Heads up...HK P30 .40 cal w/PICS

[Ak44]

Hey everyone, posting from my phone in my hotel room down in S Carolina @ Ellett Brothers Show. Talked to the HK rep today and saw a P30 .40cal for the first time. The rep said that the pistol is in the warehouse and they are currently taking inventory numbers and will be shipping out soon to dealers. Will get price point and all that jazz tomorrow. Pics coming soon (friday when I get back to my laptop).

[99HMC4]

Sweet! Will it they call it a P40 or an HK40? :D

[Ak44]

It's still designanated as the P30 and has the .40cal marking next to it.

[clickclack]

It's still designanated as the P30 and has the .40cal marking next to it.


how many rounds will the mag hold?

if its 14 or more im selling my xdm

[sigmundsauer]

LEM (V2, V4) or DA/SA (V3)?

Tim

[sigmundsauer]

how many rounds will the mag hold?

if its 14 or more im selling my xdm

I heard speculation that it was 13, but 1 or 2 rounds is a silly reason to dump a pistol for another. I'd much prefer the P30 over the XDM for its other merits.

Tim

[Marcus L.]

I'll have to pick one up if they offer it in V2 or V4 right away. Most likely given the grip length it will carry 12-13rds in the magazine.

[clickclack]

yeah i really liked the p30 9mm but the 16 rd xdm just seemed like alot of value esp with the extra gear they were offering when i got it.

but I find myself shooting my p2000 .40 more then my xdm because of ergo's and over all feel the pistol.

i will most likely be grabbing this .40 when i can :D

[Ak44]

13rd mag (which is proprietary to the .40cal P30 only...no uspcompact .40 mags), and the model I saw had a safe and fire switch but decocker was on the back. I wish they would of integrated the decocker into the safety.

[clickclack]

13rd mag (which is proprietary to the .40cal P30 only...no uspcompact .40 mags), and the model I saw had a safe and fire switch but decocker was on the back. I wish they would of integrated the decocker into the safety.


sounds like a sa/da

[clickclack]

wow look what i found.. they are 15rd mags

http://www.impactguns.com/store/hk_p30.html

[clickclack]

hey buddy im gonna preorder this thing.. cant wait to see your pics of this external safety so i can decide wich model i want

[Ak44]

The options through Ellett Bros for the 40cal P30 is the Variant 1 (single/double w/ safety lever), the LEM, and a single/double w/out safety lever.

[Marcus L.]

I don't think 15rds is correct. They simply transfered the specs from the 9mm to the .40. The P30 .40 is supposed to be the same overall dimensions as the 9mm, and if you can only fit 15rds of 9mm in that frame, you certainly aren't going to fit the same number of .40S&W in the same package. Impact Guns has done that before with other firearms and then they changed their product description once they had the particular product in stock.

[gtmtnbiker98]

I am willing to bet that it's 14-rounds. Look at the P2000, the 9mm carries 13-rounds where the .40 carries 12-rounds. Same holds true for the SK, the 9mm carries 10-rounds and the .40 carries 9. So, the current P30 9mm 15-rounds and I'm willing to speculate that the .40 version will be a 14-rounder.

[Ak44]

From what I was told by my Rep at Ellet, there are 10rd mags and 13rd mags. The model I saw had a 13rd mag in it and a 13rd mag on the side.

[Ak44]

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2212/p30n.jpg

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1761/p303.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/793/p302.jpg

Sorry for the crap quality pics. These were done on my phone. My camera didn't have its memory card in it...I left it at home by accident :mad:

[gtmtnbiker98]

Congrats, these are perhaps the first pics outside of HK.

[Ak44]

Hopefully this isn't a big deal, I asked the rep if it was cool to take pics with my phone and he didn't seem to mind... :cool: One would assume people taking pics at a show would ultimately end up on the internet.

[NCPatrolAR]

Looks nice. If I were to ever move from the M&P, I'd seriously look at getting one of these. The mag release would be my biggest hurdle to overcome.

[clickclack]

wow thanks so much..

funny the 9mm guys have been waiting for the safety for ever! the .40 guys might get it on the first run :p

[Irfan]

The safety can only be engaged when the hammer is forward, right? No condition 1. :(

[clickclack]

The safety can only be engaged when the hammer is forward, right? No condition 1. :(

what?

its a single action double action.. you just go to double action with the hammer forward..

[sigmundsauer]

The mag release would be my biggest hurdle to overcome.

Funny. The mag release is usually praised by most who use it. HK paddles are faster and more secure than any other mag release type, IMO. They are not designed to use with your thumb, though.

Tim

[NCPatrolAR]

Funny. The mag release is usually praised by most who use it. HK paddles are faster and more secure than any other mag release type, IMO. They are not designed to use with your thumb, though.

Tim

I know release paddles should be operated with your trigger finger. One of our old duty pistols had the same style release and I never warmed up to it

[NinjaMedic]

Funny. The mag release is usually praised by most who use it. HK paddles are faster and more secure than any other mag release type, IMO. They are not designed to use with your thumb, though.

Tim

Right but for the vast majority of us american shooters this represents a significant departure from our tried and true thumb magazine release thats been used since the late 1800's on autoloaders and even to reload revolvers. This represents a signifiant training issue to overcome to make the HK style release second nature. It is my major reservation with the platform as well.

[ToddG]

One would assume people taking pics at a show would ultimately end up on the internet.

If the rep didn't stop you, you've got nothing to worry about or feel bad about. You scooped every website, blog, and magazine on the planet!


Looks nice. If I were to ever move from the M&P, I'd seriously look at getting one of these. The mag release would be my biggest hurdle to overcome.

The majority of people who worry or dislike the mag release paddles are, in my experience, simply not accustomed to them. However, I know more than a few very serious and talented shooters who -- to borrow NCPatrolAR's comment -- just can't warm up to them.

I found the transition completely transparent, but I've been using a trigger finger mag release for more than a decade now. For me, it's the Glock mag button that is difficult to operate efficiently. Different strokes.


The safety can only be engaged when the hammer is forward, right? No condition 1. :(

Although that was the internet rumor for a while, general consensus -- and HK GmbH's website -- indicates that C&L carry is possible with the "S" models.

[XKL]

Sorry for the crap quality pics. These were done on my phone. My camera didn't have its memory card in it...I left it at home by accident :mad:

You should have seen if the president of H&K USA was available to run and get you a new memory card. He's got a history of doing that for folks.

[Ak44]

You should have seen if the president of H&K USA was available to run and get you a new memory card. He's got a history of doing that for folks.


Huh? :confused:

[XKL]

Huh? :confused:

See the second to last posting here http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=30422&page=10

[ToddG]

You should have seen if the president of H&K USA was available to run and get you a new memory card. He's got a history of doing that for folks.

Brutal. :cool:

[Marcus L.]

AK44,

Did you by any chance happen to look at the .40 close enough to see if it seemed a little "thin" in certain areas? Sometimes manufacturers make the grips a little thin in order to convert their 9mms to .40s.

Also, how did the slide look? Did HK make it a little more robust than the 9mm to handle the .40?

I just hope they didn't cut any corners so this will be a reliable and durable .40. Not that H&K puts out crappy products or anything, but some manufacturers cut some corners in the conversion.

[GlockCop525]

any idea/guesses on what the MSRP will be at/around for the eastern coast market?

[The Dumb Gun Collector]

Marcus,

Anything is possible, but I doubt they cut any corners. HK famously turned the P7M10 into a brick to deal with the .40 cartridge. The USP was designed from the get-go to handle .40 and the P2000 and P30 are developments of the USP compact line.

[kmrtnsn]

Please, please, please HK, send a box of P30 .40's with the LEM trigger to ALtoona for eval, please!

[kmrtnsn]

Greg, does the P30 .40 use a unique magazine or does it use the P2000/USPc magazine?

[Ak44]

Unique mag from what the Rep told me at the Show. Will reconfirm at Shot. Marcus, didn't happen to play too much with it because I was too disappointed that they didn't have the MR556 on display. It felt identical to the p30 (in terms of weight), but didn't disassemble it or anything for further inspection.

[kmrtnsn]

Bummer. If it uses a unique magazine then I am not interested in it. Thanks for the info. HK, nevermind; please send some more P2000's instead.

[Marcus L.]

Bummer. If it uses a unique magazine then I am not interested in it. Thanks for the info. HK, nevermind; please send some more P2000's instead.

How can it use the same .40 magazine as the P2000 if the P30 has a larger capacity and grip/magazine length? Technically, you are asking for the impossible unless they were to chop down the P30 grip length to match that of the P2000.

[kmrtnsn]

I reasoned that if the P30 uses 15 round mags in 9mm then the .40 would be in the 12 round range; the same as the P2000. I want the magazines to fit in my P2000SK for commonality.

[Marcus L.]

From what I was told by my Rep at Ellet, there are 10rd mags and 13rd mags. The model I saw had a 13rd mag in it and a 13rd mag on the side.

The P30 is more of a hybrid between a full sized pistol and a compact pistol. The P2000 is a compact pistol. Larger grip and larger capacity over the P2000.

[clickclack]

i use usp mags in my p2000 but im cool with buying a few more mags for this p30..

honestly the p30 is the most comfortable pistol i have every handled I would have bought it on the spot if it came in .40 shtttt i almost bought it even though it was 9mm but instead god loves me and now we have this.

:D

[kmrtnsn]

Thanks Marcus. I have yet to handle a P30. No one ever has one in stock. I have a USPc and a P2000SK. If I got a P30 in .40 I'd like some interchangeability with at least the SK for carry/BU purposes.