from some parts around the shop worked great.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/AXR010a.jpg
Kent Luttrell
TPDUSA Inc.
Thanks for the update, hoping to see your production release very soon.
Cool FH/ FS design you go got there, it should look awesome on your AXR rifle.:cool:
Great choice on your sling, that's the same one I use for my M4 type AR and my Steyr AUG 16" rifle, they're good to go way better than my original Steyr AUG sling.
I've been following the progress - very cool indeed!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/Hammerpacks.jpg
More TPD pics - Hammer pack modules
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/Triggers.jpg
Triggers
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/triggerrev4.jpg
Trigger installed in stock
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/ring1.jpg
Rings
Neat! I like this one better than the other companies if not just for the AR mags. :D
You are bringing sexy back!
Sorry.
Email sent for possible T&E request.
You are bringing sexy back!
Amen. I want one.
Amen. I want one.
Got it.
Here is a shot of the secondary mag release that makes tactical mag changes a snap. Bang the release with the side of your thumb/palm, mag drops free insert fresh mag.
Here is a poor but visible shot of it with my crack photoshop skills I inserted a red arrow!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/RaisedbuttonmagreleaseWE.jpg
:D
Latest word from TPD was that they're cutting receiver samples in a week, after that they will be within a few weeks of delivery.
So without any major problems the estimated release date would be sometime in November.
Here are a few latest pics of the AXR with the production BFG Vickers sling.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/AXRBLK.jpg
Note that it will have the variable optic that was shown earlier in this same thread and it will have their own design FS (CAD drawing pic a few posts above)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/AXRBLK4.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/AXRBLK3.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/SlingBF.jpg
Jay Cunningham
10-22-07, 07:20
These guys really look like they're doing this one right.
May have to get one!
Looks good (hope the rail-sling mount is available seperately) but they should speak with Samson or Troy to convince them to produce a lower sitting BUIS combination. At maximum it should be Hk 416 height.
Looks good (hope the rail-sling mount is available seperately) but they should speak with Samson or Troy to convince them to produce a lower sitting BUIS combination. At maximum it should be Hk 416 height.
We have designed our own sight specific to this rifle. They need to be very specific to get everything including the sight line correct. The original AUG seemed to be a bit high and we have fixed that, but need to get it just right. These will be backup sights, not main battle sights that fold. Not too much not too little, if you follow me.
We really like the Troy sights though, very sturdy and reliable, that's why we sell them.
We have a very nice sling mount for this purpose, I just whipped that out for the shot in about 35 minutes, and they are sold separately.
Here are the carriers for those interested to check out:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/Carriers001.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/Carriers004.jpg
They are OEM carriers and they look great!
Kent
i am awaiting eagerly… kent just got my down payment. sweeeet.
Looks good (hope the rail-sling mount is available seperately) but they should speak with Samson or Troy to convince them to produce a lower sitting BUIS combination. At maximum it should be Hk 416 height.
In prototype phase now, integral to the extended rail and very low, like in the rail!
Will put up a shot when we clean them up a bit.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/doosan9axis001.jpg
Latest pic from Kent of TPD
Updates? :cool:
The latest status I've heard is that they're trying out and debugging the NC program and would finish their first receiver this week or next.
All their other components are ready to assemble just waiting for the last one which is the receiver.
The receivers are CMM'd, measured for tolerance, in the machine by the machine for accuracy.
They will be QA'ing these receivers for critical dimensionality one by one for the foreseeable future just to be sure.
I'll ask Kent to post pics of his first unit here.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/doosan9axis001.jpg
Latest pic from Kent of TPD
The latest status I've heard is that they're trying out and debugging the NC program and would finish their first receiver this week or next.
All their other components are ready to assemble just waiting for the last one which is the receiver.
The receivers are CMM'd, measured for tolerance, in the machine by the machine for accuracy.
They will be QA'ing these receivers for critical dimensionality one by one for the foreseeable future just to be sure.
I'll ask Kent to post pics of his first unit here.
This is all true. Everything is going along we are testing the customer barrels and doing some coating of the sling attachment and the secondary mag release button. I have let the CNC guys have a bit of space to get the jaws cut to hold the first half of the receiver to cut the rear. I have been riding them pretty hard and much more and there may be a mutiny...
The receiver is solid in the model and the machine is well able to cut the tolerance on it so when they come off I have no doubt about function, it is just a when thing. As you can see from all the pics so far everything is done and assembly is a snap as it is modular in construction and won't take any time to assemble. We have to install the mag button, easy and fit and test with the mated receiver, done deal. One thing is getting the manual printed in a fast turn around and get the locks in from the manufacturer.
Kent
Really looking forward to these things.
Here are some more pic's...
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/newbarrels004.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/newbarrels003.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/newbarrels002.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/newbarrels001.jpg
We like the way they came together.
Kent
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/Christmas08152.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/Christmas08153.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/Christmas08147.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/Christmas08148.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/Christmas08149.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/Christmas08150.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/Christmas08151.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/Christmas08154.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/Christmas08156.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/Christmas08158.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/Christmas08159.jpg
Some quotes from Kent:
"Some rough shots taken of the rough pass on the AXR billet receiver...
Bear in mind this is mid cutting process and a lot more work goes into these...."
I like the looks of it all so far but I absolutely abhor the way you've chosen to mount the sling. The rifle would fare much better if those were QD swivel pockets instead of studs for the "Uncle Mike's" style.
Oh well. :)
Official Update from TPD USA
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/FDEincase.jpg
This is what it will look like but in black and four smoke TPD-Magpul PMAGs not five
They have their own FH (FS) and are cutting now, it will be AUGish with a twist, when they come off the machine and pics are available I'll post them.
So in about eight days they will have the first run complete for finish.
They of course will pull them of the conveyor send them to coat as they do.
Scopes are on their way from Houston, it will have red illumination not green. Green was going to take 90 days.
What's the latest news on these? Ran across a local guy with an MSAR the other day and it made me think about these.
Thanks.
:D
Was this one at shot? SMGLee took some nice pics of an Aug and it looked damned nice.
What's the latest news on these? Ran across a local guy with an MSAR the other day and it made me think about these.
Thanks.
:D
http://www.tpdusa.com/prodimages/axr.jpg
This pic is from the TPD USA site which shows the first AXR Limited Edition package with 1.25-4.5X26 optic, four Magpul PMAG, sling, cleaning kit and Storm hard case, except the FS shown would be different than the production FS
Both TPD USA and MSAR was at the '08 SHOT Show, TPD had their AXR rifle's billet receiver without finish to show their fine CNC machining details.
Their assembling the first batch of production rifles now and I've heard that they'll do them in batches of 10 so they could ship them out sooner rather than when making them in large batches.
Most buyers already sent their 50% deposit for the 110 AXR Limited Edition package and are probably sold out now but they might make more units past their limited edition quantity, I would suggest contacting Kent at TPD USA site if you're interested in getting the LE package.
Here's a link to TPD USA's forum which they shown pics of the AXR at the SHOT Show.
SHOT SHOW 2008 AXR Pics - TPD USA Forum thread link (http://www.tpdusa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123)
TPD USA website link (http://www.tpdusa.com/)
Dylan_Porter
02-16-08, 22:28
That's a nice looking rifle. I've been wanting to get an AUG, I just might have to pick this up when it comes out.
This is not the rifle made by the Microtech Arms division, correct?
I handled a couple of those at the gun show today. They just arrived at the dealer.
I'll have to start another thread about that one.
This is not the rifle made by the Microtech Arms division, correct?
I handled a couple of those at the gun show today. They just arrived at the dealer.
I'll have to start another thread about that one.
No, this rifle is not made by Microtech - MSAR, this is the other US made AUG style rifle that takes the AR/ M16 NATO mags and will be released soon by TPD USA.
The latest news on the AXR rifle
(The one that takes the M16 and AR mags.)
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o177/warhound_01/Picture108.jpg
Pics from the 2008 SHOT Show with optional optic
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o177/warhound_01/Picture103.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/TPDReceiverfinished010.jpg
TPD assembly process pics
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/TPDReceiverfinished005.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/TPDReceiverfinished012.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/TPDReceiverfinished006.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/TPDReceiverfinished008.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/TPDReceiverfinished007.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/TPDReceiverfinished013.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/TPDReceiverfinished015.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/TPDReceiverfinished016.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/TPDReceiverfinished017.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/TPDReceiverfinished018.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/TPDReceiverfinished020.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/TPDReceiverfinished024.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/ShippingkitAXR010.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/ShippingkitAXR008.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/ShippingkitAXR006.jpg
AXR Limited Edition package pic taken at the factory before it's shipped out to the new lucky owner.
The first small batch of the AXR rifles had been shipped out today per TPD USA, it won't be long 'till someone will post that they got it, hopefully they'll post some pics and it would even be better with range reports.
They're working hard, getting receivers and they are turning them into rifles as fast as they can, also doing some pre-shipping function testing on the next batch.
decodeddiesel
03-18-08, 22:48
Damn, 5 pages of pure wow...
This thing makes the Masada/ACR a whole lot less appealing. Any accuracy reports? I have fired a real AUG before, (Australian Army issue) and was impressed, this is an interesting rifle to be sure.
Bump for updates.
Anyone get theirs yet?
JasonblkZ06
05-17-08, 20:22
Yes I got mine. Such a sweet firearm.
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7191/cimg3455vt5.th.jpg (http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cimg3455vt5.jpg)
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8251/cimg3451fs8.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cimg3451fs8.jpg)
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3879/cimg3461uq0.th.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cimg3461uq0.jpg)
30 cal slut
05-19-08, 15:24
Is the trigger pull identical to the AUG ... and will aftermarket improvements fit?
thx.
-slut
JasonblkZ06
05-19-08, 15:57
I have never shot an original AUG but from what I understand the trigger is the same so the aftermarket trigger enhancers work on the AXR.
Is the trigger pull identical to the AUG ... and will aftermarket improvements fit?
thx.
-slut
We have improved it a bit but it is still far from an AR like trigger. It is something you can move beyond if you put your mind to it.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/BIGDGREEN.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/entryweb.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/ShippingkitAXR022.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/kentlik/robertimages1.jpg
Here are few newer shots of the AXR
Kent
tpdusa.com
Hello! This rifle looks fantastic and I think it's going to be my next purchase.
I have a few questions I've not seen before
Are your barrels made of 4150 steel?
When are you expecting to ship a 20in green version? (looking for that classic AUG look)
Thanks!
Hello! This rifle looks fantastic and I think it's going to be my next purchase.
I have a few questions I've not seen before
Are your barrels made of 4150 steel?
When are you expecting to ship a 20in green version? (looking for that classic AUG look)
Thanks!
No, they are manufactured with 4140 chromoly steel.
As we coat with cerakote over parkerizing we arrive at a far greater corrosion resistance than normal parkerizing and phosphate. The slight increase in corrosion resistance found in 4150 is not really necessary in our opinion.
TPD Inc.
Littlelebowski
06-30-08, 06:09
Is there a different number to call other than the one on the website? I'd like to put a payment down on one or pay in full.
sierrabravofour
07-02-08, 09:21
I finally got to finger one of these. I must say I was very impressed with the overall quality.
Trigger was slightly better than an AUG. "Bullpupish" but lighter than an AUG.
You know that you can fit this one with a trigger tammer http://www.triggertamer.com. These are easy to retrofit at home and make a big difference.
Is there a different number to call other than the one on the website? I'd like to put a payment down on one or pay in full.
That number should be good, it rings all day long.
Kent
Is there a different number to call other than the one on the website? I'd like to put a payment down on one or pay in full.
503.703.1972 office
503.574.2397 fax
I need to update another number but I can't remember it right now.
Kent
TPDUSA.com
AwaySooner
08-18-08, 12:22
For state like mine that ban SBR, this looks like the next best thing. The operation looks like it would require a different set of training to get used to.
For state like mine that ban SBR, this looks like the next best thing. The operation looks like it would require a different set of training to get used to.
It's a quick learn and with the side mag release it is very intuitive.
Kent
For state like mine that ban SBR, this looks like the next best thing. The operation looks like it would require a different set of training to get used to.
It should be better because it has a long barrel (more velocity) and a short package.
And at least for me, quick mag changes shouldn't be needed.
Now if someone would make one in 308.
I got a chance to get some trigger time on the TPD AXR today at a Vickers Pistol I class.
I'm very impressed with the quality of the carbine. These guys did it right, it uses a large # of Steyr contract parts, and uses Steyr STANAG buttstocks so you can use M16 magazines.
This is about as close to an AUG A2 as you can get, until Steyr actually starts to ship their new US made rifles.
Anyway, I was very impressed, as I've said. Trigger was MUCH better than the Steyr AUG's I've shot.
Proud owner of #33....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/Vickers%20Pistol%20I%206-7%20Sept%2008/P1010052.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/Vickers%20Pistol%20I%206-7%20Sept%2008/P1010053.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/Vickers%20Pistol%20I%206-7%20Sept%2008/P1010054.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/Vickers%20Pistol%20I%206-7%20Sept%2008/P1010055.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/Vickers%20Pistol%20I%206-7%20Sept%2008/P1010056.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/Vickers%20Pistol%20I%206-7%20Sept%2008/P1010058.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/Vickers%20Pistol%20I%206-7%20Sept%2008/P1010059.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/Vickers%20Pistol%20I%206-7%20Sept%2008/P1010060.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/Vickers%20Pistol%20I%206-7%20Sept%2008/P1010091.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/Vickers%20Pistol%20I%206-7%20Sept%2008/P1010088.jpg
Great pictures!
It looks like the owner needs to put some black tape behind the ejection port where some of the cases keep hit after ejection, a lesson that most AUG owners learn:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/Vickers%20Pistol%20I%206-7%20Sept%2008/P1010055.jpg
I got a chance to get some trigger time on the TPD AXR today at a Vickers Pistol I class.
Were there any comments from Mr. Vickers on the AUG-type carbines?
kalikraven
09-09-08, 08:02
I owned an Aug and the best thing to put there was the soft peice of velcro. That works much better than tape.
Were there any comments from Mr. Vickers on the AUG-type carbines?
I won't speak for Larry other than he did think the workmanship on the AXR was outstanding.
I won't speak for Larry other than he did think the workmanship on the AXR was outstanding.
Looks good Templar! We are glad you are satisfied with your AXR! Anything you need just give us a call.
Kent
TPD Inc.
I played with the MSAR today... THOUGHT it was the AXR at first, then I remembered the forward assist...
Mags would not drop free for me. Seemed to be rubbing on the stock. But I may have been doing something wrong.
Rear sling swivel stuck out too much for my comfort.
Retail was $1500.
I'll wait till I see a AXR before doing anything bullpup.
Great pictures!
It looks like the owner needs to put some black tape behind the ejection port where some of the cases keep hit after ejection, a lesson that most AUG owners learn:
the tape/velcro/whatever is always an option… but it's a gun, not a museum piece. i shoot it. it gets brass kisses. no big deal to me.
i'm not worried about aesthetics, b/c it shoots a ton.;)
thanks to kent and all the crew @ TPD for a great product!
That AXR isn't mine, it's Ron's, but if he hadn't kept a tight hold on it, it might have left with me. :D
I played with the MSAR today... THOUGHT it was the AXR at first, then I remembered the forward assist...
Mags would not drop free for me. Seemed to be rubbing on the stock. But I may have been doing something wrong.
Rear sling swivel stuck out too much for my comfort.
Retail was $1500.
I'll wait till I see a AXR before doing anything bullpup.
MSAR uses the AUG-type mags, so they will not drop free, nor are they designed to. Austrians don't like drop-free for some reason, which is why the original NFML Glock mags did not drop free. It was designed that way per request on the military contract.
Did these guys ever get the Lefty version out?
I'm still interested in one, especially now.
Did these guys ever get the Lefty version out?
I'm still interested in one, especially now.
Don't know about the TPD but the MSAR can be ordered from the factory in lefty configuration or you can buy the left-hand bolt and easily convert back and forth between RH & LH.
Tomac
Don't know about the TPD but the MSAR can be ordered from the factory in lefty configuration or you can buy the left-hand bolt and easily convert back and forth between RH & LH.
Tomac
Ya but I have almost 100 AR15 mags, I have no desire to buy an AUG style that doesn't use AR mags. The ARX uses all Aug parts licensed to be made in the US- that's the best part.
Talk to Kent at TPD. When I spoke to him a few months ago he was buying a bunch of left handed bolts so he can modify a TPD to work with lefthanded bolts for lefties. This will allow you to order one set up for left handed use.
Talk to Kent at TPD. When I spoke to him a few months ago he was buying a bunch of left handed bolts so he can modify a TPD to work with lefthanded bolts for lefties. This will allow you to order one set up for left handed use.
Ed.
Thanks for the info, I'll give him a call tonight.
Probably time to bump this thread back up. I got my AXR a few weeks ago. Sadly, about an hour after picking it up, I was headed to Kalifornia so I had to leave it in my safe back in Michigan. It's a work of art.
As a previous poster mentioned, the trigger on the AXR is excellent. Best I've felt on any AUG, or clone, or any bullpup for that matter.
I have a T-1 Micro mounted in a GGG mount. I ran the mount backwards to keep the lever on the right side for easier charging. It also looks more svelte angled back like that. I'm not worried about caps on the optic, since they are really too small and fall off anyway.
It will remain in the safe until this fall. In the mean time I plan on building up a spare parts kit and maybe picking up a few extras for it like an extended rail.
http://www.sgtlmj.com/axr_r.gif
Any updates regarding the suppressor?
There was an article in the local oregon paper that Kent is selling TPD. Seems like he couldn't compete with Steyr/Sabre and Microtech. I tried to wait for him to come through with a lefty but eventually gave up and went with the Steyr. Still its sad to see any gun company, especially one that makes such a good product, go under.
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