Need Help From Sling Experts...

[SteyrAUG]

Ok, I just got a WCA SG551.

Basically it is a SIG 556 with a original Swiss 551 lower. Unlike a true SIG 551 it does NOT have a sling attachment point under the rear sight. I am hoping to come up with some method of using a single point sling.

The only sling mount point on the rear is on the end of the folding buttstock.

http://sig551.com/templates/sg551/images/Green_Sig_551_LS_Stock.jpg

As you can see with the sling installed, folding the buttstock and slinging the rifle would be a convoluted affair.

http://sig551.com/templates/sg551/images/sigwithsling3.jpg

I also don't want to do any permanent modifications so screwing a sling attachment point into the rear of the receiver is not an option.

I know I could strap around the thin part of the buttstock and create a sling attachment point that would be more or less like that found on an A frame folding AK74 stock but I was hoping someone might have a better idea.

I only wish the rear of the rail had sling points.

Anyone have any ideas?

[chadbag]

play with a BFG UWL and see what you can come up with?

[SteyrAUG]

play with a BFG UWL and see what you can come up with?

That would pretty much be the strap around the thin part of the buttstock option I mentioned. I was hoping to come up with something that wouldn't be on the folding part of the stock.

A few places make a strap on sling point. Does the Blue Force wire offer any advantage to strap on attachments like those sold by Blackhawk? It looks like it would move around more but I've never used one.

[chadbag]

Without having it in my hand I was thinking of running part of the UWL wire across your top rail to lock it forward...

[HeavyDuty]

I only wish the rear of the rail had sling points.

Anyone have any ideas?

What about one of those Daniel Defense rail mount sling points?

EDIT - no, apparently not DD, let me look.

[HeavyDuty]

I was right, it's DD - just not shown on their website. I don't know how the balance and hang would be with a sling point mounted to the side forward of the rear sight, though...

http://dsgarms.com/index.cfm/product/1366_44/daniel-defense-rail-mount-front-sling-loop-adapter-w-pak.cfm

[SteyrAUG]

I was right, it's DD - just not shown on their website. I don't know how the balance and hang would be with a sling point mounted to the side forward of the rear sight, though...

http://dsgarms.com/index.cfm/product/1366_44/daniel-defense-rail-mount-front-sling-loop-adapter-w-pak.cfm

That might be my best option. Maybe even put it behind the rear sight.

[chadbag]

DD also has an offset that takes the PB QD type swivels. DD does not make it anymore except on custom runs but some still have it in stock (like me ;-) )

Chad

[SteyrAUG]

DD also has an offset that takes the PB QD type swivels. DD does not make it anymore except on custom runs but some still have it in stock (like me ;-) )

Chad

Happen to have a pic? I think I'm sneaking up on my solution along these lines.

I'm also looking at this one from Troy. Looks small enough to go in front of or behind the rear diopter on the rail without interfering with sights or causing a awkward hang.

http://www.botachtactical.com/trm1ramoslat.html

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/botach_2087_15403969

I'm thinking I might be able to have enough room to clip in with a HK type claw.

[EzGoingKev]

I have this up front on my M4 -

http://www.rainierarms.com/img/shop/product/8ea5db9f27313f24e3c3ff91cf7a6cda.jpg

VTAC sells this rail mounted sling point that gives you a couple of options -

http://www.rainierarms.com/img/shop/product/33a681c422f4507fc9dd0fd97ea44a62.jpg

[chadbag]

Happen to have a pic? I think I'm sneaking up on my solution along these lines.



Do you still need a pic? Sorry I did not follow up earlier -- was off to some new years eve festivities and have not gotten much back to the forums except the health care topic since.

I don't have a pic off hand but could probably get one with my iPhone once I find where they are on the shelves

Chad

[SteyrAUG]

Do you still need a pic? Sorry I did not follow up earlier -- was off to some new years eve festivities and have not gotten much back to the forums except the health care topic since.

I don't have a pic off hand but could probably get one with my iPhone once I find where they are on the shelves

Chad

If you wouldn't mind.

I'd rather see everything before I order, and when I do if I can order from somebody that participates in the forums I'd prefer to do that.

[armakraut]

http://dsgarms.com/index.cfm/product/1366_44/daniel-defense-rail-mount-front-sling-loop-adapter-w-pak.cfm

Does your rifle have the foldable 5mm pencil refiller front sight?

[armakraut]

http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1243&idcategory=0

With any luck I believe the HK416 sights do line up with the pencil front. Troy makes a 416 stubby rear sight, which would be a whole lot better (and easier to mount a little forward) than mr. popsicle sight.

You could also use the loop of shame (available in two lengths from blueforcegear), or make your own (even more shameful, and cheap to boot, but hey, that 1897 needed a sling and I was cheap).

http://www.blueforcegear.com/product.cfm?type=cat&cat_id=5&prod_id=74

http://www.blueforcegear.com/product.cfm?type=cat&cat_id=5&prod_id=75

[rob_s]

If I understand this correctly, you want a single-point sling on this rifle, so that you can sling it with the stock folded, so badly that you're talking about installing a sling attachment point here?

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/Green_Sig_551_LS_Stock.jpg

[Spooky130]

If I understand this correctly, you want a single-point sling on this rifle, so that you can sling it with the stock folded, so badly that you're talking about installing a sling attachment point here?

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/Green_Sig_551_LS_Stock.jpg

I think that is what he wants to do!

[TOrrock]

I would highly recommend a good, modern adjustable two point sling like a Blue Force Gear Vickers CAS.

Offers the advantages of a two point, with the ability to switch shoulders easily like a single point.

[SteyrAUG]

I would highly recommend a good, modern adjustable two point sling like a Blue Force Gear Vickers CAS.

Offers the advantages of a two point, with the ability to switch shoulders easily like a single point.


I'm still gonna need to come up with an alternative rear sling point even with a two point sling. If I try and sling it as is folded, I basically have a Swiss mousetrap waiting to spring open on me.

[SteyrAUG]

If I understand this correctly, you want a single-point sling on this rifle, so that you can sling it with the stock folded, so badly that you're talking about installing a sling attachment point here?


Yep, and that is pretty much the same location on the original 550/551. I suspect you have the same concern that crossed my mind a few times.

How solid is that rail to be a load bearing point for the rifle, especially given that is where your sights (which shouldn't move) are.

Be nice is SIG made a eye bolt cross pin like HK did for the MP5K/SP89. But even if they did it would be in a less than ideal location. I might just have to strap around the thin part of the shoulder stock.

[rob_s]

I'm still gonna need to come up with an alternative rear sling point even with a two point sling. If I try and sling it as is folded, I basically have a Swiss mousetrap waiting to spring open on me.

I would discard this premise as I see no benefit to it other than making some attempt at concealing the carbine under a large jacket, to which I see no benefit or would simply choose another firearm.

[SteyrAUG]

I would discard this premise as I see no benefit to it other than making some attempt at concealing the carbine under a large jacket, to which I see no benefit or would simply choose another firearm.

I'm thinking of other benefits like the originally intended one. I don't just shoot in FL. I have friends in other states and a couple times a year we go camping/backpacking/shooting. Basically an excuse for middle age men to put on a 3 day pack, walk through the woods, pitch a tent and go shooting.

Being able to sling a rifle with a folded stock makes it a bit more portable.

[chadbag]

Ok here it is. Available with the large PAK thumbscrew (see previous DD pics) or a normal hex screw as shown

http://www.eguns.com/IMG_0893.jpg

http://www.eguns.com/IMG_0894.jpg

Imagine the PB QD sling swivel in shown receptacle