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Dienekes

01-07-10, 00:02

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiyqvuTxaEs&feature=player_embedded#

Expresses my thoughts EXACTLY.

I propose to play it every morning with my first cup of coffee. Carthago delenda est.

Enjoy.

tampam4

01-07-10, 01:11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiyqvuTxaEs&feature=player_embedded#

Expresses my thoughts EXACTLY.

I propose to play it every morning with my first cup of coffee. Carthago delenda est.

Enjoy.

And afterwards, I'd recommend actually doing something about it. ;) Not saying that this is the case for you, but I always see so many people watching videos about similar things such as the video you posted, talking about it to their buddies and saying this and that, and afterwards go back to their whatever their doing without thinking twice. Watching a video to get you pumped up for anti-liberalism and then moving on without actual action is useless, and is the case with too many people today. We will gain no victories simply by listening to radio stations and videos and silently agreeing.

bkb0000

01-07-10, 01:43

dmancornell

01-07-10, 01:47

Outlander Systems

01-07-10, 08:04

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=44489

these motivational clips are popping up like zits on a 13 year old's forehead, but i just dont see them doing anything but making people post dupe threads on their favorite like-minded internet forums.

in order for me to get fired up over a motivational youtube clip, i'm gonna need to see a realistic pro-active plan and a call to action. not just "make sure you vote for the same gay do-nothing republican assholes you were already going to vote for."

not trying to tear you down, OP- just tired of the apathy.

This. Let us not forget that our good friends the Republicans are nothing more than Socialists-Lite™.

Until we either:

1) Start putting some Constitutionalists and/or Libertarians in office
2) Start elect real-human-beings, instead of worms

We will continue to drift further and further away from anything resembling a Constitutional Republic.

The "two-party" system, in my eyes, has failed us miserably. It's like trying to order a healthy entree' at McDonald's. Sure, you've got choices, but both have established a historical precedent for heartburn and indigestion. YMMV.

Now, if one of the Republicrats or Demicons proposed the "Single Term Limit Act of 2010", and the weasel voted on it, my perspective would change, radically.

Outlander Systems

01-07-10, 08:08

^

While I agree action is necessary, it is hard for small government advocates to stay motivated when the current statist regime plans on staying perpetually in power by printing an endless stream of funny money for political bribes.

Money rules politics. Just look at the supposedly conservative mountain and midwest states sending leftists to congress because they promise pork and eternal farm bills. This regime is especially shameless in using the money press as a political weapon.

I fear the only way Americans will see the light is when the public debt defaults.

Someone "gets it".

It's a hamster wheel of endless corruption, amigo. If these hacks won't self-police, we have to do it for 'em. We continue to elect these slithering, suit-sporting, snakes, and they continually support their true constituency, while the citizenry, and what's in their best interests, are brushed aside for business-as-usual.

Outlander Systems

01-07-10, 08:32

Truly apropos:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/the-first-huffpost-book-c_b_412999.html

andre3k

01-07-10, 08:53

This. Let us not forget that our good friends the Republicans are nothing more than Socialists-Lite™.

Until we either:

1) Start putting some Constitutionalists and/or Libertarians in office
2) Start elect real-human-beings, instead of worms

We will continue to drift further and further away from anything resembling a Constitutional Republic.

The "two-party" system, in my eyes, has failed us miserably. It's like trying to order a healthy entree' at McDonald's. Sure, you've got choices, but both have established a historical precedent for heartburn and indigestion. YMMV.

Now, if one of the Republicrats or Demicons proposed the "Single Term Limit Act of 2010", and the weasel voted on it, my perspective would change, radically.

That's not going to happen anytime soon, because when you run for office your primary goal is to WIN. I'm currently a volunteer with a candidate who is running for the Republican Senate seat being vacated by Kay Bailey Hutchinson (TX). This is the second campaign that I've been a part of and its an eye opening experience to say the least and good preparation for my political aspirations in the near future.

In a state like TX if you run as a third party candidate you simply wont win. So you are forced to pick one of two sides. Like others here I simply got tired of hearing all the talk and I decided to make things happen for myself. I went back to graduate school and finished my Masters in Criminology and now headed back to receive my JD/PhD. Then I started volunteering on local conservative campaigns and learned the ins and outs of networking and the art of campaign financing.

Outwardly it seems that running for a political office is a "throw your hat in the ring" kind of thing. In reality its a full time job with a staff and a team of volunteers just to get your name on the ballot. The thing that scared me for years from running for office is the mentality that I wasn't rich or I didn't come from a privileged family and that I wasn't educated enough. But I realized that at some point you simply have to put up or shut up and that's what I did.

I hope that more people decide to do the same.

ChicagoTex

01-07-10, 09:58

In a state like TX if you run as a third party candidate you simply wont win.

In a state like TX if you run against an incumbent you simply won't win.

This is why American politicians are out of touch, the electorate will vote in incumbents until the end of time because the only election they pay attention to is the presidential one.

In many ways, your federal congressmen and senators and even your state congressmen and senators have a much more direct impact on your life... it'd be nice if anyone besides a handful of Americans could be bothered to actually research THOSE elections... :mad:

You can blame Obama all you want for the deficit spending, but hundreds of senators and congressmen approved it...

Business_Casual

01-07-10, 10:16

True, our guy (Moran - D) doesn't even bother to advertise. He just sails in each election. There has never been a serious challenge.

M_P

montanadave

01-07-10, 10:37

Truly apropos:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/the-first-huffpost-book-c_b_412999.html

Interesting that you posted this link as, after reading several of the comments, this book immediately came to mind. I haven't read the book yet but I'm curious as to what steps can be taken to mitigate the power and influence of these "elites" who shuttle between the public and private sector, influencing policy across the board, but are unelected?

BackBlast

01-07-10, 11:32

In a state like TX if you run against an incumbent you simply won't win.

In Utah we managed to boot one. We replaced an R with an R cause he wasn't good enough. So far, the new R has been much better - but it's easy to be an R when the Ds are in power. Anyway, in the current climate, it's getting easier to boot them. People are catching on to some of the games.

This is why American politicians are out of touch, the electorate will vote in incumbents until the end of time because the only election they pay attention to is the presidential one.

I've walked neighborhoods. Apathy is very wide spread. Very few people care beyond their own little personal world where they seek fulfillment. But that seems par for the course, I believe from history class, only 5% of Americans were very active in resisting the British. Though they were much better at electing quality leadership... Something we're very bad at.

In many ways, your federal congressmen and senators and even your state congressmen and senators have a much more direct impact on your life... it'd be nice if anyone besides a handful of Americans could be bothered to actually research THOSE elections... :mad:

Don't forget the city council and county seats. In some respects, it's much easier to compete in those elections. If you're getting involved, I recommend looking at these lower races first and foremost. A good person at the state and even county level is perhaps much more important than in DC at present.

You can blame Obama all you want for the deficit spending, but hundreds of senators and congressmen approved it...

I blame Obama, I blame Bush, and I blame EVERY YES VOTE on all the reckless spending bills. I blame every state taking federal dollars in these days. I blame both parties for not even discussing fiscal restraint and deficits while in power, it's been relegated to a minor party issue, which means nothing comes of it.

I'm not sure if many yet realize how poison laced the federal "stimulus" money is.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704152804574628633460370644.html

Remember how $200 billion in federal stimulus cash was supposed to save the states from fiscal calamity? Well, hold on to your paychecks, because a big story of 2010 will be how all that free money has set the states up for an even bigger mess this year and into the future.

...

First, in most state capitals the stimulus enticed state lawmakers to spend on new programs rather than adjusting to lean times...

Second, stimulus dollars came with strings attached that are now causing enormous budget headaches. Many environmental grants have matching requirements, so to get a federal dollar, states and cities had to spend a dollar even when they were facing huge deficits. The new construction projects built with federal funds also have federal Davis-Bacon wage requirements that raise state building costs to pay inflated union salaries.

Worst of all, at the behest of the public employee unions, Congress imposed "maintenance of effort" spending requirements on states. These federal laws prohibit state legislatures from cutting spending on 15 programs, from road building to welfare, if the state took even a dollar of stimulus cash for these purposes.

Every dollar you took, was a poison pill that either locks you budget down or makes you spend more money. Not a good idea heading into the economic abyss...

Anyway, goodluck gentlemen. I would put most of your efforts into local governments where you can have a bigger impact. DC is pretty much a lost cause short of a miracle, but maybe we can install a spine in a state or 5.

dmancornell

01-07-10, 12:44

DC is pretty much a lost cause short of a miracle, but maybe we can install a spine in a state or 5.

The DC statists base all their power on federal funny money. The miracle will come in the form of total fiscal collapse. It's more of an inevitability really. But I shudder to think what those bastards will do to try to hold on to power.

Dienekes

01-07-10, 12:46

FWIW--If my posting that link left the impression that I thought that was an exceptionally meritorious action--so I could kick back and pat myself on the back...

Not really. I liked it, thought it needed a push out there and that it would provoke some discussion and activity; and it did.

What we are dealing with now has ample precedent in history; it's not rocket science. I worked on a case back in the 1980s that most people wouldn't believe even now. One of the things that helped me keep going was a pungent quote from Tom Paine's 'The Crisis'. The good guys won, but at a cost; and the few of us that were there learned the lessons in spades. Lots of other people have similar 'educations' and feel just as strongly. Having taken the oath to 'protect and defend' really does matter...to me anyway.