View Full Version : New DD rifles!
justin_247
01-24-10, 03:09
Being a fan of Daniel Defense, I thought I should point out that DD has released four new rifles:
DDXVM - same as the DDXV except with a midlength gas system
DDM4v3 - similar to the DDM4v2, but with a midlength gas system and longer rail
DDV 6.8 - similar to the DDM4v3, but chambered in 6.8 mm
Ambush 6.8 - a variant of the DDV 6.8 oriented towards hunters
Check them out!
http://www.danieldefense.com/?page=shop/browse&category=rifles
jdavis6576
01-24-10, 07:06
I have a DDM4 and love it so this interests me.
A few things I noticed:
- 1:10 twist. From what I've read online (so it has to be the truth ;)) a 1:11 or 1:12 works better.
- there was no mention of the chamber, Spec I or Spec II.
- and most surprisingly, it comes with a 30 round PMAG. :eek:
I didn't know PMAGs were available in 6.8. Perhaps someone did a copy/paste on some of the specs from their 5.56 rifles. I'm also curious why they didn't offer it with the 12" rail.
ForTehNguyen
01-24-10, 08:32
nice to see how midlengths are becoming more and more popular
Robb Jensen
01-24-10, 08:42
I saw the 6.8SPC at the Daniel Defense booth and Joe Marler showed me all of the new products coming out for 2010. The 6.8SPC intrigues me since I already hunt with a 6.8 AR.
The midlength 5.56mm guns should do very well too. The new 'pin-ready' low pro gas block which is pre-drilled is nice. This shows that this company cares and has been listening to their customers who have been asking for pinned gas blocks. The also have a long low pro gas block which will cover the taper pin areas on a barrel where a FSB was removed. One other new gas block they have is a clamp on on with much small screw head caps that are much smaller which should fit under rails with very tight internal dimensions.
I have a DDM4 and love it so this interests me.
A few things I noticed:
- 1:10 twist. From what I've read online (so it has to be the truth ;)) a 1:11 or 1:12 works better.
- there was no mention of the chamber, Spec I or Spec II.
- and most surprisingly, it comes with a 30 round PMAG. :eek:
I didn't know PMAGs were available in 6.8. Perhaps someone did a copy/paste on some of the specs from their 5.56 rifles. I'm also curious why they didn't offer it with the 12" rail.
CHF barrel ..Cr lined...M4 cuts...
I talked to DD a couple days ago about the "Ambush" and their tech told me
it had a Spec II chamber
But 1 in 10 twist....
The 1 in 11 twist...4 groove...Spec II chamber is really what you need to shoot lighter bullets and hotter loads
like SSA's offerings...
For me I really want the 85-95 gr bullets doing over 3000fps out of my 16" middy
Its the hotter loaded ammo that makes the 6.8 such a nice platform especially out of
a short barrel...
Bushmaster told folks that they were going with the 1 in 11 twist as did Remington
If DD had made this in 1 in 11 it would have ruled...imo
Dang that is disappointing news...hopefully they will change their mind of course that
would probably mean a different mandrel?....
dookie1481
01-25-10, 02:05
I have a DDM4 and love it so this interests me.
A few things I noticed:
- 1:10 twist. From what I've read online (so it has to be the truth ;)) a 1:11 or 1:12 works better.
- there was no mention of the chamber, Spec I or Spec II.
- and most surprisingly, it comes with a 30 round PMAG. :eek:
I didn't know PMAGs were available in 6.8. Perhaps someone did a copy/paste on some of the specs from their 5.56 rifles. I'm also curious why they didn't offer it with the 12" rail.
SPC II, a DD rep stated so in a video from SHOT.
Jay
I have a DDM4 and love it so this interests me.
A few things I noticed:
- 1:10 twist. From what I've read online (so it has to be the truth ;)) a 1:11 or 1:12 works better.
- there was no mention of the chamber, Spec I or Spec II.
- and most surprisingly, it comes with a 30 round PMAG. :eek:
I didn't know PMAGs were available in 6.8. Perhaps someone did a copy/paste on some of the specs from their 5.56 rifles. I'm also curious why they didn't offer it with the 12" rail.
Following the thread on 68 forums, they promise it will be spc II and 1 n 11.
This will be a solid factory gun, great for the 68 market and the progression of the caliber.
will the 6.8 bbl be made on the new chf tooling??
I've had several friends ask me what kind of AR to get.
the DDM4v3 just rose to the top of the list for a COTS offering.
will the 6.8 bbl be made on the new chf tooling??
As I understand, yes. Hopefully they will bring this to the M4 class coming up so we can shoot it.
Any news on a midlength with a low pro gas block and a 12" Omega X rail.
As I understand, yes. Hopefully they will bring this to the M4 class coming up so we can shoot it.
Please keep me posted...this news kinda made it move a little.
The way my cut down dd 5.56 bbl is shooting, i could see a 6.8 in my future. I honestly didn't realize about the ii chamber / twist preference and lighter pills until very recently.
Please keep me posted...this news kinda made it move a little.
The way my cut down dd 5.56 bbl is shooting, i could see a 6.8 in my future. I honestly didn't realize about the ii chamber / twist preference and lighter pills until very recently.
My first step into the 6.8 is the Armalite spc II 1 n 10, the 85 grain tacticalloads from SSA did an average of 2960 or so in 4o degree weather, the 1 n 11 should get a bit more. Accuarcy was the same as the 110's
Visit the 68 forums and get some more info, will update
http://www.68forums.com/forums/index.php
http://www.68forums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11572
Any news on a midlength with a low pro gas block and a 12" Omega X rail.
I would do a 12 Lite rail with that set up
ForTehNguyen
01-25-10, 11:28
A 12.0 X on a middy would be too gigantic of a rail, I doubt they would make it. Just use a 12.0
Just imagine another couple inches of rail on this (BCM Middy + DD 12.0 Lite)
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm49/PreludePowerR/IMG_7794.jpg
Heavy Metal
01-25-10, 11:52
DD is a company that gets it. Kudos to DD.
Yes --This Would be Nice
Quote:
Originally Posted by LSK
Any news on a midlength with a low pro gas block and a 12" Omega X rail.
Is DD using a milspec or comercial buffer tube?
ForTehNguyen
01-25-10, 14:38
milspec
LIL-COMMANDO
01-26-10, 13:54
I wonder if they will design their own Piston rifle since they have Vickers as a
consultant.;)
I saw the 6.8SPC at the Daniel Defense booth and Joe Marler showed me all of the new products coming out for 2010. The 6.8SPC intrigues me since I already hunt with a 6.8 AR.
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A "mil-spec" 6.8 is really intriguing me. I never gave it much thought due to the fact that the only cost effective platforms that were out there were by companies that were not M4C approved (as far as I looked).
Thomas M-4
01-26-10, 20:58
6.8 spc specII chamber ,1/11 twist ,4150 cmv ,& hammer forged barrel. Sweet:D:cool:
KingsideRook
01-26-10, 22:47
More options for rifles done Daniel Defense's way can only be good news. I'm glad to see them expand into midlengths and 6.8.
Got a nice email from DD this morning regarding the 6.8 "Ambush" rifles
-After talking with their customers at Shot they are definitely going
with a 4 groove ...Spec II...1"11 twist
Cold Hammer Forged Cr lined mid gassed barrel
That is some great news...imo
Other than the rail, stock, and vfg....is there any difference between the DDM4v3 and the DDXVM?
If not, your getting the rail, MOE buttstock, and vfg for a little more than $100
From their website...
DDMXVM
Precision crafted from the highest quality material available today with meticulous attention to detail.
• A1.5 FIXED REAR SIGHT
• ”F” MARKED FRONT SIGHT BASE
• 16” COLD HAMMER FORGED BARREL, 5.56MM, CHROME LINED HEAVY PHOSPHATE, 1:7 TWIST
• REAR RECEIVER QD SWIVEL ATTACHMENT POINT
• MIL SPEC COLLAPSIBLE BUTTSTOCK
• PLASTIC HANDGUARD
• MID-LENGTH GAS SYSTEM
• A4 UPPER RECEIVER
• A2 PISTOL GRIP
• MAGPUL ENHANCED TRIGGER GUARD
• MAGPUL 30rd PMAG
• ENHANCED FLARED MAGAZINE WELL
• A2 FLASH HIDER
• 5 POSITION MIL SPEC RECEIVER EXTENSION
• Made in the USA!
DDM4v3
Precision crafted from the highest quality material available today with meticulous attention to detail.
• A1.5 FIXED REAR SIGHT
• ”F” MARKED FRONT SIGHT BASE
• 16” COLD HAMMER FORGED BARREL, 5.56MM, CHROME LINED HEAVY PHOSPHATE, 1:7 TWIST
• REAR RECEIVER QD SWIVEL ATTACHMENT POINT
• MAGPUL MOE COLLAPSIBLE BUTTSTOCK
• OMEGA X 9.0 RAIL SYSTEM
• DANIEL DEFENSE VERTICAL GRIP MID-LENGTH GAS SYSTEM
• A4 UPPER RECEIVER
• A2 PISTOL GRIP
• MAGPUL ENHANCED TRIGGER GUARD
• MAGPUL 30rd PMAG
• ENHANCED FLARED MAGAZINE WELL
• A2 FLASH HIDER
• 5 POSITION MIL SPEC RECEIVER EXTENSION
• Made in the USA!
Cueball1897
03-28-10, 23:14
Wow, it's a great time to get a tax return.
The DDM4v3 is what I am thinking I'll purchase for myself as soon as I am done putting my wife's AR together.
Cueball1897
03-28-10, 23:36
Other than the rail, stock, and vfg....is there any difference between the DDM4v3 and the DDXVM?
If not, your getting the rail, MOE buttstock, and vfg for a little more than $100
From their website...
Other than the accessories they are the same rifle. It's my understanding that DD originally made the DDM4 as an out of the box general purpose rifle that you wouldn't necessarily need to tinker with.
The DDXV series is a more basic AR that can be customized to one's liking, but they are the same high quality rifle.
The DDM4v3 seems like the way to go if you are looking to get a rifle from Daniel Defense. I've heard nothing but good things about the rifles and the company. Most if not all of the people on this board that I've talked to seem to prefer the Midlength gas system as well. Good times!
Sean Price
04-14-10, 18:05
DDV 6.8 - similar to the DDM4v3, but chambered in 6.8 mm
Ambush 6.8 - a variant of the DDV 6.8 oriented towards hunters
Check them out!
http://www.danieldefense.com/?page=shop/browse&category=rifles
It looks like one has a rail system and a vertical grip(the DDV 6.8) but What are the differences between the DDV 6.8 and the DD Ambush 6.8?
Also can you use an AR-15 in 6.8 to go deer hunting ?? (in Wisconsin)
I'm trying to sign up for hunter safety but until then, my knowledge just comes from trying to read what I can via those WI hunting brochures..
What are the legalities of using an AR-15 for deer hunting? What about functionality? i.e. is it humane enough to take down a deer?
thanks in advance..
oh and I've never been hunting in my life nor have I shot an AR before.. but I'm thinking to myself..
kill two birds with one stone by 1. getting an AR-15(which I've always wanted) and 2. ALSO have a hunting rifle, not ur regular joe shotgun but if legal and good for it.. a hunting rifle..
Thanks in ADVANCE!!
oNe
I have not read this whole thread, but I did call DD about the 6.8s and they said June/July and they were taking orders.
Any ETA on the middys?
If you're referring to the DDM4V3 they are available at AIM for sure, and I'm sure other places have them as well. There is a relatively new thread where a member has pics of his.
ForTehNguyen
04-17-10, 09:27
AIM has a sale on DD M4V3, use "DDV3" code to get it for $1299 down from $1429
Cueball1897
04-17-10, 13:36
AIM has a sale on DD M4V3, use "DDV3" code to get it for $1299 down from $1429
You should check out Clyde Armory, I just picked one up from there.
Add one to your cart, you might be surprised.
theorangecat
04-17-10, 14:02
Crappy photo taken within 10 minutes of bringing it home (and interrupting some deferred shotgun maintenance)...
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn14/Mr_niteowl77/ballistically%20speaking/DD_M4v3.jpg
Probably the best and most useful out-of-the-box AR I have ever owned.
ForTehNguyen
04-17-10, 16:13
You should check out Clyde Armory, I just picked one up from there.
Add one to your cart, you might be surprised.
nice price there
Sean Price
04-19-10, 18:06
Crappy photo taken within 10 minutes of bringing it home (and interrupting some deferred shotgun maintenance)...
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn14/Mr_niteowl77/ballistically%20speaking/DD_M4v3.jpg
Probably the best and most useful out-of-the-box AR I have ever owned.
d*m, that THING is a beauty!!! Got any more "crap" pic's of it....
FUDGE>.... NOW should I wait for BCM lowers to come out(and build my dream COMPLETE BCM rifle) or should I just say the HELL with it.. and GET THIS MARVELOUS MASTERPIECE....
...????
DECISIONS, DECISIONS....
HELP ME!!!
oNe
Cueball1897
04-19-10, 19:31
Crappy photo taken within 10 minutes of bringing it home (and interrupting some deferred shotgun maintenance)...
Probably the best and most useful out-of-the-box AR I have ever owned.
Does the DDM4v3 come with a case or ladders?
I'd really like to see Daniel Defense start offering rifles that have been anodized FDE like their RIS II rails. And I don't care if the color of the upper, lower and rail match.
nice price there
you ain't kidding either.
theorangecat
04-20-10, 05:52
Does the DDM4v3 come with a case or ladders?
Ladders on L, R and bottom rails, case, VFG and one PMAG.
Shooter101
04-20-10, 09:42
I have a DDM4v3. It is awsome. I love it and im looking to get another when or if they come out with a 308 cal.
I love mine as well!
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6485/dscf0027ht.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/5542/dscf0033e.jpg
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/9193/dscf0034uv.jpg
Cueball1897
05-01-10, 19:43
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q70/cue_ball1897/e20b5561.jpg
I hope to take some pretty pictures too, but I'll start with this.
FYI: My first AR :)
nice to see how midlengths are becoming more and more popular
I might be mistaken but itsnt the middy system popular in the 6.8 crowd because it cycles better, or reduces different issues with powder burn rates? Or something to that effect I think.
I might be mistaken but itsnt the middy system popular in the 6.8 crowd because it cycles better, or reduces different issues with powder burn rates? Or something to that effect I think.
That is essentially correct. I think that the middy benefits have more to with barrel length than caliber though. Middy on a 16' barrel is the correct pairing as per the original AR desgin, IIRC.
ForTehNguyen
05-02-10, 09:22
I might be mistaken but itsnt the middy system popular in the 6.8 crowd because it cycles better, or reduces different issues with powder burn rates? Or something to that effect I think.
been becoming more popular even with 5.56 crowd, its just better than the carbine system in practically everyway
I really like the V3 version with the midlength gas tube but I wish they would do a full flat top AR with a removable front sight instead of an A frame sight. It really bothers me when I have a magnified optic.
I'm about to buy my first AR and I'm seriously considering the DDM4V3 as it seems to have everything I am looking for.
Does anyone here knows how much it weights? I'm guessing just above 7lbs but it would be nice to confirm it.
Also, how accurate can one expect it to be out of the box? Would it shoot 1 MOA or below with heavier quality ammunition?
When they start offering complete carbines with their 16" LW middy barrels is when I'll make my move.
Shooter101
06-04-10, 20:02
This is My DD Carbine. I love it. This is the 3rd one I currently have and am also right now building a AR10 platform Rifle similar to the SR25.
are these rifles heavy under the handgaurds?
I have the standard DDm4 and am curious as to the difference in profile between it and the middy barrel. Can someone please compare the two?
Being a fan of Daniel Defense, I thought I should point out that DD has released four new rifles:
DDV 6.8 - similar to the DDM4v3, but chambered in 6.8 mm
Ambush 6.8 - a variant of the DDV 6.8 oriented towards hunters
I talked to them on the phone about 10 days ago or so and the 6.8 barrels had not been made yet. It sounded like they would likely be done sometime this summer.
I talked to them on the phone about 10 days ago or so and the 6.8 barrels had not been made yet. It sounded like they would likely be done sometime this summer.
Hopefully they have the mandrels in hand and are only waiting for forge
time to start hammering out the 6.8's
AllAmerican
06-05-10, 19:02
DD is a company that gets it. Kudos to DD.
I saw this thread and had to chime in. I bought a DDM4 from Clyde Armory, because of the low price. Anyway, when it arrived I saw it was a very early model and was not what I expected. Bbl, and the extra rail out in front of the FS. I called Clyde Armory and they got in touch with Daniel Defense. There was talk of maybe they would do this and that for me, and charge a nominal price. This from Clyde Armory. Long story short, Larry Stanley from DD contacted me and said ship the upper to him, and I told him exactly what I wanted. In about a week I got my rifle back and it was perfect for my needs, all I paid was shipping! I offered to pay for the labour at least and he said his boss would not stand for that. Read there customer satisfaction statement. They mean what they say and that means a lot to me. My next rifle in about 2 months will be another Daniel Defense firearm!
2 thumbs up for Daniel Defense!!
Hopefully they have the mandrels in hand and are only waiting for forge
time to start hammering out the 6.8's
The guy said the mandrels are there and ready, but they need to hammer some test barrels, confirm quality, then do a production run.
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